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Re: Split tickets - rule details
In "Fare's Fair" [372195/31593/4]
Posted by grahame at 14:50, 9th February 2026
 
1. Sorry, your 'either' is correct - you are changing onto a rover ticket, STJ being a station that it is valid at?.

Thank you - I was having trouble working out what "first" and "last" stations meant on a rover ticket at a junction.

Re: Split tickets - rule details
In "Fare's Fair" [372194/31593/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:22, 9th February 2026
 
1. Sorry, your 'either' is correct - you are changing onto a rover ticket, STJ being a station that it is valid at?.

Re: East West Rail Timetable
In "Chiltern Railways services" [372193/29004/44]
Posted by John D at 12:49, 9th February 2026
 
They need union sign off in order to operate. The depot that the DfT want Chiltern to use is currently NOT DOO, hence using DOO at Bletchley depot will mean that the RMT will be in dispute at that depot & will likely call out their members there.

East West rail has proposed a new depot (which is still going through planning and consultation) north of Newton Longville, north of the east-West railway, west of Bletchley, near Whaddon Road.

This will be for whole line so will have 20 sidings for 5car trains plus a maintenance depot.

But the complication is in short term, wanted to use existing non DOO depot at Bletchley in interim, and union sees it as slippery slope to converting existing Bletchley depot to DOO.

Re: Split tickets - rule details
In "Fare's Fair" [372192/31593/4]
Posted by grahame at 12:45, 9th February 2026
 
1. yes
2. Not all stations are splitting stations, so unless you find one, don't worry about it.

Question 1 was an "either / or" - good to have a positive answer Chris, but which of the alternatives I asked about was it "yes" to?

Question 2 I HAVE previously found - at the example I used (Sugar Loaf) and the train crew were less than amused.

3. Probably there for future use too enable a ticket T&Cs 'simplification'
4. Looking for them on the National Rail website - only the current version will feature

On 4.  - What if you book and then find that the conditions have changed?  Yes - a little more unlikely that questions 1 and 2 which will (1) and have (2) been pertinent to my own journeys.

Re: East West Rail Timetable
In "Chiltern Railways services" [372191/29004/44]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:21, 9th February 2026
 
They need union sign off in order to operate. The depot that the DfT want Chiltern to use is currently NOT DOO, hence using DOO at Bletchley depot will mean that the RMT will be in dispute at that depot & will likely call out their members there.

Re: Split tickets - rule details
In "Fare's Fair" [372190/31593/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:18, 9th February 2026
 
1. yes
2. Not all stations are splitting stations, so unless you find one, don't worry about it.
3. Probably there for future use too enable a ticket T&Cs 'simplification'
4. Looking for them on the National Rail website - only the current version will feature

Re: East West Rail Timetable
In "Chiltern Railways services" [372189/29004/44]
Posted by ray951 at 12:13, 9th February 2026
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
This whole situation is incredibly frustrating and feels like yet another example of money being wasted on the railways.

I’m struggling to understand why the RMT are involved at all — if there are no guards on the trains, who exactly are they negotiating on behalf of?

Re: Wheelchair user (from Melksham) calls for better travel facilities (BBC)
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [372188/31594/28]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:11, 9th February 2026
 
In my experience, black cabs are a]only designed to take manual wheelchairs. I cannot get my powerchair into a diesel black cab although the electric ones are slightly bigger & will squeeze me in. Also you have to travel sideways in a 'traditional' diesel black cab which can be unpleasant for any distance.

Re: East West Rail Timetable
In "Chiltern Railways services" [372186/29004/44]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:46, 9th February 2026
 
Chiltern was announced nearly 18 months ago (and probably had Heads Up many weeks before that), so why starting a service is still being discussed with DfT is a mystery to me

Your answer is in the article....DOO/DCO argument with the RMT & DfT don't want to pay any more.....

A local councillor said it had been due to open in the Buckinghamshire town in December 2025 but there had been a "comedy of errors", including a row over who will control the opening and closing of carriage doors.

Re: East West Rail Timetable
In "Chiltern Railways services" [372185/29004/44]
Posted by John D at 11:39, 9th February 2026
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An Update from a local councillor, at Winslow, who has apparently had update from Chiltern.

Chiltern was announced nearly 18 months ago (and probably had Heads Up many weeks before that), so why starting a service is still being discussed with DfT is a mystery to me

Residents of Winslow are frustrated a new railway station completed over a year ago has still not opened.

A local councillor said it had been due to open in the Buckinghamshire town in December 2025 but there had been a "comedy of errors", including a row over who will control the opening and closing of carriage doors.

Diana Blamires, who sits on the town council, said the local community was "obviously furious" and "it makes Winslow station a laughing stock".

In a statement, Chiltern Railways - responsible for operating services between Oxford and Milton Keynes - said no date for the opening had yet been confirmed.

Blamires said: "Now we are told there are no trains and the rolling stock has gone elsewhere.

"And next the platforms are going to have to be rebuilt to make them longer because of Universal Studios coming to the area."

Winslow resident Andy Dyke said the station always came up in conversations between locals.

He said: "It is frustrating for the town."

Natalie Wheble, from the East West Rail project (EWR), told a transport meeting at Buckinghamshire Council longer trains were needed because of the expected increased demand generated by the Universal theme park, due to be built near Bedford.

She said EWR expected to run five-car trains rather than the previously planned four, which meant its plans had changed.

A spokesperson for EWR added: "This uplift in capacity has led to a review of all infrastructure requirements and in the case of Winslow station, a decision has been taken to extend the platforms, so it can accommodate the use of longer trains.

"Any work to extend platforms at Winslow would not affect the introduction of Chiltern's new services."

They said that in March last year, the government had announced that Chiltern Railways would be the operator of services connecting Oxford and Milton Keynes.

"Since then, Chiltern has been working closely with the Department of Transport and industry colleagues with the aim of introducing services on the new line as soon as possible."

Fairly sure there was a date for opening (in 2025), but just didn't do it then, and appears haven't got a revised date yet.  Reminds me of movie Zootropolis where sloths are doing (very slowly) the admin.

https://www.aol.com/articles/delays-opening-makes-station-laughing-061131519.html

Re: Tarka Line - Exeter to Barnstaple: services, facilities, incidents and events
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [372184/15711/24]
Posted by grahame at 10:49, 9th February 2026
 
Oh dear ...

at least they have added "at the earliest" into the detailed text.   But, agreed, it is not clever passenger information to leave it until the last minute to give the bad news of a delay in re-opening.   

I wonder - realistically - if and when we'll next see passenger trains at all three of Looe, Okehampton and Barnstaple

Re: Tarka Line - Exeter to Barnstaple: services, facilities, incidents and events
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [372183/15711/24]
Posted by John D at 10:36, 9th February 2026
 
No trains to Barnstaple or Okehampton for at least another week
Due to flooding between Exeter St Davids and Crediton the line is closed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 16/02/26.
Train services between Exeter St Davids and Barnstaple have been suspended.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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Flooding brought on by Storm Chandra and subsequent rain on saturated ground has meant that the Exeter to Barnstaple line has been closed.
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The flood water has not receded, and much of the surrounding area is under water. Further forecast rain means that the line will remain closed until the end of the day on Monday 16th February at the earliest.

Also extended the Looe branch close to end of Monday 16th at earliest

All these 3 were showing until end of Monday 9th early yesterday evening, and not clear why they waited until early Monday to realise needed 7 extra days. 

This isn't a very customer friendly way of doing updates, waiting until last day of closure to update info.

Wheelchair user (from Melksham) calls for better travel facilities (BBC)
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [372182/31594/28]
Posted by matth1j at 10:17, 9th February 2026
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2e18dgvrp4o

A wheelchair user who took part in a 48-hour challenge to travel from Wiltshire to London on public transport said "more action" was needed to improve facilities.

Chris Davis, 60, from Melksham, completed the journey as part of a Spinal Injuries Association campaign to raise awareness of the barriers disabled passengers face.

"What should have been a straightforward trip became a series of accessibility failures," Davis said, after he encountered a broken down lift and tried to get a taxi which was not big enough for his wheelchair.

The Department for Transport said it was "determined" to make travel easier for everyone, including by improving step-free access at stations.

"Real life accounts like these show just how difficult it can be to travel with a disability," a spokesperson for the department said.

They added that the government had earmarked £280m to improve station access and passenger assistance, while also creating "tough new accessibility standards for buses and taxi drivers".

Davis was one of six people with spinal cord injuries who planned and completed a journey to London using at least two forms of public transport as part of the challenge.

He travelled from Melksham to London Paddington before he ended his journey at Trafalgar Square.

Davis used trains and buses on his journey to London and tried to use a black taxi to get home. However, he had to change his plans and get a train because his wheelchair would not fit in the taxi.

"Better taxi access would make the biggest difference," he said.

Emma Strain, Transport for London's (TfL's) director of customer, said being able to get around London safely and comfortably was "crucial for everyone to be able to live their lives fully".

Black cabs are legally required to take wheelchair users and Strain said all licensed London black taxis have been made to be wheelchair-accessible.

Davis said he felt "vulnerable" after arriving at London's Liverpool Street station to find a broken down lift. After asking for help, he was taken to use a goods lift.

"It wasn't particularly nice," he said. "Those kind of things can be quite challenging."

In response, Strain said TfL understood the "frustration and inconvenience" its passengers experience when there is no step-free access.

'It's getting better'

Davis said with lots of planning and a back-up plan, travelling on public transport as a wheelchair user "can be done".

"Facilities are improving, it's a bit slow, but it is getting better," he said.

"We can keep talking about these challenges, but someone somewhere needs to actually take action on improving facilities.

"I would absolutely do it again - the more involvement the disabled community has in that process the better," he added.

The Spinal Injuries Association campaign was funded by funded by the Motability Foundation.

Both charities said disabled passengers have "dramatically different" experiences on public transport and explained they are committed to "supporting robust evidence that highlights where barriers persist and what action is needed to address these."

Split tickets - rule details
In "Fare's Fair" [372181/31593/4]
Posted by grahame at 10:10, 9th February 2026
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From National Rail - Conditions of Travel / latest edition of 23rd November 2025

Unless Condition 14.1 applies, if you are using a Season Ticket, daily Zonal Ticket, or another area based Ticket such as a concessionary pass, ranger, or rover, in conjunction with another Ticket and the last station at which one Ticket is valid and the first station that the other Ticket is valid are the same, then the train does not need to Call at that station for your combination to be valid.

1. How are "first" and "last" stations defined?

If I am travelling from Melksham to Chester, am I allowed to use a Melksham to Severn Tunnel Junction ticket and transfer there to an Explore Wales ticket even if the train coming through the tunnel from the Pilning direction does not call until Newport?    Does STJ count as the "first" station on the rover, even though it's valid from Cheltenham Spa, or do I need to drop back at Temple Meads off the Trowbridge to Cardiff service onto the Exeter to Cardiff service?

2. The NRCOT these days has a clause about pick up and set down only stops at ticket split stations - as I understand it, you can't do a split at such stops.  It has still not clarified in my mind the status of splits at request stops such as Sugar Loaf - do you need to ask the train crew to stop to make your split valid?

Some Tickets specifically exclude their use in conjunction with other Tickets. This will be made clear in the terms and conditions when buying such Tickets.

3. Scratching my head looking for examples.   Probably missing the obvious ... and does that mean that if you have such a ticket from - say - London to Pewsey - that you could still carry on travel on the same train if you get off and get straight back on again?

4. NRCoT has a start date but no expiry date.   How does the customer know whether or not the version quoted above if the current one?

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [372180/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 09:41, 9th February 2026
Already liked by matth1j
 
Reinstated by 7pm; unfortunate for would-be passengers who had already altered their plans, and for the taxi drivers who weren’t ultimately engaged to cover The Railway’s staff shortage.

Indeed ...

I can understand that there are times of uncertainty when operational and other issues add doubt as to whether a train can run ... and a difficult call to know whether to declare a problem to alert people as early as possible, or to proceed in trying to find a solution and keep mum about it until it's blindingly obvious that a train won't run / will skip stops, etc.

As a passenger, I stand by my wish that it wasn't just a "red/green" system but a "red/amber/green" system of information such that yesterday's might have flagged up as amber - "we may have to run buses / taxis in place of this train" rather than "this train is cancelled" - at least earlier in the day until it's known which way it's going.

I should add that we are seeing fewer cancellations as a whole on Swindon <-> Westbury services this year, bringing us much more into line - measured on percentage of trains cancelled - with other stations in the region.  Thank You to those who have helped with this - it makes the service much more attractive, marketable, growable - and analysis suggests that across Wiltshire the two current stations where there are latent opportunities are Melksham and Dilton Marsh.    Being able to rely on a service is key ... though I would point out that having a booked passenger service at all at roughly the right time is even more important to its use that the occasional cancellation.

Re: Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents and events - merged posts
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [372179/593/9]
Posted by ray951 at 09:05, 9th February 2026
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It’s good to see that the installation of the new Botley Road bridge was completed on schedule, with the first train to cross it appearing to be the 6A68 01:37 Westbury Tarmac to Oxford Banbury Road, which passed through at 04:46

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [372178/31359/18]
Posted by brooklea at 08:43, 9th February 2026
 

20:38 Westbury to Swindon due 21:23
21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16

21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Reinstated by 7pm; unfortunate for would-be passengers who had already altered their plans, and for the taxi drivers who weren’t ultimately engaged to cover The Railway’s staff shortage.

Re: Tarka Line - Exeter to Barnstaple: services, facilities, incidents and events
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [372177/15711/24]
Posted by brooklea at 08:34, 9th February 2026
 
No trains to Barnstaple or Okehampton for at least another week
Due to flooding between Exeter St Davids and Crediton the line is closed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 16/02/26.
Train services between Exeter St Davids and Barnstaple have been suspended.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
-
Flooding brought on by Storm Chandra and subsequent rain on saturated ground has meant that the Exeter to Barnstaple line has been closed.
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The flood water has not receded, and much of the surrounding area is under water. Further forecast rain means that the line will remain closed until the end of the day on Monday 16th February at the earliest.

Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [372176/569/25]
Posted by brooklea at 08:28, 9th February 2026
 
A further week of disruption announced this morning.
Due to flooding between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.

Train services running to and from these stations have been suspended. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 16/02/26.

Re: Canals: not 'the lighter side', but I do commend this to our readers
In "Introductions and chat" [372175/31515/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 04:12, 9th February 2026
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I continue to follow the posts from 'Cruising The Cut' by David Johns.

This particular episode I think is an absolute belter - a fully working model railway, built within an historic narrowboat: it's just under twelve minutes of pure joy to watch.

CfN.

Re: Clockface timetables - a good idea?
In "Across the West" [372174/31583/26]
Posted by ellendune at 00:34, 9th February 2026
 
I replied don't know because, while I agree it would be good, I am not sure that it would not constrain the timetable so much on a crowded railway that it could not actually provide the best service for passengers and freight. 

Re: London Necropolis Railway, terminus at Waterloo - merged posts
In "The Lighter Side" [372173/20304/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:47, 8th February 2026
 
Prompted by an 'On This Day' link on the forum - which didn't link to any specific item - I did some digging, so to speak.

I found several old posts relating to this subject, so I moved and merged them here, lest they remain dead and buried elsewhere.  I obviously remained serious, even grave, stone faced while I did so.

CfN.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [372171/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 20:35, 8th February 2026
 
19:43 Swindon to Westbury due 20:25

19:43 Swindon to Westbury due 20:25 has been delayed at Swindon and is now 5 minutes late.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [372166/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 16:04, 8th February 2026
 
 
20:38 Westbury to Swindon due 21:23
21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16

21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

 
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