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Re: OTD - 24th January (2007&8) - Unrest at First's franchise performance
In "Railway History and related topics" [371470/25928/55]
Posted by eightonedee at 11:42, 24th January 2026
 
Hypothetical, but those figures would have been even higher had it not been for the reset enforced by covid.

...or indeed the reputation for unreliability that some of their services now have (see our own boards for Swindon-Westbury and the North Cotswolds line) and also in our part of the world, the loss of direct trains to Oxford from all stations between Tilehurst and Cholsey.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
In "London to the West" [371468/22771/12]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:41, 24th January 2026
 
From the BBC:

Storm Ingrid: Part of historic Teignmouth pier washes away in 'wild' storm

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Part of Teignmouth Grand Pier has washed away in the storm

Part of a historic pier has washed away as Storm Ingrid brings heavy rain and strong winds to Devon and Cornwall.

Teignmouth mayor Cate Williams said the town had "taken a real battering" overnight into Saturday with "just wild" waves damaging part of the Teignmouth Grand Pier.

A Met Office yellow warning for rain is in place until 22:00 GMT and the Environment Agency said flood warnings were in place across the south Devon and south Cornwall coasts.

Great Western Railway said the line between Exeter St Davids and Plymouth would remain shut until at least 14:00 because a "significant amount of debris" was on the track at Dawlish due to waves breaching the sea wall.

Teignmouth's mayor said it was "sad" to see part of the resort's pier, which opened in 1867, washed away. "It has lost part of the pier structure itself, that has dissolved and gone away into the sea," she said. "It's an old pier and it was needing some attention and I suppose age and wear and tear has taken its toll. It has survived many weather conditions as well as world wars. It's sad when you look at it now to see some of it now missing."

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A tree fell down in Heavitree Park in Exeter during high winds

Trees have also come down across the region, with one blocking both lanes of the A377 near Lapford, Devon County Council said.

Cornwall Council warned trees might still be weak or unstable following Storm Goretti.

Meanwhile, Network Rail issued a black alert, its highest warning, as 12ft (4m) waves hit the sea wall at Dawlish. It is only the second time a black alert has been issued since a storm destroyed sections of the track around Dawlish in February 2014.

Rail services have also been cancelled between Par and Newquay and Liskeard and Looe due to flooding.

GWR said the sea wall at Dawlish would be inspected once the storm had passed. The firm advised passengers to avoid rail travel until later with tickets remaining valid on Sunday.

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Waves overtopped the sea wall at Penzance on Friday

GWR spokesman James Davis said: "There's been a significant amount of debris that the sea has thrown onto the track that will need to be cleared before we can run trains safely. The line remains closed and we have a limited bus replacement service operating. Clearly, if the same number of people choose to travel as normal you're going to find yourself waiting quite some time."


Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
In "London to the West" [371467/22771/12]
Posted by JayMac at 10:35, 24th January 2026
 
Many less informed people on social media complain that it's modern trains' inability to cope with a spray of seawater being the reason trains are on stop. That is a concern, but the main reason is passenger (and staff) safety.

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Oh, and spare a thought for this Network Rail worker:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HASxXofpJ/

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
In "London to the West" [371465/22771/12]
Posted by a-driver at 10:33, 24th January 2026
 
Reading elsewhere suggestions that it's the line-side wall separating the railway from the coast path rather than the sea wall itself but yes, I would imagine it will slow the reopening somewhat?

The picture shows which part of the wall has been damaged.  I only define it as part of the seawall purely because without it the track bed would continually be washed away or flooded.   

Re: Hampshire County Council plans charges for roadwork lane closures
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371464/31487/51]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 10:29, 24th January 2026
 
Oxfordshire is implementing one of these too:

https://oxfordclarion.uk/the-clarion-11-november-2025/

Lane Rental Schemes in other areas have exempted Network Rail from charges, which is perhaps just as well, as the Botley Road railway bridge closure would have been charged at £3m for 1,239 days.

Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371463/31503/31]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:26, 24th January 2026
 
As one of the smallest (if not the smallest) forces in the UK I suspect that Wiltshire will be one of those forced to merge.  

I am assuming since the fire service was merged with Dorset, that that will be the likely outcome.  Given the proximity of Salisbury to the Dorset border I suppose this makes sense.

However, our health services cooperate to the west where there is also a large centre of population on the border so that would also make sense.

Remembering the proposals for a Wiltshire, Somerset and Dorset combined authority I wonder if a much larger force covering Wilts Dorset and Avon and Somerset will be the outcome.

City of London is the smallest - would imagine that may merge with the Met?

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
In "London to the West" [371462/22771/12]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:21, 24th January 2026
 
Reading elsewhere suggestions that it's the line-side wall separating the railway from the coast path rather than the sea wall itself but yes, I would imagine it will slow the reopening somewhat?

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
In "London to the West" [371461/22771/12]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:17, 24th January 2026
 
Blimey!  [Image from here is not available to guests] [Image from here is not available to guests]

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
In "London to the West" [371458/22771/12]
Posted by a-driver at 09:47, 24th January 2026
 
Part of the seawall has been knocked over onto the down main. 

I can't see it opening today,  from Coast Cams there's still waves crashing over and the line through the Dawlish station appears to be flooded

Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371457/31503/31]
Posted by ellendune at 09:37, 24th January 2026
 
As one of the smallest (if not the smallest) forces in the UK I suspect that Wiltshire will be one of those forced to merge.  

I am assuming since the fire service was merged with Dorset, that that will be the likely outcome.  Given the proximity of Salisbury to the Dorset border I suppose this makes sense.

However, our health services cooperate to the west where there is also a large centre of population on the border so that would also make sense.

Remembering the proposals for a Wiltshire, Somerset and Dorset combined authority I wonder if a much larger force covering Wilts Dorset and Avon and Somerset will be the outcome.

Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371456/31503/31]
Posted by grahame at 09:35, 24th January 2026
 
Police forces and areas date back, don't they, to a far less mobile age?  Yet at the same time so much activity is seen to be very local.   There is already, I have observed, a mechanism in place to loan police officers across force boundaries in the event of a signifiant need in another force area.  I've heard enough to wonder and know the questions and comment that perhaps policing needs to catch up with a more joined up structure, but I don't know enough to suggest how that might best be done.

Re: OTD - 24th January (2007&8) - Unrest at First's franchise performance
In "Railway History and related topics" [371455/25928/55]
Posted by grahame at 09:01, 24th January 2026
 
... and now 19 years ago. [Image from here is not available to guests]

Has nothing been learned, or done, in that time? [Image from here is not available to guests]

Some things HAVE been done and learned ... but they have not caught up with demand.   Demand has risen from 1.1 billion to 1.6 billion journeys per annum from 2006 to 2026 ... and in 2006 it had already risen from 0.7 billion journey two decades earlier.    Hypothetical, but those figures would have been even higher had it not been for the reset enforced by covid.

Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371454/31503/31]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:48, 24th January 2026
 
Instead of a wholesale reorganisation how about we get our political 'leaders' (=Home Office, best of luck with that) to instruct the police forces to do their job properly?

The antics of the College of Policing regarding Non-Crime Hate Incidents (NCHI's) prove that at least part of the overall service has 'gone native' and needs to be reined in.

Any UK body which is funded from the public purse should understand that they are required to do as they are bloody well told and that authority can only come from our elected representatives.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
In "London to the West" [371453/22771/12]
Posted by bradshaw at 08:36, 24th January 2026
 
Overnight at West Bay the waves were consistently 5 m and peaking at over 8 metres for a few hours. Winds gusting to 40 knots

Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [371452/569/25]
Posted by Pb_devon at 08:12, 24th January 2026
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White water rafting, anyone?  [Image from here is not available to guests]

I did that on the Zambesi many years ago….maybe I should have waited to do it on the East Looe River!

Re: Devon to Africa three-wheeler record attempt bid paused after engine 'exploded'
In "The Lighter Side" [371451/31501/30]
Posted by Mark A at 07:27, 24th January 2026
 
Rather than bring firearms into it, don't they perhaps mean that 'Sheila threw a leg out of bed'?

An issue with those might be that they have the two wheels on the wrong end.

Mark

Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371450/31503/31]
Posted by Electric train at 07:22, 24th January 2026
 
What will happen with the small "specialist" forces such as BTP? Combined with MoD Police, Atomic Energy Police etc??

Nothing, I suspect.

These a specialist Police Constabularies which are funded differently to the "civilian" Constabularies. 

BTP is funded by the National rail system (NR, ToC FoC etc), TfL (London Underground, Docklands Light Railway, , Croydon Tramlink), Tyne and Wear Metro, Glasgow Subway, the Midland Metro tram system and IFS cloud cable car; there is funding from the Home Office via the DfT.


Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371449/31503/31]
Posted by CyclingSid at 05:31, 24th January 2026
 
What will happen with the small "specialist" forces such as BTP? Combined with MoD Police, Atomic Energy Police etc??

Re: OTD - 24th January (2007&8) - Unrest at First's franchise performance
In "Railway History and related topics" [371448/25928/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 02:55, 24th January 2026
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... and now 19 years ago. [Image from here is not available to guests]

Has nothing been learned, or done, in that time? [Image from here is not available to guests]

Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371446/31503/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 01:32, 24th January 2026
 
This is another subject which doesn't really sit easily within any of the definitions of intended content in our existing boards - but I'm not going to create yet another board, so I'll post this here:

From the BBC:

Number of police forces to be cut in major shake-up

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The government is to radically reduce the number of police forces in England and Wales as part of what sources have called the largest reform of policing in decades.

Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood will announce plans for police reform next week. She will pledge to "significantly" cut the number of forces from its current level of 43, and tell them to focus on serious and organised crime. Police chiefs have been calling for the creation of 12 "mega forces" to save money and boost crime-fighting efforts.

It could be years before changes are implemented, with government sources saying only that it will happen by the end of the next parliament, around 2034.

Mahmood will argue in a policy proposal that the current model of 43 forces is bureaucratic and wastes money, with each force running their own headquarters, management teams and backroom staff.

Ministers also believe the performance of local forces varies too widely across England. They believe smaller forces are less well equipped to deal with serious crime and respond to major incidents.

Mahmood is expected to say new, larger forces should focus on tackling serious and organised crime, as well as complex cases like murder and drugs. Ministers will also announce plans for new Local Policing Areas, with local officers focusing on neighbourhood policing.

It is proposed these will be set up in every borough, town or city across in England, and will be tasked with working with communities and fighting what the government calls "local crime", such as shoplifting, phone theft and drug dealing.

Government insiders acknowledge there is an "epidemic of every day offences" going unpunished, and say they believe criminals think they can "cause havoc on our streets with impunity" because people are forced to wait hours or days for police to investigate crimes. A government source said: "Where you live will no longer determine the outcomes you get from your force."

Ministers will not say next week exactly how many forces will exist under the new framework. Instead, an independent review will be announced to looking at precise details. Similar cuts have been proposed as long as 20 years ago, when then Home Secretary Charles Clarke suggested cutting the number of forces to 12.

Scotland also merged its forces in 2013 to create Police Scotland.

The home secretary's allies will sell these reforms as part of her "modernising agenda". A source said: "For decades, people have called for forces to be merged. Mahmood is a politician who is not scared of bold reform and a political fight."

Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch said: "Keir Starmer's forced police reorganisation will undermine efforts to flight crime across England and Wales, inevitably leading to centralised control and reduced policing in towns and villages across the country."

Some police chiefs have called for a revamp of policing in England and have backed reducing the number of forces.

Chief Constable Gavin Stephens, chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council, said: "Crime is changing, technology is evolving, and we need to be set up in the best possible way to tackle crime in the modern world, relentlessly focused on good quality neighbourhood policing alongside national threats. I know the home secretary shares this ambition. We look forward to seeing the government's white paper and working with them to ensure policing delivers outstanding results and rebuilds confidence with the communities we serve."

A spokesman for the Policing Federation, which represents officers from the rank of constable to chief inspector, said: "Fewer forces doesn't guarantee more or better policing for communities. Skills, capabilities and equipment need significant investment if the public and officers are going to see reform deliver in the real world. Any proposals must be driven by evidence and best practice, not lowest cost, and must strengthen rather than weaken frontline, investigative and specialist capability, neighbourhood policing and public confidence."



Declaration of interest

I was a police officer, in uniform, with Avon & Somerset Constabulary, 1980 to 1995. At that time, and now, I support the reduction of the present 43 police force areas to fewer, in the interests of improved efficiency.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [371444/28982/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:58, 23rd January 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
Did I see a 175 at Saltash this afternoon?

That, or you may need to update your medication. [Image from here is not available to guests]

Devon to Africa three-wheeler record attempt bid paused after engine 'exploded'
In "The Lighter Side" [371443/31501/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:52, 23rd January 2026
 
This story doesn't seem to fit in any of the existing definitions for the intended content of our existing Coffee Shop topics (and I'm not going to create another one) - so I'll post it here.  This is not an inconsequential subject, it is a commendably worthwhile cause - I wish them well on their venture. [Image from here is not available to guests]

From the BBC:

Three-wheeler record bid paused after engine 'exploded'

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Seth Scott (left) and Ollie Jenks are raising money for Yeovil-based charity, School in a Bag

Two men aiming to break a Guinness World Record - by being the first to travel from Devon to Cape Town in a three-wheeled car - hope to continue their travels after a blown engine ground their journey to a halt.

Oliver Jenks, 34, of Newton Abbot, Devon, and Seth Scott, 31, from Canada, set off from London on 24 October in their Reliant Robin called "Sheila the three-wheeler".

Speaking from Cameroon in central Africa, Jenks said: "There was a big knocking come from the engine. As we were on our way to the Congo [the engine] then exploded and nearly took off my leg."

Jenks thought the 10,000-mile (about 16,000km) journey had come to an end but said a replacement engine was being sent from Exeter.

The pair are raising money for Yeovil-based charity School in a Bag.

Speaking to Caroline Densley on BBC Radio Devon, Jenks said the incident had left "a gaping hole" in the side of the engine. "[It was] literally like somebody had shot it," he added. "We both knew it was over from there, really. We instantly accepted defeat."

Jenks said he and Scott were rescued by a group of people who picked them up in the back of a cattle truck. "Getting the car in the back was very difficult indeed, it was absolutely crazy," he added.

Jenks continued: "We had to take the doors off the back of the truck for Sheila to go up. We ended up being in the back of that truck for nine hours."

He said police stopped the cattle truck several times, and added "they were very confused with two men on the back of a cattle truck in a three-wheeled car".

"We had to explain ourselves six times in the middle of the night. Like, 'no we're not being taken hostage, they're just taking us back to the capital'," he said.

Jenks said the pair had managed to crowdfund money to pay for a new engine, which should arrive on Wednesday.


Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [371442/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 22:43, 23rd January 2026
 
Did I see a 175 at Saltash this afternoon?
175001 been to Newton Abbot and Penzance
175007 had a couple of runs to Lostwithel and back first then Par and back

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
In "London to the West" [371441/22771/12]
Posted by PhilWakely at 22:41, 23rd January 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, GBM
 
We are struggling to source any replacement road transport - we have fully exhausted the south of England for vehicles for tonight

As well as local coaches from Greenslades, at least one double decker from the Crawley area was in operation at Newton Abbot!

 
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