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Re: HS2 and Northern Powerhouse Rail (NPR) - Government proposals, alternative routes, discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [373545/5138/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:18, 23rd March 2026
 
From the BBC:

HS2 trains could run slower than planned to save money



HS2 high speed railway trains could be made to run slower than initially planned to keep costs down.

The government is to order the company building the project to consider lower speeds on the line from London to Birmingham, which has been hit by delays and cost overruns.

HS2's chief executive Mark Wild was expected to say this month the line would not be completed until after the current 2033 deadline and it would cost over £100bn in today's prices, but that announcement has now been delayed until after the May elections.

Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander is said to be weighing up all options to claw back as much time and money for the taxpayer as possible. Among the options is a lower initial operating speed on the line.

HS2 has been designed to allow trains to run at up to 360km/h (224mph). Department for Transport sources point out that this is faster than any other conventional railway in the world.

Most high speed trains in this country run at up to 200km/h (125mph), while those on the Channel Tunnel Rail Link (HS1) operate at up to 300km/h.

This means HS2 trains could not be tested at their intended operating speeds until a bespoke test track, or the railway itself is complete, something DfT sources claim would delay completion of the project by several years and cost billions of pounds.

The alternative, they say, would be to send trains to China to be tested on existing tracks there.

The government has been highly critical of decisions taken by previous administrations. Last year, the Transport Secretary described the scheme as "an appalling mess".

The Conservatives have been approached for comment.

Wild had previously worked as chief executive of Crossrail, the project that became London's Elizabeth Line. He was appointed as chief executive of HS2 under the previous government in May 2024 to oversee the completion of the railway.

Wild has spent more than a year working on a "reset" of the entire project which is meant to set out a realistic schedule and budget for delivering the line.

A number of major developments, including tunnels and bridges, have been built along the line but it is still years away from completion.

HS2 was originally envisaged as a high-speed railway that would connect London with Leeds and Manchester. However, the sections north of Birmingham were subsequently cancelled.

Under current plans, HS2 trains will travel from Birmingham to Manchester, but at reduced speed on the existing West Coast Main Line.


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [373544/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 12:46, 23rd March 2026
 
12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 12:59

12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 12:59 is being delayed at Westbury.
This is due to the train departing late to maintain customer connections.

Scheduled 12:11 from Portsmouth Harbour rolled in at 12:17 and terminated rather than carrying on to Cardiff.  Swindon train left a few minutes later - sensible to let passengers for South Wales take that and change at Swindon, as well as maintaining the local connection.

Re: South Wales Metro Electrification
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [373543/28631/23]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 12:46, 23rd March 2026
 
Electrification Didcot to Oxford, Newbury to Bedwyn, or Cockelbury Lane to Bath where tracks are already primed and there are even some overheads in place, anyone?

If only we had a 'To the West of London' devolved authority with transport on its mandate - oh, and a bit of that Barnett Formula

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [373539/489/12]
Posted by grahame at 11:54, 23rd March 2026
 
Shock, horror  - 9 minutes late into Penzance - 08:04 versus 07:55.   All that remains is for anyone who's told their lift to pick them up at the JourneyCheck expected time of 08:54 to twiddle their thumbs for 50 minutes.

Do you think that perhaps, assuming a reasonable amount of common sense (risky I know), that someone on the train in question expecting to be picked up would ring ahead and confirm any revised arrival time, especially given yesterday's events at Newton Abbot?

You give Jo Public a great deal of credit ... we are informed here on the Coffee Shop, but remember that the rail systems tell people that ballast is "stones on the track" and points are things which "allow the movement of trains from one line to another".

Friends coming the the WWRUG meeting last Wednesday, with successive trains 110 minutes late, cancelled, and 55 minutes late kept me message / informed. However, the are well informed ... and there are two sides to the story and I was so busy with meeting setup that there was a distinct delay in me hearing.

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [373538/489/12]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 11:21, 23rd March 2026
 
Shock, horror  - 9 minutes late into Penzance - 08:04 versus 07:55.   All that remains is for anyone who's told their lift to pick them up at the JourneyCheck expected time of 08:54 to twiddle their thumbs for 50 minutes.

Do you think that perhaps, assuming a reasonable amount of common sense (risky I know), that someone on the train in question expecting to be picked up would ring ahead and confirm any revised arrival time, especially given yesterday's events at Newton Abbot?

Re: South Wales Metro Electrification
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [373537/28631/23]
Posted by johnneyw at 11:06, 23rd March 2026
 
Bit of an old thread, but have today (23 March 2026) announced electrification is finished.

I think Cardiff Bay line was final bit energised.

https://news.tfw.wales/news/100-percent-electrification-of-the-core-valley-lines-complete

Blimey, when I was at Cardiff Bay Station last week the wires were only up on the new platform.  The old platform had the steel columns in place but nothing else so they must have got a bit of a move on during the nicer recent weather.  I gather though that the new tram trains that will use the line and are currently stabled at Taffs Well won't be deployed until the beginning of June.

Re: WECA becomes WEMCA in December 2024 and ongoing political issues (updated title)
In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [373536/25181/21]
Posted by grahame at 10:10, 23rd March 2026
 
I did think of adding something along the lines of 'your move, Wiltshire' at the end of that post... trouble is transport doesn't very neatly map on to county boundaries. West Wilts has strong links with BANES, but what about north-east Somerset?

Adding Wiltshire could, in parts, make sense.  The problem is described so eloquently by my telling you that "Devizes" means "at the dividing point" historically.

West Wiltshire look toward Bath and Bristol
South Wiltshire looks towards Southampton and the Solent
North East Wiltshire looks to and through Swindon to Oxford
East Wiltshire looks via Newbury to Reading and London
and then you have the bits close to Dorset, Somerset and Gloucestershire too.

Re: WECA becomes WEMCA in December 2024 and ongoing political issues (updated title)
In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [373535/25181/21]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 09:44, 23rd March 2026
 
I did think of adding something along the lines of 'your move, Wiltshire' at the end of that post... trouble is transport doesn't very neatly map on to county boundaries. West Wilts has strong links with BANES, but what about north-east Somerset?

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [373534/489/12]
Posted by bobm at 09:23, 23rd March 2026
 
There was a time in the not too distant past when the Monday morning sleeper arrived in Penzance an hour later than the other days.


Re: Train fire at Newton Abbot 22 March
In "London to the West" [373533/31778/12]
Posted by a-driver at 08:18, 23rd March 2026
 
Interesting eyewitness account, sounds as if the problems with smoke, smell and oil/grease
were evident and reported to GWR by a passenger some time before the train was forced to stop but the journey was allowed to continue.

Some tricky questions for GWR to address.


https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/gwr-train-fire-passengers-stranded-10880256


The eyewitness who got on stated the smoke was coming from the rear of the train when he got on at Ivybridge.  The issue was the front carriage.

The 150 saloon heating on a 150 is provided by a Webasto heater which are common to see smoking which could be what the witness saw.

Re: South Wales Metro Electrification
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [373532/28631/23]
Posted by grahame at 08:14, 23rd March 2026
 
Wonder what happens now, presumably disperse the teams, lose the knowledge etc because don't have rolling programme, lose ability to quickly do another bit etc.

Electrification Didcot to Oxford, Newbury to Bedwyn, or Cockelbury Lane to Bath where tracks are already primed and there are even some overheads in place, anyone?

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [373531/489/12]
Posted by grahame at 08:12, 23rd March 2026
 
Shock, horror  - 9 minutes late into Penzance - 08:04 versus 07:55.   All that remains is for anyone who's told their lift to pick them up at the JourneyCheck expected time of 08:54 to twiddle their thumbs for 50 minutes.

Re: South Wales Metro Electrification
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [373530/28631/23]
Posted by John D at 08:10, 23rd March 2026
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Bit of an old thread, but have today (23 March 2026) announced electrification is finished.

I think Cardiff Bay line was final bit energised.

https://news.tfw.wales/news/100-percent-electrification-of-the-core-valley-lines-complete

Wonder what happens now, presumably disperse the teams, lose the knowledge etc because don't have rolling programme, lose ability to quickly do another bit etc.


Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [373529/489/12]
Posted by bobm at 07:51, 23rd March 2026
 
Looks like with the late start it may have been forced to go around scheduled engineering work.

After Reading it took the Berks & Hants as far as Westbury before going up the Avon Valley to rejoin its booked route at Bath Spa.

Thanks to the generous layover at Exeter St David’s it was all but on time going forward. 

Re: Train fire at Newton Abbot 22 March
In "London to the West" [373528/31778/12]
Posted by John D at 07:48, 23rd March 2026
 
The last time I traveled on a 150 in South Devon, there was a certain amount of exhaust fumes, and hot engine smell drifting in through the open windows.  It was also a very noisy train (engine noise, not passenger chatter) especially compared to quiet of my electric car.

If that is normal ambience for a 150, not surprising bit of smoke was ignored.

Travelling in a 150 is not like the experience of a 387 electric unit, no fumes, and just a faint hum from the motors.

Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion
In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [373527/24927/21]
Posted by John D at 07:40, 23rd March 2026
 
Brabazon is one of 7 new towns (although some are more like a new district on edge of an existing conurbation) in today's Government announcement

Built for the future from the ground up, the next generation of new towns will create well-connected new communities with homes, jobs, schools, green space and transport links planned from the start.

Each proposed location is expected to deliver at least 10,000 homes, with several delivering 40,000 or more in the decades to come.

Brabazon and the West Innovation Arc, South Gloucestershire — up to 40,000 homes at the heart of a world-class research and advanced engineering economy

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/seven-new-towns-proposed-to-kickstart-housebuilding-push

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [373526/489/12]
Posted by grahame at 06:40, 23rd March 2026
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23:50 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55

22/03/26 23:50 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55 will be diverted between Reading and Exeter St Davids.

It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 59 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed.

Probably due to the closure due to a fire on a train between Totnes and Newton Abbot last night.

It's interesting to compare what the official "JourneyCheck" and Real Time Trains are telling me now - at about 06:30 - as to how this train is doing.   

A good example of how some of the AI systems spew out - err - false suggestions. Even at 2 O'Clock this morning, it might have been a good bet to suggest that the train would make up most of the delay. As the sleeper is set down only once it gets west, JourneyCheck is not in this instance going to mislead people into missing their train, but it might mean that someone getting off the train in Liskeard and being picked up by taxis finds they have nearly an hour to wait if the taxi has looked at this information feed.


Re: Inspiration train, winter of 2026 - first South West venue announced
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [373525/31448/20]
Posted by grahame at 06:08, 23rd March 2026
 
Anyone headed to Bristol today?


Re: Train fire at Newton Abbot 22 March
In "London to the West" [373524/31778/12]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:06, 23rd March 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
Interesting eyewitness account, sounds as if the problems with smoke, smell and oil/grease
were evident and reported to GWR by a passenger some time before the train was forced to stop but the journey was allowed to continue.

Some tricky questions for GWR to address.


https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/gwr-train-fire-passengers-stranded-10880256

Re: Jago Hazzard visits St Ives
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [373523/31776/49]
Posted by JayMac at 21:56, 22nd March 2026
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I've been a subscriber to Jago's YouTube channel for several years. He has been historically London centric with his public transport content but has recently (ahem) branched out. Also producing more long form videos such as this one.

This one being an excellent episode. Jago has a warm, humorous, easy going style, with just a little bit of railway politics for historical context. This is just the sort of railway content I enjoy. Even when the subject is something I already know a fair few facts about.

Oh, and that new footbridge is a nice design - a little different from the usual modern Network Rail accessible bridges. Still looks out of place in St Erth though.


Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion
In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [373522/24927/21]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 21:49, 22nd March 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
The term track stones is used to help the hard of thinking…

Re: East Somerset Railway - visiting by public transport. Sensible / practical?
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [373521/31774/47]
Posted by Mark A at 21:45, 22nd March 2026
Already liked by Ralph Ayres
 
I should add that the East Somerset Railway is NOT unique in being hard to reach by public transport. There's an irony in attraction about old public transport celebrations being only randomly accessible by public transport.  The Swindon and Cricklade railway is another interesting one ... as it the West Somerset - astonishing that as it should be providing a public transport rail service from all over the UK to Butlins and Minehead.  And I have yet to reach Gartell and Stafold Barn ...

Put me in mind of the GWSR's racecourse station, and my conversation with the relevant authorities as to the desirability of an adjacent  bus stop for the... scheduled bus service that passes the station.

Huge shower of earth as everyone dug their heels in - couldn't posssibly be done... H&S... fast road etc etc. This was when the Gloucestershire Cycle Spine with its extensive alterations to the road there was not yet building and Something Could Surely Have Been Done, but noooooooooh. So, even with the speed limit on the road having been dropped to 40mph, bus passengers continue to have the opportunity to enjoy a half mile hike through the racecourse grounds to the station there ...

Mark

Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion
In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [373520/24927/21]
Posted by Mark A at 21:38, 22nd March 2026
 

Incidentally does anyone else find it odd that Network Rail feel that they have to call ballast 'track stones', assuming that people who are interested in railway maintenance wouldn't know what ballast was? Next they'll be calling the rails 'shiny steel strips'...

Yes, it's bananas.

Mark

Re: Train fire at Newton Abbot 22 March
In "London to the West" [373519/31778/12]
Posted by a-driver at 20:23, 22nd March 2026
 

OpenTrainTimes shows 5E13 on the up line from Plymouth approaching Newton Abbott ... but the down line open. Sadly, it shows that the lines are NOT signalled for bidirectional working, which scuppers the change of even one train an hour past the one that can't move.

You can operate bi-directional working if Network Rail have the staff to provide a pilotman.

The downside is, they won’t be able to do anything with the stranded until whilst trains are running.

Re: Train fire at Newton Abbot 22 March
In "London to the West" [373518/31778/12]
Posted by grahame at 20:12, 22nd March 2026
 
Probably tempting fate but the sleepers haven’t been cancelled, yet. 

Engineers are due onsite at 20:00 to assess the unit.

OpenTrainTimes shows 5E13 on the up line from Plymouth approaching Newton Abbott ... but the down line open. Sadly, it shows that the lines are NOT signalled for bidirectional working, which scuppers the change of even one train an hour past the one that can't move.

Re: Train fire at Newton Abbot 22 March
In "London to the West" [373517/31778/12]
Posted by a-driver at 19:54, 22nd March 2026
 
Probably tempting fate but the sleepers haven’t been cancelled, yet. 

Engineers are due onsite at 20:00 to assess the unit.

Re: Train fire at Newton Abbot 22 March
In "London to the West" [373516/31778/12]
Posted by bobm at 19:46, 22nd March 2026
 
Probably tempting fate but the sleepers haven’t been cancelled, yet. 

 
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