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Re: Northumberland Line - reopened December 2024, further developments possible
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [368270/29569/28]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 14:05, 17th November 2025
 
All these things are true.

The biggest physical stumbling block might be access to Grace Darling School, which looks to cross the old formation on the level. Solving this could be pricey.

The starting point should probably be a well-integrated bus from Ashington. This would not be a perfect measure of demand - there can be little doubt that more people would use a through train if there was one - but it would provide some evidence, and a useful link to boot. The same test could be applied to Yatton - Clevedon, Kemble - Cirencester[, Lydeway - Devizes] and dozens of similar temptingly short missing links.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368268/30953/26]
Posted by Rob S at 12:17, 17th November 2025
 
At the 2215-2300 window, remarkably quiet, as was the train

Re: pilot scheme to improve wi-fi on W of E trains
In "London to the West" [368267/31108/12]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:06, 17th November 2025
 
GWR’s Intercity Express Train, which was developed by Peninsula Transport in partnership with Motion Applied, Great Western Railway (GWR), Network Rail, and Hitachi, made its debut alongside a Formula 1 car today (17 November 2025) at London Paddington Station.

Pennisular Transport had input into the design of the IET?.....that's a new claim?

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368266/30953/26]
Posted by Mark A at 12:03, 17th November 2025
 
Useful to know from someone travelling, how this evolved, thanks - how busy was Paddington / your train by the way?

Mark

Re: pilot scheme to improve wi-fi on W of E trains
In "London to the West" [368265/31108/12]
Posted by Mark A at 12:00, 17th November 2025
 
A couple of years ago, wasn't the DfT, looking for a saving, querying why trains need wifi provision at all?

Mark

Re: pilot scheme to improve wi-fi on W of E trains
In "London to the West" [368264/31108/12]
Posted by stuving at 11:57, 17th November 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
And where did the BBC get it from? Probably this, from Railway News:
Peninsula Transport Debuts Superfast Wi-Fi Pilot at Paddington
Author:    Joey Stoate    Published:     17 Nov 2025

The UK has debuted its very-first train to utilise pilot ‘next generation’ Wi-Fi technology.

GWR’s Intercity Express Train, which was developed by Peninsula Transport in partnership with Motion Applied, Great Western Railway (GWR), Network Rail, and Hitachi, made its debut alongside a Formula 1 car today (17 November 2025) at London Paddington Station.

Using a new, hybrid system that aggregates signals from both ground-based cellular masts and low earth orbit (LEO) satellites; the pilot hopes to provide superfast, reliable speeds without the need to invest in trackside infrastructure, enabling the rollout of the technology across the UK’s rail network.

The introduction of the train comes following an announcement made by the Department for Transport (DfT) in June that pledged to eliminate mobile signal blackspots in tunnels along a number of rail routes across the country – including the 4-kilometre-long Chipping Sodbury tunnel near Bristol.

As part of the deal, mobile network operators have also pledged to invest in a slew of new 4G/5G infrastructure at both Bristol Temple Meads and London Paddington Station. The DfT has since secured an additional 41 million GBP as part of the 2025 Spending Review to introduce low-earth-orbit satellite connectivity on all mainline trains, which aims to improve the availability and connection speeds for Wi-Fi by 2030.

Both say that this £41M was allocated in the Spending Review, which it wasn't. It's part of the New Industrial Strategy of a couple of weeks later. No doubt in the Treasury's towering hierarchy of numbers it's part of something in the Spending Review, but not obviously.

Like most things these days it may well be clever, but its cleverness is so oversold it's hard to tell. Looked at one way it's a step on from Icomera's system of combining all the mobile phone signals a train can get hold of to make a reasonably continuous backhaul for WiFi. This time they add in other radiocomms services to reduce the number of total blackouts along the route.

From another direction these guys worked in F1 for teams with a lot to spend on radiocomms kit that's small, light, sets up quickly to work anywhere in the world, etc. That has given them a product that has advantages in a train.

What no-one's letting on is whose LEO satellites they will use! Maybe they have tried to be independent and hope to sign up to whatever they can at the time (though we all know most of the satellite's are Elon's).

Re: Badgers at Hayle
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [368263/31109/25]
Posted by GBM at 11:41, 17th November 2025
 
Cancellations to services between Plymouth and Penzance
Following a safety inspection of the track earlier today at Hayle some lines have now reopened. Disruption is expected until 13:00 17/11.
Train services between Plymouth and Penzance are returning to normal but some services have been cancelled, delayed or revised.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368262/30953/26]
Posted by Rob S at 11:30, 17th November 2025
Already liked by Mark A, PrestburyRoad, Witham Bobby
 
My experience on Friday was:
At about 2100 during the second interval of the thing I was in London to see, I checked the Railboard app to see what the trains were like as I was aware the BPW-SWI route had issues on my outward journey....the app said everything for PAD-SWI was cancelled for the rest of the night....after the show I headed to Tottenham Court Road for the Elizabeth Line and rechecked the app and it said the 2202 was running but delayed while everything else still cancelled. I got to Paddington 5 minutes after the 2202 eventually left (2211) but again, everything else still cancelled...then the 2228 changed from cancelled to 'On Time' (I had overheard the would be train manager telling a member of the public it would be running shortly before it appeared on the screens) and although it did go through the 2 mins late, 4 mins late, Delayed thing it did eventually leave at about 2300 on a planned route to Bristol TM via SWI,CPM,WSB,BTH.

Re: Problems with IET trains from April 2021
In "Across the West" [368261/24934/26]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:02, 17th November 2025
 
..........and this'll be cosy too, especially as it's Friday.

18:36 London Paddington to Plymouth due 22:10
Facilities on the 18:36 London Paddington to Plymouth due 22:10.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. There are no reservations on this service.

Correctly formed in the end...as usually seems to happen when there is so much notice given of an alteration to WoE services.

Re: pilot scheme to improve wi-fi on W of E trains
In "London to the West" [368260/31108/12]
Posted by ChrisB at 10:42, 17th November 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
This is 'nicked' word for word from the BBC website

It is correct to give the URL of the webpage, infoman

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjwkdez71ro

Re: Northumberland Line - reopened December 2024, further developments possible
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [368259/29569/28]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:41, 17th November 2025
 
Can't see how this would in fact be feasible.  Several factors against:

* The size of Newbiggin.
* Its reasonably close proximity to the new station at Ashington (3 miles by road).
* The cost of getting consent to build new sections of line - even if less than a mile.
* The cost of construction of new line, and associated track/signalling alterations
* The cost of modifying the new station at Ashington from the new single bay platform to two new platforms on the through lines.
* The cost of providing another train that would be needed to operate the service.

Good to see Blyth Bebside has now opened though.  Just Bedlington and Northumberland Park to go.

Re: Blood-stained trespasser boards empty HEX train before accessing cab
In "London to Reading" [368258/31096/7]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 09:43, 17th November 2025
Already liked by GBM, Mark A, Chris from Nailsea
 
In my humble opinion, and of course not being in full possession of the details, the ability for the driver’s internal door to be forced open represents a critical design flaw issue comparable with that of aircraft cockpit access.

That the passenger has achieved this apparently without specific tools nor a more motivated, terrorist mindset is even more concerning. In my opinion.

It would be nigh on impossible to access the cab through the interior door if it was locked shut without some very heavy equipment and tools - the design is very robust when compared, for example, with a turbo.

Agree about not being in possession of the full details, but if a train is running empty, perhaps the internal door had been left open for ease of access by the driver when they were expecting to go back through the train at some point, or had been unlocked when the driver went to investigate the loss of interlock?  They should have been the only person on board of course.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [368257/29711/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 09:43, 17th November 2025
 
Monday November 17

A cosy morning peak


Definitely cosy! My partner was going to be taking the 05:16 from WOS today as her car is getting its MOT. Wasn't able to get a seat at Hanborough on the late running 05:23 from Hereford so decided to wait for the 06:43 from WOS and still found herself standing.

Badgers at Hayle
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [368255/31109/25]
Posted by GBM at 09:19, 17th November 2025
 
https://www.journeycheck.com/greatwesternrailway/
Cancellations to services between Plymouth and Penzance
Due to a safety inspection of the track at Hayle some lines are blocked. Disruption is expected until 12:00 17/11.
Train services between Plymouth and Penzance may be cancelled, delayed or revised.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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We have been informed that a collapsing badger set has been identified under the railway in the Hayle area.
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What are we doing about it?
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We are working with Network Rail to be able to return to running our normal timetable as soon as possible..
We have stopped train movements in the area until staff are on site to investigate; they should be on site shortly.

Causing a headache down West this morning.

5Z12 turned around at Saltash and returned to Plymouth (was Pnz bound).
The other 175 test running today has been cancelled - nothing to do with badgers!

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [368254/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 09:09, 17th November 2025
 
Monday November 17

A cosy morning peak:

1P11 05:16 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington (07:24) : cancelled ("due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)" according to RTT).
1P02 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington (08:24) : 5 cars.
1P16 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington (08:44) : 5 cars.

Re: Blood-stained trespasser boards empty HEX train before accessing cab
In "London to Reading" [368253/31096/7]
Posted by NickB at 09:03, 17th November 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
In my humble opinion, and of course not being in full possession of the details, the ability for the driver’s internal door to be forced open represents a critical design flaw issue comparable with that of aircraft cockpit access.

That the passenger has achieved this apparently without specific tools nor a more motivated, terrorist mindset is even more concerning. In my opinion.

Re: London's fare dodgers - ongoing issue and discussion here on the forum
In "Transport for London" [368252/30940/46]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 07:51, 17th November 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Anything more secure and harder to push through or even climb over than the current design of ticket gates is - rightly or wrongly - not considered acceptable in this country. .....

Considered unacceptable by whom exactly? As you rightly point out all these systems can be made to 'fail safe' in the event of an emergency.

pilot scheme to improve wi-fi on W of E trains
In "London to the West" [368251/31108/12]
Posted by infoman at 06:37, 17th November 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, IndustryInsider
 
A new UK-first pilot scheme is aiming to create fast and more reliable train wi-fi, using technology originally developed for Formula 1 cars.

It will see a train in the Great Western Railway fleet use a hybrid system of both signals from mobile phone masts on the ground and low earth orbit (LEO) satellites in space to create a more reliable connection.

The scheme has been developed by British tech company Motion Applied, in partnership with the transport body for Cornwall, Devon, Plymouth, Somerset and Torbay, Peninsula Transport.

The pilot will last for 60 days onboard GWR's Intercity Express Train which runs in the South West region, having started in mid-November.

In a recent study by networking testing firm Ookla, external, the UK ranked 16th out of 18 major European and Asian countries for train wi-fi speed, with average download speeds at just 1.09 megabits per second, compared to Sweden's 64.58.

Nick Fry, chairman of Motion Applied, external, formerly part of McLaren Group, said the issues faced in connecting to the internet from a fast moving train had "many parallels with motorsport".

He added that by using technology originally developed for F1 cars, trains should be able to switch between ground and space-based networks such as LEO satellites to "reliably connect" without drop outs.

In the 2025 spending review, the Department of Transport secured £41m to introduce low earth orbit satellite connectivity on all mainline trains by 2030.
'A step in the right direction'

Councillor Dan Rogerson, from the Peninsula Transport board, called the pilot a "major milestone" in its plans to modernise transport infrastructure across the South West and South Wales.

"It's not just about passenger wi-fi," he said. "This is about a whole new digital backbone for our transport networks".

Bruce Williamson from the campaign group Railfuture told the BBC the scheme appeared to be "really good news".

"We're all increasingly connected these days, and wi-fi has become more and more of an essential service for travellers. I'm not going to hold my breath, but this is a step in the right direction."

In May, South Western Railway launched its own, separate, "superfast" wi-fi rollout for its trains between Earlsfield and Basingstoke, using trackside poles and antennas to create a bespoke 5G rail network.

Re: London's fare dodgers - ongoing issue and discussion here on the forum
In "Transport for London" [368250/30940/46]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 00:01, 17th November 2025
 
Anything more secure and harder to push through or even climb over than the current design of ticket gates is - rightly or wrongly - not considered acceptable in this country.  Partly a legacy of the Kings Cross fire (they can all be opened automatically in an emergency such as overcrowding and do so if a fire alarm is activated, but "What if they don't?" is still the cry, quite possibly from a previous era of City Hall Conservatives!).  They could be made harder to get through when you shouldn't, but I've seen the complaints and claims for damaged clothing/luggage or injuries when even the existing gates close too quickly on someone dawdling or waving several bags in front of them.  The detection beams that decide when the gates open and close had to be completely redesigned when a couple of small poorly-supervised children were squashed by a gate as it opened with them hiding outside it.

As an aside, my purely personal observation is that a fair few in London are dodging really quite small fares (local journeys, youths entitled to reduced fares anyway) out of bravado as much as anything, and some of them may not have travelled at all if they'd had to pay so wouldn't have paid a fare either way.  Doesn't excuse what they do and it's frustrating to see, but the amount of revenue lost can only ever be an educated guess.

Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [368249/28355/22]
Posted by Ollie at 23:14, 16th November 2025
Already liked by IndustryInsider
 
Ollie - are you saying that the same PAD non-HSS drivers drive 166s AND 800s? And the HSS drivers also drive just 800s?

To answer on behalf of Ollie, yes that’s correct.  Non-HSS drivers sign Turbos, IETs, and 387s.

Thank you II.

Some also sign the Class 230.

Re: Well planned ??
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [368247/31105/20]
Posted by Timmer at 22:10, 16th November 2025
 
So I take it that the journey time of 45 minutes for the rail replacement bus between Warminster and Salisbury is somewhat factious if it has to go down the A350 and along the A303 before rejoining the A36.

Wouldn’t have meet connecting train services at Warminster and Southampton then.

This isn’t the first time work on the railways has clashed with work on the roads. You do wonder sometimes whether the various authorities ever talk to each other. I am aware that rail engineering work is planned a long way in advance in most situations.

Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [368245/28355/22]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 20:21, 16th November 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Ollie
 
Ollie - are you saying that the same PAD non-HSS drivers drive 166s AND 800s? And the HSS drivers also drive just 800s?

To answer on behalf of Ollie, yes that’s correct.  Non-HSS drivers sign Turbos, IETs, and 387s.

Re: How to increase Melksham Station call frequency without new bridge and lift
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [368244/31099/28]
Posted by ChrisB at 18:00, 16th November 2025
Already liked by grahame, PrestburyRoad
 
S106 payments should be able to generate the cash needed, if the council planners get their decisions right

Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [368243/28355/22]
Posted by ChrisB at 17:45, 16th November 2025
Already liked by grahame
 
Correct. Talk to your MP.

Sympathy for GWR. Their budget is still shrinking year-on-year

Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [368242/28355/22]
Posted by grahame at 17:44, 16th November 2025
 
Money.

All the abilities you are suggesting with flexibility cost money. And if the DfT don't want the flexibility, they won't pay GWR for it. GWR have NO choice, but do the DfT bidding.


So if it's true that every idea would cost money, logic suggests we need to amend the DfT's bidding and priorities, doesn't it. And/or that we take a look and see if there's some sort of way that the various objectives come together in such a way that everyone involved want to work for them and get dividends. 

Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [368241/28355/22]
Posted by ChrisB at 17:27, 16th November 2025
 
Money.

All the abilities you are suggesting with flexibility cost money. And if the DfT don't want the flexibility, they won't pay GWR for it. GWR have NO choice, but do the DfT bidding. You do know that!

Ollie - are you saying that the same PAD non-HSS drivers drive 166s AND 800s? And the HSS drivers also drive just 800s?


 
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