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Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366073/30804/30]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:49, 26th September 2025
 



Anything north of Bristol is definitely 'up North' for this Deb'nshire yokel 

Ahh.  We Somerset yokels mus 'ave broader orizons, you

Re: Samaritans to close more than 100 branches
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [366072/30487/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:46, 26th September 2025
 
From the BBC:

Samaritans facing volunteer exodus over proposed branch closures

Hundreds of Samaritans volunteers say they will leave the suicide prevention charity if plans to close more than 100 branches are supported at a meeting this weekend.

Some opponents of the changes fear an exodus of staff could put the charity's ability to answer calls in doubt.

The controversial plans, unveiled in July, would see at least half the Samaritans branches in the UK and Ireland close. Volunteers would instead work out of larger offices or answer calls from home as the charity moves to embrace a remote working model.

In a statement, the Samaritans said its proposals would mean "we can answer more calls, cut wait times and make it easier for people to volunteer with us". If passed, the first branches would begin to close in April in the UK and 2027 in Ireland, with a gradual reduction over the coming decade.

Critics of the plans say the changes will decimate the Samaritans' work in local communities and have accused the charity's leadership of repeatedly ignoring requests to provide the rationale for the plans.

Some branches have called for a vote of no confidence in the chairman at a meeting next month. More than 50 branches, over a quarter of the total, immediately raised concerns when the plans were unveiled and it seems that opposition has only grown.

The list of branches that would close has not been released, but James Watkins fears his one in Rhyl, Denbighshire, would go. It's situated in the heart of the town, in one of the most deprived neighbourhoods in Britain, with high levels of mental health problems.

Mr Watkins, 58, says that volunteers are drawn to helping their own community as much as staffing the charity's nationwide phone line. The branch's volunteers, he said, had recently been out at a local college and at the train station raising awareness of their presence.

"All of those things emanate from the fact we have a local branch and would likely go if we closed. Our branch has been going for over 50 years and our connections with our community has grown and grown," said Mr Watkins. He's one of between 40 and 50 volunteers in Rhyl, but after speaking to colleagues said he was not aware that any of them would remain if the branch closed.

Last month, Mr Watkins organised a survey of volunteers across Wales. He says he received a response from 210 people, about one third of all Welsh volunteers. Three quarters of people who responded said they would not move if their own branch was closed. The same proportion said they would not be interested in remote volunteering.

"With less people, [the Samaritans] are not going to be able to answer as many calls. This is the point we keep making and it seems to be falling on deaf ears. This could be the beginning of the end for the Samaritans."

(BBC article continues)


Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366071/30804/30]
Posted by PhilWakely at 10:38, 26th September 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 

(For what it's worth, Cornwall/Devon/Dorset/Somerset is South West, everything else is up North!)



Gloucestershire, South Worcestershire, Wiltshire, West Hampshire, South Herefordshire all count as definitely Not "Up North", in my book.  And neither are they in the East or South East.

By elimination, they must be in the South West

Anything north of Bristol is definitely 'up North' for this Deb'nshire yokel 

Re: Principle railways of England and Wales, 1898
In "Railway History and related topics" [366069/30806/55]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 10:17, 26th September 2025
 
And the West Coast Mainline, north of Crewe is shown as a mere branch to Carlisle whereas that late Midland upstart has mainline status all the way!

Re: Principle railways of England and Wales, 1898
In "Railway History and related topics" [366068/30806/55]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:13, 26th September 2025
 
The Great Western during the days of the Great Way Round

Predating the Castle Cary - Cogload main line that completed a big cut-off for West Country trains; the Stratford - Cheltenham line that gave the GWR a route to the South from Birmingham that avoided using much of The Midland route; and the West Ealing to Aynho Jcn GW line to Birmingham

It's good that two of these 20th Century additions are still with us and thriving.  And a shame that the possibilities for the one that got shut were not realised

Off the Western, there's no sign of what would become much of the Great Central on the map

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366067/30804/30]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:05, 26th September 2025
 

(For what it's worth, Cornwall/Devon/Dorset/Somerset is South West, everything else is up North!)



Gloucestershire, South Worcestershire, Wiltshire, West Hampshire, South Herefordshire all count as definitely Not "Up North", in my book.  And neither are they in the East or South East.

By elimination, they must be in the South West

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366065/30804/30]
Posted by brooklea at 09:59, 26th September 2025
 
5. Is in the north eastern (B&NES) part of the south west - Keynsham.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [366064/29711/14]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 09:57, 26th September 2025
 
It was also short-formed (5 carriages vs 9) so got very cosy at Oxford!

Re: 175s to GWR
In "Across the West" [366063/28982/26]
Posted by grahame at 09:56, 26th September 2025
 

But experience tells me that 5car workings, formed of a 2car and a 3car can be prone to ending up as 4car or even 3car (or occasionally 6car) fairly often in Bristol area.    Operationally having 2 types combined to form a train seems to be too hard to do on a regular basis, unless you have both sizes available in a siding at start point.


The lack of standardisation of coupling is, I think, something of a nightmare - where "multiple" units cannot be used in multiple unless it's multiple of a similar type.   GWR has ... 15x, 16x, 175, Castle, 57 and IET and "never they shall mix" except the occasional emergency coupling such as castle dragging a broken sleeper.    For sure, 4s and 6s are going to turn up on trains that are nominally 5 carriages, just as 2 and 3 car trains seem to switch at times (as do 5 and 9 car).

Re: 175s to GWR
In "Across the West" [366062/28982/26]
Posted by John D at 09:22, 26th September 2025
 

Lack of inter-unit gangway could be a problem if working in multiple, especially on a route with short platforms or request stops; are they to be paired on peak Barnstaples? Probably wouldn't be able major issue on main line duties. I imagine the same issue arises when a 5-car Turbo formation serves Dilton Marsh, but at least that's a one-off stop.

The Modern Railways article on GWR based on Mark Hopwood comments says will be 5car 175s on some busy Barnstaple trains.

But experience tells me that 5car workings, formed of a 2car and a 3car can be prone to ending up as 4car or even 3car (or occasionally 6car) fairly often in Bristol area.    Operationally having 2 types combined to form a train seems to be too hard to do on a regular basis, unless you have both sizes available in a siding at start point.

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366061/30804/30]
Posted by bradshaw at 08:39, 26th September 2025
 
8 Marsh Barton in the South West

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366060/30804/30]
Posted by ChrisB at 08:36, 26th September 2025
 
Is 8 Reading Green Park?

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366059/30804/30]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:30, 26th September 2025
Already liked by PhilWakely, grahame, Chris from Nailsea
 
Never ceases to amaze me how you chaps can identify these locations so readily from a photo - I missed the picture of Taplow and I live here! 

(For what it's worth, Cornwall/Devon/Dorset/Somerset is South West, everything else is up North!)


Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366058/30804/30]
Posted by PhilWakely at 08:14, 26th September 2025
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9: Corfe Castle - definitely SW for Oxonhutch


I remember back in 1973 being there and just staring at blank ballast - such a sad sight, and so delightful to see it now.

I travelled the line in its BR dying days - probably the last summer of any through services from London with a class 33 on a TC set or two.   And the a thumper up and down the branch; lovely hot summer in the fields on the hill high above Corfe Castle learning about and seeing the flaura and smaller fauna, with the train buzzing past from time to time like the chimes of a clock telling us the time of day and passing hour.

Yes, such a delight to see it back / as it is now.   The delight tempted for me,  sadly, by the lack of an ability to connect by public rail transport routinely into Corfe Castle and Swanage.

Apologies as this is going off-topic!  This is how I remember Corfe Castle from my early teens....


Principle railways of England and Wales, 1898
In "Railway History and related topics" [366057/30806/55]
Posted by grahame at 08:03, 26th September 2025
 
from https://www.facebook.com/brilliantmaps/ - Chief Railways of England & Wales In 1898

How things have changed ... what "shouts: at you as a loss or a gain since 127 years ago?



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Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366056/30804/30]
Posted by grahame at 07:41, 26th September 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
9: Corfe Castle - definitely SW for Oxonhutch


I remember back in 1973 being there and just staring at blank ballast - such a sad sight, and so delightful to see it now.

I travelled the line in its BR dying days - probably the last summer of any through services from London with a class 33 on a TC set or two.   And the a thumper up and down the branch; lovely hot summer in the fields on the hill high above Corfe Castle learning about and seeing the flaura and smaller fauna, with the train buzzing past from time to time like the chimes of a clock telling us the time of day and passing hour.

Yes, such a delight to see it back / as it is now.   The delight tempted for me,  sadly, by the lack of an ability to connect by public rail transport routinely into Corfe Castle and Swanage.

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366055/30804/30]
Posted by grahame at 07:32, 26th September 2025
 
1 Portsmouth and Southsea - TonyN - No
2 Worcestershire Parkway - Western Pathfiner
3 Newport - BobM - No
4 Stroud - AndyE
6 Maiden Newton - bradshaw - Yes
7 Axminster - PhilWakely - Yes
9 Corfe Castle - Oxonhutch - Yes
10 Salisbury - Clan Line - Yes
11 Taplow - Chris from Nailsea - No
12 Gunnislake - ChrisB - Yes

The "is it South West?" conundrum well illustrtated - Salisbury pointed out as being in the South West by virtue ot it being an LSWR station, and yet Portsmouth and Southsea was also LSWR, then SWT and SWR and is shown with a GWR train. And I note a very wise restraint not to even suggest whether Stroud is or isn't in the South West.

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Oldest purpose built railway pub identified
In "Railway History and related topics" [366054/30805/55]
Posted by johnneyw at 23:06, 25th September 2025
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The world's oldest purpose built railway pub has been identified and listed.  The Cleveland Bay in Stockton appears to have stolen the crown from the previous holder by a couple of years but the publican of 32 years had no idea about his pub's railway heritage until relatively recently.  More from the Grauniad article link below.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/sep/24/worlds-first-purpose-built-railway-pub-gets-listed-status

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366053/30804/30]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 21:59, 25th September 2025
 
9: Corfe Castle - definitely SW for Oxonhutch


I remember back in 1973 being there and just staring at blank ballast - such a sad sight, and so delightful to see it now.

Re: Day out - anyone care to join me from Melksham to Oxford? Sat 27 Sep 2025
In "TransWilts line" [366052/30796/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:37, 25th September 2025
 

I will be changing at Chippenham - half an hour or so there to get a coffee at the "ungry are" before joining the Oxford direct.


I rather think that's where I'll be meeting you. 


Re: Day out - anyone care to join me from Melksham to Oxford? Sat 27 Sep 2025
In "TransWilts line" [366051/30796/18]
Posted by grahame at 21:23, 25th September 2025
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Are there any other of our Coffee Shop members or readers who may be able to join us?

A very warm welcome awaits anyone who can - for all or even part of the trip. 


There are .. a lot of .. of likes and people tagging each other on the Facebook post; I've said I'll be at the station in good time to help show people how to kick and prod the TVM ... don't be surprised to see more people with me.  I will be changing at Chippenham - half an hour or so there to get a coffee at the "ungry are" before joining the Oxford direct.

Re: Day out - anyone care to join me from Melksham to Oxford? Sat 27 Sep 2025
In "TransWilts line" [366050/30796/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:53, 25th September 2025
 
Are there any other of our Coffee Shop members or readers who may be able to join us?

A very warm welcome awaits anyone who can - for all or even part of the trip. 


Re: Day out - anyone care to join me from Melksham to Oxford? Sat 27 Sep 2025
In "TransWilts line" [366049/30796/18]
Posted by bobm at 20:04, 25th September 2025
Already liked by grahame
 
My central heating boiler passed its "MOT" today - although I think the case is the only original part.

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366048/30804/30]
Posted by bobm at 20:02, 25th September 2025
 
3 Newport (Gwent) - not even England.

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366047/30804/30]
Posted by bradshaw at 19:45, 25th September 2025
 
6 Maiden Newton, south west

Re: Day out - anyone care to join me from Melksham to Oxford? Sat 27 Sep 2025
In "TransWilts line" [366046/30796/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:31, 25th September 2025
 
Well, our car didn't exactly 'sail through' the MOT test, but it did pass, thanks to the timely use of an absolutely pristine spare wheel.  Apparently, we do need a new tyre, which is being sorted out tomorrow by our excellent local garage.

So, I shall be out and about on the trains on Saturday morning: tickets being bought online, to be collected from our local TVM tomorrow afternoon.


Re: Driver and teacher hurt in A36 school coach crash - 25 September 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [366045/30802/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:15, 25th September 2025
 
The updated news article, from the BBC:

Driver arrested after school bus crash closes road

The driver of a school bus has been arrested after the vehicle left the road and crashed into a ditch.

Police said of those onboard, 29 secondary school students were uninjured and one of four teachers suffered a minor leg injury. The driver also sustained minor injuries.

The crash happened on the southbound carriageway of the A36 near the Ower roundabout and junction 2 of the M27 in Hampshire shortly after 05:10 BST.

Hampshire and Isle of Wight Constabulary said the driver, from Hungerford in Berkshire, had since been arrested on suspicion of dangerous driving and driving whilst unfit through drink and/or drugs.

It added the 48-year-old remained in custody and urged any witnesses or people with dashcam footage of the incident to contact the force.

Following a lengthy closure, the road has now reopened after what police described as a "complex recovery" of the coach from the ditch.


Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366044/30804/30]
Posted by Clan Line at 19:11, 25th September 2025
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10. Salisbury. Yes. (LSWR)

 
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