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| Re: Slough bus station to be sold off In "Buses and other ways to travel" [371205/31465/5] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 17:44, 18th January 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
The current arrangements dump passengers from many routes on the wrong side of a dual carriageway from the station, with no clear route between the two. I don't miss that bus station at all (its predecessor was pretty grim but at least kept the rain off!) but I hope there will finally be a proper review of stopping arrangements with the council using what payout they do get to best effect. They really should keep at least some of the land to allow more buses to serve the station.
| Re: New Forest trainline closed for emergency repairs after landslip In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371204/31464/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:40, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
Yes - I had a grin about the wording in the BBC article, so I made a point of quoting it verbatim. [Image from here is not available to guests]
| Re: New Forest trainline closed for emergency repairs after landslip In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371203/31464/51] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 17:34, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
...whatever a "trainline" is! No reflection on CfN, who was I assume just quoting.
| Re: Webinar/Seminar - Great Western Railways Developments 2025-26 as GBR approaches In "Who's who on Western railways" [371202/31469/2] Posted by ChrisB at 16:22, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
Yes, I noticed that too....
| Re: Webinar/Seminar - Great Western Railways Developments 2025-26 as GBR approaches In "Who's who on Western railways" [371201/31469/2] Posted by rogerw at 16:05, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
Being run by CILT as an in-person in Reading or Zoom webinar
Downstairs at The Three Guineas, Reading Station
Tuesday (next) Jan 20 from 6pm to 8pm GMT
Booking for Members - Free & Non-Members -£5.00 inc. VAT
Tuesday (next) Jan 20 from 6pm to 8pm GMT
Booking for Members - Free & Non-Members -£5.00 inc. VAT
Err - no. £5 + VAT !
Or £7.02 inc VAT via zoom
| Re: Webinar/Seminar - Great Western Railways Developments 2025-26 as GBR approaches In "Who's who on Western railways" [371200/31469/2] Posted by grahame at 15:55, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
Being run by CILT as an in-person in Reading or Zoom webinar
Downstairs at The Three Guineas, Reading Station
Tuesday (next) Jan 20 from 6pm to 8pm GMT
Booking for Members - Free & Non-Members -£5.00 inc. VAT
Tuesday (next) Jan 20 from 6pm to 8pm GMT
Booking for Members - Free & Non-Members -£5.00 inc. VAT
Err - no. £5 + VAT !
| Re: Webinar/Seminar - Great Western Railways Developments 2025-26 as GBR approaches In "Who's who on Western railways" [371199/31469/2] Posted by ChrisB at 15:37, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
Straight after work for those it's aimed at.
| Re: What is happening at Dilton Marsh? Key service reduction! In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [371198/31284/20] Posted by grahame at 15:36, 18th January 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
This thread has been quiet for a week - which, sadly, does not mean that the issue has been resolved and addressed for the people who live at Dilton Marsh and used to use the train that GWR has culled in the evening peak. While there was a chance of a resolution that worked for everyone, even for the customers, the WWRUG committee has been working the issue, and I / we have restrained from getting rather upset with GWR in public.
And quiet on this thread for almost 2 more weeks. And I'm still refraining from some of the things I am tempted (in fury) to say in public, and we still lack many answers. We do have public relations lead answers to some questions, and but some questions have not been addressed. We have a profound disquiet that a TOC can withdraw a service without even notice or consultation for various reasons given which would have ramifications all over the country.
| Re: Roger French Zoom Seminar - How to (a) encourage and (b) discourage passengers In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371197/31466/51] Posted by ChrisB at 15:34, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
Aimed at working professionals - straight after work makes sense to me.
| Re: Rise in some North East bus fares 'unwelcome' says users' group In "Buses and other ways to travel" [371195/31473/5] Posted by ChrisB at 14:19, 18th January 2026 Already liked by GBM, eightonedee | ![]() |
The longer that the Government subsidises bus fares, the harder it will be to stop doing so - the gap between the actual fare & £3 is growing all the time. No one will vote for a party that allows bus fares to return to current fares before too much longer
| Re: Test thread In "News, Help and Assistance" [371194/31443/29] Posted by grahame at 13:46, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
A further test post - explanations will follow in due course
Here is a picture of a breakfast:

Here is a picture of Caen Hill Locks:
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| Re: MetroWest services begin In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [371193/25753/21] Posted by Red Squirrel at 12:22, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
...I'm not convinced by accuracy of ticketing over the years
Rightly so. Pre-January 2023 figures for intermediate stations on the Severn Beach Line are without doubt wrong. After that date, it bacame a penalty fare route and ticketing information became much more accurate. See https://bristolrailcampaign.org.uk/penalty-fares-severn-beach/ for BRC's argument.
| Re: MetroWest services begin In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [371192/25753/21] Posted by Noggin at 11:59, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
Thank you
From the BBC:
Passengers and driver flee as Liverpool bus bursts into flames
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It is not yet clear what caused the bus to burst into flames
All passengers and the driver fled from a bus in Liverpool before it burst into flames and was destroyed.
Everyone onboard the single-decker Arriva service was able to escape before it was consumed by flames on Ormskirk Road in Aintree. There were no "apparent injuries", Merseyside Fire & Rescue service said.
Dramatic pictures showed thick clouds of black smoke billowing up from the body of the vehicle, with large orange flames emerging from the windows. Two fire engines were dispatched to the scene and firefighters managed to suppress the blaze by 12:15 GMT.
Arriva has been contacted for comment.
The road was closed heading towards Switch Island, but a lane has since reopened as fire crews put out the last of the flames.
A fire service spokesperson said: "The driver and all passengers were accounted for and had evacuated the bus before the fire took hold, with no apparent injuries. The incident is likely to cause significant traffic disruption for some time, please avoid the area."
An engineer from Arriva was on scene arranging for recovery of the bus.
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It is not yet clear what caused the bus to burst into flames
All passengers and the driver fled from a bus in Liverpool before it burst into flames and was destroyed.
Everyone onboard the single-decker Arriva service was able to escape before it was consumed by flames on Ormskirk Road in Aintree. There were no "apparent injuries", Merseyside Fire & Rescue service said.
Dramatic pictures showed thick clouds of black smoke billowing up from the body of the vehicle, with large orange flames emerging from the windows. Two fire engines were dispatched to the scene and firefighters managed to suppress the blaze by 12:15 GMT.
Arriva has been contacted for comment.
The road was closed heading towards Switch Island, but a lane has since reopened as fire crews put out the last of the flames.
A fire service spokesperson said: "The driver and all passengers were accounted for and had evacuated the bus before the fire took hold, with no apparent injuries. The incident is likely to cause significant traffic disruption for some time, please avoid the area."
An engineer from Arriva was on scene arranging for recovery of the bus.
| Rise in some North East bus fares 'unwelcome' says users' group In "Buses and other ways to travel" [371190/31473/5] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:24, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Rise in some bus fares called 'unwelcome'
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Some bus fares rose by 10p
A rise in some local bus fares has been called "unwelcome" by a transport users group.
Arriva North East increased its adult single fares in Tyne and Wear and Northumberland by 10p on Sunday. The firm said it had not taken the decision "lightly" and that it was determined to keep services as "affordable as we can".
The North East Public Transport Users Group (Neptug) called the increases "unwelcome" and said it hoped proposed plans to take the region's buses under public control would "protect people from increasing fares".
Arriva North East also said it was updating its adult bus fares in Durham and the Tees Valley to reflect the distance travelled on a journey. It confirmed children's fares in north-east England would remain the same.
Most bus fares in England have been capped by the government at £3 and this is expected to last until at least March 2027.
The North East Combined Authority has further discounted this cap to £2.50 in Northumberland, Tyne and Wear and County Durham.
A spokesperson for the bus firm said: "It's important to be clear these changes are not about generating excessive profits. The majority of fares remain below the government's £3 single fare cap, meaning bus travel continues to offer good value compared with other forms of transport. We're determined to keep services as affordable as we can, while continuing to invest in the network."
Neptug called on buses to be brought under public control. It said: "Ultimately, running bus services in the public interest is the best way to give the people of the region affordable and sustainable options for travelling to work, education, leisure, or healthcare."
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Some bus fares rose by 10p
A rise in some local bus fares has been called "unwelcome" by a transport users group.
Arriva North East increased its adult single fares in Tyne and Wear and Northumberland by 10p on Sunday. The firm said it had not taken the decision "lightly" and that it was determined to keep services as "affordable as we can".
The North East Public Transport Users Group (Neptug) called the increases "unwelcome" and said it hoped proposed plans to take the region's buses under public control would "protect people from increasing fares".
Arriva North East also said it was updating its adult bus fares in Durham and the Tees Valley to reflect the distance travelled on a journey. It confirmed children's fares in north-east England would remain the same.
Most bus fares in England have been capped by the government at £3 and this is expected to last until at least March 2027.
The North East Combined Authority has further discounted this cap to £2.50 in Northumberland, Tyne and Wear and County Durham.
A spokesperson for the bus firm said: "It's important to be clear these changes are not about generating excessive profits. The majority of fares remain below the government's £3 single fare cap, meaning bus travel continues to offer good value compared with other forms of transport. We're determined to keep services as affordable as we can, while continuing to invest in the network."
Neptug called on buses to be brought under public control. It said: "Ultimately, running bus services in the public interest is the best way to give the people of the region affordable and sustainable options for travelling to work, education, leisure, or healthcare."
| Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026 In "TransWilts line" [371189/31359/18] Posted by grahame at 11:03, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
Here's a clearer table ... removing the pedantic detail for trains that are virtually on time

| Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026 In "TransWilts line" [371188/31359/18] Posted by grahame at 10:50, 18th January 2026 Already liked by Mark A, matth1j | ![]() |
To help quantify / analyse the issues in particular for passengers who are departing and arriving at Melksham Station, I am recording the logged performance of each train timetabled to call at present, from industry feeds.

I have taken the delay/repay cutoffs of 15 and 30 minutes as my colour change points, with an extra short "within 2 minutes" note in particular to watch the 07:21 train which has a tight unofficial connection at Chippenham for Bristol Temple Meads.
Northbound and Southbound are separate reports - this is an analysis for customers and if someone's headed for Westbury, the next train isn't much use to them if it's going to Swindon.
Reporting systems for Melksham are from equipment a little way from the station; whilst we have had occasions where a train has left early, in practise most train manager and drivers do wait until the due time; the lines showing early departures above are in most cases accounted for by a train that's ready to leave early, but in fact hung around.
| St Albans cable theft causes major delays for train travel In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371187/31472/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:29, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Cable theft causes major delays for train travel
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ThamesLink and East Midlands Railway services are affected by the cable theft near St Albans
Theft of signalling cables has caused "major disruption" on parts of the train network, National Rail said.
The cables were stolen at Napsbury, resulting in a fault with the signalling system at nearby St Albans, Hertfordshire.
East Midlands Railway services between Sheffield, Nottingham, Corby and London St Pancras were affected as well as Thameslink services between Bedford and East Croydon, and also between Luton and Rainham, in Kent.
A spokeswoman said work to replace the cables was taking place overnight and normal services were expected to resume by the end of the day on Sunday.
The company said the theft resulted in "major disruption" meaning "at St Albans City means that fewer trains are able to run on all lines"
"As a result, trains running between Luton and London St Pancras International and may be cancelled, delayed or revised."
On National Rail's website, East Midlands Railway advised customers to expect delays of up to 15 minutes.
Thameslink also told customers that services between Bedford and East Croydon were reduced to two trains running in each direction per hour and between Luton/St Albans and Sutton (via both Mitcham Junction and Wimbledon) it will be reduced to one train running in each direction per hour.
Alternative arrangements for travel have been posted on the National Rail site.
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ThamesLink and East Midlands Railway services are affected by the cable theft near St Albans
Theft of signalling cables has caused "major disruption" on parts of the train network, National Rail said.
The cables were stolen at Napsbury, resulting in a fault with the signalling system at nearby St Albans, Hertfordshire.
East Midlands Railway services between Sheffield, Nottingham, Corby and London St Pancras were affected as well as Thameslink services between Bedford and East Croydon, and also between Luton and Rainham, in Kent.
A spokeswoman said work to replace the cables was taking place overnight and normal services were expected to resume by the end of the day on Sunday.
The company said the theft resulted in "major disruption" meaning "at St Albans City means that fewer trains are able to run on all lines"
"As a result, trains running between Luton and London St Pancras International and may be cancelled, delayed or revised."
On National Rail's website, East Midlands Railway advised customers to expect delays of up to 15 minutes.
Thameslink also told customers that services between Bedford and East Croydon were reduced to two trains running in each direction per hour and between Luton/St Albans and Sutton (via both Mitcham Junction and Wimbledon) it will be reduced to one train running in each direction per hour.
Alternative arrangements for travel have been posted on the National Rail site.
| Re: Railway bridges struck by road vehicles - merged topic, ongoing discussion In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371186/8910/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:15, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Highways bosses review A5's most bashed bridge solution
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Lorries regularly misjudge the A5 Watling Street bridge's height
Highways officials are reviewing a long-awaited scheme aimed at stopping tall vehicles hitting a low bridge dubbed "Britain's most bashed".
Work to lower the road under the rail bridge over the A5 Watling Street, near Hinckley, was initially due to be carried out in March 2024, but has yet to begin.
National Highways has said a technical review of the road-lowering plan would progress in the coming weeks and it was hoped work could begin later this year. However, councillors fear the "highly complex" scheme might be unviable.
The road-lowering plan was approved when permission was granted for a large logistics park near the bridge in June 2023. Developer Mountpark said it would fund the project and is working with National Highways on final proposals.
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National Highways said delays to the scheme had been frustrating
Hinckley and Bosworth borough councillor Paul Williams said: "The developer is prepared to pay for the scheme, but it still needs to be confirmed by National Highways."
"The issue is that if you lower the road you could get down into the water table and then there is the risk of flooding on a very busy road," he added. "That's complicated it and is the main cause of the delays. If they decide, after this review, that the scheme can't go ahead, we are back to square one."
Network Rail figures have shown the A5 bridge was struck 22 times between 1 April 2024 and 31 March 2025, confirming its status as the most bashed bridge in the country.
Williams said each strike caused massive traffic jams on nearby roads and said lorry drivers themselves had a responsibility to avoid the bridge if they have very tall vehicles.
Ann Pendlebury, a borough councillor for Hinckley and a county councillor, said: "We have to get on with something to solve this problem and I fear the logistics park will be completed and in use long before the bridge work happens."
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Officials said they needed to be sure the complex road lowering could be carried out safely
National Highways programme development manager, Ian Doust, said: "Our priority for this, as with all of our roads, is safety, which is why we have worked closely with the developer to ensure this is carried out to the highest design and technical specifications and is delivered without unacceptable levels of disruption.
"This is not a quick fix to the issues at this location, it is a highly complex engineering solution and lowering the road must not adversely impact the bridge or drainage system, particularly with changing weather patterns. Taking into account traffic levels, we must be certain work can be delivered safely and without unacceptable levels of disruption.
"We work closely with the developers and the design is now ready for technical approval consideration, with work scheduled to start this year. While the time taken may be frustrating, this level of scrutiny and assurance is essential to ensure that the road will be safe, serviceable and resilient for years to come."
Mountpark has been contacted for comment.
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Lorries regularly misjudge the A5 Watling Street bridge's height
Highways officials are reviewing a long-awaited scheme aimed at stopping tall vehicles hitting a low bridge dubbed "Britain's most bashed".
Work to lower the road under the rail bridge over the A5 Watling Street, near Hinckley, was initially due to be carried out in March 2024, but has yet to begin.
National Highways has said a technical review of the road-lowering plan would progress in the coming weeks and it was hoped work could begin later this year. However, councillors fear the "highly complex" scheme might be unviable.
The road-lowering plan was approved when permission was granted for a large logistics park near the bridge in June 2023. Developer Mountpark said it would fund the project and is working with National Highways on final proposals.
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National Highways said delays to the scheme had been frustrating
Hinckley and Bosworth borough councillor Paul Williams said: "The developer is prepared to pay for the scheme, but it still needs to be confirmed by National Highways."
"The issue is that if you lower the road you could get down into the water table and then there is the risk of flooding on a very busy road," he added. "That's complicated it and is the main cause of the delays. If they decide, after this review, that the scheme can't go ahead, we are back to square one."
Network Rail figures have shown the A5 bridge was struck 22 times between 1 April 2024 and 31 March 2025, confirming its status as the most bashed bridge in the country.
Williams said each strike caused massive traffic jams on nearby roads and said lorry drivers themselves had a responsibility to avoid the bridge if they have very tall vehicles.
Ann Pendlebury, a borough councillor for Hinckley and a county councillor, said: "We have to get on with something to solve this problem and I fear the logistics park will be completed and in use long before the bridge work happens."
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Officials said they needed to be sure the complex road lowering could be carried out safely
National Highways programme development manager, Ian Doust, said: "Our priority for this, as with all of our roads, is safety, which is why we have worked closely with the developer to ensure this is carried out to the highest design and technical specifications and is delivered without unacceptable levels of disruption.
"This is not a quick fix to the issues at this location, it is a highly complex engineering solution and lowering the road must not adversely impact the bridge or drainage system, particularly with changing weather patterns. Taking into account traffic levels, we must be certain work can be delivered safely and without unacceptable levels of disruption.
"We work closely with the developers and the design is now ready for technical approval consideration, with work scheduled to start this year. While the time taken may be frustrating, this level of scrutiny and assurance is essential to ensure that the road will be safe, serviceable and resilient for years to come."
Mountpark has been contacted for comment.
| Heighington Station plans to excavate 'world's oldest train platform' In "Railway History and related topics" [371185/31471/55] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 09:26, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Plans to excavate 'world's oldest train platform'
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The building was bought by the charity in 2025
Plans are being drawn up to excavate what is believed to be the world's oldest train platform.
Last year Heighington Station, which dates to back to 1827 and was part of the first passenger railway to use steam trains in the world, was bought by the charity Friends of the Stockton and Darlington Railway.
The group's chair Niall Hammond said the excavation of a small train platform located near the site was planned. He said it was presumed it was the "original for the building" because it looked the right size and shape. He said plans were still in the early stages, but that the group hoped to attract lots of volunteers to the dig over the summer.
Hammond said the platform, which is next to the station, was "tiny" and had cobbles. He said ideally the team would find a "Georgian penny" at the bottom of the platform during the dig which would confirm its age.
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The charity plans to make the site accessible to the public
The charity has owned the building since September after buying it for £285,000 following a fundraising drive.
Hammond said it hoped to make the site accessible to the public. "We want to refurbish it so that it feels like it's 1827 again," he said. "Staff will be in appropriate clothes and costumes - it'll be candle lit and the decor will be 1827."
He estimated that restoration work would cost £3m and that most of the year would be spent filling out grant applications.
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The building was bought by the charity in 2025
Plans are being drawn up to excavate what is believed to be the world's oldest train platform.
Last year Heighington Station, which dates to back to 1827 and was part of the first passenger railway to use steam trains in the world, was bought by the charity Friends of the Stockton and Darlington Railway.
The group's chair Niall Hammond said the excavation of a small train platform located near the site was planned. He said it was presumed it was the "original for the building" because it looked the right size and shape. He said plans were still in the early stages, but that the group hoped to attract lots of volunteers to the dig over the summer.
Hammond said the platform, which is next to the station, was "tiny" and had cobbles. He said ideally the team would find a "Georgian penny" at the bottom of the platform during the dig which would confirm its age.
[Image from here is not available to guests]
The charity plans to make the site accessible to the public
The charity has owned the building since September after buying it for £285,000 following a fundraising drive.
Hammond said it hoped to make the site accessible to the public. "We want to refurbish it so that it feels like it's 1827 again," he said. "Staff will be in appropriate clothes and costumes - it'll be candle lit and the decor will be 1827."
He estimated that restoration work would cost £3m and that most of the year would be spent filling out grant applications.
| Re: Derailment at Goodrington In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371183/31459/24] Posted by REVUpminster at 07:13, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
They have gotten away with leaving a train in the platform for an hour before now but it is not ideal.
The new eastern entrance which they had planning permission for was never built. It was an extension of the footbridge to a new lift and staircase on land being used as a car park. Space would also be left for a fourth track and platform long enough for a five car train.
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/new-vision-newton-abbot-railway-2863221.amp
| Re: Roger French Zoom Seminar - How to (a) encourage and (b) discourage passengers In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371182/31466/51] Posted by infoman at 04:07, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
Excellent timing of the meeting
| Re: Webinar/Seminar - Great Western Railways Developments 2025-26 as GBR approaches In "Who's who on Western railways" [371181/31469/2] Posted by infoman at 04:06, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
Excellent timing of the meeting.
| Re: Derailment at Goodrington In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371180/31459/24] Posted by grahame at 02:32, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
10:34 London Paddington to Paignton due 13:44
12:34 London Paddington to Paignton due 15:49
14:53 Paignton to London Paddington due 18:05
16:54 Paignton to London Paddington due 20:05
16:54 Paignton to London Paddington due 20:05 will be started from Newton Abbot.
It will no longer call at Paignton, Torquay and Torre.
This is due to a points failure.
12:34 London Paddington to Paignton due 15:49
14:53 Paignton to London Paddington due 18:05
16:54 Paignton to London Paddington due 20:05
16:54 Paignton to London Paddington due 20:05 will be started from Newton Abbot.
It will no longer call at Paignton, Torquay and Torre.
This is due to a points failure.
Newton Abbot has struck me as being a pretty thin layout these days. Is this going to cause congestion there?
| Re: MetroWest services begin In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [371179/25753/21] Posted by grahame at 02:26, 18th January 2026 | ![]() |
An interesting question is what percentage of Severn Beach residents get off the train at intermediate stations before Temple Meads?
If a new north-to-east chord was put in place, would many actually prefer a train to Temple Meads via Brabazon and Filton Abbey Wood, particularly if it was faster?
If a new north-to-east chord was put in place, would many actually prefer a train to Temple Meads via Brabazon and Filton Abbey Wood, particularly if it was faster?
From https://www.passenger.chat/SVB.html but I'm not convinced by accuracy of ticketing over the years

| Re: Derailment at Goodrington In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371178/31459/24] Posted by stuving at 22:48, 17th January 2026 | ![]() |
Thanks to this thread I discover I'm hazy about where the national rail system ends in that part of the world and where the heritage rail begins.
Well .... it's complicated. While the the train derailed on top of the crossover that links the two railways (but not because of the points), the whole crossover is Network Rail's. They also own/are responsible for a short stretch of the DSR's route (the Down Torbay) including the crossover and the level crossing (so they have the whole of both). Consequently DSR have running powers over that six chains or so!
Looking at Google earth there is a catch point there and probably what failed. The view also show the shocking state of the network rail side compared with the Dartmouth Steam Railway
I can barely see that on the satellite picture, even knowing exactly where it is now - so you're doing well if you spotted it there. It's clearer if you zoom in on the Street View from the bridge (further than Google can). The catch point is also marked on Traksy.
Looking at the pictures on Railforums, the outer rail has come apart at the joint just after the catch point. So it looks more like that failure was the cause, though none of the track there is in impressive condition. Note this is well before the trailing point of the crossover; roughly opposite the point on the Down side.
| Re: MetroWest services begin In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [371177/25753/21] Posted by Noggin at 22:12, 17th January 2026 | ![]() |
An interesting question is what percentage of Severn Beach residents get off the train at intermediate stations before Temple Meads?
If a new north-to-east chord was put in place, would many actually prefer a train to Temple Meads via Brabazon and Filton Abbey Wood, particularly if it was faster?
As for trains across the diamond, don't GWR have some Class 387 services which terminate at Bristol Parkway? With a bit of extra wiring (and maybe some more platform) they could conceivably be terminated at Brabazon, freeing up platform space at Parkway.
| Re: Derailment at Goodrington In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [371176/31459/24] Posted by REVUpminster at 20:52, 17th January 2026 Already liked by trainbuff | ![]() |
Thanks to this thread I discover I'm hazy about where the national rail system ends in that part of the world and where the heritage rail begins.
Well .... it's complicated. While the the train derailed on top of the crossover that links the two railways (but not because of the points), the whole crossover is Network Rail's. They also own/are responsible for a short stretch of the DSR's route (the Down Torbay) including the crossover and the level crossing (so they have the whole of both). Consequently DSR have running powers over that six chains or so!
Looking at Google earth there is a catch point there and probably what failed. The view also show the shocking state of the network rail side compared with the Dartmouth Steam Railway














