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Re: Rail Replacement bus - OK, but I prefer the train.
Posted by LiskeardRich at 09:25, 4th January 2025
 
The 4 vehicles my employer are supplying from down here in Devon for this rail replacement do have toilets! You just got unlucky having one without a loo I guess

Maybe - or maybe I didn't look enough.  Whole variety of coaches at Trowbridge and I suspect the one with loos may have been in use on the longer (Salisbury) runs.

The white Truronian Mercedes in your photo doesn’t have a toilet.

Ours are the blue Megabus branded Interdecks. Toilet is located on the middle stair case. 

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by grahame at 08:45, 4th January 2025
 
Mark, I do admire wholeheartedly your optimism - but there is no way you will get any new level crossing, anywhere.

Portishead found that out - the hard way. 

Chris. 

But if you call it a "Tramway" you might do better?   Haven't Blackpool, Edinburgh and Manchester been able to expand in the current ere? The Chur to Arosa service is an interesting potential precedent and now that we're outside the EU just like Switzerland ...

Re: Mining in Cornwall
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:10, 4th January 2025
 
Now this is remarkably topical, as I have just this moment been able to ask my daughter to measure my own horizontally outstretched arms, finger-tip to finger-tip, even while she is cooking a late-night snack. 

She gave the answer as 182 centimetres - which I promptly converted to 72 inches, in old money.

Therefore, I am the traditional fathom wide.

Chris.

The things some people get up to in the early hours! 

Re: Mining in Cornwall
Posted by PrestburyRoad at 05:39, 4th January 2025
 

A somewhat similar device was used to move persons and light packages from one floor to another in a large factory or works, known as a "vertical conveyor belt"


A similar principle to the Paternoster lift.


Yes, it is in my view regrettable that Paternoster lifts are now virtually extinct in the UK.
Sheffield university has one, said to be the largest in the world, and Imperial College, London had one that was reputedly taken out of use after a fatal accident, and AFAIK a hospital still has one but for staff use only, not open to the public.

A variety of foolish pranks may be played including going over the top, and then performing a handstand so as to confirm the urban myth that going over the top inverts one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-south-yorkshire-42997131
Great fun


An small industrial paternoster lift that is alive and well and can be seen in the branch of McDonalds on Praed Street nearly opposite Paddington station.  It lifts food from the kitchen in the basement.  It's new - it would have been installed in the past year or so when the branch was opened.  The floor of each lift platform is like a comb, which passes through a fixed facing comb at servery level, and the food item gently slides from the platform to a holding area, from which staff assemble the the customer's order.  I was impressed at how this makes excellent use of space in the confined site.

Update on collapsed Bridgewater Canal
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 02:31, 4th January 2025
 
From YouTube: 30 minutes

As an ex-narrowboater myself, I feel every sympathy for them.

CfN.

Re: Mining in Cornwall
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:22, 4th January 2025
 
Now this is remarkably topical, as I have just this moment been able to ask my daughter to measure my own horizontally outstretched arms, finger-tip to finger-tip, even while she is cooking a late-night snack. 

She gave the answer as 182 centimetres - which I promptly converted to 72 inches, in old money.

Therefore, I am the traditional fathom wide.

Chris.

Re: Mining in Cornwall
Posted by broadgage at 23:55, 3rd January 2025
 
I'd forgotten the length of a fathom. Reminded of it by the discovery that the name comes from an old word meaning 'Outstretched arms'.

Mark

Peoples arms have on average got longer, and finger tip to finger tip is now nearer 2 metres than 2 yards, in many cases.

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by bradshaw at 22:43, 3rd January 2025
 
I do not believe it is realistic to expect the railway to reopen, despite ‘proposals’ by some groups.

https://www.facebook.com/maidennewtonbridportrailway/?locale=en_GB

https://www.bridportnews.co.uk/leisure/bestofbridport/19009071.community-railway-plan-bridport/

 David Shepherd looked at buying it just after the closure. The sticking point then was the cutting at Wytherstone which was in clay and slipping, which continues to this day and is part of the Nature Reserve.
Dorset Council seems to have a long term plan to make a cycle path over it but progress is slow. The section between Toller and Maiden Newton is being discussed with the farming community.
https://dorchestertransport.org.uk/2024/11/cycleway-on-former-railway-line-from-maiden-newton-to-bridport/
If they can get this opened then it will be possible to cycle from Maiden Newton to Loders. There are also plans to get some of the trackbed as a cyclepath from Loders to Bridport but it will not follow all the previous alignment.

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:24, 3rd January 2025
 
Mark, I do admire wholeheartedly your optimism - but there is no way you will get any new level crossing, anywhere.

Portishead found that out - the hard way. 

Chris. 

Re: Warnings of snow, wind and rain across the UK for New Year
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:17, 3rd January 2025
 
I'm not going to even try to quote anything specific from this BBC item - it's being updated continuously.

Please: let's all be careful out there! 

Chris.

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by Mark A at 22:15, 3rd January 2025
 
**snip**
The plan is to remove the bridge and raise the level of the road to reduce the risk of future flooding. It is only the second bridge to have been removed, the other was by Powerstock station which was done to allow access to a farm for HGVs bringing cattle feed etc to it.

Second best to a bridge* might be to raise the road to trackbed level, flat crossing of the forthcoming shared use route with priority for the latter and a 'Give way' for users of the road. Road users stay dry, shared use path benefits from the lift in status, and also a continuous route.

Mark

*IMHO

Re: Rail Replacement bus - OK, but I prefer the train.
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:13, 3rd January 2025
 
Were you expected to jog up & down and sign autographs after disembarking? 

Re: Rail Replacement bus - OK, but I prefer the train.
Posted by JayMac at 20:39, 3rd January 2025
 
Last time I got on a rail replacement service at Westbury it was a very comfortable executive coach whose day job was as Taunton Town FC's team transport.


Re: Rail Replacement bus - OK, but I prefer the train.
Posted by grahame at 20:18, 3rd January 2025
 
The 4 vehicles my employer are supplying from down here in Devon for this rail replacement do have toilets! You just got unlucky having one without a loo I guess

Maybe - or maybe I didn't look enough.  Whole variety of coaches at Trowbridge and I suspect the one with loos may have been in use on the longer (Salisbury) runs.

Dilton Marsh - spring 2025 timetable
Posted by grahame at 20:06, 3rd January 2025
 
I visited Dilton Marsh yesterday and it's good to see a now-decent timetable on display





However, the station is closed until 24th January and any indication of what time the rail replacement bus are running is notable by its absence



Researching online at 12:30 (everyone in Dilton Marsh has a mobile phone, right?), I was disappointed to learn that there was no bus to replace the 12:37 train, and the bus to replace the 13:37 train wasn't due until 13:50 which meant it would miss the bus from Westbury to Melksham.  Oops.

Re: Rail Replacement bus - OK, but I prefer the train.
Posted by LiskeardRich at 20:02, 3rd January 2025
 
The 4 vehicles my employer are supplying from down here in Devon for this rail replacement do have toilets! You just got unlucky having one without a loo I guess

Re: Outstanding server / web site issues
Posted by Kernow Otter at 19:22, 3rd January 2025
 
Just wanted to say a 'Thank you' for all the effort that has gone into this.

Cheers

Re: GWR Advance Purchase sale - January 2025
Posted by ChrisB at 19:04, 3rd January 2025
 
You appear to have some engineering work down your way on the Sunday which will curtail the cheap fares

Re: GWR Advance Purchase sale - January 2025
Posted by Kernow Otter at 18:51, 3rd January 2025
 
Naivity perhaps, but trying to look for LOS - SWI on 14/3 returning on 16/3.  Have found an exceptional £ 11.00 out single, but the returns options are showing no advances of any time.

User error on my part, or should I leave it a few days to book?

Cheers all.

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by bradshaw at 18:48, 3rd January 2025
 
The trackbed from Toller to Barrowlands Lane has recently been upgraded and a sloped path now leads down to the lane. From here you can access the trackbed at the adjacent Powerstock Nature Reserve all the way to Loders, with a pit stop at the Marquis of Lorne at Nettlecombe!
The lane by the bridge floods whenever there is heavy rain, largely caused by run off from a nearby farm.
The plan is to remove the bridge and raise the level of the road to reduce the risk of future flooding. It is only the second bridge to have been removed, the other was by Powerstock station which was done to allow access to a farm for HGVs bringing cattle feed etc to it.

Eurostar flash sale - January 2025
Posted by grahame at 17:19, 3rd January 2025
 
From The Metro

Eurostar announces flash sale with cheap trains to Paris, Lille and more

If you’re planning a getaway, Eurostar is often the most convenient way to get to the continent, with trains running to popular city break destinations like Paris, Lille and Amsterdam.

And now, to help you beat those January blues, the train company has launched a huge flash sale, with £35 off selected routes.

But, you’ll have to be quick. The sale will last for less than a week, from January 3 to January 9.

article continues

Newquay train, St Blazey photo
Posted by Mark A at 14:39, 3rd January 2025
 
The link's to Facebook. The photo is from one Craig Munday. There cannot be many places where a passenger service calls at a manual signal box at the platform of a disused station in order to pick up a (virtual?) token for onward travel and the photographer was lucky enough to encounter exceptional weather conditions and lighting.

Mark

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10162847613639769&set=gm.1361702471907741&idorvanity=384010423010289

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by Hal at 14:36, 3rd January 2025
 
If they remove the bridge, I suppose that would be the end of the proposal to reopen the railway right through to Maiden Newton.

Re: Rail Replacement bus - OK, but I prefer the train.
Posted by Kempis at 13:51, 3rd January 2025
 
We travelled from Salisbury to Bristol on Sunday afternoon, taking the rail replacement service from Salisbury to Trowbridge. Everything worked well and ran to time (the coach making quite prolonged stops at Warminster and Westbury), and the train at Trowbridge was waiting at the platform, ready for us to board when the coach arrived. Since we had many bags, I was relieved that the vehicle was a coach, with a luggage compartment under the seats, rather than a bus.

Re: Rail replacement advise - Melksham - until 23rd January 2025
Posted by matth1j at 13:45, 3rd January 2025
 
BTW I also asked Faresaver about the possibility of using one of their double deckers for the first 271 Melksham-Bath which I've been catching intermittently in my commute to Bristol, instead of the 100% train (or replacement bus) option. The single decker 271 is full before it reaches Bath which puts me off using it, and they do use a double for at least one service (1715 Bath-Melksham).

Just got a response from 'a director':

It is the case that the number of passengers travelling on this route has increased significantly as a result of the £2 fare cap, which has been running throughout 2024. It is difficult to make enhancements to services based on schemes which are of a short-term nature, such as the £2 fare scheme. This has now increased to £3 for 2025 and we will monitor usage levels over the coming weeks to ascertain if there is scope to increase the frequency of buses between Bath and Devizes.

We use double decks vehicles on certain days, such as when there are events in Bath which lead to increased usage, but again it is difficult to justify expenditure on new double deck vehicles costing £300,000 each, where schemes designed to encourage usage are only short-term schemes. We are encouraging local and central government to provide more concrete long-term funding plans to give operators the confidence to invest in larger vehicles and enhance the frequencies of services.

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by grahame at 12:03, 3rd January 2025
 
From the Dorset Echo

Toller Porcorum: Barrowland Lane rail bridge to be removed

Plans are finally in motion to remove a historic railway bridge near a west Dorset community so that a road blighted by flooding can be repaired and relevelled.

continues ...

Always sad to see old infrastructure go - especially where there has been discussion as to a potential future rail use.

Re: Outstanding server / web site issues
Posted by grahame at 10:49, 3rd January 2025
 
I wasn't able to quote or reply to anything yesterday, but this seems to be resolved now

yes - that was probably to do with this:

Second, the workhorse system has for some time had traps in there to row back if it gets silly numbers of requests from a single place. I have had to lift the definition of a "silly" number since nearly all requests are now coming from the receptionist server; earlier today it was screwed down a bit hard and members were being directed to the status server far too often.

Re: Outstanding server / web site issues
Posted by Phantom at 10:45, 3rd January 2025
 
I wasn't able to quote or reply to anything yesterday, but this seems to be resolved now

 
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