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Re: Severn Valley Railway - heritage line, Worcestershire and Shropshire - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [366104/6572/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:13, 26th September 2025
 
Here's some footage, for 'broadgage' and 'ChrisB' in particular: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHpUF-yeGok 

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366103/30804/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:46, 26th September 2025
 
I don’t believe turbos are allowed to cross the Tamar.

Ah, but in the past, 20,000 Cornish men crossed the Tamar, land to land ... see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ere9fNgSGe8 

Re: Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents and events - merged posts
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [366102/593/9]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:46, 26th September 2025
 
I merely quote the BBC, ChrisB - and, as we know, they are 'up to the minute' in terms of news. 


Re: Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents and events - merged posts
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [366101/593/9]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:43, 26th September 2025
 
That is a very old photo - the footway access runs from the left hand side now

Re: Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents and events - merged posts
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [366100/593/9]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:40, 26th September 2025
 
From the BBC:

'Intolerable' construction noise caused by overnight rail works at Botley Road, Oxford



People living near a railway station say they are being kept awake by noisy overnight works.

Botley Road in Oxford has been closed since April 2023 as part of a £161m scheme to upgrade Oxford railway station and is expected to reopen in August 2026.

Network Rail said the recent noise was partly caused by the removal of an obstruction so it could build the foundations for a new bridge and keep the project on track.

Councillor Lois Muddiman said local residents were finding the noise pollution "intolerable".

Botley Road was closed as part of Network Rail's project to expand the station and improve connectivity.

When the rail operator first outlined its plans it was expected to be shut over two six-month periods, with a six-month break in-between. But in September 2023 it announced there would be no break because works ran behind schedule. Then, last July, it said it would not reopen in October as planned.

Resident Catherine Byrne told the BBC: "I've sat on Sunday with a cup of tea in front of me and watched the liquid shaking. It's truly awful and it's worrying. We have no idea what this kind of work is doing to our houses. I am definitely, as soon as this work is finished, going to get a structural engineer round to have a look at my house."  She said she felt "absolutely furious and completely helpless".

"We complain, we argue, we get furious, we fire off emails, we complain at meetings, and nothing ever changes," she added.

The Green Party's Muddiman, representing Osney & St Thomas, said: "Anyone around the Mill Street area or the Abbey and Cripley Road area who are right up against it, the noise is just intolerable. So I've had many, many messages yesterday from residents who are just struggling to deal with it and not able to go out into their gardens because it's so loud."

Network Rail apologised for the disruption but said the work had to take place when trains were not running. It described the obstruction as a large 4m-deep (13.1ft) brick structure which was not mentioned in its records and ground surveys.

It had to be removed "as quickly as possible" so scheduled work to install new foundations into the ground could continue, it said. More of this so-called "piling work" is scheduled over the next two weekends, from 23:05 on Saturdays until 04:40 on Mondays.

Oxford City Council confirmed it had received a number of complaints from residents and that it had "requested further information on the level of noise and vibration monitored" from the work. It described it as "complex engineering" which could "only be carried out during shut-down periods agreed by Network Rail - not the council - due to the impact on national rail infrastructure".


Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366099/30804/30]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 19:40, 26th September 2025
 
I was at number 1 last week. Not the Southwest in my opinion, but isn’t the freedom of the SW ticket valid there?

I was going the long way around sampling some different cheap options

It *is* on that ticket, but then so is Cardiff!

The final two have been identified - Keynsham and Marsh Barton.   I would agree that 5 does look somewhat like Liskeard  and I did a double take to check that.  Confirmed Keynsham and as a double check I have not heard of any turbos straying into Cornwall.

I don’t believe turbos are allowed to cross the Tamar.

Re: Electric 'flying taxis', trialled in Bristol, to be built at Cotswold Airport
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [366098/24646/31]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 19:02, 26th September 2025
 
I can't help but think that the payload,will more than likely be other than Passengers if this gets of the ground,

Re: Petition to halve speed limit
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [366097/30807/5]
Posted by eightonedee at 18:58, 26th September 2025
 
And it should not!

What many overlook is that our roads are transport infrastructure, and our economy and society depend on people, businesses and services being able to get around the country efficiently.

If speeds are reduced in this way, rural businesses will find that deliveries of supplies and of goods and services will take longer, meaning that they will have to employ more drivers and use larger fleets of vehicles thereby increasing their costs, which have to be passed on to customers by way of higher prices, and if this cannot be done, the businesses will fail. Don’t forget that 55-60% of our food is domestically produced, so even if you live in a town or suburb and shop at your local supermarket it will affect you. The cost of essential services, such as social services, health and veterinary care will similarly have to increase as the number of home visits decreases because fewer can be undertaken as doctors, social and care workers and vets and those delivering supplies to them spend longer travelling rather than actually delivering their services. It will take longer for children to get to and from school, whether by bus or car.

Of course, we need to have safe roads, and properly thought-out speed limits are essential for this. But it is a damning indictment of our society, media and education system that on the 200th anniversary of the first public railway service, which helped bring about a revolution in the increase in speed and volume of people and goods being moved and reduction in cost per mile, that no-one mentions the essential function of our transport infrastructure in our modern society. Road transport is its lifeblood, and there are vast areas of the country and transport requirement where there is no practical alternative to road transport. Much as I believe in getting as many passengers and as much freight on trains as possible, anything that impedes road transport unnecessarily will cost us all.


Re: Bristol First Bus drivers strike action - 16 to 19 Sep and 1 to 14 Oct 2025
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [366096/30551/21]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:39, 26th September 2025
 
An update, from the BBC:

Bus driver strikes at start of October suspended

Planned strike action which was to affect bus users from 1-5 October has been suspended.

Members of the Unite union who work as drivers for First Bus in Bristol had planned to walk out from 1 to 14 October in an ongoing row about pay. But after negotiation through Acas, the industrial action has been suspended.

Any strike action after this date is subject to a ballot being voted on, after a revised pay offer from First Bus. Results are due next week.

Managing Director of First West of England, Doug Claringbold said: "We welcome today's announcement from Unite the Union that planned strike action in Bristol has been suspended while union members are balloted on our offer. We recognise the frustration and inconvenience that strikes cause our customers and we want to avoid further action. We continue to urge the union to work with us to deliver a resolution acceptable to all parties."

The strikes in September saw 600 drivers walk out for four days. Negotiations have been going on for six months.

Unite said its members were spending half of their wages on rent and had not been able to save money at the same time First had made an operating profit of £204.3m.

"First Bus is a very profitable firm, but its hard-working workers are struggling to pay the bills," said Unite general secretary Sharon Graham.


Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366095/30804/30]
Posted by grahame at 18:22, 26th September 2025
 
I was at number 1 last week. Not the Southwest in my opinion, but isn’t the freedom of the SW ticket valid there?

I was going the long way around sampling some different cheap options

It *is* on that ticket, but then so is Cardiff!

The final two have been identified - Keynsham and Marsh Barton.   I would agree that 5 does look somewhat like Liskeard  and I did a double take to check that.  Confirmed Keynsham and as a double check I have not heard of any turbos straying into Cornwall.

Re: East Midlands Railways - Class 810 Aurora fleet entering service (merged posts)
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [366094/24525/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:17, 26th September 2025
Already liked by matth1j
 
(Apologies if there's an existing thread on this; I'm on my phone, couldn't spot one.)

Thanks for posting, matth1j. 

There was a (sort of) relevant previous topic on this subject, but I've now taken the opportunity to do a bit of my 'moving and merging' of topics into this one here.

As ever, I hope this helps our readers in the future. CfN. 

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366092/30804/30]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 18:09, 26th September 2025
 
I was at number 1 last week. Not the Southwest in my opinion, but isn’t the freedom of the SW ticket valid there?

I was going the long way around sampling some different cheap options

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366091/30804/30]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 18:01, 26th September 2025
 
5.  Liskeard.

Re: East Midlands Railways - Class 810 Aurora fleet entering service (merged posts)
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [366088/24525/51]
Posted by matth1j at 17:04, 26th September 2025
 
(Apologies if there's an existing thread on this; I'm on my phone, couldn't spot one.)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c784z19j9zgo
The first trains of a new fleet connecting Leicester, Derby, Nottingham and Sheffield with London are set to come into service after their introduction was initially delayed.

East Midlands Railway (EMR) received the first two trains from the Class 810 Aurora fleet in August, which allowed drivers and crew to begin training.

The fleet was originally expected in 2022 but faced teething problems during testing, with EMR then hoping to run the new trains from May 2025.

Some trains from the new Class 810 Aurora fleet are now set to be put into use on services in the coming weeks and will complete a phased rollout through 2026.

A "small number" of EMR services will run with fewer carriages during the transition and some services will not have seat reservations, EMR said.

A spokesperson added "key services" would be prioritised during the transition phase to minimise disruption.

Interior of a first class carriage of a new train featuring purple and grey seats
Image source,East Midlands Railway
Image caption,
East Midlands Railway says the new trains will improve facilities and comfort for passengers

The Intercity fleet of 33 five-carriage trains is being built by Hitachi Rail in County Durham.

They were ordered to replace diesel trains introduced in 2004 and will run off electric power from overhead lines between London St Pancras and a junction to the south of Leicester.

Diesel engines will power the trains elsewhere on the network.

The Class 810 units are similar to existing trains running on the East Coast and Great Western main lines.

As well as new-look interiors, they feature extra seating, air conditioning, free wi-fi, plug sockets and improved information screens.

Re: Eurostar - merged posts, ongoing discussion topic
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [366087/26929/52]
Posted by grahame at 16:48, 26th September 2025
Already liked by eightonedee
 
From the BBC:

Three Kent councils push to bring Eurostar services back to Kent



St Pancras is bursting at the seams, but immigration setup and all the rest are complex and providing them for some passengers getting off at Ashford, Ebbsfleet and Stratford on the way into London would abstract from Eurostar's [cash cow / profit] with no great gain for them ... so here is a parallel universe idea ...

For a newcomer to the market (selection available) run to  ...  Calais then Koln, Basel, Milan. and/or Frankfurt, Munich, Vienna. and/or Lyon, Narbonne, Barcelona.   All from a UK hub at Ashford which is where all the complex stuff goes.  From Ashford ... what is there onwards from Ashford?  Looking in the next 45 minutes:

Three destinations in different sectors of London
London Charing Cross via Tonbridge
London Victoria via Maidstone
London St Pancras via Stratford

Plus three directions in the Kent and Sussex region
Folkestone and Dover
Hastings and Eastbourne
Canterbury, Ramsgate and Margate

And why not divert that third North Down line train that should be running
Redhill, Guildford and Reading

Seven onward trains - a really good spray - ready made ...

Petition to halve speed limit
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [366086/30807/5]
Posted by Marlburian at 16:33, 26th September 2025
 
This story has appeared in many newspapers.

I can't see that getting much support.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [366085/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 15:56, 26th September 2025
 
Friday September 26

1W21 1053 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill (13:01) : departed +14, arrived +24.
1W02 1152 London Paddington to Hereford : held Evesham (+23) for 1P30, arrived Great Malvern +30 and cancelled thereafter.
1W25 1252 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate St (15:00) : arrived Shrub Hill +15  and cancelled thereafter.

1P30 1316 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington : departed +15,  arrived +32.

15:18 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:29 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a speed restriction over defective track.
Last Updated:26/09/2025 15:05

15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Great Malvern.
This is due to congestion.
Last Updated:26/09/2025 14:20


Re: Electric 'flying taxis', trialled in Bristol, to be built at Cotswold Airport
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [366084/24646/31]
Posted by Clan Line at 15:53, 26th September 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
"I have an important meeting to attend in the Council House in Bristol: please fly me to College Green." 

"............and send the bill to the Council, by air mail".

Re: Eurostar - merged posts, ongoing discussion topic
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [366083/26929/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:55, 26th September 2025
 
From the BBC:

Three Kent councils push to bring Eurostar services back to Kent



Three local authorities are making another appeal for international rail services to be brought back to Kent.

Eurostar services have not stopped at Ashford International and Ebbsfleet international stations since 2020, when passenger numbers fell during the Covid-19 pandemic.

On Friday leaders of Kent County Council and Ashford and Dartford borough councils gathered at Ashford to sign a memorandum of understanding, agreeing to fight for them to be restored.

Eurostar said the situation will be reviewed in 2026.

The three councils will also back proposals to allow operators other than Eurostar to run passenger services through the Channel Tunnel.

Other companies who have expressed an interest in running international services are Virgin, TrenItalia and a partnership between Gemini and Uber, with Kent and Sussex MPs backing the idea earlier in September.

To do so they would need to be allowed access to the Temple Mills International Depot in Leyton, London, the only facility where Channel Tunnel trains can be serviced, and currently run by Eurostar. The Office of Road and Rail is due to take a decision in October on whether to allow other operators to use the depot.

KCC leader Linden Kemkaran said: "Kent's residents and businesses have waited long enough. The infrastructure is here, the demand is real, and the benefits are huge - thousands of jobs, stronger trade, and hundreds of millions for our economy."

Ashford Borough Council leader Noel Ovenden said: "Over 25 years of significant investment has ensured Ashford International remains ready, keeping alive the opportunity to support European travel. Delivering on international services by re-opening this gateway to Europe holds the key to unlocking the benefits of that investment, not just in Ashford, but for the whole of Kent, wider South East region and the UK economy."

Jeremy Kite, leader of Dartford Borough Council added: "We're absolutely convinced that the return of services represents a major commercial opportunity, as demand for international rail travel grows. Ebbsfleet has all the potential to play a key role in the European rail network and stimulate further regeneration in the area."

And Vince Maple, who leads Medway Council, said: "Restoring international services to two already established railway stations in Kent would support a critical sector in our economy as well as thousands of jobs and provide climate-friendly travel for Kent and Medway residents to venture into Europe."

A 75,000-signature petition calling for the return of international services has also been collected.

Rail minister Lord Peter Hendy, who was at the event, said: "It is clear that demand for international rail services has bounced back since the pandemic and is now at record levels, reflecting the growing demand for sustainable connections to Europe. We know there is potential for much more and I want to see major changes over the coming years that mark a new chapter for international travel which we are committed to unlocking. It will take some time to get here, but this Government is doing everything it can to make sure these stations are served."

The bid is also being supported by French politicians and business leaders.

(BBC article continues)


Re: MetroWest services begin
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [366082/25753/21]
Posted by grahame at 13:06, 26th September 2025
 
News about the Huddersfield station work, from the BBC:

'My profits are down 40% since station closed'



Interesting choice of headline - as far as I can see from the article, the restaurant owner talks of his business income 40% less than he would have expected for this month of the year.    He does not translate that into profit - I would not expect that to be a linear relationship; overheads such as his business rates will, surely, remain unchanged and he will have had unplanned costs from reducing his staff. He says himself that his electric bills are the same.

Re: MetroWest services begin
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [366080/25753/21]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:45, 26th September 2025
 
News about the Huddersfield station work, from the BBC:

'My profits are down 40% since station closed'



The owner of a family-run restaurant in Huddersfield has said profits are down 40% since the nearby railway station closed for a major upgrade a month ago.

Huddersfield Station is set to reopen on Monday after being shut for 30 days so three platforms could be rebuilt and extended as part of the Transpennine Route Upgrade (TRU).

But local businesses have been adversely affected by the project as commuters coming and going from cities like Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and York have been far fewer.

Ersim Altitarmak, owner of Meson La Pepa restaurant, told the BBC: "The closure has had a chain effect on everyone - from reducing my staff to the amount I buy in the shops."

There have been no services since 30 August and customers have had to use rail replacement buses or diversionary routes.

Mr Altitarmak, 42, said: "A lot of our regulars are from places like Marsden and Mirfield and call up to order lunch or dinner - but they have to keep cancelling due to the trains. It's disappointing for a business - we are down about 40% in the last month. It's as quiet as it is in January straight after Christmas."

Ahead of the reopening, Network Rail said the station now has three rebuilt and extended platforms. However, stage two of the upgrade is still ongoing and stations including Cottingley, Morley, Batley, Ravensthorpe, Brighouse, Halifax, Low Moor and Bradford Interchange still do not have direct trains to Huddersfield.

Some services will continue as rail replacement buses and customers may need to change trains as part of their journey, Network Rail also said.

Mr Altitarmak has been forced to cut down his staff hours, which they "are not happy about", he said. "I have to reduce my staff - because I obviously cannot turn off my electricity, my bills are the same. The price of everything has gone up."

(BBC article continues)


Re: Samaritans to close more than 100 branches
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [366079/30487/31]
Posted by grahame at 12:27, 26th September 2025
 
From the BBC:

"With less people, [the Samaritans] are not going to be able to answer as many calls. This is the point we keep making and it seems to be falling on deaf ears. This could be the beginning of the end for the Samaritans."


This topic can have such potential depth that I'm being so-careful in daring to comment about something I know very little about - though it is all around us. 

My Grandfather - my mother's father - committed suicide in what I might describe as the prime of his life and well before I was born, so that comes as an unattached comment.  And more recently, a good friend here in Melksham made an attempt on her own life.  A former colleague in our campaigning described being on a train on the line and being very much aware of the thump when their carriage (a 153) hit someone in Chippenham is a clearly pre-planned happening, and I've also spoken with someone who's brother attempted the same thing at another station in West Wilts and - miraculously - came out uninjured from under the train.

In my - uneducated - view, the service offered by the Samaritains should uniquely be able to pick up calls within a couple of rings direct to a real person with an empathy and time and ability to project that.   I understand that the need for a connection on a train loses around 40% of custom, and - again my view - it would be unacceptable if the service provided  had menu system, "press 1 if ... press 2 if ..." or put you into a queue or had an automated quizzing system at the front end.   

But, yet, it comes down to supply and demand.  Why are we expecting volunteers to do the "phone job"?   Why do so many people use the service?  If the service was limited, would people find their support elsewhere - in other words, is it so busy because it's so free and easy - a law of undiminished demand?  Can we prevent people needing to use the service or anything like it?   I have no answers and I am nervous to even make suggestions.  I really hope that the Samaritains, and others that help people who have fallen into desperate need, are looking at this wide picture and taking a responsibly - perhaps the Samaritans have taken on a chalice that should not have existed - or been anything like as big - in the past, and it may be time for others, wider, to step up?

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366078/30804/30]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:22, 26th September 2025
 

(For what it's worth, Cornwall/Devon/Dorset/Somerset is South West, everything else is up North!)



Gloucestershire, South Worcestershire, Wiltshire, West Hampshire, South Herefordshire all count as definitely Not "Up North", in my book.  And neither are they in the East or South East.

By elimination, they must be in the South West

South/West/Welsh borders......take your pick! 

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366077/30804/30]
Posted by grahame at 11:55, 26th September 2025
 
5. Is in the north eastern (B&NES) part of the south west - Keynsham.

Yes, it is

8 Marsh Barton in the South West

and, yes, that's Marsh Barton.


(For what it's worth, Cornwall/Devon/Dorset/Somerset is South West, everything else is up North!)


Gloucestershire, South Worcestershire, Wiltshire, West Hampshire, South Herefordshire all count as definitely Not "Up North", in my book.  And neither are they in the East or South East.

By elimination, they must be in the South West

We'll all be needing to agree to disagree on these area.   What is "Wessex", what is "Central Southern England" and I have heard of Oxford described as the "Southern Midlands" which, perhaps, should include Swindon, Gloucester, etc.

I have been a long time in writing this and see the conversation moving on ... will post anyway as I'm formally confirming the final two answers ...

Re: Ah, but is it the SOUTH WEST??
In "The Lighter Side" [366075/30804/30]
Posted by Clan Line at 11:36, 26th September 2025
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 

 ...........Salisbury pointed out as being in the South West by virtue of it being an LSWR station.......


Indeed, but Salisbury was also (as the trackside signs told you) in "The Strong Country".




 
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