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Promoting cycling to less frequent users In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [365415/30710/50] Posted by CyclingSid at 11:51, 10th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
"Dublin City Council has recruited three social media influencers to try to persuade teenage girls that cycling can be cool and fun." https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2025/0910/1532646-cycling-girls/
Thoroughly to be applauded, and should be copied elsewhere.
But you do need to provide the infrastructure to support it. https://road.cc/content/news/cyclist-killed-hgv-driver-council-says-junction-safe-315793
End on a more positive note the London Tube strike has encouraged more to get on their bikes https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-10-september-2025-315837. "Increased demand proof that better, wider cycleways needed", well that will get the taxi drivers going!
Re: London Underground - industrial action by RMT, early September 2025 In "Transport for London" [365414/30605/46] Posted by TaplowGreen at 11:42, 10th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
They are saying that they've seen an internal memo about closure of Elizabeth Line ticket Offices?
From the article..............
"However, a TfL spokesman told The Standard on Tuesday: “There are no plans to close ticket offices.”
OpenRailwayMap In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365413/30709/51] Posted by Red Squirrel at 11:27, 10th September 2025 Already liked by rogerw | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I suspect that many forum members will already know about this, but I was recently directed to a very useful resource: OpenRailwayMap (https://openrailwaymap.org)
As well as giving what appears to be a good up-to-date map of the railway network, it also has some very useful additional data such as lines speeds, ELRs, signalling, electrification status etc. Those winter evenings will fly by!
Re: London Underground - industrial action by RMT, early September 2025 In "Transport for London" [365412/30605/46] Posted by ChrisB at 11:14, 10th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
They are saying that they've seen an internal memo about closure of Elizabeth Line ticket Offices?
Re: London Underground - industrial action by RMT, early September 2025 In "Transport for London" [365411/30605/46] Posted by TaplowGreen at 11:09, 10th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Not content with the chaos they are causing to people trying to get to work, school, hospital appointments this week (for which the RMT are deservedly getting a hammering across all media channels), there is more in prospect........
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/rmt-threatening-sustained-industrial-action-on-elizabeth-line/ar-AA1Mckj5?ocid=socialshare
Re: Weston-super-Mare - Birnbeck Pier plan 'in jeopardy' as RNLI pulls out - June 2025 In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [365410/30411/31] Posted by johnneyw at 11:04, 10th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
If it was to be saved it needs to be controlled by someone with real financial clout, and that it above council level and would need a private investor, which lets face it are not going to touch it with a barge pole
Is my memory playing tricks on me or was there once, long ago, a suggestion of putting a casino on the island with the company concerned paying for the whole thing?
Re: Weston-super-Mare - Birnbeck Pier plan 'in jeopardy' as RNLI pulls out - June 2025 In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [365409/30411/31] Posted by Phantom at 10:36, 10th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think Birnbeck's the only option for the RNLI to be able to launch into actual water at all states of the tide. Plopping down into deep mud quite some distance from the sea isn't really their thing.
Mark
Mark
I am amazed how the current operation works from Marine lake.
When it is low tide, there is, what I would describe as an amphibious tractor, it moves slower than walking pace and carries the boat to launch.
I was sat having a meal in a pub overlooking the lake, and was amazed how slow and long it took to get the boat to the point in Madeira Cove where it launched from, it was easily over 20 minutes....
All I would say I would hate to rely on this to survive
Re: Weston-super-Mare - Birnbeck Pier plan 'in jeopardy' as RNLI pulls out - June 2025 In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [365408/30411/31] Posted by Phantom at 10:33, 10th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I know this may cause offence to some, but when I look at the picture above, I think the best thing that can be done to Birnbeck pier is to dismantle it. Of course that won’t happen because it’s listed so it will remain continuing to decay.
Regretfully, I agree. Restoration is certain to take a lot longer and cost a lot more than originally forecast. And unless a complete re-build is contemplated, then the underlying structure will remain vulnerable to rot, rust, and extreme weather.
As a born an bred (since 1974) Westonian, I would say most of us down here have felt this was always the likely outcome anyway, the "noise" made about wanting to restore it never really felt like any traction.
There is / was a group set up that arranged events to fundraise, they used a social club I was on the committee of for many events, I was shocked how small the events were and how little was raised.
It was actually hard to watch as these die hard supporters of the pier had the best intentions but they were so far off where they needed to be.
If it was to be saved it needs to be controlled by someone with real financial clout, and that it above council level and would need a private investor, which lets face it are not going to touch it with a barge pole
I think Birnbeck's the only option for the RNLI to be able to launch into actual water at all states of the tide. Plopping down into deep mud quite some distance from the sea isn't really their thing.
Mark
Re: Solent Tunnel, between Hampshire and the Isle of Wight In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [365406/30657/28] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 09:53, 10th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A gentle 'bump' from me, for this poll, in case anyone hasn't cast their vote yet.

Re: No trains will call Gloucester 27 September- 5th October 2025 In "Cross Country services" [365405/30703/43] Posted by grahame at 08:48, 10th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Dear Graham,
Between Saturday 27 September and Sunday 5 October, Network Rail will be undertaking crucial signalling upgrades at Gloucester signal box. The signal box controls trains travelling from Bristol, Worcester, Swindon and South Wales, so it’s essential it remains in good working order.
As a result, all train services to and from Gloucester, extending to include the wider region at weekends, will be impacted and rail replacement services will be in place for the following:
Cheltenham Spa and Gloucester – all dates
Worcester Foregate Street and Gloucester – weekends
Bristol Parkway and Gloucester – weekends
Kemble and Gloucester – Saturdays
Swindon and Gloucester – Sundays
Cam & Dursley and Gloucester – Monday to Friday
Trains between London Paddington/Swindon and Cheltenham Spa or between Bristol Temple Meads and Worcester still run Monday to Friday but won’t stop at Gloucester.
CrossCountry train services between Nottingham and Cardiff Central will only run to and from Cheltenham Spa on weekends, or Birmingham New Street on weekdays. Other CrossCountry trains will still be running Monday to Friday between Birmingham New Street and the South West via Worcestershire Parkway and Cheltenham Spa. At weekends, these train services can only operate in the region between Bristol Parkway and Paignton, Plymouth or Penzance. Replacement buses are planned by CrossCountry between:
Cheltenham Spa and Bristol Parkway (non-stop) – weekends
Worcestershire Parkway and Ashchurch for Tewkesbury – Monday to Friday
Transport for Wales train services will only run between Cardiff Central and Lydney instead of Gloucester or Cheltenham Spa on all dates, with replacement buses planned between Lydney and Gloucester.
As an alternative to replacement transport, Stagecoach will also accept valid rail tickets for travel on certain routes - please visit gwr.com/upgrade for more information and to see a map of the works.
All changes have been uploaded into online journey planners and we’re also making customers aware at stations and on board through announcements, station posters, and both traditional and social media.
Please get in touch if you have any questions and we would be grateful for any support you can provide in cascading this to your networks.
Kind regards,
Olivia & Heledd
Between Saturday 27 September and Sunday 5 October, Network Rail will be undertaking crucial signalling upgrades at Gloucester signal box. The signal box controls trains travelling from Bristol, Worcester, Swindon and South Wales, so it’s essential it remains in good working order.
As a result, all train services to and from Gloucester, extending to include the wider region at weekends, will be impacted and rail replacement services will be in place for the following:
Cheltenham Spa and Gloucester – all dates
Worcester Foregate Street and Gloucester – weekends
Bristol Parkway and Gloucester – weekends
Kemble and Gloucester – Saturdays
Swindon and Gloucester – Sundays
Cam & Dursley and Gloucester – Monday to Friday
Trains between London Paddington/Swindon and Cheltenham Spa or between Bristol Temple Meads and Worcester still run Monday to Friday but won’t stop at Gloucester.
CrossCountry train services between Nottingham and Cardiff Central will only run to and from Cheltenham Spa on weekends, or Birmingham New Street on weekdays. Other CrossCountry trains will still be running Monday to Friday between Birmingham New Street and the South West via Worcestershire Parkway and Cheltenham Spa. At weekends, these train services can only operate in the region between Bristol Parkway and Paignton, Plymouth or Penzance. Replacement buses are planned by CrossCountry between:
Cheltenham Spa and Bristol Parkway (non-stop) – weekends
Worcestershire Parkway and Ashchurch for Tewkesbury – Monday to Friday
Transport for Wales train services will only run between Cardiff Central and Lydney instead of Gloucester or Cheltenham Spa on all dates, with replacement buses planned between Lydney and Gloucester.
As an alternative to replacement transport, Stagecoach will also accept valid rail tickets for travel on certain routes - please visit gwr.com/upgrade for more information and to see a map of the works.
All changes have been uploaded into online journey planners and we’re also making customers aware at stations and on board through announcements, station posters, and both traditional and social media.
Please get in touch if you have any questions and we would be grateful for any support you can provide in cascading this to your networks.
Kind regards,
Olivia & Heledd
Use of Birnbeck pier was no doubt convenient for the RNLI as it gave access to the lifeboat house from which the lifeboat could be launched quickly and easily.
It was therefore reasonable for the RNLI to make a LIMITED contribution to the costs of maintaining or repairing the pier. They are presumably reluctant to accept liability for for unknown future costs.
A new lifeboat house would be cheaper.
Re: The Consultation is On! In "Fare's Fair" [365403/19894/4] Posted by grahame at 03:44, 10th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Remember - 10th September 2018 is the closing date of the real consultation.
And, seven years later .... I still found myself explaining far too many overlapping and complex options on something as simple as a day out to Weymouth, offered a headline single fare Bristol to Melksham that's three quarter of the cost of a whole day out that took me to Swindon, to the Severn and to Weymouth, and refused as the barrier at Bath Spa on a barcoded and valid ticket sold that same morning on the train from Melksham, almost missing my bus as a result.
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Should now work at https://grahamellis.uk/writings/hm974.html ... adding in other work there over the next couple of days so you may see occasional changes as the archive arrives, and perhaps errors as I test new lumps of code
Re: [otd] 9th September 2006 - Last commuter train (for over 7 years) to Melksham In "TransWilts line" [365401/29131/18] Posted by grahame at 02:53, 10th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Re: Northern Powerhouse Rail - plans for east to west high speed rail links In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365399/30707/51] Posted by Kernow Otter at 22:59, 9th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Have long thought that the better use of funds would be to 'level up' the whole of the network before embarking on new builds. Electrification, line speed improvements, fully regional freight facilities, service frequency....
When everywhere is at the same level, then perhaps invest in high speed lines.
Re: Camping coaches In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [365398/22085/47] Posted by eightonedee at 22:43, 9th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
..or, in East Yorkshire, Skipwith Station - https://www.skipwithstation.com/skipwith-railway-carriage-accommodation-york/
Re: [otd] 9th September 2006 - Last commuter train (for over 7 years) to Melksham In "TransWilts line" [365397/29131/18] Posted by matth1j at 22:42, 9th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Re: Northern Powerhouse Rail - plans for east to west high speed rail links In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365396/30707/51] Posted by eightonedee at 22:33, 9th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
"Across Europe, every other country connects its big cities by modern high-speed rail," said Greater Manchester's Labour mayor. "
Hmmm....the German purpose-built lines is very much a patchwork of partial links, with Munich lacking any complete high-speed line to any other major city. Better than the UK, but still nothing like France or Spain, for example.
Re: Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents and events - merged posts In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [365395/593/9] Posted by ChrisB at 20:31, 9th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The earliest that EWR was going to be ready was late this month - and its still slated for the December timetable, allowing further time for driver training & Winslow station fit out. It can still work on 2tph to MKeynes without the extra platform, using platforms 1 & 2
Re: When is the emergency alert test on mobile phones and can you opt out? In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365394/30696/51] Posted by Surrey 455 at 20:27, 9th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I received the alert as an alarm then followed by a message being read out in an English accent (with a bit of Welsh at the end).
This was on a Xiaomi phone which has a setting to turn on/off the alerts but doesn't appear to have a setting to customise the spoken bits. Two of my work colleagues confirmed that they received the alarm only without a spoken message.
Re: Weston-super-Mare - Birnbeck Pier plan 'in jeopardy' as RNLI pulls out - June 2025 In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [365393/30411/31] Posted by ChrisB at 20:16, 9th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Your answer - as a RNLI station, hence them putting that amount in?
if the 5th platform/ western station entrance isn't delivered then hasn't replacing the Botley Road bridge been a complete waste of money, certainly for rail and , given all the disruption, for Oxford itself?
Is there any point putting any more money into the railway industry, certainly in Oxfordshire, given the following:
A service pattern at Oxford that is worse than before Covid (XC , GWR and Chiltern) despite an increase in population.
Delays to running passenger trains on EWR despite the railway being open for nearly a year (alleged Union issues).
An incomplete extension to Oxford station.
An electrification scheme that is half complete.
How can the industry be stopped from continually over promising and under delivering?
As an outsider seems like the industry needs a complete shakeup.
Re: Camping coaches In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [365391/22085/47] Posted by Kernow Otter at 18:27, 9th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Westbury White Horse - historic Wiltshire landmark In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365390/30708/51] Posted by Timmer at 17:36, 9th September 2025 Already liked by Western Pathfinder | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It was always going to happen. Wouldn’t surprise me if it reappears again.
Re: London Underground - industrial action by RMT, early September 2025 In "Transport for London" [365389/30605/46] Posted by grahame at 16:59, 9th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Claire Mann, TfL's chief operating officer, said she was "bitterly disappointed" the strike went ahead, calling the demands "unaffordable and impractical".
Claire Mann, TfL's chief operating officer, said she was "bitterly disappointed" the strike went ahead, calling the demands "unaffordable and impractical".
Known to many of us as MD of SWR from 2020 to 2024. Thought the name looked familiar. She was in charge at SWR at the time they withdrew their trains from Bradford-on-Avon and Trowbridge.
Re: London Underground - industrial action by RMT, early September 2025 In "Transport for London" [365388/30605/46] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:49, 9th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
More Tube disruption as RMT union talks collapse

Nearly all London Underground services are suspended during the industrial action
Industrial relations on London Underground have "totally collapsed", a union leader has warned, amid a strike by Tube workers that virtually shut down the network.
It means travellers in London will continue to face disruption as thousands of members of the union take strike action over pay and working hours.
Rail, Maritime and Transport (RMT) union leader Eddie Dempsey said the negotiations became fruitless after the union uncovered Transport for London (TfL) plans to shut Elizabeth line ticket offices - something TfL denies.
Mr Dempsey said further disputes loomed over those alleged proposals as well as pay and conditions of cleaners.

Tube trains remained parked in depots on Tuesday, as the network came to a virtual standstill
With the exception of the Northern line, running a reduced timetable, all Tube services were suspended on Tuesday.
The Docklands Light Railway (DLR) has also shut down due to a strike by RMT union members as part of of a separate dispute.
TfL said it had made a "fair" pay offer of 3.4% and that the the union's demand for a shorter working week of 32 hours was "unaffordable".
Claire Mann, TfL's chief operating officer, said she was "bitterly disappointed" the strike went ahead, calling the demands "unaffordable and impractical".
London Mayor Sir Sadiq Khan said he urged the RMT to get around the table with TfL to resolve the dispute.
Downing Street has also called on the RMT union and TfL to get back to the negotiating table to end the strike.
People trying to get around the capital turned to buses, boats, bikes, cars and walking routes, with many struggling to reach their destinations.
BBC newsgathering journalists reported Elizabeth line, Overground, rail and walking routes to be far less busy than they were on Monday.
At the start of the working week, TfL said footfall on London Overground and Elizabeth line services increased by 31%, noting that these lines had likely been absorbing displaced Tube passengers.
Long queues were seen at bus stops in central London, while bike rental schemes Lime, Forest and Santander reported increased uptake on Monday.

Nearly all London Underground services are suspended during the industrial action
Industrial relations on London Underground have "totally collapsed", a union leader has warned, amid a strike by Tube workers that virtually shut down the network.
It means travellers in London will continue to face disruption as thousands of members of the union take strike action over pay and working hours.
Rail, Maritime and Transport (RMT) union leader Eddie Dempsey said the negotiations became fruitless after the union uncovered Transport for London (TfL) plans to shut Elizabeth line ticket offices - something TfL denies.
Mr Dempsey said further disputes loomed over those alleged proposals as well as pay and conditions of cleaners.

Tube trains remained parked in depots on Tuesday, as the network came to a virtual standstill
With the exception of the Northern line, running a reduced timetable, all Tube services were suspended on Tuesday.
The Docklands Light Railway (DLR) has also shut down due to a strike by RMT union members as part of of a separate dispute.
TfL said it had made a "fair" pay offer of 3.4% and that the the union's demand for a shorter working week of 32 hours was "unaffordable".
Claire Mann, TfL's chief operating officer, said she was "bitterly disappointed" the strike went ahead, calling the demands "unaffordable and impractical".
London Mayor Sir Sadiq Khan said he urged the RMT to get around the table with TfL to resolve the dispute.
Downing Street has also called on the RMT union and TfL to get back to the negotiating table to end the strike.
People trying to get around the capital turned to buses, boats, bikes, cars and walking routes, with many struggling to reach their destinations.
BBC newsgathering journalists reported Elizabeth line, Overground, rail and walking routes to be far less busy than they were on Monday.
At the start of the working week, TfL said footfall on London Overground and Elizabeth line services increased by 31%, noting that these lines had likely been absorbing displaced Tube passengers.
Long queues were seen at bus stops in central London, while bike rental schemes Lime, Forest and Santander reported increased uptake on Monday.
Re: [otd] 9th September 2006 - Last commuter train (for over 7 years) to Melksham In "TransWilts line" [365387/29131/18] Posted by grahame at 16:07, 9th September 2025 Already liked by matth1j | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A further year ...
http://www.wellho.net/mouth/974_The-last-commuter-train-through-Melksham.html
The last commuter train through Melksham
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* Biggest issue is still reliability. The weekend just gone there should have been 14 round trips, but only 7 ran. Passenger numbers up from 3,000 journeys per annum to / from Melksham to around 70,000 at present but it should be 400,000. 70,000 is a lot of journeys, but I still talk in the community to more people who don't use Melksham Station than who do, citing lack of reliability and thinness of timetable as their top two reasons to not do so. Third reason is unfriendliness of station access. No concerns over safety or comfort of train, nor at fare level.
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* Biggest issue is still reliability. The weekend just gone there should have been 14 round trips, but only 7 ran. Passenger numbers up from 3,000 journeys per annum to / from Melksham to around 70,000 at present but it should be 400,000. 70,000 is a lot of journeys, but I still talk in the community to more people who don't use Melksham Station than who do, citing lack of reliability and thinness of timetable as their top two reasons to not do so. Third reason is unfriendliness of station access. No concerns over safety or comfort of train, nor at fare level.
And how sad that GWR have not sorted out the reliability issue.

I have a lot of old material in the archives ... and I am starting to provide centralised secure access to them. First link to the 19 year old page with a lick of paint is at https://grahamellis.uk/writings/hm974.html
Westbury White Horse - historic Wiltshire landmark In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [365386/30708/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:41, 9th September 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
White horse checked for any damage caused by flag

A white horse carved into a hillside is being checked for damage after it was temporarily turned into a St George's flag.
Red fabric draped over the Westbury White Horse has now been removed, after being reported to English Heritage earlier. The body said it would assess whether the 175ft (53m) tall Wiltshire landmark had been damaged by pegs used to secure the fabric.
It is not clear who put the ribbon up or why - but it is not the first time this has happened. In 2018, red plastic was put up on the monument ahead of the England men's football World Cup semi-final match.
Thousands of St George's flags have appeared across England in recent months. While some football fans were flying them to cheer on the Lionesses during the 2025 Euros, many more flags have gone up in recent weeks.
Some groups responsible for putting them up have told BBC News they are motivated by pride and patriotism. But some people have said it feels provocative at a time when tensions are running high across England over the issue of immigration.

Speaking about the Westbury incident before the removal, an English Heritage spokesperson said: "Red fabric has been attached to the Westbury White Horse. We'll be removing it as soon as we can and seeing whether the pegs that were used have caused any damage to this much-loved historic landmark."
Westbury's white horse is said to be the oldest in Wiltshire. It was restored in 1778, but many believe it is much older than that.
Westbury Town Council said it was aware of the incident and Wiltshire Police said no criminal offences were thought to have been committed and the force was not investigating.

A white horse carved into a hillside is being checked for damage after it was temporarily turned into a St George's flag.
Red fabric draped over the Westbury White Horse has now been removed, after being reported to English Heritage earlier. The body said it would assess whether the 175ft (53m) tall Wiltshire landmark had been damaged by pegs used to secure the fabric.
It is not clear who put the ribbon up or why - but it is not the first time this has happened. In 2018, red plastic was put up on the monument ahead of the England men's football World Cup semi-final match.
Thousands of St George's flags have appeared across England in recent months. While some football fans were flying them to cheer on the Lionesses during the 2025 Euros, many more flags have gone up in recent weeks.
Some groups responsible for putting them up have told BBC News they are motivated by pride and patriotism. But some people have said it feels provocative at a time when tensions are running high across England over the issue of immigration.

Speaking about the Westbury incident before the removal, an English Heritage spokesperson said: "Red fabric has been attached to the Westbury White Horse. We'll be removing it as soon as we can and seeing whether the pegs that were used have caused any damage to this much-loved historic landmark."
Westbury's white horse is said to be the oldest in Wiltshire. It was restored in 1778, but many believe it is much older than that.
Westbury Town Council said it was aware of the incident and Wiltshire Police said no criminal offences were thought to have been committed and the force was not investigating.