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Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371625/31524/31]
Posted by johnneyw at 21:10, 26th January 2026
 
It's rather saddening to hear of the Bristol Stanford's closure.  I bought a map there a little before Christmas and there was no indication of it closing then. 
The news sparked a memory of when, a few years ago,  I was downstairs trying to pay for a map. Map and payment card in hand, I stood in front of the chap behind the till who was on a call casually talking to a friend or colleague.  Five minutes later and with me about to put the map down and leave, he finally finished the call and decided to take payment. 
The subject of the overheard phone call?  A meeting earlier that day to stress the urgency of boosting sales.

I also recall a visit to George's during the first term of my History A Level to order a recommended text book which I was told would be ordered in for me as there were none in stock at the time. I left my name and address to be contacted when it had arrived for me.  Fast forward two years, A level completed, end of year 6th form bun fight done and dusted and in the post comes a letter from George's informing me that my book had arrived.
I still passed my History A Level.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [371624/31359/18]
Posted by bobm at 20:45, 26th January 2026
 
The Leeds train, incidentally, left 26 minutes late but surpisingly left New St on time. No idea what held it up for so long at Temple Meads.

Official reason was "overcrowding/not enough wheelchair spaces".

Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [371623/569/25]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:42, 26th January 2026
 
Alterations to services between Liskeard and Looe

Due to flooding between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.
Train services running to and from these stations have been suspended. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 28/01/26.

Alterations to services between Liskeard and Looe
Due to flooding between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.
Train services running to and from these stations have been suspended. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 01/02/26.

Re: Standedge railway tunnel: fire
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371622/31521/51]
Posted by JayMac at 20:41, 26th January 2026
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Some pictures of the scene from West Yorkshire Fire & Rescue Service.

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Shops selling maps and books
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371621/31524/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:39, 26th January 2026
 
Here in Nailsea, we used to have two excellent book and map shops. One was run by Mr C***, selling maps, and the other - literally across the High Street - was run by Mrs C***, selling books.

Over the years, I bought many items from both establishments - Ordnance Survey maps for me, educational books for our child. When Mr and Mrs C*** retired, both premises closed: his became a hair salon, hers became part of a veterinary practice.

These days, I agree that the internet has overtaken such a physical maps or books High Street presence.

We have photos out of place - now prose too!
In "The Lighter Side" [371620/31527/30]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:34, 26th January 2026
 
From Northern Belle

From their sales blurb for their sold-out trip to the Races in March....

The Belle is scheduled to pull into Evesham station shortly after 11am, where a vintage steam train will be waiting to whisk you the last 15 miles to the racecourse.

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Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371619/31503/31]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:29, 26th January 2026
 
Scotland have been very successful with their new arrangement - so Police England. Why not?

Re: Driving licences and tests - ongoing discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371618/19893/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:18, 26th January 2026
 
Another update, from the BBC:

Free test for driver candidate after photo refusal

A learner driver, who was refused a driving test because the examiner said his face did not match the photo on his provisional licence, has been offered a free retest.

Yin Cheong William Shen, from Basingstoke, Hampshire, raised concerns about unconscious bias in identity checks following the examiner's decision in November.

His case was supported by his driving instructor and by Basingstoke MP Luke Murphy.

The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA), which has not acknowledged any error, said it would offer Shen a free retest this week.

Shen previously said the examiner's refusal left him "confused". He said: "It's the same photo as my passport, which caused no issues when I travelled this year."

His instructor Stephen Lambert said the examiner's decision was an "insult".

In a letter to Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander, Murphy said research showed facial recognition errors "can disproportionally affect individuals from certain ethnic backgrounds". The Labour MP said the incident reflected "wider public concern about the consistency and fairness of identity checks at test centres".

In a letter shown to the BBC by Shen's brother, a DVSA complaints officer said: "We do not tolerate any form of discriminatory behaviour including bias. We must take any threat of fraud through impersonation very seriously. It is clear that you feel you have not received the level of customer service you have every right to expect, and... on this occasion I am authorising a free retest for you."


Looking at those published images, I'm comfortable that they are all pictures of the same person - Yin Cheong William Shen.

Maybe I'm cynical, but I have noted that many large organisations - including State ones - tend to step back and distance themselves from their own previous 'official decision' when the BBC get hold of a story.  Here, "The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA), which has not acknowledged any error, said it would offer Shen a free retest this week."  So, while maintaining that they were not at fault, they've nevertheless effectively paid out.

That's my personal opinion, by the way, not the official view of the Coffee Shop forum. I wish Yin Cheong William Shen well in his belated driving test. CfN. [Image from here is not available to guests]


Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371617/31524/31]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 19:38, 26th January 2026
 
Unlike clothes, and particularly shoes, where I really do want to try things on for fit and feel, maps are relatively safe to buy online for delivery so I'm not surprised physical shops are struggling.  Having said that, I would still prefer to look at and compare foreign maps where they are an unknown quantity, as opposed to the UK where I'm familiar with what OS maps at every scale and the various town/city street map publishers' products look like.  Not enough of us to keep it economic though!

On a related note, I recently decided to update my 9 sheet A-Z maps of London (better than the classic A-Z book for some purposes) only to discover that they are no longer produced.  How long will the book survive?

Re: Bus station the most feral part of any town
In "The Lighter Side" [371616/31525/30]
Posted by grahame at 19:22, 26th January 2026
 
Bercy bus station Paris. Where travel vloggers fear to tread and I would imagine most  people who have to use it.

It has a reputation.  I am ... planning to take a passing through look later this year arriving on the train from Dijon.

Re: Bus station the most feral part of any town
In "The Lighter Side" [371615/31525/30]
Posted by Timmer at 19:14, 26th January 2026
 
Bercy bus station Paris. Where travel vloggers fear to tread and I would imagine most  people who have to use it.

Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371614/31503/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:07, 26th January 2026
 
City of London, apparently.  [Image from here is not available to guests]

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [371613/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 19:06, 26th January 2026
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Might be very useful to you in terms of charting performance/timings over an extended period?
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I am rather suspecting that performance records stretching back to the last decade would set me off on a tangent I can do without.

Re: Bus station the most feral part of any town
In "The Lighter Side" [371612/31525/30]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 18:56, 26th January 2026
 
Having travelled around the US by Greyhound in 1979 as teenager, I can attest to this in spades.

Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371611/31524/31]
Posted by froome at 18:54, 26th January 2026
 
In Bristol, we used to have the excellent Georges bookshops, on Park Street - there were three of them, on the left hand side walking up.

One of them was where I met Harold Wilson, who was there to sign copies of his book, 'The Governance of Britain'. I didn't buy one, I just offered him a sheet of paper - which he autographed: I remember saying to him, "Thank you, sir". I was with a group of fellow sixth-formers, who had all sneaked out of school simply to attend that book signing. [Image from here is not available to guests]



George's (note the placement of the apostrophe - we'll come back to that) was just one shop - 89 Park St - when I was a boy. Spent many happy hours there, exploring all four floors and multiple levels, and buying many a book. I think they over-expanded when they moved into 87 and 85, and then sadly rebranded as Blackwell's - the Oxford bookseller who had actually owned the business since the 1920's.

Why was the apostrophe where it was? Because it was William George's Sons Ltd. William, incidentally, started selling books in his uncle's bookshop at 26 Clare Street - more or less opposite Stanford's. He moved the business to Park St in either 1851 or 1871 (depending on who you believe). Perhaps he thought Clare St was a silly place for a bookshop?

Yes, I spent many happy hours in George's as well, and perhaps even more in Chapter and Verse, another bookshop which was on the opposite side of Park Street directly opposite George's.

I have also been to Stanford's in Bristol many times, and it was usually quite busy most times I visited, though obviously not everyone will be buying when they visit. The map basement was where I usually headed for. I did go to Stanford's about 10 days ago, to buy a specific map I wanted, only to find that they had just closed the basement as they had boxed up all the maps to be sent to their London store. I can feel a visit to London coming up soon.

Re: "Stone-roads" Weedon Bec
In "Railway History and related topics" [371610/31526/55]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 18:54, 26th January 2026
Already liked by Mark A, PrestburyRoad
 
Often when you had heavy loads going in one direction - the stone road making haulage easier.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [371609/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 18:50, 26th January 2026
 
Have we got any green ones yet?
As these are a stop gap, very unlikely to be repainted and the future of regional liveries is up in the air with the possible new GBR livery.

Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371608/31503/31]
Posted by JayMac at 18:50, 26th January 2026
 
What is the smallest police force in the UK based on number of warranted constables?

"Stone-roads" Weedon Bec
In "Railway History and related topics" [371607/31526/55]
Posted by Mark A at 18:25, 26th January 2026
 
A photo of Watling Street, so rather out of the Coffeeshop area, but useful as it shows rural road conditions at the turn of the 20th Century, albeit a road in quite good condition. Perhaps useful as a reminder of the nature of the roads people might encounter on leaving a railway station.

Also, that puzzle. A 'Stone-road', and just 700 yards of it. What were persons unknown up to with that...

Mark

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Bus station the most feral part of any town
In "The Lighter Side" [371606/31525/30]
Posted by matth1j at 18:22, 26th January 2026
 
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/bus-station-the-most-feral-part-of-any-town-20260126263703

THE bus station of every town and city is a wild, lawless place where society has broken down entirely and madness reigns, studies have confirmed.

Researchers found that any terminal where buses begin and end journeys inevitably, for reasons unknown, devolved into a post-apocalyptic Mad Max environment where the weak are prey for the strong and the 87 to Eyres Monsell never comes.

Professor Henry Brubaker, of the Institute for Studies, said: “Our findings won’t come as a surprise to any unfortunate souls who’ve found themselves in these shanties of the damned. McDonald’s after 11pm comes a notable second.

“All of the signs are wrong, there’s bird shit everywhere, every horizontal surface is coveed in spikes and the reek of piss is ever-present. They’re not so much vital parts of the public transport infrastructure as a preview of the nightmare to come.

“Pity anyone forced to use them on a daily basis. Herds of depressed commuters, all who know they’re only one wrong glance away from a riot kicking off? Protected only by their earbuds and their indifference? A grimy, vaping hell.

“The only way to escape these ghettos is to make a cursed deal with the sullen-faced wardens who despise them the most: bus drivers.”

Regular bus traveller Martin Bishop said: “Bus stations aren’t that bad. If you know a better place to buy 15 kilos of dog hair for two teeth, I’d like to hear it.”

Re: Splitting the Northern Line into two
In "Transport for London" [371605/31523/46]
Posted by eightonedee at 18:01, 26th January 2026
 
....or rename one "The Yerkes Line"!

Re: Number of police forces in England and Wales to be cut in major shake-up
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371604/31503/31]
Posted by eightonedee at 17:48, 26th January 2026
 
I could see an option of a Kent and Essex joining in a combined force, there is a lot of crime across the Thames with the bad guys making use of the Thames crossings and the current disconnection of the policing

Two objections to that ET!

1 - It seems that the Government's second main policy proposal, apart from amalgamation of the current county/regional forces, is that serious crime becomes the responsibility of a new FBI-style national serious crime body, who would presumably have this kind of organised criminality in their remit

2 - The communications between the two comprise just the Thames crossing - tunnel north-bound, Queen Elizabeth Bridge southbound, both notorious bottlenecks on the M25. Dealing with a major accident or incident (say) in Colchester from a special unit based in Maidstone, or vice versa doesn't bear thinking about, so you would probably have to duplicate facilities either side of the crossing, negating the savings from amalgamation. As pointed out in my previous post on this thread, police work is very much more than solving crimes, and dealing with major accidents is very much at the upper end of the rest of their work.

Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371603/31524/31]
Posted by eightonedee at 17:37, 26th January 2026
 
That sounds very much like what happened to Reading's main independent bookseller, William Smith (no relation!) that used to be in London Street. It suffered a major fire in the early 1970s, after which there was a big sale of fire-damaged stock. I acquired an almost undamaged 7th edition One Inch (1/63,630) unfolded OS sheet 178 (Dorchester) which in due course (about 10 years later) I framed and hung on my office wall. Somewhere in the house there's a slightly smoke-damaged copy of Monkhouse's Principles of Physical Geography I acquired at the same time.

The shop moved to (if I recall correctly) King's Road, and in due course was acquired by, and rebranded as, Blackwells too. It closed in the era when Waterstones effectively took control of the serious book market in the 2000s, but they kept a store at the University.

The old London Street store had a well-regarded second-hand department, but I think almost all its stock perished in the fire. The premises were the site of an early Quaker meeting dating back to the end of the 17th century.

Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371602/31524/31]
Posted by eXPassenger at 17:27, 26th January 2026
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In Bristol, we used to have the excellent Georges bookshops, on Park Street - there were three of them, on the left hand side walking up.

One of them was where I met Harold Wilson, who was there to sign copies of his book, 'The Governance of Britain'. I didn't buy one, I just offered him a sheet of paper - which he autographed: I remember saying to him, "Thank you, sir". I was with a group of fellow sixth-formers, who had all sneaked out of school simply to attend that book signing. [Image from here is not available to guests]


When George's closed I discovered that it had been a branch of Blackwell's since 1929 and had not been independent.

I too remember the old shop with its fascinating second hand department.  I still have a number of books I bought there.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [371601/31359/18]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 16:43, 26th January 2026
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Not 100% a propos, but I was amused last evening when I got on the 18.46 from Temple Meads to Montpelier.

This train - and you will see the tenuous connection to the topic, -  is often cancelled when I try to catch it due to lack of crew. I had come off the Plymouth - Leeds train on Platform 3, so it should have been a simple matter of stay put while the Leeds train shuffles off, and catch the Severn Beach train from the same platform. The minutes ticked by, ramps were obtained, a chap in a wheelchair got off and then the ramp was installed in a door at the other end of the train. Then, suddenly! Nothing happened. People shrugged. Someone cleared his throat. No-one went and no-one came. And then, over the wheezing rattle of the Vogager, the inevitable platform change was announced. So I joined the crowd hotfooting it to Platform 7, and just a few minutes later we were on our way.

The odd bit was the conductor's announcement. He apologised for the confusion. I thought he was going to explain why the Leeds train had delayed us and led to a platform change. What he actually told us was that our train had been cancelled and then uncancelled because he had been reallocated to another train but then another guard had come in on a later, delayed train thus allowing him to work our train. So that puts us in our place then!

The Leeds train, incidentally, left 26 minutes late but surpisingly left New St on time. No idea what held it up for so long at Temple Meads.

Re: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [371600/31355/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:35, 26th January 2026
 
Thanks for your post, ChrisB.

The BBC have now improved their graphic in that article:

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Probably best to keep away from the south coast this evening, if you can.  [Image from here is not available to guests]


Re: Splitting the Northern Line into two
In "Transport for London" [371599/31523/46]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 15:17, 26th January 2026
Already liked by Oxonhutch, PhilWakely, grahame, Ralph Ayres
 
I quite like the sound of 'City and South London Line' and 'Hampstead Tube'

Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371598/31524/31]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 15:15, 26th January 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, froome
 
In Bristol, we used to have the excellent Georges bookshops, on Park Street - there were three of them, on the left hand side walking up.

One of them was where I met Harold Wilson, who was there to sign copies of his book, 'The Governance of Britain'. I didn't buy one, I just offered him a sheet of paper - which he autographed: I remember saying to him, "Thank you, sir". I was with a group of fellow sixth-formers, who had all sneaked out of school simply to attend that book signing. [Image from here is not available to guests]



George's (note the placement of the apostrophe - we'll come back to that) was just one shop - 89 Park St - when I was a boy. Spent many happy hours there, exploring all four floors and multiple levels, and buying many a book. I think they over-expanded when they moved into 87 and 85, and then sadly rebranded as Blackwell's - the Oxford bookseller who had actually owned the business since the 1920's.

Why was the apostrophe where it was? Because it was William George's Sons Ltd. William, incidentally, started selling books in his uncle's bookshop at 26 Clare Street - more or less opposite Stanford's. He moved the business to Park St in either 1851 or 1871 (depending on who you believe). Perhaps he thought Clare St was a silly place for a bookshop?

Re: Stanfords - map shop(s)
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [371597/31524/31]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 14:54, 26th January 2026
 
Sad, but not surprised. I don't remember the Bristol store ever being very busy. It was on Clare Street, surrounded by bars and restaurants. There is a branch of Traifinders nearby, which could have sent some people their way, but overall it always looked a bit out of place.

 
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