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Re: TravelWatch SouthWest, 24th October 2025, Taunton - INVITE
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [367391/30939/34]
Posted by grahame at 21:26, 25th October 2025
 
May I also please add my own apologies for my non-attendance at the meeting?

No need - in fact totally logical for you with all the circumstance, and for some others too.

Re: Driving licences and tests - ongoing discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [367390/19893/51]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 21:23, 25th October 2025
 
My grandad (* 1908) had the most amazing driving licence. Every conceivable category including (what was then) tracked, road roller and trolley vehicle - and he never sat a test in his life.

Apprenticed as a motor mechanic in the late 1920s, he was sent out to the Post Office with his 3/6 to get a driving licence, (radio and dog licences were also available at the same counter) and off he went. Grandfather [sic] Clauses assured the rest, and he drove thus to his dying day.  Not behind the wheel, I must add.

Re: TravelWatch SouthWest, 24th October 2025, Taunton - INVITE
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [367389/30939/34]
Posted by bobm at 21:20, 25th October 2025
 
Your bad what?

Re: Driving licences and tests - ongoing discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [367388/19893/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:07, 25th October 2025
 
Purely for the record (and I may have posted this personal information before, on the Coffee Shop forum), I have a squeaky clean driving licence for manual and automatic vehicles, which I've held since August 1986.

It has stood me in good stead, enabling me to drive various delivery vans in a previous employment, for example.

Personally, I'm not a particular fan of automatics - but that's the way things are going, apparently.

My advice to any young driver applying for their driving test is to just go for it - with the current waiting lists, anything is better than nothing, and you can hopefully upgrade it at some time in the future.

CfN.

Re: Steam trains to return at Severn Beach
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [367387/29794/47]
Posted by johnneyw at 20:41, 25th October 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
I stumbled upon the Severn Beach Miniature Railway Facebook page today.  Quite a few recent posts, one of which went into some detail about the latest developments including their wait for planning permission, designing stations, rolling stock and an appeal for loan of excavation/fence posting equipment.  Seems that the Severn Beach steam dream is still alive.

Re: Driving licences and tests - ongoing discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [367386/19893/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:40, 25th October 2025
 
Another update, from the BBC:

What is driving the decision to learn in a manual or automatic car?



Caitlin Graham wanted to learn to drive in an automatic car as she hoped the test would be quicker to pass without having to get to grips with a gear box.

But the 22-year-old says she had little choice but to learn in a manual due to any available automatic instructors being more than 20 miles away.

Motorists have seen a quiet shift in how they drive in recent years - with one in three cars on UK roads now an automatic.

A quarter of driving tests in England, Scotland and Wales last year were taken in automatic cars.

The AA says the trend is being driven by the UK's ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars coming in 2030, as electric cars do not have manual gearboxes.

For new drivers, this presents a dilemma - whether to learn and take their test in an automatic or a manual car.

It is a decision that could affect the rest of their driving lives - pass your test in an automatic and you will forever be boxed into only driving automatics - or indeed electric vehicles. Pass in a manual, and you will have the freedom to pick and choose. But many young people say it is not a decision they are freely able to make. Some would-be automatic learners have complained about a lack of instructors and the higher cost of lessons.

Others feel the jeopardy of learning in a manual is just too high. With huge competition for driving test slots, and long waits to re-take for those who fail, some young drivers feel learning in an automatic is the only way out of the fail-rebook, fail-rebook doom loop.

When Caitlin moved back home to a "super rural" part of Cumbria after university she was eager to pass her driving test as quickly as possible. There is no public transport in her village and she wanted to get on with finding a job. But unable to get hold of an automatic instructor she went for manual and passed almost a year after her first lesson. She says it only took her sister, who learned to drive in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, five months to pass in an automatic.

But it is a common misconception that the automatic test is easier - the pass rate for the manual test is higher at 50.4% than automatic at 43.9%, according to Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) figures for the financial year ending 2025.

"People still need to make the right decisions at the right time - make the correct observations at the right time and drive at appropriate speeds," says Stewart Lochrie, chairman of the Approved Driving Instructors National Joint Council (ADIJC).


(BBC article continues)


Re: Thoughts, tangents, personal big data. May I bore you for my enjoyment?
In "Introductions and chat" [367385/30964/1]
Posted by grahame at 20:28, 25th October 2025
 
More philosophically, there are few things more sad and obsolete than code written for a long-dead computer system. All that time and effort spent crafting clever ways of doing something with that limited hardware, and a few years later you could buy a box to do the same thing for a few pounds.

But so many of those algorithms developed in user code are learning material for firmware which is learning material for code in hardware. I celebrate these building blocks onto which we can build magnificent applications and solve problems we could not solve without them.

I guess that's a 4014, in the photo with its trousers down!

We had a 4010 - too small to be very useful, a couple of 4014s and a 4016 with it's massive 25 inch screen in EC&M at Rolls-Royce in the eighties. I can just about conjure up the special smell of the 4361 Hard Copy Device in action, if I try really hard. In their latter years, we had the terminals souped up to run at 9600 baud.

Kids today: they don't know they're born...

Ah yes - my predecessor as the Tektronix sales rep for the West of England (Swindon to Penzance) sold you the 4010s.  I sold Rolls load of 4014-1 options 1, 30 and 34 when I moved from tech support into sales (with messages from many that technical people cannot sell!) .  Glad you found them far more productive than the smaller ones - none of which were MY sale to you 

The 4016 was quite a late addition to the Tek dumb screen range.  I recall when the very first one arrive at Heathrow and got dropped in its box off a forklift and I had to pop down to Heathrow to evaluate the damage as "the expert" on a device I have only seen up to that point on a brochure.

Learned a lot in my just-over-a-year in sales, the South West becoming the best in the country and the only one that made target.  British Aerospace, Westland Helicopters, Geothermal Energy Project a nd a number of other very interesting places with military links.  And of course Rolls!  My sales manager (RIP, Peter) supported me as I failed to make all the expected subsidiary targets like number of customers visited per day - I think I manage to do 42% of what the powers that be wanted.

P.S. Good on Brock for selling you the 4010s and perhaps the odd 4012 before the 4014 was released!

Re: TravelWatch SouthWest, 24th October 2025, Taunton - INVITE
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [367384/30939/34]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:02, 25th October 2025
 
May I also please add my own apologies for my non-attendance at the meeting?

Three things intervened, for me: I overslept, having had a full-on day yesterday re-configuring our kitchen; the weather forecast was crap and it was already raining here; then I saw that the Bristol <-> Taunton trains were severely disrupted.

Sorry if I sound to be a bit of a wimp, but I just decided that it was all too much of a faff.

My own thanks to JayMac for his texted offer of including me in a lift in his car back down to Taunton - unfortunately, some time after I actually read his message. My bad.

Re: TravelWatch Report 24.10.2025 / Journey to Taunton
In "Across the West" [367383/30971/26]
Posted by JayMac at 19:45, 25th October 2025
 
2C67 the 0800 from Cardiff Central to Exeter St Davids, did terminate at Highbridge & Burnham, arriving there at 0942. It turned back to form 2Z10, the 0936 Highbridge & Burnham - Cardiff Central, actually departing at 0955.

GWR then restarted the service from Taunton at 1000 as 2Z67 running to 2C67s schedule to Exeter St Davids.

Re: Thoughts, tangents, personal big data. May I bore you for my enjoyment?
In "Introductions and chat" [367382/30964/1]
Posted by grahame at 19:13, 25th October 2025
 
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Re: 25th October 2025 - Railbus returns to Cirencester
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [367381/30957/47]
Posted by grahame at 19:06, 25th October 2025
 
However, in light of the railbus’ return to Cirencester, the Old Station Experience event at Cirencester Town Station in Sheep Street will also now be open for an extra day on Sunday, October 26."

Thank you - I have just negotiated an extra day out (for Sunday) and will see if I can work out Sunday busses.

The timetabled Sunday train from Melksham at 08:38 to Swindon gets there at 09:02 ... and the bus from Swindon at 09:15 gets to Cirencester at 10:15.  Looks good

except

The Melksham train is replaced by a bus tomorrow ... which dawdles into Swindon after the 09:15 bus  has left.   Nice one!    Next bus to Cirencester gets there at 12:15.   4 hours, home to Cirencester - yuk.   How about driving for once?

By mid-morning Cirencester became impressively clogged with private vehicles: and at mid-day its car parks gridlocked. While the origin point of most of the people in those cars will not have been Kemble, that itself is shaped to some extent by available transport - and Kemble's still the local gateway to the national rail system.

Don't fancy that ... and as far as I can see, they don'e even bother to run a bus to Kemble to / from Cirencester on a Sunday.  And it's a bit far to walk.

Aborting my plans, I think. 

Re: Thoughts, tangents, personal big data. May I bore you for my enjoyment?
In "Introductions and chat" [367380/30964/1]
Posted by eXPassenger at 18:18, 25th October 2025
 
In 1982 I obtained executive committee approval to buy the first 12 IBM PCs for a major accounting firm, we already has some Apple IIs.  When the XT came out there was a special program on the diagnostics diskette to park the hard disk head before moving the machine.
I had an early Compaq Portable in the boot of my car for a week to see if the disk really could survive general use.

I remember that the New York office received a call from IBM marketing.  They said that sales were far, far higher than expectations and they wanted to know what they were being used for.

Re: 25th October 2025 - Railbus returns to Cirencester
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [367379/30957/47]
Posted by Mark A at 17:58, 25th October 2025
 
Visiting this today (full disclosure, in a vehicle, on a day when the M4 was closed between Tormarton and wherever, and took care to travel before things got completely silly).

The Cirencester station exhibition is a solid event with many volunteers on hand, tea, coffee, biscuits, pervasive access to the building site that is the interior of the station (and which housed an exhibition) and access also to the railbus - and at one point the organisers ran its engine, which sat there hunting in a conversational way.

It's certainly positive to finally see the building's interior as a work-in-progress.

By mid-morning Cirencester became impressively clogged with private vehicles: and at mid-day its car parks gridlocked. While the origin point of most of the people in those cars will not have been Kemble, that itself is shaped to some extent by available transport - and Kemble's still the local gateway to the national rail system.

With the cards falling slightly differently, there might now be a block of fast-charging equipment alongside at Kemble, and an appropriately scaled battery vehicle to shuttle back and forth to Cirencester, taking even less time for the trip than the 11 minutes booked to the 1950s railbus.

Not covered by the exhibition, a visit to one of the line's surviving masonry structures is a treat in terms of the quality of the work on display. Visiting the station building was a treat for different reasons - the bare bones of the interior often on display, the structure's brick core has gained various steel beams, and yet a sense in one upstairs room in particular of its significance in the year or so when the terminus at Cirencester was apparently very much a base for the team working on bringing the extension into existence, onward and through the Stroud Valley.

Oh, and thinking again of that railbus & wondering if there's another location that would be very much a fit for exhibiting it... ah... yes, but possibly much goodwill needs to be in place and then of course a bit of paperwork to tackle.

Mark


Re: HST to Fort William at Bath Spa 24/10/25
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [367378/30969/47]
Posted by bleeder4 at 16:57, 25th October 2025
 
It's a great experience. I always try and do it every year if I can, as well as the one to Inverness & Kyle. They're only going to Fort William twice next year, due to Royal Scotsman taking the path to Mallaig on Day 2. So I've booked on the one in March from Birmingham.

Looking at the return journey, which leaves Fort William at 9am, is quite an early start to have breakfast, check out of hotel and be at the station for a 9am departure.
Most passengers, as well as the train crew, stay at the Premier Inn as it's just a 5 minute walk across Morrison's car park to the station. So it's not actually too bad. One year I shared breakfast in the Premier Inn with the driver and guard, before they had to head off to the depot to get the train ready. Plus, Fort William station doesn't normally open until around 11 on Sundays, as the first train isn't until 11:41. So the station gets opened specifically for the charter passengers and then locked up again once we've left. Which is quite a fun experience.

Re: TravelWatch Report 24.10.2025 / Journey to Taunton
In "Across the West" [367377/30971/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:48, 25th October 2025
 
08:45 showing "cancelled", 08:56 to Exeter (and we know that Exeter is beyond Taunton) showing "on time".

The 08:56 - a slower train via Weston eventually ran, I understand, as far as Highbridge and Burnham; should have been indicated as "probably terminating short" on the board but there's a whole new topic there.

There might have been - in the end it ran all the way & was only 5 mins late

I am writing far more than planned here - posting in a minute but going to ask you reading this to add Saturday 7th March 2026 to your calendar for the next TWSW meeting - worth attending even if only half as good as yesterday, but yet early planning is already suggesting it will be twice as good!

All the Railway Bill contens to digest for a start....


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Re: Thoughts, tangents, personal big data. May I bore you for my enjoyment?
In "Introductions and chat" [367376/30964/1]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:32, 25th October 2025
 
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Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [367375/29711/14]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:27, 25th October 2025
 
Lasted until about 1100

Re: Caledonian MacBrayne ferries in Scotland
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [367374/30034/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:20, 25th October 2025
 
From the BBC:

Over £1m spent on sending Scottish ferry staff to Turkey



More than £1m has been spent sending CalMac and CMAL staff to Turkey to oversee the construction of four new ferries, a freedom of information request has revealed.

The two companies, which operate and manage Scotland's nationalised ferry networks, have spent £1,016,162 on remuneration, subsistence, accommodation, flights and car hires on staff visiting the Turkish yard since 2022.

The Scottish Conservatives, who obtained the figures, said taxpayers were being "left to pick up the tab" for the SNP's "ferries fiasco which has left islanders without the vessels they need".

CalMac and CMAL said their staff's work in Turkey was "vital" and "essential".

A CalMac spokeswoman said most of the money related to staff costs, including wages, which would have been paid regardless of where the crew were. She said the extra amount - £23,000 - was for travel and subsistence costs which covered flights to and from Turkey, hotel accommodation, and general subsistence costs.

CMAL also said the same wages would have been paid to its staff regardless of travel costs.

The Cemre shipyard in Turkey was awarded the contracts to build four new vessels worth more than £200m.

These vessels are the MV Isle of Islay - which is due in November and will operate on the Kennacraig to Islay route - the MV Loch Indaal, MV Lochmor and MV Claymore at six-month intervals after the first vessel's delivery.

CalMac sent eight staff to Turkey, spending £845,981, while £170,181 was spent on five CMAL employees.

One Ferguson Marine employee was also sent to Turkey but the costs were covered by CMAL.

The first of the Turkish ferries, MV Isle of Islay, was launched a year ago by Morag McNeill, the chairwoman of CMAL, in a ceremony at the Cemre shipyard.

The nationalised Ferguson Marine is currently building two separate ferries - the Glen Sannox and the still under construction Glen Rosa.

The costs of the vessels has risen to more than four times their original £97m price tag, and were pushed back for completion several times.

Tory transport spokeswoman Sue Webber said taxpayers were being forced to foot yet another hefty bill. "After squandering half-a-billion pounds on the Glen Sannox and Glen Rosa, ministers have blown another £1m flying staff to Turkey to keep tabs on the ferries being built there. Some project oversight is understandable after the huge problems with the Ferguson-built ferries - but this level of spending seems excessive."

Webber said the SNP had "betrayed islanders and taxpayers at every turn" by leaving remote communities reliant on out-of-date vessels while "letting costs spiral out of control for hard-pressed Scots".

"SNP ministers, who are responsible for Ferguson Marine, must finally provide the support the yard needs to compete, so that ferries can be built here in Scotland, not abroad," she added.

The CalMac spokeswoman said: "New vessels are an essential addition to the CalMac fleet and we are very much looking forward to MV Isle of Islay joining us next month. Staff and crew have been spending valuable time at the yard in Turkey carrying out vital work to support CMAL with the build process and to ensure that the vessel is built as specified, and meets all legal and classification standards. This is the same as the process involved for MV Glen Sannox before she joined the fleet."

She added that staff working in Turkey included marine and technical specialists as well as the senior crew who will be responsible for the vessel's safe passage to Scotland. "Their role includes the implementation of the important processes and procedures required to gain the necessary safety management and other certification needed to operate the vessel in UK waters," she added. "Thirteen brand new vessels will be joining CalMac by 2029 and will be of huge benefit to service resilience and reliability, to the benefit of all customers, including island communities."

A spokesperson for CMAL said: "CMAL is required on site throughout the build of vessels to provide essential quality assurance and supervision. Remuneration is the same regardless of the build location, and travel and accommodation costs are standard. These form part of the overall project budget, which remains on target."

A Transport Scotland spokesperson said: "As people would expect, CMAL has been and is continuing to work closely with the shipyard to reduce the time between delivery of each of the new vessels where possible. We expect delivery of MV Isle of Islay later this year and MV Lochmor was successfully launched on 23 August 2025 marking another construction milestone."


Re: Home to Taunton - options and fares from local stations
In "Fare's Fair" [367373/30958/4]
Posted by Mark A at 08:23, 25th October 2025
Already liked by JayMac, GBM
 
Good to meet you, and Finn too. His hearing might not be so good but I couldn't miss that the moment I picked up a biscuit his tracking systems locked on to me with an almost audible 'Snap'.

Mark

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [367372/29711/14]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:19, 25th October 2025
 
Cancellations to services at Evesham

Due to a fault with the signalling system at Evesham fewer trains are able to run on some lines.
Train services running through this station may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 09:00 25/10.

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Re: Waitrose related posts - split off from another topic
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [367371/30963/51]
Posted by eightonedee at 08:11, 25th October 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, GBM
 
Chris  - I would send the pension administrator a letter,  setting out the full history (your length of service, retirement date, and details of your correspondence so far) and tell them that if you do not get a satisfactory response within the next seven days you will refer the matter to the Pension Ombudsman. Send it by Recorded Delivery (or whatever they call it now), keeping a copy, and follow up immediately if they don't deal with it to your entire satisfaction in that time.

It's easy to find the Ombudsman online. I had a problem with one of my schemes and this spurred them into action.

Re: TravelWatch Report 24.10.2025 / Journey to Taunton
In "Across the West" [367370/30971/26]
Posted by grahame at 07:10, 25th October 2025
Already liked by Timmer, GBM
 
Return Journey - excellent company and catch up on the very busy 5 car 16:05 Taunton to Westbury; MarkA hope you connected easily to Bath.  I was offered and accepted a lift from a Devizes rep to TWSW who had parked at Westbury and then trained onwards; networking all the way to my front door - thank you for the list and so much more discussed.

The day as a whole?  There are so many informed and motivated people out there - but the whole travel and transport setup and its wider place in the community is so complex that it required continued supreme investment of time, effort and money to make it work, and often gets lead astray from the ideal because of where we are today, limited resources, and individual and political desires taking priority. We know what needs doing.

But, my goodness, there's so much that we're not doing and we're currently in such as state of flux that we have many questions unanswered about what and how we;re doing, and we have - at least locally - a train service that's so unreliable that people are walking away from it.  Witness even my use of bus and lifts yesterday.  And whilst we have talk of doing better, and some changes which have gone a bit in the right direction, overall we have an ongoing problem that's being kicked down the road; that may not be the intent, but it's the effect

Re: 25th October 2025 - Railbus returns to Cirencester
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [367369/30957/47]
Posted by grahame at 06:54, 25th October 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Timmer, GBM, eightonedee
 
From my feed


Re: Thoughts, tangents, personal big data. May I bore you for my enjoyment?
In "Introductions and chat" [367368/30964/1]
Posted by CyclingSid at 06:33, 25th October 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
My first meeting with computers was at school cutting bits of perspex to make a water powered computer. All I can remember was that if your feet got wet the answer was going to be wrong!

In the army I used mechanical predictors. Analogue was well suited to artillery/ballistic calculations. Remember an anti-aircraft predictor, weighing about a ton, which sat inside a radar (rainbow code name Yellow Fever). In the process of changing one the pivot on the lifting gear sheared, that was a call for new underwear.

TravelWatch Report 24.10.2025 / Journey to Taunton
In "Across the West" [367367/30971/26]
Posted by grahame at 06:30, 25th October 2025
Already liked by Timmer, JayMac
 
TravelWatch SouthWest at the Firepool Innovation Centre in Taunton
Friday 24th October 2025

For me - Inspirational.  A valuable day with so much to think about and learn from - both from speakers and from networking with colleagues - partners in the advocacy of better travel and transport.

I have posted onto the "How Stuff Works" board my raw notes - I have given them the briefest spell check once-over but otherwise raw and very much "Errors and Omissions Excepted".  My interpretation of what was said, selective in what inspired me and which I had time to note, and I may have got it wrong in some cases - hence not out there in public view.

TravelWatch SouthWest general meeting day - meeting running from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. - is so much more than those 4 hours for me. It's about the whole day's experience - the planning, the travel, the observation, the networking along the way. And if things go a bit wrong, so be it and there is the more learning from those very issues.

In a perfect world, 07:00 from home, 07:21 train from Melksham, 07:34 from Chippenham, 08:45 from Bristol Temple Meads, 09:17 into Taunton.  But there's no such thing as a perfect world.  I didn't even attempt the 07:21 train - the connection at Chippenham is just under the industry "official" 5 minutes and often fails; not worth the risk. Hindsight - Real Time Trains suggests it made with 75 seconds from arrival to departure at Chippenham yesterday, with both trains late which meant I would probably have been having kittens, and possibly by the time doors were released on one train they would have been closed on the other.

So - "risk assessed" (note how we have added that technical term over the years to our common-sense approach, I walked out of home at 06:45 for the 06:47 bus. The MyTrip App allows me to be drinking coffee and chatting with Lisa even as the bus tracks its way around Melksham Forest and Bowerhill and I only need to walk out to the bus stop as it comes down Pathfinder way. Much of the theme / comment on transport at the TWSW related to ever increasing efficiency, and making public transport as welcoming as private transport.

Bus more or less on time; I don't care if it was a minute or two late - the comfort of tracking has overtaken the watching of the seconds and wondering where it is of years gone by.  Stood on the pavement, under the street light, aware I was in dark clothes and needed to be seen; very clear arm out to stop the bus, arm only withdrawn once he indicated he was pulling in.  Fare £3 - before 9 a.m., so old git card of no use; not sure how the £3 / child fare none-discount that Faresaver give on senior cards before 9 a.m. works - something to do with distance: gee - I wish the fare system was simple and clear.

Six on board into Melksham Market Place where another six joined, and for once no stop at The Bear, but passenger who had been on the bus before I joined got off at Avonside. No stop at Blenheim House or Scholars Way but we did pick up before Shaw, drop off further passenger at Maven House and then pick up as we went through Whitely - transport friend also headed for TWSW amongst others. On through Atworth and then the "top road" past The Swan and through Bathford, again with multiple pickups.  A good illustration of how the odd passengers here and there and the local traffic on and off all come together to make a viable service. Murmurs suggested that being half term the bus was quieter than usual, and my observation somewhat dropped off once I was chatting with John.

The 271 inbound stops in Manvers Street opposite the railway station and makes for really good connection.  The outbound 271 (and 272, 273) does NOT call at Manvers Street ... but a story for another day.

As we arrived in Bath, a text message to tell me that a person had been hit by a train just outside Taunton, and that all trains were on stop. Experience suggests that when such things happen, it will take some hours before trains are running again.  However, the ticket office clerk (yes, an open ticket office at Bath Spa Station with is so helpful and re-assuring) told me that the 08:45 connection from Bristol was running and that we should catch the 08:06 to Bristol to connect into it. John and I were not sure whether to believe that the train was running, but as I'm a board member at TWSW it's incumbent on me to be there for the meeting even "in extremis". So carried on.

Why advise to catch the 08:06 though?  We caught the 07:47 as the first available train to Bristol - it always seems sensible to me to travel on the next available train to an intermediate change rather than wait - as advised and as official systems will offer - the train with the closest possible connection that's within the designated minimum change time.  It seems like a needless risk to watch a train go then have a greater rush to make the change.

An email from an admin lady at TWSW let me know of the "all stop" at Taunton - received on the train, and letting me know that she too was already stuck / stopped at Temple Meads.  Our unofficial networks and information systems ahead of the game again.

Anyway - into Temple Meads and (first thing) search for an onward departure board or member of staff; we knew to leave the platform (15) and look for screens in the subway - for first timers, finding your onward train can be interesting and not obvious at Bristol.  08:45 showing "cancelled", 08:56 to Exeter (and we know that Exeter is beyond Taunton) showing "on time".

We knew to find a member of staff on an excess ticket desk at Bristol on platform 3 - headed that way and as we did, I spotted [R] - TWSW lady and we discussed onward plans. She was pulling in a personal resource to get to Taunton - good on her to get to the job / far more important for her as the meeting admin than for me, but it left us wondering.  Man on ticket desk didn't know - "developing situation - listen our for announcements" and thank goodness John was with me because there was no way I could hear.  We looked at the option of getting the "Falcon" long distance coach at 09:00, but that's a 25 minute walk from Temple Meads, and then would have dropped us off in Taunton on the outskirts (need for further transport or a 2 mile walk to the venue) at 10:35.  A clue from the ticket man, and from a customer assistant on platform 3 doing assisted travel, that they were looking for buses for rail replacement, but had only been able to find 2 at short notice so far and they were both at the Taunton end ... writing this up on the basis of "what do I learn" - no complaint, just "what could be done better" to help the staff help the customers.  The 08:56 - a slower train via Weston eventually ran, I understand, as far as Highbridge and Burnham; should have been indicated as "probably terminating short" on the board but there's a whole new topic there.

What about John and me?  Angels come in all shapes and sizes; a really good friend and member here - THANK YOU - had been out and about and was coming to the meeting and came a long way off his plan (also disrupted by the rail chaos) in his car up to Temple Meads, and picked us up. I would say much more to show just how much that's appreciated, but it's hard to do so without disclosing details that are not mine to share.  I will say THANK YOU again.

And so - three humans and a hound out of Bristol and down the M5 to Taunton and a wonderful chance both to network catch up, and also to see and feel the M5 for the first time for me in - well - a number of years.  From around 08:50 in Bristol, we got to the venue somewhere around 10:00 - for once I dashed in without taking any photo, so I can't look back at a timestamp to give you an exact time.

With so many TravelWatch people coming to Taunton by train, and no trains running, the 11:00 meeting didn't start on time;  trains from Bristol and from Westbury (and probably Exeter too) did arrive soon thereafter - enough to start the meeting at 11:15 as it turned out, with other arrivals up to 11:45 and a number of people - totally understood - taking the step (sensible for them / not meeting admins, etc) deciding to give the meeting a miss.   Several of them here - you missed an excellent meeting and a good opportunity to Network - but missing the meeting won't have been pivotal in our campaigning and it was a good call.

The TWSW admin team, and the staff at the Firepool Centre, did a professional job - and in the case of the TWSW ladies, that was in the extreme of a moving situation and damage limitation - full credit to them too.

I am writing far more than planned here - posting in a minute but going to ask you reading this to add Saturday 7th March 2026 to your calendar for the next TWSW meeting - worth attending even if only half as good as yesterday, but yet early planning is already suggesting it will be twice as good!

Edit to correct typo

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [367365/30953/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:43, 24th October 2025
Already liked by TaplowGreen, GBM
 
Those living in man-made underground bunkers - in Minehead, just for example - please note. 


Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [367364/30953/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 22:38, 24th October 2025
 
From the BBC:

First snowfall of season possible for some as weekend cold snap arrives

Temperatures across the UK are set to fall this weekend, triggering the first snowfall of the season for some areas.

This coincides with the end of British Summer Time as the clocks go back with the weather reflecting the shift towards a more wintry feel.

Temperatures will be below average with strong, gusty winds making it feel especially cold and raw.

This change in weather is driven by the position of Storm Benjamin in the North Sea, drawing down a cold Arctic northerly airflow across the UK.

(BBC article continues)



Before people in Wiltshire and Somerset etc start panic buying heating equipment, ordering teams of huskies etc it's probably worth noting what the "BBC article continues" to say......

"If showers fall over high ground - mainly above 400m - there is the chance these will turn to snow.

This is most likely over the highest ground in Scotland where a few centimetres of snow accumulation are possible.

There may also be a touch of wintriness over the highest hills of northern England, Wales, and Northern Ireland"

......so we shouldn't need to prepare to he digging each other out of snowdrifts just yet.

Don’t panic, Captain Mainwaring.

Re: Asylum seeker guilty of hotel worker's savage murder at Bescot Stadium station
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [367363/30968/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 22:25, 24th October 2025
 
As so often, Newsthump nails it........

Re: Thoughts, tangents, personal big data. May I bore you for my enjoyment?
In "Introductions and chat" [367362/30964/1]
Posted by paul7575 at 22:20, 24th October 2025
 
First desktop computer I ever used was about 1978 or 79, an HP9845 on the County class HMS London.  It was primarily used to display received data link info from the more modern ships (with their computerised ops rooms), but when not in use for that purpose it had some basic administrative uses.

By 1982 we were using dumb terminals and PDP11s (I think?) for networked admin tasks on ships.

But now that I’m into my 70s, at least I can refuse to accept the stereotype that us ‘oldies’ know nothing about computers.  In the mid 80s from my recollection it wasn’t really kids buying home PCs, but us parents…

Paul

 
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