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Re: Buses and coaches bursting into flames - why are they apparently so combustible? (merged topic)
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [366702/7528/5]
Posted by CyclingSid at 16:17, 9th October 2025
 
The buses between Reading and High Wycombe have history. Why I never sit at the back, there is warm and warm!

Re: Twyford parking rules could change as Elizabeth Line route opens
In "London to Reading" [366701/26895/7]
Posted by CyclingSid at 16:12, 9th October 2025
 
A bridge from the first floor of the extended car park?

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [366697/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 14:34, 9th October 2025
 
Something broke down in Worcester at a critical moment this morning, with serious knock-on effects over the single track from Shrub Hill through Foregate St to Henwick.

WMT's 11:40 Foregate Street to Stratford : started from Shrub Hill (P1 11:47) +18 "due to a problem with the traction equipment (MD)".

GWR's 10:53 Foregate St to Bristol Temple Meads : departed +20, departed Shrub Hill +51, arrived Bristol Parkway +54 and cancelled thereafter.

1P26 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington (13:25) : due Foregate St 11:11-11:12, held Henwick (+22), Foregate St (+39), arrived Reading +53 and cancelled thereafter.

11:58 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:23 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a broken down train.
Will be formed of 9 coaches instead of 5.
Additional Facilities Information
Reservations for Coach D in Coach K.
Last Updated:09/10/2025 11:48

1W17 08:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern (11:14) : due Foregate St 11:02-11:03, cancelled after Worcester Shrub Hill.
1W01 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford (12:46) : held Shrub Hill (+14), arrived +21.

13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:15 will be started from Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
Last Updated:09/10/2025 11:59

Re: Twyford parking rules could change as Elizabeth Line route opens
In "London to Reading" [366696/26895/7]
Posted by bobm at 14:04, 9th October 2025
 


Here is the crossing in question.

The track to the left is the connection to the Up Relief for stock to get on and off the Henley branch.  The one on the right leads to the bay platform and is used by trains more often.

Re: Mid Cornwall Metro - Newquay, St Austell, Truro & Falmouth
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [366695/27102/25]
Posted by grahame at 13:47, 9th October 2025
 
From Cornwall Live:

At a meeting of Cornwall Council's sustainable growth scrutiny committee today (Tuesday, October 7 [2025]), Kevin Towill - Reform UK councillor for Newquay Porth and Tretherras - said: "It was always envisaged from the beginning of the Mid Cornwall Metro project that the train would stop at the villages - including Roche and Bugle - but I've heard a rumour this might not be happening now and the train will be running right through without stopping." He asked Cllr Dan Rogerson, Liberal Democrat cabinet member for transport, to clarify.

Cllr Rogerson said: "It is correct that the hourly service to Newquay will not stop at every station. I think it's more like a two-hourly service to those stations, which is not ideal. We want to encourage people to be able to get to a frequency of travel like perhaps there is on the Truro to Falmouth route which is half-hourly where people don't have to plan ahead quite so much and can hop on.

"There are real opportunities to do better in the future but for now, unfortunately, it will be an hourly service to Newquay and slightly less frequently to some of those clay country stations, which is not what I want to see, but that's where we're starting."

A recent report by the Diocese of Truro and Plymouth Marjon University found that poor transport links are hitting rural areas of Cornwall, particularly in the clay country area.

The concerns that a local or regional service that calls only once every 2 hours is so thin that it puts off a substantial proportion of potential users are, in my experience, correct.  I do not, however, know the potential user base at Bugle or Roche and cannot quantify / qualify the size of the market it will make a difference to.

Re: National Railway Museums - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [366694/21281/47]
Posted by stuving at 12:54, 9th October 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Part of the NRM - Station hall - has got a new roof. This is not part of the Vision 2025 project (though it would at least have met that hubristic dateline!). This report is from Buttress, who did the work:
Station Hall at the National Railway Museum reopens following £11million transformation

Restoration and conservation work to refresh the interior and exterior of the Grade II listed Station Hall, including the installation of 632 photovoltaic roofing panels.

On Friday 26 September, the refurbished Grade II listed Station Hall reopens after an £11m transformation in time to celebrate the National Railway Museum's 50th birthday weekend (27–28 September) and Railway 200, the bicentenary of the modern railway.

As part of the restoration works which started in 2023, Buttress Architects have undertaken a major re-roofing project which saw the entire 6000m² roof come off the Station Hall building, whilst the historic locomotives were left in-situ and shrouded with protective scaffolding to shield them whilst the works were carried out. This is the museum’s biggest structural project since its opening in 1975.

Buttress worked alongside the National Railway Museum team in York to painstakingly ensure that all the historical locomotives and carriages - including Queen Victoria’s train, King Edward’s train Queen Mary’s and the Queen Mother’s train - were protected from the works above...

Transport fares to school
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [366693/30881/5]
Posted by grahame at 12:50, 9th October 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Faresaver buses were set up by John Pickford, he told me, to help in a transport issue getting his own children to school.  That was a long time ago - those children now run the company and it's a successful and much more general operation these days.  I used "his" buses just yesterday ...

Many or most bus services these days are general public focuses commercial, or are supported by subsidy from the local unitary council, and have a £3 fare cap as part of the government scheme.  That applies to Faresaver routes X31/231, X34, 1, 1A, 1C, 10, 33, X33, 44, 60, 63, 65/65A, 66, 67/67A, 68/68A, 69, 76, 77, 87, 91, 95/95A, 228, 3A/3C, 271, 272, 273, 635 and 636. The other Faresaver routes - X10, X37, X83, X86, 287, 555, 49 - are not part of that scheme; the 555 at least remains a commercially based venture run by the company and paid for by the passengers or their parents / guardians.   It runs school days only and whilst the public may use it, and indeed it's a useful direct bus from Corsham to Melksham later in the day, it's not really any good as a daily commuter bus because of the long holiday gaps.

The Melksham Oak School - the designate school in our town - is not every parent's choice, and a significant number of children are bussed, or given lifts elsewhere.   If the parents choose a school that is not the closest, should they then expect or have a right to free or subsidised transport to the school they have selected, or should they take these costs into consideration when choosing for their children?     While I am "at it" ... Mum's / Dad's taxi is also often used to get kiddos to schools when there is a closer / not motorised and practical alternative - should schools charge parking or drop of fees like (but not at the same level) as airports do?

From the Melksham News

FAMILIES in Melksham are raising concerns about the cost of school transport to Corsham School, saying current fares are unaffordable for many households.

A petition has been launched asking Wiltshire Council to review its school transport policy and consider ways to make travel more affordable, particularly for families on lower incomes.

The petition states, “Currently, the fare is £315 per term per child.  For many families, especially single-parent households and those already facing rising living costs, this is simply unaffordable.  Education should be accessible to all children, and the cost of transport should not be a barrier to attending a school that best meets their needs.”

One parent said, “I recognise that it is my choice to send my child to a secondary school outside of the town, but I do feel that the cost of transport is very high. There are some families whose children’s needs aren’t being met at the local option, but the cost of transport to other schools is so high that they might not have the option to look elsewhere, especially if they have more than one child or are on lower incomes.”

However, Wiltshire Council has explained that under national school transport guidance, children are entitled to free transport only if they live more than three miles from their nearest or designated school. For families in Melksham, this is Melksham Oak Community School.

Cabinet Member for Highways, Cllr Martin Smith, said, “Children from low-income households who qualify for free school meals may be eligible for free transport to one of the three nearest schools, located between two and six miles from their home. In some cases, this may include Corsham School.  “Where parents choose a school that is not the closest or designated school, and the child does not qualify under low-income criteria, the responsibility for transport costs lies with the family. While the council does consider individual circumstances, exceptions are unlikely to be granted where the choice of school is based on educational preference or domestic arrangements.”

The 555 bus service to Corsham School is operated independently by Faresaver as a commercial venture, with fares set by the company based on operational costs.

The petition calls on Wiltshire Council to review its school transport policy, seeking a reduction in fares or subsidised travel for families on lower incomes, greater flexibility in providing assistance for children attending schools further afield, and a commitment to ensuring all children have equal access to education.

Faresaver has been contacted for comment

Re: 175s to GWR
In "Across the West" [366692/28982/26]
Posted by BBM at 12:30, 9th October 2025
 
Been reported elsewhere that units 175 111 and 175 115 are currently being hauled from storage at Ely to Wolverton works by locos 93006 and 93002

RAIL Magazine has posted a photo of 93006 at the front of the train:

https://x.com/RAIL/status/1976245003006427310

Re: Twyford parking rules could change as Elizabeth Line route opens
In "London to Reading" [366691/26895/7]
Posted by stuving at 12:09, 9th October 2025
Already liked by grahame
 
Yes.  Or more niche ones like gaining approval to increase the footfall of the unusual and outdated method of getting from the car park to the station by crossing the track.

Mind you, that crossing isn't quite as scary as the National Rail plan would have you believe. Spot the deliberate error!

Re: Photographers asked to tell story of rail travel
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [366689/30829/49]
Posted by grahame at 11:53, 9th October 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
Chivied on by an article in the Melksham News, I have submitted a picture entitled "Melksham to Moskosel, all the way by train". Competition close date is 31st December 2025.  Competition asks for high res images (makes sense) - if you click on the image below, it will display at higher resolution for you.




Re: Twyford parking rules could change as Elizabeth Line route opens
In "London to Reading" [366687/26895/7]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:34, 9th October 2025
 
Whether there are other silly little things that might make it more complicated, who knows!

Newts, just for example. 

Yes.  Or more niche ones like gaining approval to increase the footfall of the unusual and outdated method of getting from the car park to the station by crossing the track.

Re: Free things to see and do - day trip to London
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [366683/30879/31]
Posted by Phil at 09:17, 9th October 2025
Already liked by Ralph Ayres
 
Postman's park. Not just a haven of peace and beauty, but it also houses the humbling, beautiful G.F. Watts Memorial to heroic deeds of ordinary men, women and children which is worth a visit in it’s own right

https://www.london-walking-tours.co.uk/postmans-park/introduction.htm

Re: Free things to see and do - day trip to London
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [366682/30879/31]
Posted by grahame at 09:07, 9th October 2025
 
If it is free..why do they need ticket offices

Things have changed (and, I agree, sad).  Whilst you can go in to many things for free, you are encouraged to make a donation, and made to feel [mean / pretty rotten] if you don't.

Re: Free things to see and do - day trip to London
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [366681/30879/31]
Posted by chuffed at 08:44, 9th October 2025
 
The Science museum has been ruined for me. On a previous visit 10 years ago I was absolutely stunned by the Power Hall with all those static steam engines as far as the eye could see. On my last visit there was a line of ticket offices stretching across the width of the hall that completely takes away the 'wow' moment that I experienced before. Talk about an own goal/shooting yourself in the foot! If it is free..why do they need ticket offices

Re: 175s to GWR
In "Across the West" [366680/28982/26]
Posted by John D at 08:39, 9th October 2025
 
Been reported elsewhere that units 175 111 and 175 115 are currently being hauled from storage at Ely to Wolverton works by locos 93006 and 93002


Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [366679/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 06:57, 9th October 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby
 
Thursday October 9

A nice complementary pair this morning:
Facilities on the 08:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:25.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9.
Last Updated:09/10/2025 04:03

Facilities on the 08:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 9 coaches instead of 5.
Last Updated:09/10/2025 04:04

... which means the excuse about "trains needing repair" is rather silly.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [366678/29726/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:56, 9th October 2025
 

06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Salisbury and Warminster.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Re: Bus destroyed by fire, A30 Cornwall, 7th October 2025.
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [366676/7528/5]
Posted by John D at 22:31, 8th October 2025
 
Euro 6 bus again. The exhaust systems run ridiculously hot to burn off and reduce emissions. They also have tiny engines compared to buses in the past which works extremely hard.
To my knowledge there has been no electric bus fires caused by mechanical. The only one I know of was arson by a passenger upstairs!

Yes but, reported as an Alexander Dennis Enviro400. Enviro means electric dont it. 400 means really scary

Enviro is the bodywork style, came out about 2006

Replaced the Alexander ALX400 and Plaxton President, as ADL had merged by then via Transbus

The 400 is double deck 2 axle version, they used same numbers as ALX series except the long single deck ALX300 just became a long Enviro200

There have been diesel, hybrid, compressed gas, and electric versions



Re: Buses and coaches bursting into flames - why are they apparently so combustible? (merged topic)
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [366675/7528/5]
Posted by broadgage at 22:09, 8th October 2025
Already liked by Ralph Ayres
 
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