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Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [374635/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 17:21, 30th April 2026
 
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06
 
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06 is being delayed at Melksham and is now expected to be 11 minutes late.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.

8 minutes late from Westbury ... 13 minutes late onward by Swindon

Fourteen treated after 'chemical smell' at Farringdon station - 30 April 2026
In "Transport for London" [374634/31960/46]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:09, 30th April 2026
 
From the BBC:

Fourteen treated after 'chemical smell' at Farringdon station


Emergency services were called to a suspected gas leak earlier after passengers reported feeling unwell - Image © Luke Wooding

Fourteen Elizabeth line passengers have received medical treatment – and two have been taken to hospital – after a "smell of chemicals" was reported on a platform at London's Farringdon station.

The station was evacuated and closed but reopened at 11:35 BST after London Fire Brigade (LFB) checked the area and found no elevated readings for any chemical substances.

The British Transport Police (BTP) initially said the closure was due to a "suspected gas leak".

Emergency services were called to the scene, including armed police officers.

The Elizabeth line is now running with severe delays, Transport for London said.

LFB said: "Crews attended and carried out a sweep of the area to check for no elevated readings of any chemical substances. No elevated readings were detected. Fourteen people were treated at the scene with two of those people taken to hospital by London Ambulance Service as a precaution."

Two fire engines, two fire rescue units and specialist officers were deployed and the scene was declared safe by 11:35, the brigade added.

BTP said it believed a "small number of people potentially came into contact with an unknown substance". It said armed police attended the scene as part of the response by the emergency services, which is "typical during a significant incident and should not cause undue concern to the public in this case".


Trainee driver crashes bus into River Seine - 30 April 2026
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [374633/31959/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:51, 30th April 2026
 
From the BBC:

Trainee driver crashes bus into River Seine


The local transport authority said drug and alcohol tests taken by the trainee had come back negative - Image © Reuters

A trainee drove a bus into the River Seine after hitting a parked car and veering off the road on Thursday morning, officials have said.

The local transport authority told the BBC the driver was nearing the end of her "practical learning" during the incident in Juvisy-sur-Orge, some 20km (12 miles) south of Paris.

Drug and alcohol tests have come back negative, a spokesperson said, and the cause of the incident is currently unknown.

L'Esson prefecture said all four passengers on board had been rescued from the water, where more than 90 firefighters, divers and police took part in a recovery operation.

A spokesperson for Île-de-France Mobilités said the driver was accompanied by a "lead driver" and two passengers. Its president has ordered an internal investigation into the incident, it added.

Local politician Claire Lejeune wrote on X that the bus fell into the Seine "with four people on board, including a trainee driver" and thanked emergency services for their response.


The French river brigade was among the agencies to respond to the incident - Image © Reuters

Juvisy-sur-Orge Mayor Lamia Bensara Reda said the driver had "lost control" of the vehicle near a station close to the riverbank, "before plunging into the Seine and dragging a parked car" with it. "Everyone was quickly rescued and, thankfully, is safe and sound," she added in a post on Facebook.

L'Esson prefecture said the number of casualties was still being finalised.


The bus could still be seen in the river as of 11:00 local time, AFP reported - Image © Reuters

An eyewitness told French news agency AFP the bus missed a right turn near the river and instead "went straight on and dragged a car down with it".

Bystanders rushed to the scene and life rings were thrown out before emergency services arrived, 55-year-old Elisabeth said.

Another witness, 19-year-old Amine, said it felt as though "every firefighter in the department was there".

AFP reported that several rescue boats, a drone and helicopters were deployed as part of the recovery effort.

The local government shared a video at around 14:00 of the bus being pulled out of the river, and said the car had also been been retrieved.


Woman and child in near miss at level crossing - Tutbury and Hatton, 25 Apr 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [374632/31958/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:38, 30th April 2026
 
A video news item, dated today, from the BBC:

Woman and child in near miss at level crossing

Network Rail has issued a safety plea after a woman and young child were filmed ducking under a level crossing as the barriers were closing in Derbyshire.

The footage, shared on social media, shows the pair dashing across railway tracks as the warning lights flash and the barriers begin to lower at Tutbury and Hatton Station, on the Derbyshire-Staffordshire border at 15:22 on Saturday.

Brandon Roberts, who filmed the video whilst trainspotting, said he was in "disbelief" at what he saw.

A spokesperson for Network Rail said: "This kind of behaviour is deeply concerning and could have had tragic consequences."

They added: "Level crossing barriers and warning lights are there for good reason. Ignoring them not only endangers those taking this action, but also puts train passengers, railway staff and other members of the public at risk too. One poor decision can change lives forever."


This is a video news item, so you will need to click on the link to the BBC to view it.

Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [374631/1219/28]
Posted by grahame at 16:34, 30th April 2026
 
Depends on the day. Once MK-OXF EWR is open, then it'd simply be two changes, from May 18th.

MKC - OXF
OXF - BRI
BRI - EXD

If theyu went today -

MKC - EUS
PAD - EXD

Have I missed an opening date to passenger traffic?  Has the concern about the safety of operating trains that's been holding it up been resolved?  Is this May 18th 2026, or a May 18th in some future year once the concerns have been addressed to everyone's satisfaction?

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [374630/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 16:18, 30th April 2026
 
17:05 Didcot Parkway to Evesham due 18:24 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on a train earlier.

18:51 Evesham to Oxford due 19:50 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on a train earlier.

Re: Oxford to Didcot quad tracking
In "Railway History and related topics" [374629/31957/55]
Posted by Mark A at 16:10, 30th April 2026
 
Thanks for this.

Mark

Re: Oxford to Didcot quad tracking
In "Railway History and related topics" [374628/31957/55]
Posted by stuving at 15:26, 30th April 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
It was suggested in the Westminster Gazette of 12 April 1910 that the construction of the Ashendon to Aynho line, together with the Great Central and Great Western Joint Line, gave GWR the same extra capacity as quadrupling through Oxford almost to Banbury. Thus it is unlikely they would do it later than that, or before they had done the main line into Didcot (1892). By then the possibility of the GW/GCR route was presumably already known about, so the window for ever quadrupling Didcot-Oxford narrows to little or nothing.

Re: Paddington <-> Bristol: service updates and amendments - ongoing discussion
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [374627/18525/10]
Posted by JohnM at 15:18, 30th April 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Disruption has been reported between Bristol Temple Meads and Chippenham.

Train services may be delayed after leaving due to a speed restriction because of high track temperatures.
I haven't even got my shorts out yet

Oxford to Didcot quad tracking
In "Railway History and related topics" [374626/31957/55]
Posted by Mark A at 12:49, 30th April 2026
 
Did GWR ever form the intention to quadruple track Oxford to Didcot? I'm thinking of the way that line increasingly sat at the centre of a set of converging lines - at first, to the south, from two directions on the GW main line itself - and the Didcot Newbury and Southampton line then came onto the scene - and then to the north, the lines to Rugby Birmingham and then to Worcester and to Wolverhampton - and later to Fairford, and also the Banbury to Woodford Halse link. This collection joined by a double track railway.

Perhaps the relief of this stretch by the building of the 1910 line via Bicester took the focus elsewhere from any ambition to quadruple the track south to Didcot.

Was there an intention though? Plans, or perhaps an early intention to route the Great Western Main Line itself via Oxford?

Turning to the present day: the relieving line via Thame long closed, a busier network ... and there's Oxford, still connected to Didcot by a double track railway with three 'Inconvenient' intermediate stations, no offence intended. There must be a ghost of the 'If only' here, and also, how those stations avoided being zapped I don't know.

Mark


Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [374625/1219/28]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:25, 30th April 2026
 
Depends on the day. Once MK-OXF EWR is open, then it'd simply be two changes, from May 18th.

MKC - OXF
OXF - BRI
BRI - EXD

If theyu went today -

MKC - EUS
PAD - EXD

Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [374624/1219/28]
Posted by Mark A at 12:21, 30th April 2026
 
A friend from Milton Keynes has just mentioned that they'll be heading for Exeter by train, which put me in mind of East - West Rail, but in it's impending form would this involve Milton Keynes to Bletchley (change trains) to Oxford (change trains) to Didcot (change trains) to Swindon (change trains) to Bristol (change trains) and finally Exeter? If so, ouch.

Mark

Re: Thomas the Tank Engine and Rev Wilbert Awdry - ongoing discussion
In "The Lighter Side" [374623/16895/30]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:57, 30th April 2026
 
Ad today as tickets to the Hammersmith Apollo on sale tomorrow.
Refers to Christopher as 'author'

Re: Mousehole, Cornwall: a bus route change (for the worse)
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [374622/31600/5]
Posted by Mark A at 11:55, 30th April 2026
 
Think the boat's the Mount's Bay nautical equivalent of an Optare bus. Glad you've mentioned ferries, as there would surely have been a bit of too-ing and fro-ing between Mousehole, Newlyn and Penzance. All horribly weather dependent though.

Mark

Re: Storing petrol
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [374621/22213/51]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 11:19, 30th April 2026
 
The crude oil price has now reached $125 ! No significant shortages as yet.
If this carries on, I perceive some risk of shortages, of transport fuel and also of natural gas.

I notice that BP have made bumper profits ... have to wonder where the extra income goes.


A barrel of oil is 159 litres. So at £1.85 / litre (diesel at the place up the road) you are looking at £294 ( = almost $400) per barrel - that's 3.5 times price at the pump that it costs on the world market.    Put the other way round, the world price is still only 50p per litre, marked up in Melksham to £1.85 ...

Your numbers omit the massive amount of tax on a litre of petrol or diesel.  With duty, VAT on the fuel, and VAT on the duty, the pump price to the motorist is 50% tax for diesel and just over 40% for petrol, according to figures I just checked on the RAC website

And even at these sky high fuel and tax prices, rail travel can still often look expensive and probably not taking you to exactly where you want to be

Re: Mousehole, Cornwall: a bus route change (for the worse)
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [374620/31600/5]
Posted by chuffed at 10:23, 30th April 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Is that the fairy with the ferry in the second Foto. ??

Re: Storing petrol
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [374619/22213/51]
Posted by Mark A at 10:03, 30th April 2026
 
Thread from @bartgonnissen.bsky.social in which he talks through fuel for ships and current issues.

https://bsky.app/profile/bartgonnissen.bsky.social/post/3mkp7aqdfpt2q

It links his other thread which is cat photo heavy, but not for a good reason, as he's flagging the issue of "Cat fines" which hopefully do not come the way of retail diesel supplies.

https://bsky.app/profile/bartgonnissen.bsky.social/post/3m6orddzjrc2a

Mark

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [374618/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 09:58, 30th April 2026
 
The first off-peak up service of the day - the 08:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington - has been short-formed a few times over the last few weeks. Today JourneyCheck is reporting:

Facilities on the 08:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:26.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. Service full and standing from Oxford. First class is declassified. There are no reservations on this service.

Earlier the busy 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington train was another short-form. The 11:52 Paddington to Hereford service and return run are also planned to be short-forms, as is the 18:57 Paddington to Great Malvern train.

The 14:53 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street and the return run can be added to the list of today's short-forms.

Re: Storing petrol
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [374617/22213/51]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 09:50, 30th April 2026
Already liked by grahame
 
Missing off Graham's diagram is tax.  I suspect HMG is quietly making a killing at the pump, as well as the corporation and windfall taxes on BP et al.

Re: Storing petrol
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [374616/22213/51]
Posted by Mark A at 09:45, 30th April 2026
Already liked by PrestburyRoad
 
Still finding this price comparison map site useful. Diesel vs petrol has opened up quite a gap, I'm led to believe that this is because electric vehicles has softened the demand for petrol.

Mark

https://fuelmap.co.uk/

Re: Mousehole, Cornwall: a bus route change (for the worse)
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [374615/31600/5]
Posted by GBM at 09:25, 30th April 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
'… and seeing how the residents feel after a while”

I can save RF some time there. They'll continue to be reduced or ex-users of the bus services and will have poorer life opportunities as a result. Some may become 'Disgruntled voters'. Good that the MD of Go-Ahead has met with residents and is moved to investigate suitable vehicles for the route. I hope he comes up with something. Difficult to imagine that they wouldn't be useful elsewhere too - nearest to Mousehole I'm thinking of the 16 Penzance to St Ives via... lanes... that used to use an Optare** too.

Mark

** Apologies if it wasn't and I'm simply calling all small buses 'Optares'...


Yes, Optare's, and similar (Darts, etc).
Bigger Optare than that used in Mousehole mind.  More tail swing/overhang in the bigger Optares.

Re: Storing petrol
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [374614/22213/51]
Posted by grahame at 09:11, 30th April 2026
 
The crude oil price has now reached $125 ! No significant shortages as yet.
If this carries on, I perceive some risk of shortages, of transport fuel and also of natural gas.

I notice that BP have made bumper profits ... have to wonder where the extra income goes.



A barrel of oil is 159 litres. So at £1.85 / litre (diesel at the place up the road) you are looking at £294 ( = almost $400) per barrel - that's 3.5 times price at the pump that it costs on the world market.    Put the other way round, the world price is still only 50p per litre, marked up in Melksham to £1.85 ...

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [374613/10737/21]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 07:39, 30th April 2026
 
The low spring sunshine should light that up nicely,say early May ?..

Re: Storing petrol
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [374612/22213/51]
Posted by broadgage at 05:30, 30th April 2026
 
The crude oil price has now reached $125 ! No significant shortages as yet.
If this carries on, I perceive some risk of shortages, of transport fuel and also of natural gas.

Re: Your pint could come with a surprising health benefit ...
In "The Lighter Side" [374611/31925/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 02:32, 30th April 2026
Already liked by broadgage
 
7 pints per day will provide all the B6 needed.  This is excellent news

Don't tell broadgage.

Re: Thomas the Tank Engine and Rev Wilbert Awdry - ongoing discussion
In "The Lighter Side" [374610/16895/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:53, 30th April 2026
 
Please do post an update here in June! 

Re: 'Battery Bill': UK's first electric quarry loco named by pupil
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [374609/31953/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:52, 29th April 2026
 
Hmm. 

While I obviously commend Cillian Gallagher on his success, I'm not sure this isn't taking things a bit too far:

From the BBC:

Minimum age to be a train driver lowered to 18

Eighteen-year-olds will be allowed to drive trains after the minimum age was lowered from 20 in a bid to tackle driver shortages.

(BBC article continues)




He's a five-year-old! 

Re: 'Battery Bill': UK's first electric quarry loco named by pupil
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [374607/31953/51]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 22:23, 29th April 2026
 
Glad to see that the original spoon and notch handles have been retained. Always nice to make an 08 go and stop. At least the start-up faff is now obviated. I wonder if the loco still has old corks capping the coupling-rod oil reservoirs and a large BSW? spanner to undo the underside nut to let the rainwater out of the same?

08s are still steam engines below the waist 

Re: Why some trains will not be stopping at Banbury
In "Cross Country services" [374606/31951/43]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 22:12, 29th April 2026
Already liked by 1st fan, GBM
 
Can it be anything to do with Banbury being a ticket split station with enormous price differentials? Pity if your train didn't stop, Sir...

 
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