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Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
21.8.2025 (Thursday) 07:26 - All running AOK
 
Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by JayMac at 22:57, 20th August 2025
 
Just noticed 14 blokes in the publicity picture and no bloke-esses.   Probably not PC to comment.

Things are getting better, but the workforce in engineering is still very male dominated. And non-sporting, non physical, record breaking efforts tend also to be male dominated.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:24, 20th August 2025
 
No toilets either I gather

Well, that's becoming a more common problem generally. 

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by ChrisB at 21:13, 20th August 2025
 
While undoubtedly it was an achievement, we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact it was achieved with slow speed running and no on-board heating.  A lower range to allow improved speed and conditions would still allow branch line services but we need to be mindful of the practical limitations.

No toilets either I gather

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by grahame at 20:44, 20th August 2025
 
GWRs own piece -

https://news.gwr.com/news/great-western-railway-battery-train-sets-new-world-distance-record-of-200-miles-to-celebrate-railway-200-in-style

Just noticed 14 blokes in the publicity picture and no bloke-esses.   Probably not PC to comment.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by Mark A at 20:39, 20th August 2025
 
While undoubtedly it was an achievement, we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact it was achieved with slow speed running and no on-board heating.  A lower range to allow improved speed and conditions would still allow branch line services but we need to be mindful of the practical limitations.

:-) Brought to mind a winter late afternoon return journey from St Erth to Bristol shortly after the IETs had taken over. Train like a fridge and yelled at by frazzled staff for attempting to walk through the kitchen to reach our reserved seats - 2x5 set and that carriage had come to a halt well off the country end of the platform there. First impressions weren't good shall we say though at that time catering *was* still happening west of Plymouth.

Mark

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:53, 20th August 2025
 
I have now updated the headings in this particular topic, to celebrate the event.

CfN. 

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by bradshaw at 19:33, 20th August 2025
 
GWR news release here
https://news.gwr.com/news/great-western-railway-battery-train-sets-new-world-distance-record-of-200-miles-to-celebrate-railway-200-in-style

The notes to editors gives more detail
Conditions

Estimated range

SuperMode – Highest efficiency.   200 miles

All efficiency measures but running at full speed (60 mph).    100-120 miles

Typical branch line operating conditions based on Greenford trial.    50-80 miles


Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by bobm at 19:22, 20th August 2025
 
While undoubtedly it was an achievement, we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact it was achieved with slow speed running and no on-board heating.  A lower range to allow improved speed and conditions would still allow branch line services but we need to be mindful of the practical limitations.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by broadgage at 18:27, 20th August 2025
 
Hopefully we will now see battery trains in daily use soon.
There is in my view a lot to be said for electrification of MOST of a route, but with gaps under low bridges, near station canopies and in places prone to extreme conditions such as Dawlish..
A 200 mile range on battery power would also permit of excursions or railtours to non electrified branches or heritage lines.
Also a "get you home" facility when the wires come down.
Electric power from OHLE between Paddington and Taunton, then battery power to Minehead for example. Charging at Minehead could be arranged, but hardly needed with a 200 mile battery range. A slow charge at say 22 kw would supply on board services without depleting the battery during the layover at Minehead.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by bobm at 16:13, 20th August 2025
 
I’m an OLE man myself

Now there's a phrase you don't hear everyday!

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by ChrisB at 14:46, 20th August 2025
 
GWRs own piece -

https://news.gwr.com/news/great-western-railway-battery-train-sets-new-world-distance-record-of-200-miles-to-celebrate-railway-200-in-style

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by matth1j at 12:43, 20th August 2025
 
Railway Gazette piece:
https://www.railwaygazette.com/uk/battery-train-sets-320-km-distance-record-as-gwr-explores-alternatives-to-diesel-traction/69425.article

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by IndustryInsider at 12:09, 20th August 2025
 
23.7% of charge to spare!

Congratulations to all involved.

Excellent news.


Whoops! All cancelled due to staff shortage - isn't this the route that's operated by the milk float when it isn't out breaking records? Coincidence?

10:30 West Ealing to Greenford due 10:42
10:55 Greenford to West Ealing due 11:06
11:10 West Ealing to Greenford due 11:22
11:25 Greenford to West Ealing due 11:36
11:40 West Ealing to Greenford due 11:52
11:55 Greenford to West Ealing due 12:06
12:10 West Ealing to Greenford due 12:22
12:30 Greenford to West Ealing due 12:41

Did you get up that early to see it pass through Taplow?  https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:V34981/2025-08-20/detailed#allox_id=0

A coincidence, yes.  All 8 ended up being reinstated anyway.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by ChrisB at 09:10, 20th August 2025
 
200 miles achieved
https://x.com/andyroden1/status/1958034728503681257?s=61&t=VlafMC5gF9tidw36b1Y8JQ
Andy Riden posted this screenshot

Another typo!  It's Andy Roden, Modern Railways

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by johnneyw at 08:26, 20th August 2025
 
23.7% of charge to spare!

Blinkin' flip!

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by Timmer at 07:12, 20th August 2025
 
I’m an OLE man myself, but congratulations to all involved. Hopefully this will spur the development battery operated trains to speed up the end of diesel operated trains.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by JayMac at 06:42, 20th August 2025
 
23.7% of charge to spare!

Congratulations to all involved.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by bradshaw at 06:31, 20th August 2025
 
200 miles achieved
https://x.com/andyroden1/status/1958034728503681257?s=61&t=VlafMC5gF9tidw36b1Y8JQ
Andy Roden, Modern Railways, posted this screenshot

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by JayMac at 06:28, 20th August 2025
 
Poor little moles.



Too late to change the typo now!

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by broadgage at 06:10, 20th August 2025
 
Poor little moles.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by JayMac at 06:02, 20th August 2025
 
Now, back to the record attempt...

The world record was broken at 0410 this morning as the Class 230 BEMU crossed Maidenhead Bridge, on its way back from Oxford to Paddington, having travelled 140 miles on a single charge. The unit is, as I type, heading back from Paddington to Reading Traincare Depot to hopefully do a total of 200 moles.

https://x.com/MrTimDunn/status/1958004803549716643

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by JayMac at 05:53, 20th August 2025
 
I seem to remember reading something about there being a green powered dumper truck in Switzerland or somewhere which is charged by way of regeneration when it's in use.

Correct.

It's a huge 45t dump truck that can haul 65t (for a combined mass of 110t) of lime and marl off the side of a mountain in Switzerland and take it downhill to a cement factory. The regenerative braking going down provides enough energy to charge the batteries for the climb back up empty.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a28748306/worlds-largest-electric-vehicle-dump-truck/

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by TaplowGreen at 04:35, 20th August 2025
 

Whoops! All cancelled due to staff shortage - isn't this the route that's operated by the milk float when it isn't out breaking records? Coincidence?

10:30 West Ealing to Greenford due 10:42
10:55 Greenford to West Ealing due 11:06
11:10 West Ealing to Greenford due 11:22
11:25 Greenford to West Ealing due 11:36
11:40 West Ealing to Greenford due 11:52
11:55 Greenford to West Ealing due 12:06
12:10 West Ealing to Greenford due 12:22
12:30 Greenford to West Ealing due 12:41

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 01:13, 20th August 2025
 
I seem to remember reading something about there being a green powered dumper truck in Switzerland or somewhere which is charged by way of regeneration when it's in use.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by johnneyw at 00:10, 20th August 2025
 
There's something called saline gradient power where electricity it generated by the mixed of salt and fresh water.  Could it be an estuary based vessel?

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:27, 19th August 2025
 
Dredging up my rather vague memories of O-level physics ... is it some kind of Newton's Cradle? 

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by JayMac at 23:19, 19th August 2025
 
On a similar theme. A little quiz question...

There's a battery electric vehicle in regular use somewhere in the world that never needs charging, is not connected to the mains in any way, nor does it 'collect' energy from solar or wind. It doesn't have an onboard diesel/petrol/LPG generator, and it is in daily use. It arrived at its location, was fully charged once and has never needed to be charged or powered from mains electricity since.

How is that done (without resorting to Google)?

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:15, 19th August 2025
 
That rather depends upon the build of the journalists. It's probably better to keep them in the dark, anyway.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by JayMac at 23:07, 19th August 2025
 
Cooler night time temperatures may help eke out a few more miles.

I wonder if interior features such as lighting will be kept to a minimum. Also, will carting around too many journalists affect range?

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:33, 19th August 2025
 
... within range of a thunderbird.
I guessed right and in case anyone else is wondering:
https://www.networkrail.co.uk/stories/thunderbirds-are-go/

I've added it to our Coffee Shop forum's Abbreviations and Acronyms page, at https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/acronyms.html

CfN


Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by bradshaw at 20:35, 19th August 2025
 
He confirms tht he will be tweeting during the attempt.

  an overnight attempt to travel 200 miles on a battery ex-Underground train between London & Oxford! It’s going to be a long (max 40mph

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by BBM at 19:59, 19th August 2025
 
Did you not read the original article?

Class 230 will be trying tonight, according to this article

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly79r3911yo

But it doesn't say he'll be tweeting from it

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by ChrisB at 19:44, 19th August 2025
 
Did you not read the original article?

Class 230 will be trying tonight, according to this article

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly79r3911yo

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by BBM at 19:41, 19th August 2025
 
Tim Dunn has posted that he'll be on the train and will tweet from it:

https://x.com/MrTimDunn/status/1957832431463006675

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by PhilWakely at 18:42, 19th August 2025
 
All the best of British to them I say.  Anyone got any idea where the results will first be made public?

Yes, just follow these realtimetrains links.....
I had a look for this run on realtimetrains.

It appears to be https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:V34983/2025-08-20/detailed on the first leg, then https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:V34982/2025-08-20/detailed from Paddington, pathed as 30mph!

It then runs as https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:V34981/2025-08-20/detailed, finally running as https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:V34980/2025-08-20/detailed to get back to the depot.

I hope this goes well tonight - it would be lovely for the UK to be a world leader in any form of rail technology again.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by johnneyw at 18:09, 19th August 2025
 

I hope this goes well tonight - it would be lovely for the UK to be a world leader in any form of rail technology again.

All the best of British to them I say.  Anyone got any idea where the results will first be made public?

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by matth1j at 13:53, 19th August 2025
 
... within range of a thunderbird.
I guessed right and in case anyone else is wondering:
https://www.networkrail.co.uk/stories/thunderbirds-are-go/

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by grahame at 12:26, 19th August 2025
 
It is logical to path it a most efficient speed (which may be 30 m.p.h.) along lines that are as flat as a snooker table to maximise distance covered, and to be within range of a thunderbird.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by nickswift99 at 12:17, 19th August 2025
 
I had a look for this run on realtimetrains.

It appears to be https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:V34983/2025-08-20/detailed on the first leg, then https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:V34982/2025-08-20/detailed from Paddington, pathed as 30mph!

It then runs as https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:V34981/2025-08-20/detailed, finally running as https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:V34980/2025-08-20/detailed to get back to the depot.

I hope this goes well tonight - it would be lovely for the UK to be a world leader in any form of rail technology again.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:16, 19th August 2025
 
Wish them well.  Great publicity for the product and perhaps a world record.

Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
Posted by lbraine at 08:46, 19th August 2025
 
Class 230 will be trying tonight, according to this article

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly79r3911yo

 
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