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23.4.2025 (Wednesday) 16:58 - All running AOK
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Re: St Erth station - facilities, footbridge, improvements, incidents and awards (merged posts)
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [360842/3828/25]
Posted by RailCornwall at 15:43, 23rd April 2025
 
Work has recommenced on the lifts, was pax through the station today, lift on down platform open with two orange jackets working therein. In lift lighting on. Same platform on the return lights and workers still active. Good to see action. The South Carpark was pretty busy albeit Wednesday of Easter Week.


Re: FOSS and FOSW validity - some quirks
In "Fare's Fair" [360841/30127/4]
Posted by RichardB at 14:56, 23rd April 2025
 
Of course the GWR network map will not show Lymington or Chandlers Ford.

Co-incidentally I downloaded the map from the GB Rail Rover Guide website yesterday which shows all the routes one would expect including these two. The National Rail site also lists all the relevant stations including these two. Salisbury/Yeovil/Axminster also included

This is the map from the Rangers and Rovers page on GWR's website https://www.gwr.com/your-tickets/choosing-your-ticket/rangers-and-rovers


Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [360840/29711/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 14:39, 23rd April 2025
 
13:16 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 15:22 is being delayed at Evesham.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.
Last Updated:23/04/2025 13:46

20 mins late off Evesham

Re: Contact points / methods for GWR as at 23.4.2025
In "Who's who on Western railways" [360839/30183/2]
Posted by bobm at 14:29, 23rd April 2025
 
Noting the card is dated 2023 so who knows which is correct? 

Re: Best-loved railway art unveiled after global vote - April 2025
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [360838/30177/49]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:20, 23rd April 2025
 
https://railway200.artuk.org/

The deadline for voting is midnight on Sunday 1st June 2025. The winning artwork will be announced on 9th June.

You can view the 20 entries without registering, but in order to vote, you will need to register.

Re: FOSS and FOSW validity - some quirks
In "Fare's Fair" [360837/30127/4]
Posted by WSW Frome at 14:09, 23rd April 2025
 
Of course the GWR network map will not show Lymington or Chandlers Ford.

Co-incidentally I downloaded the map from the GB Rail Rover Guide website yesterday which shows all the routes one would expect including these two. The National Rail site also lists all the relevant stations including these two. Salisbury/Yeovil/Axminster also included

Re: [otd] 22nd April 2025
In "Railway History and related topics" [360836/30180/55]
Posted by JayMac at 13:53, 23rd April 2025
 
Also on 22nd April 1775, Hatcher & Sons Ltd in Taunton opened. Originally a drapery, now a department store. One of the oldest continuously trading department stores in the UK. Hatchers are currently celebrating 250 years in business. They remain an independent family owned business.

Several generations of my family, myself included, have worked in Hatchers, right back to my great grandfather and great granduncle who worked there after the first world war.

Hatchers was my first proper job. I worked Saturdays initially, starting in December 1988 when I was 15. Earning the grand sum of £1.21 an hour! I started in the video hire department. I also worked in electrical/technology, warehouse, deliveries, restaurant and furniture. All before I was 18 when I started my catering and hospitality qualifications and training.

Re: Best-loved railway art unveiled after global vote - April 2025
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [360835/30177/49]
Posted by rogerw at 13:36, 23rd April 2025
 
I can't see how you register to vote

Re: Heritage v national network - some personal thoughts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [360834/30179/47]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 12:31, 23rd April 2025
 
Graham, If you visit me in my 'box when I am on duty, you will get the most hearty welcome, and I hope to be able to answer all of your questions keenly and enthusiastically. I have been visited by all sorts and often the most interesting and piercing questions come from the most unexpected (and unqualified) sources.

Re: FOSS and FOSW validity - some quirks
In "Fare's Fair" [360833/30127/4]
Posted by old original at 12:28, 23rd April 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Many moons ago I used to do the proof reading for publicity leaflets like the rovers and this quirk raised it's head then. If I remember the answer I got then was that, although the rover is valid on the various operators in the area, as the FOSW was a GWR sponsored item it would only be valid on lines where GWR actually ran a service, although their argument fell down when it came to the SWR line from Axminster to Salisbury!!

It did seem a bit petty to me at the time but, brick walls and head banging.....

As an aside, if you down load the current map from the GWR website you'll see that both the Chandlers Ford line and Lymington Pier branch are not there..

https://www.gwr.com/stations-and-destinations/stations


Re: Melksham's rail service - where are we, on the anniversary of being Beechinged?
In "TransWilts line" [360832/30162/18]
Posted by matth1j at 12:04, 23rd April 2025
Already liked by grahame
 
2. Services don't go where we want from Melksham

I reckon that's the main one - having to change to get to Bath/Bristol is a PITA. If you want to get to Bath, the direct bus is a much easier option.

I used to work in Swindon, and lived in Chippenham for a bit a couple of years ago after work had moved to Bristol, and only having to take one train made the commute so much easier. Having said that, giving up the unreliable 07:21 Chippenham route to Bristol in favour of the 06:32 Trowbridge option has made the morning leg significantly less stressful, as I mentioned to Graham on said service this morning.

Contact points / methods for GWR as at 23.4.2025
In "Who's who on Western railways" [360831/30183/2]
Posted by grahame at 11:37, 23rd April 2025
 
From a card picked up at a station where I changed trains this morning



I asked the young ladies in GWR uniform manning a both there if there's an email address these days and one of them told me that GWR isn't contactable by email any more.   Must have changed in the last 24 hours  - I emailed gwr.feedback @ gwr.com first thing yesterday and got an automated response and reference number which suggests the service IS still live.

Re: Heritage v national network - some personal thoughts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [360830/30179/47]
Posted by UstiImmigrunt at 11:05, 23rd April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
I still have my BR lever cloth.

Re: FOSS and FOSW validity - some quirks
In "Fare's Fair" [360829/30127/4]
Posted by grahame at 10:51, 23rd April 2025
 
Just looking at the map, Graham, and it does seem very strange the the FOSW is apparently not valid Romsey - Eastleigh via Chandlers Ford or on the Lymington branch.  Both look very deliberate exclusions from the map.

In practical terms, I can't imagine there would be any problem actually travelling on either line with a FOSW rover.  I have done this but a long time ago now.


Indeed ... as it happens I'm not headed onto either in my final 2 days (I almost made it through Chandler's Ford) ... from a very wet Melksham I'm now in a sun-kissed train approaching Plymouth.

Re: FOSS and FOSW validity - some quirks
In "Fare's Fair" [360828/30127/4]
Posted by RichardB at 10:28, 23rd April 2025
 
Just looking at the map, Graham, and it does seem very strange the the FOSW is apparently not valid Romsey - Eastleigh via Chandlers Ford or on the Lymington branch.  Both look very deliberate exclusions from the map.

In practical terms, I can't imagine there would be any problem actually travelling on either line with a FOSW rover.  I have done this but a long time ago now.


Re: GWR services to Cardiff - slashed for the day / urgent bridge repairs
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [360827/30170/23]
Posted by Mark A at 10:24, 23rd April 2025
 
The National Rail page on this now has a bit more detail, identifying the location too (and also has the expected completion as next Sunday).

Mark

A routine inspection of the intersection bridge between Cardiff Central and Cardiff Queen Street at the weekend revealed some structural problems. Extensive repair works have enabled mainline services between Newport and Cardiff to largely reopen.

Work on the bridge will continue this week with service amendments expected until Sunday. Additional train services will be added as phases of the work complete this week.

Re: Where was I today 22.4.25?
In "The Lighter Side" [360826/30181/30]
Posted by ray951 at 09:13, 23rd April 2025
 
Woolston station

Well that was predictably quick.  Woolston-Hamble-Bursledon....along Southampton Water.   It didn't disappoint and with several stations along the way you can trim your walk according to time/energy level.  Some decent watering holes too.... particularly impressed by The Jolly Sailor, a few minutes from Bursledon Station and tucked away right by the estuary.

Of course those of a certain vintage will remember the role 'The Jolly Sailor' played in the 80's TV Show 'Howards Way' as well as other locations in the Southampton-Hamble-Bursledon area.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [360825/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 07:34, 23rd April 2025
 
Final score from yesterday:

1P04 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington (16:24) : held Hayes & Harlington (+30), arrived +55. Stock forms 1W33.
1P34 15:18 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington (17:29) : held Reading (+55), arrived +54.
1P05 15:18 Hereford to Paddington (18:29) : held Oxford (+40), arrived Reading +41 and cancelled thereafter. Stock ran empty to Paddington.

1P44 19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington (22:24) : started from Shrub Hill.
1P46 20:56 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington (23:34) : cancelled throughout.

2E14 17:04 Didcot Parkway to Evesham (18:23) : held Oxford (+26), arrived +28.
1W33 16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern (19:25) : departed +34 (stock from 1P04) , arrived Shrub Hill +34 and cancelled thereafter.
1W03 17:34 London Paddington to Hereford (20:25) : started from Reading (stock ran empty from Paddington) +41, arrived +30.
1W34 17:57 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street (20:11) : cancelled throughout.

Re: New board - for history and models
In "Railway History and related topics" [360824/24494/55]
Posted by BerkshireBugsy at 07:31, 23rd April 2025
 
I'm off to Google "AWS ramps" - and make a new best friend with a 3D printer

Re: New board - for history and models
In "Railway History and related topics" [360823/24494/55]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 07:15, 23rd April 2025
 
You might just be in need of some AWS Ramps Dave.

Re: New board - for history and models
In "Railway History and related topics" [360822/24494/55]
Posted by grahame at 07:13, 23rd April 2025
 
My answer to the question I have quoted in bold is "I think so" for purely selfish reasons!

In my days of travelling daily on GWR I used to frequent the coffee shop probably daily. Then I moved to the Milton Keynes area where I jumped ship (or should that be TOC?) to Virgin as it was then and now  I am in a job that doesn't need me to travel at all and gives me more leasure time.

So after a break away from model railways I'm back and I'll be honest I came back to here because I knew you guys would know the answer to this question!

"What are the bits of hardware that sit between the rails and look like blocks of metal with champhers at each end" called? If I was going anywhere where I could get you a photo I would

I'm trying to find some of these in OO gauge so I can hide some reed switches.

Many thanks in advance!

Dave


Welcome back, Dave ... enjoy your extra leisure time.   Railway Modelling at 1:76 has a parallel with stuff at 1:1 and a strong crossover in following - we study each other.    I was on the Severn Valley Railway on Monday and nothing the products on sale in so many stalls and kiosks run by various preservation gtoups - and model railway equipment and transport books were dominant.

Between the tracks?   All sorts of things ... ATC and AWS ramps, perhaps?   You could also put in pedestrian crossing - much more acceptable to add on a model than in full scale these days!

Re: New board - for history and models
In "Railway History and related topics" [360821/24494/55]
Posted by BerkshireBugsy at 06:37, 23rd April 2025
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 
Should the Coffee Shop cover model railways?

Well - it seems natural to allow / have some coverage of what's a subject of interest to a good proportion of our members, and a linked subject in many ways, but not to flood the main boards.    So this "Sideshoots" board is now a general place for things which are "pure interest" if you like to put it that way - things you probably can't see because they're gone or in people's private homes, but never the less of interest to members from time to time.

My answer to the question I have quoted in bold is "I think so" for purely selfish reasons!

In my days of travelling daily on GWR I used to frequent the coffee shop probably daily. Then I moved to the Milton Keynes area where I jumped ship (or should that be TOC?) to Virgin as it was then and now  I am in a job that doesn't need me to travel at all and gives me more leasure time.

So after a break away from model railways I'm back and I'll be honest I came back to here because I knew you guys would know the answer to this question!

"What are the bits of hardware that sit between the rails and look like blocks of metal with champhers at each end" called? If I was going anywhere where I could get you a photo I would

I'm trying to find some of these in OO gauge so I can hide some reed switches.

Many thanks in advance!

Dave


Re: Eyesight rules for motorists unsafe, says coroner
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360820/30168/51]
Posted by infoman at 05:41, 23rd April 2025
 
We have approx 10 million senior citizens in the U.K.
Don't think it would be a good idea to give all those ten million a free senior rail card,
maybe you would have to apply for them,but not means tested.
If one million applied for a rail card the cost would be 30 million pounds.
If those one million made just one trip costing 30 pounds per year,
the rail industry would get its money back.
   

Re: GWR services to Cardiff - slashed for the day / urgent bridge repairs
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [360819/30170/23]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:08, 23rd April 2025
 
Another update, from the BBC:

Rail disruption now set to last more than a week



Disruption on some rail services in south Wales will now last over a week and continue until Monday morning as repair work on a railway bridge continues.

Many journeys were suspended or cancelled due to work on the bridge outside Cardiff Central station between Sunday and Tuesday.

Transport for Wales (TfW) and Network Rail, which owns and operates most of the rail infrastructure in the UK, said mainline services in and out of Cardiff had largely returned to normal by Tuesday evening.

But work on the bridge will continue this week and bus replacements or diverted lines would remain in place until 28 April for services from Cardiff to Ebbw Vale in Blaenau Gwent.

The bridge connects Cardiff Central to Queen Street, running over the lines linking Cardiff Central to Newport and beyond.

An inspection at the weekend revealed some structural problems and services were immediately suspended due to safety concerns.

Trains will only run between Ebbw Vale and Newport for the remainder of this week, with either bus replacements or diverted train journeys between Newport and Cardiff, the statement said.

Bus replacements are also in place for the Caerphilly and Coryton lines, TfW and Network Rail said.

Additional train services will be added as phases of the work are completed this week, the companies added.

It follows three days of disruption caused by the work to the bridge, which affected a number of routes run by Great Western Railway, TfW and CrossCountry.

Plaid Cymru Member of the Senedd Delyth Jewell said the ongoing issues with rail infrastructure were "a symptom of Wales' history of being short-changed when it comes to rail funding".

Conservative transport spokesman Peter Fox said commuters had "every right to feel frustrated, especially after a 6% rise in ticket prices this year".

Wales' Transport Minister Ken Skates said TfW was "working closely with Network Rail and Amey Infrastructure Wales to resolve this urgent mater as soon as is safely possible".



Re: Where was I today 22.4.25?
In "The Lighter Side" [360818/30181/30]
Posted by johnneyw at 22:54, 22nd April 2025
 
Woolston station

Well that was predictably quick.  Woolston-Hamble-Bursledon....along Southampton Water.   It didn't disappoint and with several stations along the way you can trim your walk according to time/energy level.  Some decent watering holes too.... particularly impressed by The Jolly Sailor, a few minutes from Bursledon Station and tucked away right by the estuary.

Bus gate fines make council £2.5m in 15 months - Cumberland Road, Bristol
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [360817/30182/21]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:05, 22nd April 2025
 
From the BBC:



Drivers have paid more than £2.5m in fines over a 15-month period for travelling through a controversial bus gate.

About 60,128 fines were handed to motorists for driving through the Cumberland Road bus gate in Bristol between 1 January 2024 and 3 April 2025. This equates to an average of 131 fines per day.

Signage states only buses, taxis and bicycles are allowed to pass through it.

Bristol City Council said bus gates are installed across the city to help cut air pollution "and increase the number of bus travel options for residents".

According to a Freedom of Information (FOI) request by the BBC, the Cumberland Road bus gate fines generated about £2.529m. That is more than four times higher than the city's second-highest grossing bus gate, which is High Street, at the junction of Baldwin Street. This gate made more than £477,000 in fines.

The FOI also revealed there were 128 attempts at appealing the fines during the same period, however it is not clear how many of them were successfully overturned.

In February, a Traffic Penalty Tribunal adjudicator raised concerns about the signage approaching the bus gate while determining an appeal. The council has repeatedly defended the signage, arguing it is compliant with the latest guidance and legislation.

Councillor Ed Plowden, transport committee chair on Bristol City Council, said: "It is the responsibility of all drivers to plan their journey appropriately and avoid bus gates. Drivers can find details of bus gates in Bristol on the council's website. We continue to offer leniency, at our discretion, for those drivers who receive multiple fines in the time between their first incorrect use of the bus gate and getting notice of the fine in the post."

The total revenue made from fines across all of the city's bus gates was £4.7m.



Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [360816/29650/26]
Posted by a-driver at 20:07, 22nd April 2025
 
Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Following damage to the overhead electric wires at London Paddington all lines are now open.

Disruption is expected until 19:00 22/04.
Train services between London Paddington and Reading may be cancelled, delayed by up to 45 minutes or revised

Not strictly damage to the overheads. 

The pantograph on a train heading into Paddington automatically dropped. This could be due to a defect with the overheads but it could also be a train fault or just a spurious fault.  NR will examine the overheads on the line or lines where the fault occurred as a precaution, especially if the driver can not see any obvious damage to the pantograph on the train. 

Re: Where was I today 22.4.25?
In "The Lighter Side" [360815/30181/30]
Posted by bradshaw at 19:55, 22nd April 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Woolston station

Re: Where was I today 22.4.25?
In "The Lighter Side" [360814/30181/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:36, 22nd April 2025
 
I know - but I'll leave it for a while, to let others have a go.

CfN. 

Where was I today 22.4.25?
In "The Lighter Side" [360813/30181/30]
Posted by johnneyw at 19:33, 22nd April 2025
 
Nice day for a 'station to station' day out... nice station building too...but where is it?

 
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