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| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [371475/22771/12] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:38, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
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| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [371474/22771/12] Posted by IndustryInsider at 12:21, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
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Sometimes you just have to admit that mother nature has won this battle.
I wonder if we'd have been talking about 2014 levels of damage had the resiliance works not been undertaken?
| Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371473/31503/31] Posted by Electric train at 12:12, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
As one of the smallest (if not the smallest) forces in the UK I suspect that Wiltshire will be one of those forced to merge.
I am assuming since the fire service was merged with Dorset, that that will be the likely outcome. Given the proximity of Salisbury to the Dorset border I suppose this makes sense.
However, our health services cooperate to the west where there is also a large centre of population on the border so that would also make sense.
Remembering the proposals for a Wiltshire, Somerset and Dorset combined authority I wonder if a much larger force covering Wilts Dorset and Avon and Somerset will be the outcome.
I am assuming since the fire service was merged with Dorset, that that will be the likely outcome. Given the proximity of Salisbury to the Dorset border I suppose this makes sense.
However, our health services cooperate to the west where there is also a large centre of population on the border so that would also make sense.
Remembering the proposals for a Wiltshire, Somerset and Dorset combined authority I wonder if a much larger force covering Wilts Dorset and Avon and Somerset will be the outcome.
City of London is the smallest - would imagine that may merge with the Met?
Not sure about that, City of London Police is funded mostly by the Corporation of London ie the City.
I can see TVP being merged with Hampshire, possibly Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire as well; TVP is already the largest non-metropolitan Police force in England
| Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371472/31503/31] Posted by eightonedee at 11:59, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
From the local press, it is clear that the Thames Valley and Hampshire forces now share a lot of resources, so a merger of these seems likely.
There is anecdotal evidence from the merger of ambulance services that while costs might be saved, the loss of more detailed local knowledge can cause problems, for example in getting help speedily to a specific address. The control structure and training of front line staff will be important.
As to Bob's point about "non-crime hate incidents", I suspect this might be driven by Home Office directed guidance and policy, backed up by unconscious bias training and similar innovations of recent decades. We have to remember that Police work goes well beyond detecting crime, to generally trying to ensure safety and public order, right down to such difficult jobs like dealing with informing relatives of accidental deaths and attending suicides and serious accidents.
I do though agree that the non-crime hate business went too far, particularly as it gives the impression that some hate is permitted, and other hate is not. We should just be grateful that we don't have trigger-happy armed state organisations roaming our streets - here's looking at you (again) Donald Trump.
| 'Platform slip shows issues for blind rail users' In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371471/31504/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:50, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
'Platform slip shows issues for blind rail users'
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Terri Ballon, seen with her guide dog Cinnamon, wants better passenger assistance for railway users
A blind woman who slipped on an icy platform after stepping off a train has joined calls to increase accessibility on the public transport network.
Terri Ballon, from Leigh in Greater Manchester, said she nearly fell when no support staff were available to help her when her train arrived at London Euston earlier this month, despite her having booked passenger assistance, external.
The Royal National Institute of Blind People (RNIB) campaign officer said other commuters had also reported "unreliable and inconsistent" passenger assistance services.
The Department for Transport has been asked to comment.
In a recent report, the RNIB said more than 60% of 1,200 respondents had revealed they had not been consistently met by staff at stations, despite booking passenger assistance in advance.
Terri, 64, said she the passenger assistance support on her recent journey to London during railworks over the new year had gone "extremely well" until the train's arrival. "When I alighted at Euston, the member of staff wasn't there initially and because it was icy on the platform, as I stepped off of the train, my foot slipped and I almost fell. If I'd have fallen, I would have hit my head backwards on the step of the train." She added that her personal experience of rail transport overall was "very mixed".
"There are some areas and places that are absolutely brilliant. Some of that is due perhaps to being a regular customer and known, and then there are some other situations which are really, really, very distressing."
She said there was no accessible toilet on the train to London earlier this month, meaning she "had to use the small cubicle ones with the door slightly open with my guide dog's lead". Terri continued: "So my dog had to stand through the open doorway. Now that's OK for myself - it's not great - but for other disabled people, that's obviously a very serious issue indeed."
Nearly 80% of respondents to the RNIB survey also reported challenges finding their carriage and an appropriate seat. Poor quality audio on rail announcements was also a problem for about 55% of respondents, while two thirds said they had experienced problems opening train doors.
Terri said the majority believed said they would benefit from "tactile wayfinding, which is a tactile-coloured path on the floor that would direct a person to important station facilities such as platforms". However she described the government's recent announcement that they would not improve accessibility at 19 stations as a "concern for us as well as obviously many other disabled people". She also said the "retention of a ticket office is vital, not only as a key point for passengers being able to locate where they can get assistance, but also in the purchase of the ticket".
Erik Matthies, RNIB's policy lead for travel and transport, said: "With the government's new Railways Bill, working towards the establishment of Great British Railways, now is a perfect opportunity to address these issues."
A spokeswoman for the Rail Delivery Group, which represents train operating companies, said improving accessibility was "essential to making sure passengers can travel independently". She added: "We know sometimes we don't get it right, but the whole rail industry is working hard to improve how we support passengers with accessibility needs."
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Terri Ballon, seen with her guide dog Cinnamon, wants better passenger assistance for railway users
A blind woman who slipped on an icy platform after stepping off a train has joined calls to increase accessibility on the public transport network.
Terri Ballon, from Leigh in Greater Manchester, said she nearly fell when no support staff were available to help her when her train arrived at London Euston earlier this month, despite her having booked passenger assistance, external.
The Royal National Institute of Blind People (RNIB) campaign officer said other commuters had also reported "unreliable and inconsistent" passenger assistance services.
The Department for Transport has been asked to comment.
In a recent report, the RNIB said more than 60% of 1,200 respondents had revealed they had not been consistently met by staff at stations, despite booking passenger assistance in advance.
Terri, 64, said she the passenger assistance support on her recent journey to London during railworks over the new year had gone "extremely well" until the train's arrival. "When I alighted at Euston, the member of staff wasn't there initially and because it was icy on the platform, as I stepped off of the train, my foot slipped and I almost fell. If I'd have fallen, I would have hit my head backwards on the step of the train." She added that her personal experience of rail transport overall was "very mixed".
"There are some areas and places that are absolutely brilliant. Some of that is due perhaps to being a regular customer and known, and then there are some other situations which are really, really, very distressing."
She said there was no accessible toilet on the train to London earlier this month, meaning she "had to use the small cubicle ones with the door slightly open with my guide dog's lead". Terri continued: "So my dog had to stand through the open doorway. Now that's OK for myself - it's not great - but for other disabled people, that's obviously a very serious issue indeed."
Nearly 80% of respondents to the RNIB survey also reported challenges finding their carriage and an appropriate seat. Poor quality audio on rail announcements was also a problem for about 55% of respondents, while two thirds said they had experienced problems opening train doors.
Terri said the majority believed said they would benefit from "tactile wayfinding, which is a tactile-coloured path on the floor that would direct a person to important station facilities such as platforms". However she described the government's recent announcement that they would not improve accessibility at 19 stations as a "concern for us as well as obviously many other disabled people". She also said the "retention of a ticket office is vital, not only as a key point for passengers being able to locate where they can get assistance, but also in the purchase of the ticket".
Erik Matthies, RNIB's policy lead for travel and transport, said: "With the government's new Railways Bill, working towards the establishment of Great British Railways, now is a perfect opportunity to address these issues."
A spokeswoman for the Rail Delivery Group, which represents train operating companies, said improving accessibility was "essential to making sure passengers can travel independently". She added: "We know sometimes we don't get it right, but the whole rail industry is working hard to improve how we support passengers with accessibility needs."
| Re: OTD - 24th January (2007&8) - Unrest at First's franchise performance In "Railway History and related topics" [371470/25928/55] Posted by eightonedee at 11:42, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
Hypothetical, but those figures would have been even higher had it not been for the reset enforced by covid.
...or indeed the reputation for unreliability that some of their services now have (see our own boards for Swindon-Westbury and the North Cotswolds line) and also in our part of the world, the loss of direct trains to Oxford from all stations between Tilehurst and Cholsey.
| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [371468/22771/12] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:41, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Storm Ingrid: Part of historic Teignmouth pier washes away in 'wild' storm
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Part of Teignmouth Grand Pier has washed away in the storm
Part of a historic pier has washed away as Storm Ingrid brings heavy rain and strong winds to Devon and Cornwall.
Teignmouth mayor Cate Williams said the town had "taken a real battering" overnight into Saturday with "just wild" waves damaging part of the Teignmouth Grand Pier.
A Met Office yellow warning for rain is in place until 22:00 GMT and the Environment Agency said flood warnings were in place across the south Devon and south Cornwall coasts.
Great Western Railway said the line between Exeter St Davids and Plymouth would remain shut until at least 14:00 because a "significant amount of debris" was on the track at Dawlish due to waves breaching the sea wall.
Teignmouth's mayor said it was "sad" to see part of the resort's pier, which opened in 1867, washed away. "It has lost part of the pier structure itself, that has dissolved and gone away into the sea," she said. "It's an old pier and it was needing some attention and I suppose age and wear and tear has taken its toll. It has survived many weather conditions as well as world wars. It's sad when you look at it now to see some of it now missing."
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A tree fell down in Heavitree Park in Exeter during high winds
Trees have also come down across the region, with one blocking both lanes of the A377 near Lapford, Devon County Council said.
Cornwall Council warned trees might still be weak or unstable following Storm Goretti.
Meanwhile, Network Rail issued a black alert, its highest warning, as 12ft (4m) waves hit the sea wall at Dawlish. It is only the second time a black alert has been issued since a storm destroyed sections of the track around Dawlish in February 2014.
Rail services have also been cancelled between Par and Newquay and Liskeard and Looe due to flooding.
GWR said the sea wall at Dawlish would be inspected once the storm had passed. The firm advised passengers to avoid rail travel until later with tickets remaining valid on Sunday.
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Waves overtopped the sea wall at Penzance on Friday
GWR spokesman James Davis said: "There's been a significant amount of debris that the sea has thrown onto the track that will need to be cleared before we can run trains safely. The line remains closed and we have a limited bus replacement service operating. Clearly, if the same number of people choose to travel as normal you're going to find yourself waiting quite some time."
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Part of Teignmouth Grand Pier has washed away in the storm
Part of a historic pier has washed away as Storm Ingrid brings heavy rain and strong winds to Devon and Cornwall.
Teignmouth mayor Cate Williams said the town had "taken a real battering" overnight into Saturday with "just wild" waves damaging part of the Teignmouth Grand Pier.
A Met Office yellow warning for rain is in place until 22:00 GMT and the Environment Agency said flood warnings were in place across the south Devon and south Cornwall coasts.
Great Western Railway said the line between Exeter St Davids and Plymouth would remain shut until at least 14:00 because a "significant amount of debris" was on the track at Dawlish due to waves breaching the sea wall.
Teignmouth's mayor said it was "sad" to see part of the resort's pier, which opened in 1867, washed away. "It has lost part of the pier structure itself, that has dissolved and gone away into the sea," she said. "It's an old pier and it was needing some attention and I suppose age and wear and tear has taken its toll. It has survived many weather conditions as well as world wars. It's sad when you look at it now to see some of it now missing."
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A tree fell down in Heavitree Park in Exeter during high winds
Trees have also come down across the region, with one blocking both lanes of the A377 near Lapford, Devon County Council said.
Cornwall Council warned trees might still be weak or unstable following Storm Goretti.
Meanwhile, Network Rail issued a black alert, its highest warning, as 12ft (4m) waves hit the sea wall at Dawlish. It is only the second time a black alert has been issued since a storm destroyed sections of the track around Dawlish in February 2014.
Rail services have also been cancelled between Par and Newquay and Liskeard and Looe due to flooding.
GWR said the sea wall at Dawlish would be inspected once the storm had passed. The firm advised passengers to avoid rail travel until later with tickets remaining valid on Sunday.
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Waves overtopped the sea wall at Penzance on Friday
GWR spokesman James Davis said: "There's been a significant amount of debris that the sea has thrown onto the track that will need to be cleared before we can run trains safely. The line remains closed and we have a limited bus replacement service operating. Clearly, if the same number of people choose to travel as normal you're going to find yourself waiting quite some time."
| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [371467/22771/12] Posted by JayMac at 10:35, 24th January 2026 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() |
Many less informed people on social media complain that it's modern trains' inability to cope with a spray of seawater being the reason trains are on stop. That is a concern, but the main reason is passenger (and staff) safety.
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Oh, and spare a thought for this Network Rail worker:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HASxXofpJ/
| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [371465/22771/12] Posted by a-driver at 10:33, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
Reading elsewhere suggestions that it's the line-side wall separating the railway from the coast path rather than the sea wall itself but yes, I would imagine it will slow the reopening somewhat?
The picture shows which part of the wall has been damaged. I only define it as part of the seawall purely because without it the track bed would continually be washed away or flooded.
| Re: Hampshire County Council plans charges for roadwork lane closures In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371464/31487/51] Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 10:29, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
Oxfordshire is implementing one of these too:
https://oxfordclarion.uk/the-clarion-11-november-2025/
Lane Rental Schemes in other areas have exempted Network Rail from charges, which is perhaps just as well, as the Botley Road railway bridge closure would have been charged at £3m for 1,239 days.
| Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371463/31503/31] Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:26, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
As one of the smallest (if not the smallest) forces in the UK I suspect that Wiltshire will be one of those forced to merge.
I am assuming since the fire service was merged with Dorset, that that will be the likely outcome. Given the proximity of Salisbury to the Dorset border I suppose this makes sense.
However, our health services cooperate to the west where there is also a large centre of population on the border so that would also make sense.
Remembering the proposals for a Wiltshire, Somerset and Dorset combined authority I wonder if a much larger force covering Wilts Dorset and Avon and Somerset will be the outcome.
I am assuming since the fire service was merged with Dorset, that that will be the likely outcome. Given the proximity of Salisbury to the Dorset border I suppose this makes sense.
However, our health services cooperate to the west where there is also a large centre of population on the border so that would also make sense.
Remembering the proposals for a Wiltshire, Somerset and Dorset combined authority I wonder if a much larger force covering Wilts Dorset and Avon and Somerset will be the outcome.
City of London is the smallest - would imagine that may merge with the Met?
| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [371462/22771/12] Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:21, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
Reading elsewhere suggestions that it's the line-side wall separating the railway from the coast path rather than the sea wall itself but yes, I would imagine it will slow the reopening somewhat?
| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [371461/22771/12] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:17, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
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| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [371458/22771/12] Posted by a-driver at 09:47, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
Part of the seawall has been knocked over onto the down main.
I can't see it opening today, from Coast Cams there's still waves crashing over and the line through the Dawlish station appears to be flooded
| Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371457/31503/31] Posted by ellendune at 09:37, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
As one of the smallest (if not the smallest) forces in the UK I suspect that Wiltshire will be one of those forced to merge.
I am assuming since the fire service was merged with Dorset, that that will be the likely outcome. Given the proximity of Salisbury to the Dorset border I suppose this makes sense.
However, our health services cooperate to the west where there is also a large centre of population on the border so that would also make sense.
Remembering the proposals for a Wiltshire, Somerset and Dorset combined authority I wonder if a much larger force covering Wilts Dorset and Avon and Somerset will be the outcome.
| Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371456/31503/31] Posted by grahame at 09:35, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
Police forces and areas date back, don't they, to a far less mobile age? Yet at the same time so much activity is seen to be very local. There is already, I have observed, a mechanism in place to loan police officers across force boundaries in the event of a signifiant need in another force area. I've heard enough to wonder and know the questions and comment that perhaps policing needs to catch up with a more joined up structure, but I don't know enough to suggest how that might best be done.
| Re: OTD - 24th January (2007&8) - Unrest at First's franchise performance In "Railway History and related topics" [371455/25928/55] Posted by grahame at 09:01, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
... and now 19 years ago. [Image from here is not available to guests]
Has nothing been learned, or done, in that time? [Image from here is not available to guests]
Has nothing been learned, or done, in that time? [Image from here is not available to guests]
Some things HAVE been done and learned ... but they have not caught up with demand. Demand has risen from 1.1 billion to 1.6 billion journeys per annum from 2006 to 2026 ... and in 2006 it had already risen from 0.7 billion journey two decades earlier. Hypothetical, but those figures would have been even higher had it not been for the reset enforced by covid.
| Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371454/31503/31] Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:48, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
Instead of a wholesale reorganisation how about we get our political 'leaders' (=Home Office, best of luck with that) to instruct the police forces to do their job properly?
The antics of the College of Policing regarding Non-Crime Hate Incidents (NCHI's) prove that at least part of the overall service has 'gone native' and needs to be reined in.
Any UK body which is funded from the public purse should understand that they are required to do as they are bloody well told and that authority can only come from our elected representatives.
| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [371453/22771/12] Posted by bradshaw at 08:36, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
Overnight at West Bay the waves were consistently 5 m and peaking at over 8 metres for a few hours. Winds gusting to 40 knots
White water rafting, anyone? [Image from here is not available to guests]
I did that on the Zambesi many years ago….maybe I should have waited to do it on the East Looe River!
| Re: Devon to Africa three-wheeler record attempt bid paused after engine 'exploded' In "The Lighter Side" [371451/31501/30] Posted by Mark A at 07:27, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
Rather than bring firearms into it, don't they perhaps mean that 'Sheila threw a leg out of bed'?
An issue with those might be that they have the two wheels on the wrong end.
Mark
| Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371450/31503/31] Posted by Electric train at 07:22, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
What will happen with the small "specialist" forces such as BTP? Combined with MoD Police, Atomic Energy Police etc??
Nothing, I suspect.
These a specialist Police Constabularies which are funded differently to the "civilian" Constabularies.
BTP is funded by the National rail system (NR, ToC FoC etc), TfL (London Underground, Docklands Light Railway, , Croydon Tramlink), Tyne and Wear Metro, Glasgow Subway, the Midland Metro tram system and IFS cloud cable car; there is funding from the Home Office via the DfT.
| Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371449/31503/31] Posted by CyclingSid at 05:31, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
What will happen with the small "specialist" forces such as BTP? Combined with MoD Police, Atomic Energy Police etc??
... and now 19 years ago. [Image from here is not available to guests]
Has nothing been learned, or done, in that time? [Image from here is not available to guests]
| Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371446/31503/31] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 01:32, 24th January 2026 | ![]() |
This is another subject which doesn't really sit easily within any of the definitions of intended content in our existing boards - but I'm not going to create yet another board, so I'll post this here:
From the BBC:
Number of police forces to be cut in major shake-up
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The government is to radically reduce the number of police forces in England and Wales as part of what sources have called the largest reform of policing in decades.
Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood will announce plans for police reform next week. She will pledge to "significantly" cut the number of forces from its current level of 43, and tell them to focus on serious and organised crime. Police chiefs have been calling for the creation of 12 "mega forces" to save money and boost crime-fighting efforts.
It could be years before changes are implemented, with government sources saying only that it will happen by the end of the next parliament, around 2034.
Mahmood will argue in a policy proposal that the current model of 43 forces is bureaucratic and wastes money, with each force running their own headquarters, management teams and backroom staff.
Ministers also believe the performance of local forces varies too widely across England. They believe smaller forces are less well equipped to deal with serious crime and respond to major incidents.
Mahmood is expected to say new, larger forces should focus on tackling serious and organised crime, as well as complex cases like murder and drugs. Ministers will also announce plans for new Local Policing Areas, with local officers focusing on neighbourhood policing.
It is proposed these will be set up in every borough, town or city across in England, and will be tasked with working with communities and fighting what the government calls "local crime", such as shoplifting, phone theft and drug dealing.
Government insiders acknowledge there is an "epidemic of every day offences" going unpunished, and say they believe criminals think they can "cause havoc on our streets with impunity" because people are forced to wait hours or days for police to investigate crimes. A government source said: "Where you live will no longer determine the outcomes you get from your force."
Ministers will not say next week exactly how many forces will exist under the new framework. Instead, an independent review will be announced to looking at precise details. Similar cuts have been proposed as long as 20 years ago, when then Home Secretary Charles Clarke suggested cutting the number of forces to 12.
Scotland also merged its forces in 2013 to create Police Scotland.
The home secretary's allies will sell these reforms as part of her "modernising agenda". A source said: "For decades, people have called for forces to be merged. Mahmood is a politician who is not scared of bold reform and a political fight."
Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch said: "Keir Starmer's forced police reorganisation will undermine efforts to flight crime across England and Wales, inevitably leading to centralised control and reduced policing in towns and villages across the country."
Some police chiefs have called for a revamp of policing in England and have backed reducing the number of forces.
Chief Constable Gavin Stephens, chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council, said: "Crime is changing, technology is evolving, and we need to be set up in the best possible way to tackle crime in the modern world, relentlessly focused on good quality neighbourhood policing alongside national threats. I know the home secretary shares this ambition. We look forward to seeing the government's white paper and working with them to ensure policing delivers outstanding results and rebuilds confidence with the communities we serve."
A spokesman for the Policing Federation, which represents officers from the rank of constable to chief inspector, said: "Fewer forces doesn't guarantee more or better policing for communities. Skills, capabilities and equipment need significant investment if the public and officers are going to see reform deliver in the real world. Any proposals must be driven by evidence and best practice, not lowest cost, and must strengthen rather than weaken frontline, investigative and specialist capability, neighbourhood policing and public confidence."
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The government is to radically reduce the number of police forces in England and Wales as part of what sources have called the largest reform of policing in decades.
Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood will announce plans for police reform next week. She will pledge to "significantly" cut the number of forces from its current level of 43, and tell them to focus on serious and organised crime. Police chiefs have been calling for the creation of 12 "mega forces" to save money and boost crime-fighting efforts.
It could be years before changes are implemented, with government sources saying only that it will happen by the end of the next parliament, around 2034.
Mahmood will argue in a policy proposal that the current model of 43 forces is bureaucratic and wastes money, with each force running their own headquarters, management teams and backroom staff.
Ministers also believe the performance of local forces varies too widely across England. They believe smaller forces are less well equipped to deal with serious crime and respond to major incidents.
Mahmood is expected to say new, larger forces should focus on tackling serious and organised crime, as well as complex cases like murder and drugs. Ministers will also announce plans for new Local Policing Areas, with local officers focusing on neighbourhood policing.
It is proposed these will be set up in every borough, town or city across in England, and will be tasked with working with communities and fighting what the government calls "local crime", such as shoplifting, phone theft and drug dealing.
Government insiders acknowledge there is an "epidemic of every day offences" going unpunished, and say they believe criminals think they can "cause havoc on our streets with impunity" because people are forced to wait hours or days for police to investigate crimes. A government source said: "Where you live will no longer determine the outcomes you get from your force."
Ministers will not say next week exactly how many forces will exist under the new framework. Instead, an independent review will be announced to looking at precise details. Similar cuts have been proposed as long as 20 years ago, when then Home Secretary Charles Clarke suggested cutting the number of forces to 12.
Scotland also merged its forces in 2013 to create Police Scotland.
The home secretary's allies will sell these reforms as part of her "modernising agenda". A source said: "For decades, people have called for forces to be merged. Mahmood is a politician who is not scared of bold reform and a political fight."
Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch said: "Keir Starmer's forced police reorganisation will undermine efforts to flight crime across England and Wales, inevitably leading to centralised control and reduced policing in towns and villages across the country."
Some police chiefs have called for a revamp of policing in England and have backed reducing the number of forces.
Chief Constable Gavin Stephens, chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council, said: "Crime is changing, technology is evolving, and we need to be set up in the best possible way to tackle crime in the modern world, relentlessly focused on good quality neighbourhood policing alongside national threats. I know the home secretary shares this ambition. We look forward to seeing the government's white paper and working with them to ensure policing delivers outstanding results and rebuilds confidence with the communities we serve."
A spokesman for the Policing Federation, which represents officers from the rank of constable to chief inspector, said: "Fewer forces doesn't guarantee more or better policing for communities. Skills, capabilities and equipment need significant investment if the public and officers are going to see reform deliver in the real world. Any proposals must be driven by evidence and best practice, not lowest cost, and must strengthen rather than weaken frontline, investigative and specialist capability, neighbourhood policing and public confidence."
Declaration of interest
I was a police officer, in uniform, with Avon & Somerset Constabulary, 1980 to 1995. At that time, and now, I support the reduction of the present 43 police force areas to fewer, in the interests of improved efficiency.














