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Plans for faster trains and 30 new stations
As at 30th January 2025 23:11 GMT
 
Plans for faster trains and 30 new stations
Posted by ChrisB at 19:55, 28th January 2025
 
From the BBC

Major plans to nearly halve rail journey times between cities and rural spots across the West have been shared.

Under the proposals, 30 new stations will be built, an additional 23 services per hour will be launched and six stations will be upgraded across the south west of England and south Wales.

If approved, the Western Gateway Partnership's Rail Deal, external will see journeys from Bristol to London reduced to an hour, and Bristol to Cardiff shortened to 30 minutes.

Sarah Williams-Gardener, chair of the partnership, said the area is "poised to be the fastest-growing region outside of London".

Leaders of the partnership gathered in Cardiff on Tuesday to launch the deal, which could cost up to £11bn and be partly funded by central government.

If delivered, organisers believe it will add an extra £17bn to the UK economy and could see an extra 248,000 people connected to stations in rural areas including south Wales, Gloucestershire, Wiltshire and Somerset.

"It [south Wales and the west of England] has not had the critical investment in public transport infrastructure that other areas of the country have seen, particularly in rail," Ms Williams-Gardener said.

"This Rail Deal is deliverable and proportionate to the extraordinary offer that our economy presents to the UK."

Dan Okey from Great Western Railway said they have "worked with partners for several years" on the plans and welcome the "collective ambition for investment".

"We know that rail connectivity plays a vital role in supporting our communities and the plans for sustainable economic growth," he said.

Improving the rail network could also help to shift freight from roads to rail, reducing carbon emissions, the deal's report states.

As part of their ambitions to reach net zero, leaders hope to "address the gaps in electrification that lead to a high proportion of diesel services being run" across the area, the deal's report states.

The Western Gateway is made up of local authorities, businesses and universities from across the south west of England and south Wales.

A full Report, external on the deal proposals was published on Tuesday.

It sure was, accidentally dated March 2024, whereas it is dated March 2025 here

https://western-gateway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Western-Gateway-Rail-Vision-Phase-2-Main-Report_V7.0-FWedits.pdf (74 pages)

Re: Plans for faster trains and 30 new stations
Posted by eightonedee at 22:15, 28th January 2025
 
Sadly, in light of recent apparent comments by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, I cannot see much (any?) of this being funded before the next General Election.

Re: Plans for faster trains and 30 new stations
Posted by grahame at 08:54, 29th January 2025
 
Sadly, in light of recent apparent comments by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, I cannot see much (any?) of this being funded before the next General Election.

To add some comment in confusion - this is the Western Gateway Partnership rather that the Western Gateway subNational Transport Body .   The Partnership includes South Wales and Swindon but does not include Dorset or BPC ... the STB includes BPC and Dorset but not South Wales nor Swindon.    Neither should be confused with WECA which is a member of both, Wessex which overlaps again in a different way, or Western Peninsular which is the sticky out bit that again has some overlaps.

Re: Plans for faster trains and 30 new stations
Posted by anthony215 at 09:01, 29th January 2025
 
Sadly, in light of recent apparent comments by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, I cannot see much (any?) of this being funded before the next General Election.

I think we might see Portishead get greenlight as compared to other projects it's small change and does provide a big economic boost to the region

Re: Plans for faster trains and 30 new stations
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 09:36, 29th January 2025
 
All very lovely I'm sure but how are these Spotty Herberts allowed to get away with multiple references to 'South West England' when Cornwall & Devon are conspicuous by their absence (apart from a passing reference to Exeter)?

Free copies of 'English Geography for Dummies' all round.

A former employer of mine had a business area that they called 'Severnside' and this + South Wales would be much closer to reality.

Re: Plans for faster trains and 30 new stations
Posted by ellendune at 19:30, 29th January 2025
 
All very lovely I'm sure but how are these Spotty Herberts allowed to get away with multiple references to 'South West England' when Cornwall & Devon are conspicuous by their absence (apart from a passing reference to Exeter)?

Free copies of 'English Geography for Dummies' all round.

A former employer of mine had a business area that they called 'Severnside' and this + South Wales would be much closer to reality.

Because so far as central government is concerned there are nine regions in England:

  • London
  • North East
  • North West
  • Yorkshire and The Humber
  • East Midlands
  • West Midlands
  • East of England
  • South East
  • South West

Now if you want the South West only to apply to Devon and Cornwall what region will Wiltshire, Dorset, Somerset, Gloucestershire, Bristol  be in?

Re: Plans for faster trains and 30 new stations
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:21, 29th January 2025
 

Now if you want the South West only to apply to Devon and Cornwall what region will Wiltshire, Dorset, Somerset, Gloucestershire, Bristol be in?


They will be in limbo. 

Re: Plans for faster trains and 30 new stations
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 13:14, 30th January 2025
 
.....Now if you want the South West only to apply to Devon and Cornwall what region will Wiltshire, Dorset, Somerset, Gloucestershire, Bristol  be in?.....

I don't. Dorset & Somerset I very definitely regard as part of South West England. Since the government have recognised East Of England as a region would it not make sense to put Wilshire, Gloucestershire and Bristol into a new corresponding West Of England area.

Re: Plans for faster trains and 30 new stations
Posted by Red Squirrel at 16:42, 30th January 2025
 
Sadly, in light of recent apparent comments by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, I cannot see much (any?) of this being funded before the next General Election.

To add some comment in confusion - this is the Western Gateway Partnership rather that the Western Gateway subNational Transport Body .   The Partnership includes South Wales and Swindon but does not include Dorset or BPC ... the STB includes BPC and Dorset but not South Wales nor Swindon.    Neither should be confused with WECA which is a member of both, Wessex which overlaps again in a different way, or Western Peninsular which is the sticky out bit that again has some overlaps.

Also worth pointing out that the future of the WG Partnership is... uncertain.

 
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