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Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
As at 29th December 2024 01:11 GMT
 
Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Mark A at 16:10, 26th November 2024
 
Dawlish lifts: dead again until further notice allegedly.

As are the lifts at Exeter St Davids. Does Exeter deploy the barrow crossing when that happens?

Mark

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by broadgage at 04:02, 12th October 2024
 
Looks like the BBC weather app and website have returned to normal. A glitch in their data feed meant they were forecasting temperatures of over 400C and wind speeds of 13000mph for parts of the UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cx25wjjnxp0o


I was briefly alarmed by the forecast of hurricane strength winds, but only very briefly until I noticed the impossible temperatures and wind speeds that were also forecast.
And also the absence of any relevant Met Office severe weather warnings.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by stuving at 20:24, 11th October 2024
 
Interesting comment on Kirk.  I had assumed that the deluge we had on Tuesday afternoon / evening had come from it.

Apparently not. I thought we might have got a bit of very wet air spun off Kirk, but instead a new depression was spun up by one of two bits of jet stream to the south of us. They were also what shepherded Kirk away from us.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Surrey 455 at 19:32, 11th October 2024
 
Looks like the BBC weather app and website have returned to normal. A glitch in their data feed meant they were forecasting temperatures of over 400C and wind speeds of 13000mph for parts of the UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cx25wjjnxp0o

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by eXPassenger at 17:49, 11th October 2024
 
Interesting comment on Kirk.  I had assumed that the deluge we had on Tuesday afternoon / evening had come from it.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by stuving at 13:33, 11th October 2024
 
Just wait until this Wednesday then.....say hello to Kirk for me
We didn't hear much about ex-hurricane Kirk, once it turned up. Which is rather odd, given how close an escape we had, though such news media insularity is quite normal. Kirk's northern edge was sat along the French coast much of Wednesday, and beyond it large rain totals were dropped on already soggy land. The heaviest rain was just outside UK rain radar range, and that gave month-sized rain totals and has caused a lot of flooding.

So if Kirk had been any more than 100 miles to the north, we'd have really noticed it. You can still (just) see Wednesday's rain radar from the Met Office, and a snapshot is attached.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by grahame at 09:00, 6th October 2024
 
Embarrassing that a 30+ year old train has to rescue passengers off a train less than five years old 

You cant expect a new train to be as good as the old ones, in either water resistance or in passenger comfort.
This is called progress..

I'm not so sure - and it so much depends on your definition of "good".  We are headed off topic and so I have quoted you - and asked opinions - at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/29267

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by broadgage at 21:42, 5th October 2024
 
Embarrassing that a 30+ year old train has to rescue passengers off a train less than five years old 

You cant expect a new train to be as good as the old ones, in either water resistance or in passenger comfort.
This is called progress..

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by JayMac at 19:02, 5th October 2024
 
IETs not calling at Dawlish this evening.

From GWR:

Due to forecasted severe weather at Dawlish fewer trains are able to run on all lines.

Impact:
Train services running through this station will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Customer Advice:
Due to expected bad weather in South Devon this evening, as precaution we will be limiting the number of trains calling at Dawlish station.

Only a few trains will be affected, but if you are on a train that is, please adhere to the following advice:

Customers on trains from London Paddington, or north of Dawlish should change at Exeter St. David's where connections are available.

For those travelling from Cornwall and other stations south of Dawlish, please change at Newton Abbot for connections.

We apologise for the inconvenience this evening.

TRAIN PLAN:
The following Up trains will not call at Dawlish:
2M72
2U32
2E30

The following Down trains will not call at Dawlish:
1C89
2C87
1C84.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Clan Line at 15:22, 5th October 2024
 

Perhaps, in exposed positions, include consultancy advice from a shetland pony. The one in the photo below had its back to a clear run of sea all the way from Nova Scotia.

Mark



I digress............but every time I see a Shetland Pony, this springs to mind .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfccMaskBWk

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by grahame at 13:04, 5th October 2024
 
One day I must get to Dawlish...

Greetings *from* Dawlish.  A bit blowy today - some pictures to follow.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Mark A at 12:14, 5th October 2024
 

Dawlish: Lifts out of order
The (NEW) lifts will be out of order between Platform 1 and Platform 1 from now until further notice at Dawlish station.
Last Updated:04/10/2024 17:40

***snip***


One day I must get to Dawlish...

If the platform 1 lift is suffering from its exposed position, it was suggested during the planning consultation that the the lift shaft elements of the design be rotated so that they had their backs to the sea.

As built, the footbridge is unroofed, the lift entrance is facing south west - side on to the sea and in a hostile environment that could have been mitigated.

For good measure, the ridgeback top of the parapet on the seaward side isn't ideal and nor is the fact that airflow over the parapet will then interact with the canopy above the lift entrance, which is pitched upwards to catch it, so the lift entrance may be seeing a regular hosing with salt spray.

Perhaps, in exposed positions, include consultancy advice from a shetland pony. The one in the photo below had its back to a clear run of sea all the way from Nova Scotia.

Mark


Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by ChrisB at 12:09, 5th October 2024
 
Just wait until this Wednesday then.....say hello to Kirk for me

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:01, 5th October 2024
 
£80 million spent on a new sea wall...........

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by AMLAG at 09:59, 5th October 2024
 

Dawlish: Lifts out of order
The (NEW) lifts will be out of order between Platform 1 and Platform 1 from now until further notice at Dawlish station.
Last Updated:04/10/2024 17:40

0540 Pz/ Cdff ( IET) not calling Dawlish on the face of it seemed over cautious, start of winds approx 20 mph SE today take some hours to build up to a threat to these failure prone trains at and a few hours either side of high( especially Spring) tides with S/SE winds of above about 15 mph.



Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:23, 5th October 2024
 
Stops at Dawlish are being withdrawn from IET services this evening due to forecasted severe weather.

I appreciate the need for caution after last weekend's events, but given the bad weather isn't expected to arrive until this evening, this, and other alterations this morning, seem a bit unnecessary?

05:40 Penzance to Cardiff Central due 11:19
05:40 Penzance to Cardiff Central due 11:19 will no longer call at Dawlish but will call additionally at Tiverton Parkway.
This is due to forecasted severe weather.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by plymothian at 07:20, 5th October 2024
 
Stops at Dawlish are being withdrawn from IET services this evening due to forecasted severe weather.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Mark A at 09:25, 1st October 2024
 
Years ago, I and others doubted that the IETs would cope with the well known severe conditions at Dawlish.
Supporters of the new units assured as that coping with conditions at Dawlish was an "essential requirement" and that the new trains would be fine !
When this was found not to be the case, one respected member stated that the "essential requirement" meant that the decorative finish should withstand the conditions, and not that the trains should actually function in bad weather !

ANOTHER victory for my crystal ball 


I don't know the materials involved but, what are we, six years in, something's unhappy. How similar is the LNER fleet, and how are they doing? They seem to be under a different exterior cleaning regime though.

Mark


Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by GBM at 08:49, 1st October 2024
 
24 hours after it failed on the seawall yesterday, the nine car IET (802108) departed Newton Abbot a short while ago to head to North Pole depot via London Paddington.   

Following its rescue yesterday it had been left on Platform 3 at Newton Abbot causing some congestion today.
Any news on the other train that failed?

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by broadgage at 08:40, 1st October 2024
 
Years ago, I and others doubted that the IETs would cope with the well known severe conditions at Dawlish.
Supporters of the new units assured as that coping with conditions at Dawlish was an "essential requirement" and that the new trains would be fine !
When this was found not to be the case, one respected member stated that the "essential requirement" meant that the decorative finish should withstand the conditions, and not that the trains should actually function in bad weather !

ANOTHER victory for my crystal ball 


Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by grahame at 16:57, 30th September 2024
 
Following its rescue yesterday it had been left on Platform 3 at Newton Abbot causing some congestion today.

Not the first time (though perhaps the first time for that particular unit). Is there a shortage of side tracks onto which trains that fail can be placed without getting in the way?

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by bobm at 15:38, 30th September 2024
 
24 hours after it failed on the seawall yesterday, the nine car IET (802108) departed Newton Abbot a short while ago to head to North Pole depot via London Paddington.   

Following its rescue yesterday it had been left on Platform 3 at Newton Abbot causing some congestion today.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by old original at 13:30, 30th September 2024
 
There's a video from coastal camera footage arrived in my You Tube feed showing the rescue of the broken down train at Dawlish - link here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB9YYWmXQsU

It seems that this was an unfortunate coincidence of high spring tides around the autumn equinox and strong SE winds. Might a precautionary suspension of Inter-city services and shuttle with sprinters be a good idea as a standing contingency plan? No doubt those in the business will know if that's possible.

The equinox spring tides were about 8-9 days ago and nearly a metre higher than yesterday. That would have been interesting!!!

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by eightonedee at 12:56, 30th September 2024
 
There's a video from coastal camera footage arrived in my You Tube feed showing the rescue of the broken down train at Dawlish - link here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB9YYWmXQsU

It seems that this was an unfortunate coincidence of high spring tides around the autumn equinox and strong SE winds. Might a precautionary suspension of Inter-city services and shuttle with sprinters be a good idea as a standing contingency plan? No doubt those in the business will know if that's possible.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by a-driver at 10:09, 30th September 2024
 
Suspect there will be a few of these today. I had 4 friends (2 couples) trying to get to Plymouth from Exeter late afternoon/evening, one managed to get on a bus, the others booked into a hotel and have been advised to send details/receipts to GWR.

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/14-month-old-baby-among-9591164?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1727651345



Some newspaper reports and stories need to be taken with a pinch of salt.  You get those who got on replacement buses or into a taxi and then there’s those at the same location who claim to have been left “stranded”.  I suppose with a 14-month old baby it’s a long journey by road when you don’t have a car seat perhaps and the parents rightfully may have had safety concerns?

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:05, 30th September 2024
 
Suspect there will be a few of these today. I had 4 friends (2 couples) trying to get to Plymouth from Exeter late afternoon/evening, one managed to get on a bus, the others booked into a hotel and have been advised to send details/receipts to GWR.

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/14-month-old-baby-among-9591164?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1727651345


Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Trowres at 22:52, 29th September 2024
 
The 5-car IET rescue train arrived at Dawlish 21:52. Appeared to couple up at 22:05.

I'm unable to speculate on whatever was happening in the following minutes. The weather made working conditions unpleasant!

The failed 2C77 finally on the move at 22:38.

As it arrived at Dawlish at 15:59, that's an impressive 6 hours 39 minutes stationary.

Two trains formed of Voyager (22x) units have passed the failed train this evening, heading towards Plymouth. The 1C96 from Paddington looks like it might actually make it to Plymouth, while the final down service is another Voyager from Gloucester.

In the up direction, the last train from Plymouth to reach Exeter or beyond seems to have been the 15:02 departure.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by RailCornwall at 22:14, 29th September 2024
 
I'm really surprised that with what's fallen down here today that the met office hasn't named this storm.

Some reports of passengers stuck at Exeter St Davids and Plymouth. No RR being offered.

According to the MetOffice's dynamic map forecasts luckily the recovery operation can now start winds have dropped and no more appreciable rainfall is due in the coming days.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by anthony215 at 21:43, 29th September 2024
 
Embarrassing that a 30+ year old train has to rescue passengers off a train less than five years old 

Giving DFT etc more ammo to use against Hitachi.  Off topic but any future train orders I'd be really shocked if Hitachi got on the list

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Timmer at 21:13, 29th September 2024
 
Embarrassing that a 30+ year old train has to rescue passengers off a train less than five years old 

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Trowres at 21:04, 29th September 2024
 
Is someone in control reading this thread? The headcode has now changed to 1Z99 

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by bobm at 20:58, 29th September 2024
 
Looks like any who stuck it out were put on the double-150s at Dawlish and taken to Newton Abbot where they could cross platform transfer to 2Z77 to continue west.   I suspect if that unit had been going to rescue 2C77 it would be 1Z..

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Trowres at 20:49, 29th September 2024
 
2Z25 ( a pair of class 150s) ran NTA to Dawlish Warren (shunting over the crossover west of Teignmouth in order to run wrong line past the failed IET). It then returned to NTA.

It looks like the unit that rescued the first train, dragging it to NTA, has now been re-headcoded as 2Z77, so perhaps it it what will rescue 2C77.

It appears 2C77 is actually in Dawlish Station (can see it on the beachcams!). Wonder what the passengers have been doing?


Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by bobm at 18:59, 29th September 2024
 
1Z99 has rescued 1C82 and is now on the way to Newton Abbot.   A second rescue unit is now closing in on 2C77.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by bobm at 18:40, 29th September 2024
 
Night Riviera sleeper cancelled in both directions.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Trowres at 18:31, 29th September 2024
 
NEWQUAY LINE CLOSED
FALMOUTH LINE CLOSED
due to flooding

Well that's certainly the impression given by GWR's Journeycheck information; however 2F88 has just departed Truro and is on its way down the Falmouth Branch. Cue excitement of watching to see if it makes it all the way! 

It arrived on time at Falmouth Docks.     
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But the return working, the 18:23 Falmouth Docks to Truro, 2T88, has taken on a bit of Schrödinger, and is both cancelled ("due to late arrival of an inbound service") and running on time.      

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by bobm at 18:24, 29th September 2024
 
Driver was able to drive the train back to Exeter at reduced speed.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:20, 29th September 2024
 
Hmm. Was the tree on the railway's side, or the landowner's side? 

Hopefully, there were no injuries in that incident. 


Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by bobm at 18:11, 29th September 2024
 

Currently with the line west of Exeter St D closed UFN the nearest railhead for Cornwall is OKEHAMPTON !



Despite a tree falling on that line at North Tawton and smashing a cab window.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Trowres at 18:01, 29th September 2024
 
NEWQUAY LINE CLOSED
FALMOUTH LINE CLOSED
due to flooding

Well that's certainly the impression given by GWR's Journeycheck information; however 2F88 has just departed Truro and is on its way down the Falmouth Branch. Cue excitement of watching to see if it makes it all the way! 


Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by plymothian at 17:52, 29th September 2024
 
NEWQUAY LINE CLOSED
FALMOUTH LINE CLOSED
due to flooding

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Timmer at 17:50, 29th September 2024
 
Well there hangs a tale.

Mark
Doesn’t it just! 

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Mark A at 17:43, 29th September 2024
 
Well there hangs a tale.

Mark

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by AMLAG at 17:37, 29th September 2024
 

Currently with the line west of Exeter St D closed UFN the nearest railhead for Cornwall is OKEHAMPTON !


Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by AMLAG at 17:33, 29th September 2024
 

Assuming that 1Z99 is an IET the odds are that it too will fail ..but I hope this proves wrong.

It’s noted that the local Exe/NA etc buses ARE running at Dwl .




Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by plymothian at 17:25, 29th September 2024
 
1Z99 has set off from Newton Abbot as a rescue train.
Place your bets now as to whether it'll fail too.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:14, 29th September 2024
 
Cancellations to services between Exeter St Davids and Penzance

Due to forecasted severe weather between Exeter St Davids and Penzance all lines are blocked.

Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Customer Advice
We are currently advising passengers NOT to travel between Exeter St Davids, Plymouth and Penzance, due to severe weather in the Dawlish area and across Cornwall. As a result, train services between these locations are currently suspended, and we have not been able to secure any replacement road transport. Based on the forecast, we anticipate significant disruption will continue for the remainder of the day.


You're on your own folks.........

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by plymothian at 17:06, 29th September 2024
 
1C82 and 2C77 have become stranded due to Hitachi's Dawlish-proof trains.

Code Black declared.
DO NOT TRAVEL WEST OF EXETER.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by AMLAG at 16:53, 29th September 2024
 

1235 Padd/ Pgn IET seems stuck between Dwl and Teignmouth since about 1530 ( salt water ingress ? ) hence the 1300 Cdff held at Dwl

Very very rough seas 40-50 mph SSE with high tide at 1800
Seems trains being held at St D, NA an£ Ply with a shuttle unit now operating NA/ Pgn bch

All the vast £ millions spent on the sea wall, rock shelter and cliff stabilisation works etc and yet the newest trains can’t cope with sea water.


Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Mark A at 16:28, 29th September 2024
 
Possibly not weather related, but it might have gone a bit pear-shaped at Dawlish, as a Cardiff-Penzance train is spending an unreasonable amount of time from Dawlish Warren and there might be about to be a queue of other trains waiting on its progress and held at Exeter.

Mark

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by grahame at 16:03, 29th September 2024
 
Torbay's not well provided with tidal gauges: however, this afternoon's tide at Plymouth is overachieving.

Mark

https://ntslf.org/tides/uk-network/realtime?port=Plymouth

I was at Sea Mills yesterday (oops) and I have never seen the tide so low - more like Mud Mills


Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Mark A at 15:49, 29th September 2024
 
Torbay's not well provided with tidal gauges: however, this afternoon's tide at Plymouth is overachieving.

Mark

https://ntslf.org/tides/uk-network/realtime?port=Plymouth

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by bobm at 14:18, 29th September 2024
 
So have Cross Country to and from stations Newton Abbot to Penzance inclusive.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Mark A at 14:16, 29th September 2024
 
I'm not sure when it was announced but GWR at least have sensibly eased ticket restrictions on this to allow people to travel early.

Mark

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by CyclingSid at 09:20, 29th September 2024
 
On the other hand I had a very nice cycle along the Thames from Staines into London. But all the small ferries; Shepperton, Sunbury etc were not operating.

Thames was high and flowing strongly but the sun shone.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:44, 29th September 2024
 
Cancellations to services between Exeter St Davids and Plymouth

Due to forecasted severe weather between Exeter St Davids and Plymouth fewer trains are able to run on all lines. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Train services between Exeter St Davids and Plymouth will be cancelled or delayed.
Customer Advice
-
We have been informed by the Met Office that severe weather is forecast in the Dawlish area on Sunday the 29th of September. The main weather front is expected to hit from 1500 until the end of the day. This is expected to bring heavy rain and strong winds. This means we are having to make some alterations to our train services.

Customers are advised to check their journeys before setting off to travel. We are advising customers to travel as early as possible on Sunday the 29th.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Mark A at 22:12, 28th September 2024
 
Ugh. In Torbay, sustained 16 metres per second gale from the south east, forecast to peak at the same time as the high tide at 6pm, though fortunately we are on neaps.

Mark

https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/hourly-table/2-2651474/United%20Kingdom/England/Devon/Dawlish?i=1

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by TaplowGreen at 19:03, 28th September 2024
 
Another one for tomorrow......could make the usual poor Sunday "service" even worse.....

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/urgent-weather-warning-devon-cornwall-9588682?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:42, 21st September 2024
 
Good luck with that one. 

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by JayMac at 09:21, 21st September 2024
 
Taunton, in particular, please note. 

That's where I'm headed today after enjoying a week of glorious weather in Scotland.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Surrey 455 at 22:53, 20th September 2024
 
Lovely sunny warm weather in Brighton today. Was hoping to start a tan ready for my trip to Crete tomorrow, though I think I may have overdone the SPF. 15 was probably too much but it's not that easy to find anything lower these days.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by johnneyw at 21:25, 20th September 2024
 
Sunny afternoon and evening in the South Hams but just a bit chillier than last night.

Re: Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by ChrisB at 21:00, 20th September 2024
 
Cheltenham & Ledbury are under water....

Bad weather warning, from the BBC, for this weekend
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:58, 20th September 2024
 
See https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/ce8dnznxyj8o

UK thunderstorm warnings: Heavy rain, lightning and hail mark end of warm spell

After the settled and warm spell of late summer weather many of us have had over the last week change is on the way.

The Met Office has issued yellow thunderstorm warnings for Friday and Saturday.

As well as the risk of lightning, some places in southern England and Wales could see as much as 50mm (2in) of rain, bringing the possibility of flooding and transport disruption.

This is in contrast to the past week with temperatures above average and for some in northern Scotland, the warmest spell so late in September since 2019.



Heavy showers and storms will start to develop on Friday, in central southern England, the Midlands, parts of Wales and especially south-west England.

Gusty winds and hail may accompany the downpours, with the possibility of local flash flooding.

Later in the day, the storms are expected to fade. However, another spell of storms is forecast to reach the south coast of England in the early hours of Saturday, with more downpours spreading across England and Wales throughout the day.

On both days, the thunderstorms will be hit or miss, meaning that some locations will escape them altogether. However, where they do occur, as much as 50mm (2in) of rain could fall.


Taunton, in particular, please note. 


 
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