Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by Andy at 20:58, 6th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
True, bit I'm not sure how the Bank of England issuing notes with Alsthom /Siemens Eurostars and Hitachi IETs would go down with the little Englanders...
Scarily, 158s are knocking on for 40, and not far off the same age as Evening Star was in the year 2000.
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by Mark A at 19:45, 6th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
But yet Evening Star in Green was something of an oddball - a freight loco switched from black because it was the last of a dying breed.
I struggle to reconcile standing beside Evening Star at the NRM and the experience of walking through Devonshire Tunnel and imagining *that* rounding the curve, uphill, in the dark, and passing a refuge in the tunnel wall.
Also, this has put me in mind of the preserved railway at Martel in France, where passengers ride in open sided carriages behind a steam loco which climbs what's basically a cliff face before passing through... a curved tunnel on a gradient, something the loco was doing at fairly slow speed but without much fuss, but it was curious to see the loco exhaust follow some law of physics and rise obediently to the tunnel roof, where, much to most people's relief, it stayed.
Mark
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by grahame at 14:03, 6th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
£5 Blue - Mallard in LNER blue
£10 Brown - Brighton Belle 5BEL in umber/cream
£20 Purple - HST FGW livery
£50 Green - Evening Star in BR Green
£10 Brown - Brighton Belle 5BEL in umber/cream
£20 Purple - HST FGW livery
£50 Green - Evening Star in BR Green
But yet Evening Star in Green was something of an oddball - a freight loco switched from black because it was the last of a dying breed.
Question (to which there is no answer ... or as many answers as we have members) - should bank notes not have something on them that's current and looks forward to the future? I appreciate that we've has lots of dead famous people - but also things like iconic buildings or architectural significance that show the solidity of the country. And on that basis
£5 - Class 230 battery train, suitable for local journeys and a potential workhorse for little things
£10 - Class 158 - beloved workhorse of medium distance services
£20 - IET - covers a lot more than a 158, even if you are uncomfortable in it / spending it
£50 - Latest Eurostar train - showing the significance of big fast journeys and international connections
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by Andy at 13:19, 6th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
As we're in Railway 200 year, Rocket, Ciry of Truro, Mallard and the HST would give us one loco for each 50 years.
If the theme were less general, 4 iconic steamies might be selected from Mallard, Flying Scotsman, City of Truro, King George V, Duchess of Hamilton, Evening Star, Lord Nelson and a Battle of Britain/West Country....
The illustrations would be amazing!
Iconic British diesels? Harder to define....an HST for sure, a Deltic, a Western and an 08 maybe?
If note colour is a factor...
£5 Blue - Mallard in LNER blue
£10 Brown - Brighton Belle 5BEL in umber/cream
£20 Purple - HST FGW livery
£50 Green - Evening Star in BR Green
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by John D at 10:14, 6th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
* Peak of electric locomotive design - what is the peak there?
Peak of design or the first of their kind? Which in the UK would be the Class 81?
Just to be pedantic shouldn't it be this?
I guess it depends how you define "first". I thought the Class 81 was the first fleet of electric locos that BR received. However, I know which one of the two makes for a more impressive illustration.
The Kent dc locos (later class 71) were a year earlier
The first class 81 was November 1959
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by bobm at 09:27, 6th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A pacer on the fiver? Might get some change.
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by infoman at 05:43, 6th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
as long as its not one of idea/s mentioned on another non rail forum to have flowers on the notes.
What ever next? smelly notes of roses?
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by johnneyw at 23:43, 5th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
* Peak of electric locomotive design - what is the peak there?
Peak of design or the first of their kind? Which in the UK would be the Class 81?
Just to be pedantic shouldn't it be this?
I guess it depends how you define "first". I thought the Class 81 was the first fleet of electric locos that BR received. However, I know which one of the two makes for a more impressive illustration.
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by Merthyr Imp at 22:32, 5th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
* Peak of electric locomotive design - what is the peak there?
Peak of design or the first of their kind? Which in the UK would be the Class 81?
Just to be pedantic shouldn't it be this?
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by johnneyw at 20:32, 5th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
* Peak of electric locomotive design - what is the peak there?
Peak of design or the first of their kind? Which in the UK would be the Class 81?
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:51, 5th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
My contribution is to agree that an HST power car must be included.
As the £10 note, this giving it the widest coverage.
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by eightonedee at 17:39, 5th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Please Grahame, this is the GWR Coffee Shop!
It has to be a (proper) Castle class, not a Schools class!
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by grahame at 16:07, 5th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'd suggest Puffing Billy, the oldest surviving steam locomotive as a possibile contender. It has a certain Heath Robinson/steampunk visual appeal to it.
* An early locomotion - or Puffing Billy or rocket
* The peak of steam locomotive design - how about a 4-4-0 Schools class
* An HST Power car - has to be!
* Peak of electric locomotive design - what is the peak there?
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by johnneyw at 15:08, 5th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'd suggest Puffing Billy, the oldest surviving steam locomotive as a possibile contender. It has a certain Heath Robinson/steampunk visual appeal to it.
Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by RichardB at 13:18, 5th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Apparently, the Bank of England is asking for ideas for a theme for new banknotes and one suggestion is locomotives. Which four would you choose for the £5, £10 £20 and £50 notes and why?
How about Locomotion, Rocket (two firsts), Mallard and an HST power car (two record breakers)?
Locomtives on Bank Notes Posted by Andy at 09:13, 5th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Apparently, the Bank of England is asking for ideas for a theme for new banknotes and one suggestion is locomotives. Which four would you choose for the £5, £10 £20 and £50 notes and why?