| Pelleponese Railway. (Out of use, but now, multiple threats) Posted by Mark A at 17:50, 20th October 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Namely, proposals for the hq and the routes converted to cycle paths.
https://www.tovima.com/society/grave-setback-for-peloponnese-railway-revival/
| Re: Pelleponese Railway. (Out of use, but now, multiple threats) Posted by grahame at 19:37, 20th October 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Namely, proposals for the hq and the routes converted to cycle paths.
https://www.tovima.com/society/grave-setback-for-peloponnese-railway-revival/
https://www.tovima.com/society/grave-setback-for-peloponnese-railway-revival/
All across Europe, railways were built from perhaps 18xx to 1926, perhaps to an excess for what's justified for 2026. You could, perhaps, say that the Beeching report and subsequent closures did us a long term favour. I've seen in Italy and France, and in the Balkans, lines on the maps of a couple of years ago that are no longer running, and this week in another country there are heavily engineered lines with few trains that has me wondering about these economics, and a rail replacement bus that often keeps time with the train timetable. Sadly, the closure pendulum can swing too far as we see in Ireland.
| Re: Pelleponese Railway. (Out of use, but now, multiple threats) Posted by Mark A at 20:53, 20th October 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Those lines shut up shop in 2011, a few years after the huge superyacht builders saw their market bloom. Not saying that correlation is causation of course.
Visiting that part of Greece shortly after the Euro arrived there and landing at Kalamata airport in questionable weather, an airport where it wasn't a particularly good idea to point a camera at various things, I noted the railway line crossing the runway at the airport perimeter - a surely out of use by then branch from the city - which we didn't really touch as we were heading out in the other direction. This being a two centre break, on the journey across to Napflio there was an occasional glimpse of the railway doing something circuitous - and later, on the other side of the country near Argos the sight of a small shuttlecock shaped train moving at a surprising speed through the landscape.
Napflio's railway had been moved from its town centre site to a smaller platform on a new spur beyond the outskirts but that too has now closed. At the time we could have used the railway to reach the archaeology at Tyrins - well, we could have done but the timetable was thin to the point of extinction and the bus service ran cheerfully from the middle of town.
(While awaiting the bus, a Greek family's car stopped outside the building, they hastily left it and raised the bonnet to reveal the source of the smoke from the conflagration beneath. Cue everyone knowing what to do, various drinking water bottles retrieved from cafes and the fire given a thorough drenching. To my surprise it co-operated and went out. To my greater surprise the vehicle was still prepared to be driven, in piled the family and off they went...)
| Re: Pelleponese Railway. (Out of use, but now, multiple threats) Posted by Noggin at 18:40, 21st October 2026 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Those lines shut up shop in 2011, a few years after the huge superyacht builders saw their market bloom. Not saying that correlation is causation of course.
Without getting overly political, Greece's post-WW2 politics and public administration have been far from a shining example to the world.
Greece was included in the initial Euro members for political reasons, western European banks lent it far more than was prudent, there was a lot of crazy spending and inflation, then when the music stopped in the light of the banking crisis of 2008, Brussels was very aggressive in it's treatment of Greece, in part because of fears that the big French and German banks would go bankrupt if the Greeks renaged on their debts (or at least that's the way Varoufakis, the Greek Finance Minister at the time tells it).
For its part, the Greek state reacted as it traditionally did in times of financial crisis - by sending the tax collectors out and landing anyone who looked like they might have a few Euros with a big bill. A friend's mum who rented a converted garden shed to friends occasionally in the summer was landed with a five figure demand, with the assumption that she must have been booked solid at €100/night. So the economy ground to a halt - building stopped and even weddings were cancelled. Even big companies like Danone got fed up - it transferred all but essential activities to Bulgaria!














