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Re: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376256/31355/51]
Posted by JohnM at 11:27, 22nd June 2026
 
We've now been upgraded to Met Office red warnings for Wednesday(40)/Thursday(39) in Melksham.

Re: Chippenham Railway Station and cycle parking
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [376255/32157/50]
Posted by Mark A at 11:24, 22nd June 2026
 
Doesn't add much - but this was the facility on the day of the official opening in February.
***snip***

Thanks for the image, it's useful.

Mark

Re: Chippenham Railway Station and cycle parking
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [376254/32157/50]
Posted by Mark A at 11:22, 22nd June 2026
 
An easy win would be to close Monkton Hill to other vehicles, then, sign and reconfigure it, giving it segregated routes for people on cycles and on foot. Meeting people who didn't know the town the other month, it's not even signed as a route from the station (possibly because the current mix of traffic it carries is rather unhealthy).

Also, in combination with the above, at the right time of day, the riverside path makes a somewhat good walking route to the town centre. (Neither totally ok for people using wheelchairs as the gradients aren't quite in favour, so possibly better on the bus (of which there are more).) https://maps.app.goo.gl/BwmjbtXVJRPFPUdY6

Mark


Re: Looking forward on the line through Melksham - some updates and thoughts
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376253/32152/18]
Posted by grahame at 11:14, 22nd June 2026
 
Is Melksham Station actually in the right position for the town and a potential for integrated transport, buses etc.? A better possible location is south of the current site between Asda and Pets' Corner replacing the shopping block that parallels the railway. There the platforms could be lengthened to accommodate all trains - nay, even doubled !

That idea was laughed "out of court" when I suggested it prior to the existing platform being lengthened.  "Too late" apparently - Melksham Station stays where it is.

Coming back to qualify that answer ... at the time, the decision was made that was short-to-medium term to make use of the platform extension opportunity where it was, and it didn't take the medium-to-long term view of where on the railway and with the surrounds the best place would be.   "Behind Asda" would be - IMHO - superbly better and much more intergated - but radical.  I conceeded my view; at the time I was a junior member of TransWilts and went along with the collective responsibility.  And it got us the longer platform - not to be sneezed at - rather than taking the significant risk of going for a solution that could still look good in 2040.

Under the Neighbourhood Plan, the station is key for the town but remains where it is.  Still not perfect, but we can make the best of an acceptable job and in time the various issues - or most of them - can and will be addressed.

Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376252/32151/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:03, 22nd June 2026
 
From the BBC:

Hero ticket inspector hurt in crash helped others

A ticket inspector who helped injured passengers, despite being hurt himself, after a fatal crash between two trains near Bedford has been described as a hero.
...

Praising the inspector's actions, Mareks Grabovskis told the BBC: "I could see he was in pain himself, but he was telling someone on the radio to close the lines, and checking if everyone else was OK."

(BBC article continues)


Re: Chippenham Railway Station and cycle parking
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [376251/32157/50]
Posted by grahame at 11:01, 22nd June 2026
 
I'm eating worms as I've no photo of it yet - outside the station, a capacious glass box with two level cycle parking, about 98% empty - but then this *was* a Sunday of a bank holiday. Is it well used at other times? And the racks look to be rather prescriptive as to the sort of cycles they'll accommodate, but perhaps they're ok for the likes of 20" by 2.15" wheel shopper bikes, or children's bikes etc.

Mark

Cycling to and from Chippenham Station hasn't been pleasant the times I've done it - maybe the routes have been improved since, and maybe I haven't discovered major provision made ... but this sort of thing doesn't exactly encourage cycling here

My picture of the town centre:


And the roads down to it (from Google):




No matter how excellent the provision is at a station, people need to feel safe and confident enough to actually get to the station.  Perhaps the station improvements are just a first step in making this a station  and town that's easily cyclable?  Got to start somewhere and facilities will come into their own once the whoe place works for bicycles - as I'm seeing so much in some countries on my travels.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376250/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 10:52, 22nd June 2026
 
Another decent week last week for Melksham, with one cancellation each way on the Saturday and Sunday giving a 96.6% reliability score from the Monday to Sunday.

96.6% ran again last week.

I'm sure this week will be much more challenging.

Agree that figure though with at least two trains flagged up on journey planner / check stuff as cancelled which then actually ran, the customer view figure might be just under 95%.   This week WILL be more challenging - started with 2 cancellations due to "shortage of train crew" and with weather issues anticipated ...

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376249/31359/18]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:45, 22nd June 2026
 
Another decent week last week for Melksham, with one cancellation each way on the Saturday and Sunday giving a 96.6% reliability score from the Monday to Sunday.

96.6% ran again last week.

I'm sure this week will be much more challenging.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [376248/31163/26]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:32, 22nd June 2026
 
Looks like all Paddington to Didcot services have been proactively cancelled today.

Yes, KRS (Key Route Strategy) measures will be in place all week to try and minimise the risk of S&C failures.

Re: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376247/31355/51]
Posted by stuving at 10:27, 22nd June 2026
Already liked by IndustryInsider, Mark A
 
I too have been very glad of air conditioning, only a portable unit but it helps a lot.

As regards trains, I believe that all new trains should be designed for normal operation at an outside air temperature of 40 degrees, and should cope with 45 degrees (at a reduced performance, and with a slight increase in internal temperatures)

This is considerably in excess of Met office records, but a plausible temperature that could be reached in direct sun, in a chalk cutting, and with another train alongside producing heat.

BS EN 13129-1 "‘Railway applications - Air conditioning for main line rolling stock – Comfort parameters" has got there before you. So has BS EN 50125-1 "Railway applications. Environmental conditions for equipment - Rolling stock and on-board equipment". Both specify assumed exterior conditions which, for the mildest European zone, go up to 40°.

Both have been revised since the versions I have found some information about, and as usual the actual texts are not available. But I imagine that if the top temperature has changed it can only have gone up a bit.

I was struck by this scoping comment of BSI's: "Note 1: BS EN 50125-1 does not apply to cranes, mining vehicles, cable cars. It also does not apply to natural disasters. " Obviously that's what is wrong with all these natural disasters we keep getting - they are not being specified in standards!

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [376246/31163/26]
Posted by NickB at 10:26, 22nd June 2026
 
Looks like all Paddington to Didcot services have been proactively cancelled today.

Re: Chippenham Railway Station and cycle parking
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [376245/32157/50]
Posted by bobm at 10:13, 22nd June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Doesn't add much - but this was the facility on the day of the official opening in February.


Re: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376244/31355/51]
Posted by broadgage at 09:55, 22nd June 2026
 
Blinds closed to keep sun out
Windows closed to keep heat out

Air Conditioning running in lounge and bedrooms, 21c in both, good investment 4 years ago


Dealing with heat is more a question of how much want to invest to continue reasonably normally in modern climate, than a question is it technically possible to do so.    There are special labs for climate testing, and I believe there is one in Vienna for trains, can be tested from -50c to +60c far beyond temperature range needed in UK.

I too have been very glad of air conditioning, only a portable unit but it helps a lot.

As regards trains, I believe that all new trains should be designed for normal operation at an outside air temperature of 40 degrees, and should cope with 45 degrees (at a reduced performance, and with a slight increase in internal temperatures)

This is considerably in excess of Met office records, but a plausible temperature that could be reached in direct sun, in a chalk cutting, and with another train alongside producing heat.

Re: disruption Reading to London
In "London to Reading" [376243/26735/7]
Posted by John D at 09:51, 22nd June 2026
 
Great Western Railway (GWR) is warning customers in the Thames Valley to plan for changes to train services during the hottest parts of the day on Monday and Tuesday, as track temperatures are forecast to reach levels requiring speed restrictions.

The changes will mostly impact local stopping services between Reading and London Paddington, with changes to trains serving Slough, Maidenhead and Twyford.

And unhelpfully for those planning a journey
Due to the short-notice changes, industry information systems will not show the correct train timetable until the day of travel.

https://railuk.com/travel/gwr-to-run-amended-service-during-extreme-heat-on-monday-and-tuesday/

Strangely although very hot weather is expected Mon-Thur, only expecting disruption Mon-Tue, which suggests if they can manage We'd-Thur why didn't they start their planning 2 days earlier, as this hot weather has been forecast for over a week.


Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [376242/32149/40]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:48, 22nd June 2026
 
Will the arrival into Parliament of Andy Burnham - who's done so much to flagship changes and developments of public transport in the Manchester area, and who's a Labour heavyweight make any difference indirectly to the government's direction and approaches to public transport - trains, buses, etc, in the south / west of England and South Wales?..... 

No.

Looks like we're going to find out quite soon!

Re: Weston-super-Mare - Birnbeck Pier restoration: ongoing developments and discussion
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [376241/16547/31]
Posted by broadgage at 09:34, 22nd June 2026
 
Pier now re connected to the main land, BBC report.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cvgl9yepjxvo

Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [376240/32149/40]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:46, 22nd June 2026
 
Will the arrival into Parliament of Andy Burnham - who's done so much to flagship changes and developments of public transport in the Manchester area, and who's a Labour heavyweight make any difference indirectly to the government's direction and approaches to public transport - trains, buses, etc, in the south / west of England and South Wales?..... 

No.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376239/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:38, 22nd June 2026
 

There ARE additional trains Westbury to Southampton and Swindon to Worcester.  What is lacking is any service a t all, or any customer advice for passengers travelling between Swindon and Westbury.   It may be "just one round trip", but it's all we have got - or to be accurate NOT got.

Somewhat ironically.......

07:54 Swindon to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47

Additional 07:54 Swindon to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47 will be cancelled.

This is due to train crew being delayed.

Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [376238/32149/40]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:12, 22nd June 2026
 
Someone seems to be looking forward to a new regime.......one would have thought however that the more honourable course of action for her to take if she's lost faith in the Leader who appointed her would be to resign herself, as others have?

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/26212426.swindons-heidi-alexander-first-tell-starmer-go/

Surely its better to have some continuity in government departments during a leadership contest, rather than the modern tory way of mass resignations forcing out a stubborn incumbent. Although that might change if Sir Keir fights on. Which is looking unlikely judging by the 'off the record' statements filltering through media politcal correspondents.

The new leader can then decide on their top team.

I'm sure the Civil Service with help from Ministers of State can cope for a couple of weeks - although perhaps I am being naive in suggesting that modern politicians understand the concept of acting honourably.

Incidentally the "modern tory way" much criticised by Labour, was having "coronations" of new PMs without seeking legitimacy via a General Election.................that (very recent) position/criticism seems to have been conveniently forgotten this time around! 

Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376237/32151/51]
Posted by Mark A at 07:58, 22nd June 2026
 
The Elstow freight facility being on the doorstep perhaps might have been useful but reaching it would have involved laying c19th-style contractors temporary track.

Mark

Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376236/32151/51]
Posted by Electric train at 06:52, 22nd June 2026
 
Most of these two trains are on the rail. Can someone in, or familiar with, the current rail industry explain why these damaged units cannot be recovered by rail.

A heavy object travelling at speed hits an almost immovable object, the amount of damage to certainly the 2 vehicles at the point of impact would result is distortion to the vehicle body.  The vehicles are designed to absorb such an impact by crumpling. 
Basically these 2 vehicles probably cannot safely, practically and quickly be moved by rail.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376235/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 06:26, 22nd June 2026
 
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:10

05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:10 was terminated at Swindon.
It will no longer call at Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Dilton Marsh, Warminster, Salisbury, Romsey and Southampton Central.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47

06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47 will be terminated at Westbury.
It will no longer call at Trowbridge, Melksham, Chippenham, Swindon, Kemble, Stroud, Stonehouse, Gloucester, Cheltenham Spa, Ashchurch For Tewkesbury, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

There ARE additional trains Westbury to Southampton and Swindon to Worcester.  What is lacking is any service a t all, or any customer advice for passengers travelling between Swindon and Westbury.   It may be "just one round trip", but it's all we have got - or to be accurate NOT got.

OTD - 22nd June 1978 - Chippenham Station Building listed
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [376234/32159/10]
Posted by grahame at 06:19, 22nd June 2026
 
The Station Buildings at Chippenham are "listed" and came up "On this day" for me - 22nd June - for the listing was added on 22nd June 1978.

"CHIPPENHAM STATION, ENTRANCE BUILDING AND ATTACHED PLATFORM CANOPIES"
BUILDING AND ATTACHED PLATFORM CANOPIES
Heritage Category: Listed Building
Grade: II
List Entry Number: 1268119

ST9273NW COCKLEBURY ROAD 930-1/7/20 Chippenham Station, entrance 22/06/78 building and attached platform canopies (Formerly Listed as: COCKLEBURY ROAD Main entrance building, platform canopies on down platform, Chippenham Station)

II

Station building. 1856-8, for the Great Western Railway. By Rowland Brotherhood, engineer. Limestone ashlar with a plinth and eaves band; shallow-pitched hipped slate roof and moulded stack to the right. 2 blocks, both rectangular plan. EXTERIOR: single storey. Raised surrounds and bracketed sills to casement windows. The centre of the right-hand block is stepped forward; C20 double doors with overlights to each end and 2 windows to the centre, all under a flat-roofed wooden canopy with a fretted fascia and 5 substantial moulded wooden brackets. The open space between the blocks is covered by a hipped roof and a deep fretted fascia over tall spear-headed cast-iron railings, double gates and cast-iron piers with ball finials. C20 platform canopy to the rear. INTERIOR: altered.

also listed:
"K6 TELEPHONE KIOSK ADJACENT TO CHIPPENHAM RAILWAY STATION"
"CHIPPENHAM STATION, FORMER BRITISH RAIL OFFICE IN THE CAR PARK"
"MORTIMORES WEIGHBRIDGE OFFICE, CHIPPENHAM STATION YARD"

Re: Where am I this morning? 20th June 2026
In "The Lighter Side" [376233/32153/30]
Posted by grahame at 22:56, 21st June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Best of luck with this Heatwave.....

Thank you, Chris.  I have just boarded the midnight ferry.  Some of the time was spend today on an out-and-back to Oristano in the knowledge the train would have a/c.   Oristano was hot and largely closed because it was Sunday.

Re: How would YOU solve CrossCountry ?
In "Across the West" [376232/32138/26]
Posted by grahame at 22:53, 21st June 2026
 
That's simply because (with the exception of the Stanstead line, added later) it reflects where the available lines for express routes avoiding London are, namely Bristol or Cardiff to Basingstoke, Basingstoke to Reading, Oxford to Birmingham, Birmingham to Derby and Sheffield to Leeds or York.

If we'd had East/West via an Oxford-Cambridge link we might have had (and might still get) direct links between the South West and East Anglia.

You may also call the Swansea -> Portsmouth and Brighton service (as it was) Cross County, and Liverpool - Newcastle ... under GBR there is some logic to move things between logical divisions for today rather than for the last 30 years.  Might add the Marches line too.

Re: How would YOU solve CrossCountry ?
In "Across the West" [376231/32138/26]
Posted by eightonedee at 22:38, 21st June 2026
Already liked by trainbuff
 
Cross country serves a weird shaped network,
apologies for the map with graphics, but it's only one on their site that is roughly to scale rather than diagram form.

https://www.crosscountrytrains.co.uk/sites/default/files/basic_page_docs/12058264_illustrated_route_map_q4_2023_a4_-1.pdf

Now if compare that to UK population hubs then it's obvious that cross country network serves something operationally convenient rather than geographically sensible.

and

You can't get a Cross Country train from Plymouth to Essex and East Anglia


That's simply because (with the exception of the Stanstead line, added later) it reflects where the available lines for express routes avoiding London are, namely Bristol or Cardiff to Basingstoke, Basingstoke to Reading, Oxford to Birmingham, Birmingham to Derby and Sheffield to Leeds or York.

If we'd had East/West via an Oxford-Cambridge link we might have had (and might still get) direct links between the South West and East Anglia.

Cross Country is far more than an enhanced Birmingham suburban service. Choosing to go via London is at least a matter of choice (I've been grateful to avoid a TfL cross-London transfer on more than one occasion), and one of the things that has become clear to me, both from being a member of this forum and speaking to friends who do not use the railways as much as I do, is that changing trains is something many don't like doing or acts as a disincentive to using the train. And, having worked much of my career in Reading and Guildford, I've had a number of colleagues delighted to find that they can get to meetings in Manchester or Birmingham without the hassle of travelling across London.

I would mostly use the car for travel to Cambridge, Essex or East Anglia, but part of that was quite a bit of what I did involved clients based out of town centres or attending site visits in rural or suburban locations. But outside East Anglia, their network provides a number of links between the main commercial service centres which avoid London. There's also no shortage of either students or tourists on their trains. It ain't broke, but could do with another shot of investment like it got just after the turn of the century, when in consequence the Reading-Birmingham corridor was reported to have had the greatest increase in traffic of any UK rail route.   

Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376230/32151/51]
Posted by JayMac at 22:35, 21st June 2026
 
Speculation, but maybe the damage is such that a drag of the rail vehicles isn't possible.

Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376229/32151/51]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 22:29, 21st June 2026
 
Most of these two trains are on the rail. Can someone in, or familiar with, the current rail industry explain why these damaged units cannot be recovered by rail.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376228/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 22:12, 21st June 2026
 
21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16

21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16 has been delayed at Swindon and is now 15 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.

Re: Andy Burnham elected to parliament, with a strong transport reputation
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [376227/32149/40]
Posted by JayMac at 21:46, 21st June 2026
 
Someone seems to be looking forward to a new regime.......one would have thought however that the more honourable course of action for her to take if she's lost faith in the Leader who appointed her would be to resign herself, as others have?

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/26212426.swindons-heidi-alexander-first-tell-starmer-go/

Surely its better to have some continuity in government departments during a leadership contest, rather than the modern tory way of mass resignations forcing out a stubborn incumbent. Although that might change if Sir Keir fights on. Which is looking unlikely judging by the 'off the record' statements filltering through media politcal correspondents.

The new leader can then decide on their top team.

 
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