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Re: Taunton Light loco movement - 6 November 2025
In "Across the West" [367857/31044/26]
Posted by bobm at 21:11, 6th November 2025
 
….and now pathed at 33mph.

Re: No reservations on this service
In "Across the West" [367856/31046/26]
Posted by bobm at 20:55, 6th November 2025
 
There is a standard remapping for some seats when a 10 replaces a 9 which appears on the platform screens.  Somewhat unhelpfully I cannot remember what it is at this moment. 

Re: Bus crashes into shop in east London - 6 November 2025
In "Transport for London" [367855/31047/46]
Posted by Marlburian at 20:51, 6th November 2025
 
Just a semi-flippant reply to note a strange coincidence. I'm bingeing on the 2,388 episodes or so of "The Bill",  the police drama series that ran on ITV from 1984 to 2010 and have got to 1994. It's meant to be based in East London, though a lot of filming was done elsewhere. Last night I was watching an episode in which a sign for Manor Park tube station briefly appeared and I wondered if it was real -  or fictionalised, as most of the locations are. The article above confirms  that it is "actual".

Some scenes were filmed in the old docklands, with lots of ruined warehouses and a few cranes still evident.

Re: Taunton Light loco movement - 6 November 2025
In "Across the West" [367854/31044/26]
Posted by bradshaw at 20:48, 6th November 2025
 
It gets as far as Castle Bromwich Jct on that diagram and disappears. It reappears as the 0Z57 1902 Bescot Up Engineers Sdgs to Doncaster Robert Rds leaving at 1958
Currently at 20.48 at Burton on Trent
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:26838/2025-11-06/detailed

Re: Steam trains now not to return at Severn Beach - updated topic, Nov 2025
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [367853/29794/47]
Posted by grahame at 20:12, 6th November 2025
Already liked by johnneyw
 
That statement sounded more than disappointing, it was heartbreaking.  I'm trying to restrain myself but what sort of indifferent bureaucracy can do this?

We haven't heard from South Gloucestershire Council.  We can, however, find other known examples of indifferent, cynical, bullying or downright intentionally misleading actions or inactions from bigger bodies.

Re: Taunton Light loco movement - 6 November 2025
In "Across the West" [367852/31044/26]
Posted by stuving at 19:45, 6th November 2025
 
Poorly I believe

That's what I deduced. Note that "Pathed as Diesel locomotive at 27mph!" is shown as a comment under the origin location, not in the usual place in the heading for the service. The timing load as booked was actually 60 mph, but it looks as if the timing was tweaked by hand (and the comment may be to indicate that).

What is odder still is that the poor thing was pathed to "stop or shunt for other trains to pass" eight times on the way to Bromsgrove, and that bit was done at under 30 mph. One the second half it had none of those overataking stops, and went a bit faster.

Re: Steam trains now not to return at Severn Beach - updated topic, Nov 2025
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [367851/29794/47]
Posted by johnneyw at 19:43, 6th November 2025
 
That statement sounded more than disappointing, it was heartbreaking.  I'm trying to restrain myself but what sort of indifferent bureaucracy can do this?

Re: Call for rail fare simplification
In "Fare's Fair" [367850/28318/4]
Posted by CyclingSid at 19:40, 6th November 2025
 
A bit cheaper than some of the other examples.

The Portsmouth Direct line Guildford to Havant is being engineered this week end. So I go to the National Rail site for tickets/prices with rail card:
Reading - Havant, Cross Country via Southampton Central £45.35
Reading - Havant, South Western via Eastleigh  £24.00

Reading - Portsmouth Harbour, Cross Country via Southampton Central £25.20
Reading - Portsmouth Harbour, South Western via Eastleigh  £25.20

Can someone explain the logic behind this?

Re: Bath to Ciren and back: 8/3/25
In "Introductions and chat" [367849/30038/1]
Posted by grahame at 19:30, 6th November 2025
 
This Saturday I'm planning to walk Stroud to Kemble.   Just under 12 miles.  On most weeks I'm sharing day trip options from Melksham but this time my picture library is so thin








Bus crashes into shop in east London - 6 November 2025
In "Transport for London" [367848/31047/46]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:28, 6th November 2025
 
From the BBC:


No-one was on the bus at the time of the crash, TfL said

A bus has crashed into a shop close to a train station in east London.

Emergency services were called to Station Road near Manor Park Station at about 09:00 GMT where they found the double decker bus crashed into a shop.

Transport for London (TfL) said no passengers were on the bus at the time of the crash. No life-threatening or life changing injuries were reported however one person, who was in the shop at the time, was taken to hospital for treatment.

An investigation has been launched into the circumstances, the Met Police confirmed.

Ninoshan Jeyaseelan, who owns the shop the bus crashed into, described the incident as "just insane". He told BBC London: "We just had a big bang sort of thing and the person who was driving (the bus), she was under shock herself."

Mr Jeyaseelan said his shop had minor damage. "I don't know how long it's gonna take to recover from it." He added: "No one's majorly injured you know - thank God."

A TfL spokesperson said: "We're very sorry for the damage and disruption caused when a route 474 bus collided with a shop building on Station Road. Thankfully, there were no passengers onboard the bus, however a customer in the shop at the time has sustained a minor injury and the bus driver was taken to hospital as a precautionary measure. We have support available for anyone affected by this incident. We are supporting Go-Ahead, the operator, as they investigate what happened."


Re: Diesel pollution and Staff and Passenger safety at covered stations.
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [367847/19368/51]
Posted by grahame at 19:01, 6th November 2025
 
I experienced the last great smog http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/december/6/newsid_3251000/3251001.stm in London in the winter of 1962. You could not see more than a couple of yards, it was dark at midday and it smelt as if the doors to Hell had been opened with the levels of sulphur present. What occurs now is merely apprentice muck! (Which does not mean to say that efforts should not continue to be made to reduce the levels).

At short notice, I was asked to write a fill in article for the Melksham News, published today, and full text of the article originally submitted now on my blog at https://grahamellis.uk/blog1771.html

My father took a job in London; in 1960 the family moved from Liverpool. At the time, the classic Portland stone buildings, where they had not been destroyed in the Blitz, were black. In my childhood, I took this as their natural colour but it wasn't. It was a layer of soot from coal burning which had culminated in the great smog of 1952. That, it is estimated, killed 12,000. As late as 1962, there was further smog which killed another 700.

Environmental issues are not new. Care for the environment such as the end of coal burning and the adoption of other modern technologies has made such a difference and can make so much more. It needs to as we seek ever more prosperous futures within sustainably planetary resources. Grand words; how can that translate locally in Melksham?

[continues]

Re: School trip coach involved in a collision, Wheddon Cross, Somerset 17/07/2025
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [367846/30461/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:39, 6th November 2025
 
From the BBC:

Police revisit scene of coach crash that killed boy


The A396 was closed on Wednesday while police carried out a partial reconstruction of a fatal coach crash

Police investigating a fatal school coach crash have conducted a partial reconstruction to help them work out the circumstances which led to the incident.

Oliver Price, 10, died of a head injury when a coach carrying Minehead Middle School pupils left the A396 near Wheddon Cross in Somerset and slid down a 6m (20ft) slope on 17 July.

Avon and Somerset Police requested a temporary road closure on Wednesday to carry out investigation work at the scene. They said the reconstruction involved the "driving of a similar coach" along the route. "We informed Oliver's family in advance of this reconstruction and continue to support them throughout our enquiries," the police said.

In a statement, the force said the necessary road closure and reconstruction would mean investigators were "better equipped to obtain clear answers and provide clarity of all parties affected" by the crash. "This step is a part of the investigative process, and is a common practice in many serious collisions, aimed at accurately determining a sequence of events and factors involved in the collision," they said.

The coach was carrying up to 70 people back from a school trip to Exmoor Zoo when it overturned. A huge emergency services presence descended on the area, including a number of air ambulances to transport those most seriously injured. In total, 21 people were taken to hospital afterwards, police said.

A full inquest is set to take place on 14 January to look into how Oliver died. The inquest is due to hear from Oliver's family, adult passengers on the coach, witnesses, the coach driver, emergency service workers and a pathologist.


Re: No reservations on this service
In "Across the West" [367845/31046/26]
Posted by grahame at 18:09, 6th November 2025
 
Although it doesn't really explain why the software isn't programmed to allocate coach/seat numbers that are common to both configurations and leave the seat layout that are different as the unreserved seats.

Also not clear why reservations are binary, reservations or none, as in has to be whole train that becomes unreserved, rather than just part with different configuration.

I'm not sure how many ARE common ...  Even starting in coach A, there are differences ...




Re: No reservations on this service
In "Across the West" [367844/31046/26]
Posted by John D at 17:06, 6th November 2025
 
Will be formed of 9 coaches instead of 10. There are no reservations on this service.

Eh?
Reservations not transferrable (software issues?)?

I think it's because the standard / first varies in which carriages its in between the five and nine car sets, so it also varies the numbers of seats and layout.

Although it doesn't really explain why the software isn't programmed to allocate coach/seat numbers that are common to both configurations and leave the seat layout that are different as the unreserved seats.

Also not clear why reservations are binary, reservations or none, as in has to be whole train that becomes unreserved, rather than just part with different configuration.

At least get reservations on some services, Portsmouth-Cardiff trains are still fitted (and presumably will still be in 2030 and beyond), slots in top of seat backs for card reservations, but no retrofit electronic reservation displays.

Re: Server slow ...
In "News, Help and Assistance" [367843/30293/29]
Posted by grahame at 16:49, 6th November 2025
 
Fingers and toes have all been crossed all day - and thus far it looks good.  Some fingers remain crossed into the evening which has been the problem time in recent days


Re: No reservations on this service
In "Across the West" [367842/31046/26]
Posted by bobm at 16:28, 6th November 2025
 
That and of course it is a coach shorter and there is no coach E on a nine car, so anyone with seats there (admittedly first class) would have to be re-directed to a different coach letter.

Re: No reservations on this service
In "Across the West" [367841/31046/26]
Posted by grahame at 15:46, 6th November 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
Will be formed of 9 coaches instead of 10. There are no reservations on this service.

Eh?
Reservations not transferrable (software issues?)?

I think it's because the standard / first varies in which carriages its in between the five and nine car sets, so it also varies the numbers of seats and layout.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [367840/29711/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 14:27, 6th November 2025
 
It's not found it's way onto GWR JourneyCheck, but

1W21 1053 Paddington to Shrub Hill lost time all the way from Didcot, and arrived at Shrub Hill 23 minutes late

so

1P30 1316 Shrub Hill to Paddington return working was 28 minutes late off Shrub Hill

Re: Taunton Light loco movement - 6 November 2025
In "Across the West" [367839/31044/26]
Posted by PhilWakely at 14:15, 6th November 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
Class 09 diesel shunter?

57303
Thank you Phil, but surely a class 57 would have a higher top speed than 27mph!

Poorly I believe

No reservations on this service
In "Across the West" [367838/31046/26]
Posted by GBM at 13:26, 6th November 2025
 
10:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 15:03
Facilities on the 10:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 15:03.
Will be formed of 10 coaches instead of 9. There are no reservations on this service.
And the return trip from Penzance
16:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 21:24
Facilities on the 16:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 21:24.
Will be formed of 10 coaches instead of 9. There are no reservations on this service.

Also on
13:15 Plymouth to London Paddington due 16:29
Facilities on the 13:15 Plymouth to London Paddington due 16:29.
Will be formed of 9 coaches instead of 10. There are no reservations on this service.
And the return trip from London
17:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:24
Facilities on the 17:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:24.
Will be formed of 9 coaches instead of 10. There are no reservations on this service.

Eh?
Reservations not transferrable (software issues?)?

Re: Taunton Light loco movement - 6 November 2025
In "Across the West" [367837/31044/26]
Posted by GBM at 13:19, 6th November 2025
 
Class 09 diesel shunter?

57303
Thank you Phil, but surely a class 37 would have a higher top speed than 27mph!

Re: Server slow ...
In "News, Help and Assistance" [367836/30293/29]
Posted by stuving at 12:35, 6th November 2025
Already liked by GBM, Mark A
 
Not just this site, of course. I've mentioned OpenRail before; the landing page there now says:
Recently the website has suffered from high loads, believed to be due to AI crawlers. Regrettably I have therefore had to restrict access to registered users.

It's a free and open registration, so only for load limiting purposes. Further down, it says:
Security Advice

Security is mediocre at best on this website. When choosing a username and password, don't select anything you use for other sites.

Which is candid, at least.

Re: 175s to GWR
In "Across the West" [367835/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 11:43, 6th November 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBYj2HFmZmo

175001 motoring to Laira yesterday.

Re: Taunton Light loco movement - 6 November 2025
In "Across the West" [367834/31044/26]
Posted by PhilWakely at 11:10, 6th November 2025
 
Class 09 diesel shunter?

57303

Re: Steam trains now not to return at Severn Beach - updated topic, Nov 2025
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [367833/29794/47]
Posted by grahame at 10:58, 6th November 2025
 
https://www.facebook.com/severnbeachminiaturerailway/posts/sad-news-it-is-with-a-sad-and-broken-heart-that-i-must-announce-that-the-severn-/122188973462583818/

I am sharing the public follow up to that - on the basis that wide coverage is sought to fill people in, and also to see if anyone wants to buy track, locomotive, carriages ...

Its with sadness and deep regret that the Severn Beach Miniature Railway project  which I been working on for so long is now officially over. Our local parish council have tried to get this through and all were in support.  South Gloucestershire Council  have put everything theve got into stopping the planning going ahead even though at the beginning with had written permission to do so. A lease was drawn up and later retracted by council.  This was a huge community project that I set up and we woukd have been open by Easter this year. The frustrations and stress this project has given me and my family had become too much to bear.

Yesterday I wrote an official letter to our parish council informing them I have cancelled the project.  Im writing this as I would like you all to know the reasons why this project has failed. This of course  means now I will have to see everything as I dont have anywhere else to go.

Included in the items for sale are 65 x 6 metre panoramic track using  S10 rail  mounted on 11 pressure creosoted timber sleepers 5x4x24" sufficient fishplates and track screws. Track tools, 5 pairs of brand new switch blades in S10.  We have a rake of 3 x 10 1/4" gauge toast coaches. A practically new Exmoor 2-4-2   tank locomotive with a new 10 years hydraulic and in ticket  till next year. This locomotive is ready to use now. A 40 shipping container  proffesionally insulated al lined with electrics, 400 plus metres of new 4 inch round posts, stock fencing, post and rails. New galvanised gates in various sizes. 20  new ish Heras fencing panels with clips and stays. Spare sleepers and other items.To see any of these items go to website www.sbmr.co.uk or Facebook.
 

Re: Taunton Light loco movement - 6 November 2025
In "Across the West" [367832/31044/26]
Posted by grahame at 10:30, 6th November 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
Interesting light loco movement today.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:26587/2025-11-06/detailed

0Z57 1030 Fairwater Yard to Doncaster Robert Rds Shed
What is intriguing is this in RTT Fairwater Yard
Pathed as Diesel locomotive at 27mph!

Class 09 diesel shunter?

GWR problem at Taunton with 1A76
In "Across the West" [367831/31045/26]
Posted by GBM at 10:25, 6th November 2025
 
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:P08210/2025-11-06/detailed#allox_id=0

On RTT
This service is partially cancelled
This service was cancelled between Penzance and Taunton due to the train being swapped (YU).
 This service is cancelled.
This service was cancelled due to an unknown problem (TO).
The inbound service for 1A76 came from -
5A76 0849 Bristol Temple Meads to Taunton, which arrived at Taunton for an on time departure, but left 20 minutes down.

On journeycheck
06:05 Penzance to London Paddington due 11:27 will be started from Taunton.
It will be delayed at Taunton and is expected to be 10 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Taunton Light loco movement - 6 November 2025
In "Across the West" [367830/31044/26]
Posted by GBM at 10:20, 6th November 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Interesting light loco movement today.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:26587/2025-11-06/detailed

0Z57 1030 Fairwater Yard to Doncaster Robert Rds Shed
What is intriguing is this in RTT Fairwater Yard
Pathed as Diesel locomotive at 27mph!

Re: Box Tunnel portal at risk?
In "Railway History and related topics" [367829/31043/55]
Posted by Mark A at 09:52, 6th November 2025
 
It's not old fashioned. It's difficult for any vegetation that puts roots into structures to be other than bad news, it's something that brings avoidable expense as time passes. Ditto trees growing within a certain distance above a retaining wall. It's now rather more difficult to organise clearing the stuff alongside a live railway line but it should be part and parcel of maintaining the railway.

Mark

Re: Box Tunnel portal at risk?
In "Railway History and related topics" [367828/31043/55]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:15, 6th November 2025
 
Vegetation seems to be a feature of much of the railway's masonry structures these days

Perhaps I'm old fashioned to beleive that keeping trees, shrubs and under/overgrowth under control is more cost effective than allowing them to reach a stage where they can be destructive

 
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