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Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
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Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:58, 28th April 2012
 
From the Bristol Post:

The company which owns Temple Meads has drawn up a multi-million pound plan to transform Isambard Kingdom Brunel's iconic station.

The station is owned by Network Rail and the organisation has announced it is to launch a feasibility study into its ambitious plans.


An artists's impression of the redevelopment of the Temple Meads area in Bristol

The work will coincide with the ^1 billion electrification of the Great Western line between Bristol and London.

As part of the scheme the approach to the station is to be closed off to traffic and turned into a pedestrian- friendly piazza. And there are also plans to create a new main entrance to the station at the side of the building. The move will mean the entrance would be in the same spot originally planned by Brunel.

The redevelopment work is also being planned to coincide with the creation of a new Enterprise Zone and is expected to be completed by 2018.

More than nine million passengers use the station every year and that total is expected to increase by around 50 per cent over the next decade.

The electrification of the Great Western Railway will mean that trains will arrive in Bristol from the capital every 15 minutes. Two disused platforms are to be reopened and a new terminus built for the London services. There are also hopes that rail links between Bristol, South Wales, the South West and the North will be improved.

A new subway under the existing forecourt is also on the cards, complete with shops and concession stands. It is hoped that improvement and refurbishment work can be carried out on the ornate facade of the station.

Work is also being carried out on platforms and junctions so the number of trains coming into the station can be increased.

A spokesman for Network Rail said: "Temple Meads is located right in the heart of the new Enterprise Zone and is among the busiest and fastest growing rail interchanges in the country. The rail industry, with support from the Greater Bristol area, including the West of England Local Enterprise Partnership, is currently developing a strategy to transform Bristol Temple Meads station into a world-class gateway for the city by the end of the decade."

If all goes to plan the refurbishment will start in the spring of 2014 and would be completed by 2018, when the new super-fast service between London and Bristol is launched.

The Post revealed some details of the new Enterprise Zone yesterday. An official launch for the zone was taking place today at a temporary circus tent which has been erected on land normally used as a car park next to the station.

The Local Enterprise Partnership is the driving force behind the ambitious scheme which could create up to 20,000 new jobs in the city.

Coln Skellett, the chairman of the of the LEP, said: "What we want is a world-class station to welcome people travelling to Bristol to do business with companies in the Enterprise Zone. Temple Meads has been in need of some attention for several years and we want to see it restored back to its former glory."

Work by developers TCN UK has already started on Collett House, which is next to the station, to turn it into a creative and digital campus, called Temple Studios. The scheme follows the first phase of their same company's Temple Gate project, which started with the redevelopment of the historic Bristol and Exeter House next to the current station approach.

As reported in the Post, the Government agency the Homes and Community Association has bought Brunel's Old Station building for ^5 million.

It will hand over the building to the city council and it will be used as a conference centre and hub for new businesses looking to move into the Enterprise Zone.

The nearby Pest Control Depot in Cattle Market Road is also being demolished to make way for a new bridge, which will connect the site earmarked for the long-awaited indoor arena to the Enterprise Zone and the rest of the city.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ellendune at 10:57, 5th May 2012
 
Network Rail Announce proposal to redevelop Bristol Temple Meads

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/Our-vision-for-transforming-Bristol-Temple-Meads-into-a-world-class-railway-hub/


We aim to expand the station to ease congestion and provide excellent connectivity to London, the South West, Wales and the North.

Patrick Hallgate, our route managing director for Western said: ^Growing Bristol^s railway is vital to the success of the city^s new enterprise zone. A robust rail infrastructure is vital to a thriving economy and the rail industry is poised to support Bristol with an integrated rail strategy.

^Bristol Temple Meads is located right at the heart of the enterprise zone and is among the busiest and fastest growing rail interchanges on the Western route, receiving more than nine million passengers on average every year. Redeveloping the station into a world-class rail gateway, with excellent rail links, will be significant to help position the new business district as an ideal location for investment, whilst boosting economic growth and catering for growing rail demand.^

Feasibility study

We're leading a high-level feasibility study currently being carried out to determine the validity of this proposal, which is subject to Government funding.

Our proposal includes:

Station capacity improvements to ease current and predicted passenger congestion
A new eastern station access to ease congestion and provide a convenient link across and around Temple Quarter
A light and airy subway extension under the existing forecourt to provide a welcoming environment and improve retail opportunities for local businesses, whilst preserving the vistas of the historic grade 1 listed structure
Redeveloping the Digby Wyatt shed to bring it back to its former usage and reinstating two disused platforms for more train services

Additional improvements

We also recommend a number of improvements to the infrastructure to provide better journey times and more space, as well as flexibility on the railway around Bristol.

These recommendations include remodelling a key junction into the station area, additional infrastructure on the line to Bristol Parkway and improving the line-speed to the south west.


Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ellendune at 11:04, 5th May 2012
 
Complementary article in the Bristol Post

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Temple-Quarter-Enterprise-Zone-bring-jobs-new/story-15918850-detail/story.html


Temple Quarter Enterprise Zone could bring jobs and new arena to Bristol

BRISTOL'S economy could be transformed and thousands of new jobs created under a new masterplan revealed today by the Post.

The city's Temple Quarter Enterprise Zone will be officially launched tomorrow ^ and with it, a blueprint for the Temple Meads area which includes a complete revamp of the city's main station and plans for a long-awaited indoor arena.

The team behind the ambitious scheme has come up with a 25-year vision designed to breathe new life into large chunks of the city and create a vibrant business, commercial and shopping district.

New squares and public spaces, a marina, roads and infrastructure are included.

The zone, drawn up by a partnership involving business leaders and the city council, comes with perks such as relaxed planning conditions, concessions on business rates and access to ultra-fast broadband.

The team behind the scheme wants to use potential income from the area to raise ^200 million worth of funding to help pay for infrastructure work.

The scheme will be officially launched tomorrow at an event at a temporary circus tent next to the station, which will be used to stage events throughout the summer. The aim is to give the new area a running start and attract interest from investors.

The creation of the Temple Meads Enterprise Zone was first announced by Chancellor George Osborne in last year's Budget.

The ultimate aim is to create 17,000 new jobs and bring 400 new firms to the city over the next two decades. The city's Local Enterprise Partnership, the organisation which is masterminding the scheme, has high hopes that the BBC will move its Bristol operation from Whiteladies Road on to vacant land next to the station and discussions have been taking place for several months.

The other major element of the scheme is a plan to build a 12,000-seat indoor arena on vacant land behind the station. The former diesel depot site was originally owned by the now-axed South West Regional Development Agency, which pumped ^20 million into the project, only to then decide it was not viable.

But the LEP, which has taken over the agency's development role in Bristol, has come up with a cheaper alternative arena scheme and says several operators are already interested.

The planned redevelopment of Temple Meads station has been included in the scheme and the idea is to completely refurbish the historic building. A new platform is planned in Brunel's original Passenger Shed for the service linking Bristol to London and the aim is to shift the main entrance of the building to where the long-stay car park now stands, creating a passenger hub to connect rail and bus services. Once electrification of the Great Western line is completed, high speed trains will run to London every 15 minutes.

The Paintworks project in Brislington is also part of the Enterprise Zone, along with a strip of land for creative companies, dubbed the "media mile".

The final strand of the project is the redevelopment of the St Philip's area to make it more attractive to businesses.

Colin Skellett, pictured, the chairman of the LEP, said: "What we want is to have a rail connection which will mean people will be able to travel to Paris in four hours.

"We want a modern and efficient transport system which will see people arriving into Bristol right into the heart of a vibrant business, commercial and leisure district to rival any city in the world.

"There is no other major city in the UK that does not have an arena and we want to address that situation."

He described the BBC as a "cornerstone of the Enterprise Zone".

City Council Leader Barbara Janke said: "Bristol has a huge amount to offer potential businesses wishing to invest. With its simplified planning and business rate discounts, the Enterprise Zone offers an exciting investment opportunity at the heart of the city and the South West region."

The Homes and Communities Agency, which owns three pieces of land around the station, has spent ^5 million on Brunel's Old Station and the derelict Pest Control Depot in Cattle Market Road.

Part of the listed Old Station building will be used as a conference venue and a centre for new businesses.

Organisations which have agreed to lend their help and expertise to the scheme include the major banks, stockbroker Hargreaves Lansdown and Bristol University. The University of the West of England, IBM, the Watershed and media umbrella group Bristol Media are also involved.

Refurbishment work has also started on Collett House next to the station and talks are taking place with the owners of the of derelict Royal Mail sorting office with the aim of turning the building into a brand new office block.

A spokeswoman for the BBC said: "At the moment we are looking at potential sites for re-location within the city, including the newly created Enterprise Zone, and have not ruled anything out."

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ellendune at 22:15, 30th September 2012
 
I was standing on Platform 15 waiting for the 18:00 this evening and it struck me that if a thin sliver of the old post office site were reserved it would be quite easy to have a platform 16.  does anyone know if this possiblity is being included in the redevelopment proposal, even if it is only to reserve the land for future use?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by tramway at 17:01, 2nd October 2012
 
I suspect that there is sufficient capacity both at Temple Meads and within the greater Bristol area that additional land probably isn't required.

Platform 1 extended into the old shed, and a new platform 0, re-open Platform 2, and there is also options I'm sure to remodel around 15.

Once Filton bank is 4 tracked there's scope for Lawrence Hill improvements as a better interchange from the east if rhubarb curve is utilised.

Although I don't use it there must be options for improvements at Bedminster to serve inbound from the west.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by mfpa at 21:56, 4th October 2012
 
All looks really positive, but why not abandon Temple Meads and build a modern station near Dr Day's Junction?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ellendune at 22:25, 4th October 2012
 
All looks really positive, but why not abandon Temple Meads and build a modern station near Dr Day's Junction?

Temple Meads is already a long way from the City Centre. Why would you want to move it any further away? In the 18th century the Barton Hill area was a merchant's country estate!

I suspect that there is sufficient capacity both at Temple Meads and within the greater Bristol area that additional land probably isn't required.

Platform 1 extended into the old shed, and a new platform 0, re-open Platform 2, and there is also options I'm sure to remodel around 15.

Once Filton bank is 4 tracked there's scope for Lawrence Hill improvements as a better interchange from the east if rhubarb curve is utilised.

Although I don't use it there must be options for improvements at Bedminster to serve inbound from the west.

Yes there are plenty of bay platforms, and the new London services can use those that will be restored in the old train shed, but the Bristol Metro proposals call for more through platforms.  

Why would you want passenger services to go round the east curve and not serve Temple Meads.  Do you think no-one wants to go to the city centre?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by mfpa at 14:48, 7th October 2012
 
Temple Meads is already a long way from the City Centre. Why would you want to move it any further away?

You would want to move the station slightly to cut out all the time wasted on trains changing ends at Temple Meads as they come in from the north and go out towards the east (and vice versa).

Cabot Circus is virtually equi-distant from Temple Meads, Dr Day's Junction, and Lawrence Hill. The Colston Hall is only around 600 yards further from Dr Day's Junction than it is from Temple Meads. And those that didn't want to walk could look for a closer station on the Bristol Metro services.

: ellendune
Yes there are plenty of bay platforms, and the new London services can use those that will be restored in the old train shed, but the Bristol Metro proposals call for more through platforms.

Building a new station near Dr Day's Junction should be able to provide the extra through platforms.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ellendune at 15:28, 7th October 2012
 
Barton Hill looks very nice as a location an interchange station, and if Bristol was simply a place where people changed from one train to another it would makes sense.  However, I don't know if you had noticed, but quite a few people work there during the day and go back home at night and many of them use the train to get there, others want to go shopping in the city centre and use the train.  If you move the main station in Bristol to Dr Days Junction then the vast majority of the commuters and shopper would either use the car - in which case the shoppers would probably go to Cribbs Causeway instead. 

Last Sunday I walked from College Green to catch a train back to Swindon (Distance just over 1 mile).  If I had had to walk to  Dr Day's Junction it would have been 2 miles and through some less savory parts of town. Certainly would not do it after dark.  I think I would have taken the car all the way from Swindon.

Forgive me but I cannot think of a City other than London where the main railway station is 2 miles out of the city centre.  Temple Meads is on the edge of the city centre, moving it another mile to the east would be a disaster for rail travel in Bristol.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TerminalJunkie at 23:42, 8th October 2012
 
Forgive me but I cannot think of a City other than London where the main railway station is 2 miles out of [Bristol] city centre.

: http://visitbristol.co.uk/about-bristol/travel-and-maps/getting-to-bristol/
Bristol Temple Meads is the main railway station, situated approximately 15 minutes' walk from the City Centre.

Do Bristolians really walk that quickly?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ellendune at 23:57, 8th October 2012
 
Forgive me but I cannot think of a City other than London where the main railway station is 2 miles out of [Bristol] city centre.

: http://visitbristol.co.uk/about-bristol/travel-and-maps/getting-to-bristol/
Bristol Temple Meads is the main railway station, situated approximately 15 minutes' walk from the City Centre.

Do Bristolians really walk that quickly?

1 mile at 4 miles an hour!  That is a brisk walk I know but still a walk.   I know I took and extreme end College Green, but that is where the City Council is based.  However my point was about moving it to Barton Hill a further mile away. 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by JayMac at 00:17, 9th October 2012
 
And those that didn't want to walk could look for a closer station on the Bristol Metro services.

And those that don't want to walk the the centre, Park Street, Harbourside etc etc? What Bristol Metro service will suit them? Just about bearable at under a mile on foot from Temple Meads. Much less bearable at around 1.7 miles from Barton Hill.

Do Bristolians really walk that quickly?

I think you misunderstood. The station would be near two miles from the centre if it were to relocate to the Barton Hill area.

It takes this slightly portly near 40 year old 12 minutes to walk from the City Centre (St Augustine's Parade) or the retail centre (Broadmead) to Temple Meads. And that's nothing more than my usual amble.

I too see little need to relocate the station to Dr Day's Junction.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by chuffed at 09:01, 9th October 2012
 
Hear, hear BNM !

Made my day ..as rather more than slightly portly, and pushing 60, it also takes me 12 mins to walk from @ Bristol to TM ...over Pero's bridge across Queen Square, SMR and up the incline. Of course some of us put all the calories back on in Wetherspoons...

On the foodie note , has anyone else had a shock going into the transport caff at TM ... turned into a Parisian nighclub with black tiles on the wall, downlighters, shelves and perchy stools....

All we need now is Hugh hefners bunny girls ....

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Phil at 13:04, 9th October 2012
 
I cannot think of a City other than London where the main railway station is 2 miles out of the city centre. 


My home town of Wells. Nearest station now is 15 miles away in Castle Cary.


Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by phile at 19:48, 9th October 2012
 
It must be borne in mind that the station must be by the railway   !!!

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by grahame at 20:25, 9th October 2012
 
It must be borne in mind that the station must be by the railway   !!!

There are exceptions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmouth_railway_station

But I would agree in the case of Bristol!

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 20:52, 17th October 2012
 
There is already a station close to Dr Days Junction - Lawrence Hill. I agree that no more is needed than already announced.

The plans for the subway at Temple Meads seem to suggest that a great deal of digging will be needed, at a cost of many many pounds. Also, we will have many months of disruption, all of which will be worthwhile when it is finished. I like the idea for the new entrance, and also for the access from the other side, where the rat catchers live currently.

I hope the access problems at other stations are also addressed. On the way back from Shire last week, we stopped at Stapleton Road, to pick up an elderly lady on her way to Lawrence Hill. She had got off a train that didn't stop there. I had to get out to give her a bunk-up, and again at Lawrence Hill to help her off. The step down to the platform at both is enormous, with a sizeable gap - I hadn't realised how bad it is. The lady asked the conductor how she could complain. She was told that the staff have been complaining about it for years. She was beginning her ascent of the stairs as the train pulled out, and might still be there now.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 01:13, 14th November 2012
 
From the Bristol Post:

^100 million promised for Temple Meads revamp

A Government minister has announced that ^100 million is to be spent on bringing Bristol's Temple Meads station into the modern age ^ with more cash on the way.

The money will be divided between upgrading the station and opening up two unused platforms for the new electrified trains which will operate between Bristol and London.


Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin at Temple Meads station

Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin came to Bristol for the cabinet meeting and met bosses from First Great Western and Network Rail at the station.

As well as revealing that ^100 million will be spent on Brunel's Victorian masterpiece the minister added that he is looking forward to working with the city's first elected mayor.

During the visit it emerged that Network Rail, which operates the station, has put ^100 million to one side to pay for a major revamp of the historic building. And more money is also expected to be spent on creating a new entrance at the side of the building and turning the current approach into a public square.

Mr McLoughlin said: "This is a fantastic facility and a fantastic station and there has been a big increase in demand for rail travel in recent years. It is fantastic that such a great city as Bristol is going to get a great service to match its aspirations."

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 00:05, 19th November 2012
 
From the Bristol Post:

^100 million promised for Temple Meads revamp

A Government minister has announced that ^100 million is to be spent on bringing Bristol's Temple Meads station into the modern age ^ with more cash on the way.

The money will be divided between upgrading the station and opening up two unused platforms for the new electrified trains which will operate between Bristol and London.


Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin at Temple Meads station

Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin came to Bristol for the cabinet meeting and met bosses from First Great Western and Network Rail at the station.

As well as revealing that ^100 million will be spent on Brunel's Victorian masterpiece the minister added that he is looking forward to working with the city's first elected mayor.

During the visit it emerged that Network Rail, which operates the station, has put ^100 million to one side to pay for a major revamp of the historic building. And more money is also expected to be spent on creating a new entrance at the side of the building and turning the current approach into a public square.

Mr McLoughlin said: "This is a fantastic facility and a fantastic station and there has been a big increase in demand for rail travel in recent years. It is fantastic that such a great city as Bristol is going to get a great service to match its aspirations."

Fantastic.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 01:19, 29th January 2013
 
From the Bristol Post:

Giant plant appears at Temple Mead station

Passengers arriving at Temple Meads Station were greeted by what appeared to be a bizarre sight - a giant plant growing out of the ground.

The inflatable was part of an art project designed to attract people and businesses to the new Enterprise Zone around the station.


Giant plant appears at Temple Meads

Two new artworks by Bristol based Filthy Luker and Inky were unveiled yesterday as part of the new campaign.

The installations are part of the BTQ Commissions project and aim to provide a better welcome to the city at Temple Meads and raise awareness over the new Enterprise Zone.

A competition was also launched at the station by Bristol Festival of Ideas director Andrew Kelly to help visitors learn about the area and guide them on their way.

Proposals include short films, posters, cartoons, short stories, street art or drama performances. The Creative Gateway competition will give ten awards of ^500 for project proposals to be developed.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by JayMac at 01:32, 29th January 2013
 
Just right for scaring the little ones in the next door nursery. 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by chuffed at 08:58, 29th January 2013
 
The nursery staff could always use it as a lifesize prop for'Jack and the beanstalk' ..or is that not allowed on pc racist.sexist grounds these days ( 'Englishman') or even vegetarian cruelty ? ('Chop!)

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:45, 9th March 2013
 
From The Post (Bristol):

Bristol City Council has bought an office block near Temple Meads railway station for ^18 million as part of a massive overhaul of council offices.

But what should it be called?


100 Temple Street

The former London Life headquarters are uninspiringly known as 100 Temple Street. But the office block is capable of eventually housing 2,000 staff who are currently based in a varied collection of 35 buildings throughout the city. The long-term aim is to bring all the admin staff together mostly into 100 Temple Street and City Hall in College Green which will undergo a refurbishment of nearly ^8 million.

We are asking readers to suggest a new name for the office block which befits its new high-profile role.

Bristol mayor George Ferguson said: ^It makes complete sense for the council to vastly reduce the number of offices it currently owns or leases across the city and consolidate into a few core offices. The location of 100 Temple Street is very strategic next to Temple meads and the planned Metrobus interchange, as well as being right at the heart of our ambitious plans for Redcliffe and the whole Enterprise Zone area.^

He said they looked at various other offices in the city which the council could have bought - some of which could have been cheaper - but this office block trumped the others, mostly due to its location near Temple Meads. In the years to come, Mr Ferguson sees council staff travelling to work on the metro system to Temple Meads and walking a few hundred yards to their office.

The council could also not have bought a better time due to the recession which has seen the bottom fall out of the commercial property market. It is understood that the purchase price was less than half what the owners, Aviva Investors Property Trust, paid for the office block at the height of the boom in 2005.

The purchase also rules out converting an empty bonded warehouse in the Cumberland Basin which was suggested last year. Mr Ferguson said: ^We looked carefully at A Bond but it was not right for this move. It would have been more expensive, would have provided less functional workspace and was in an inappropriate location. However, there remains a great opportunity for A Bond to be developed in partnership as a residential or mixed use development as part of a wider regeneration of Cumberland Basin.^

The refurb of City Hall will take about six to nine months and although all the staff will be moved out during the process, it will still be used for council meetings and events. Although it is a Grade II* listed building, City Hall is woefully inadequate as council offices in the 21st century. The makeover will see the removal of partitioning to create open space offices, new cabling to accommodate upgraded software, a new customer service point to replace Phoenix Court in New Bond Street and even a cafe and meeting rooms for clubs and groups.

^I really want to see City Hall used in the same way as in many European cities so it becomes a market place for people to meet,^ Mr Ferguson said. The overhaul of council offices will cost a whopping ^70 million in outlay - but council officers have conservatively estimated that savings on running costs will give a net ^profit^ during the next 25 years of ^40 million.

Mr Ferguson said Bristol was playing ^catch up^ with other councils such as Birmingham, Wiltshire and Swindon which had already started the process of rationalising its office space. He said: ^This is not about providing comfort or luxury for council staff - it^s about running services as efficiently as we possibly can in good working conditions.^

The council currently uses 53,000 sq metres of office space in the city which will be reduced to 32,000 sq metres although Mr Ferguson is asking for even more savings.

Council staff are expected to move into 100 Temple Street from the beginning of next year which will open the way for City Hall to be refurbished. It will also mean that some council buildings will be available for other possible uses - including new primary schools.

The office shake up which has been worked on by a team of officers for the past few years due to its complexity, is being paid for with prudential borrowing - low-cost loans from the Government which are only available to local authorities.

The purchase of 100 Temple Street has already been welcomed by business leaders and property experts in the city.

Ned Cussen, on behalf of the Bristol Property Agents Association, said: ^This is good news for all of Bristol and I commend the initiative from the council. It will enable the council to deliver more efficient services in a first class building. It is also a great location for both staff and visitors. 100 Temple Street is a quality building and the deal represents good value for money. Whichever way you look at it, this a major property deal for Bristol and gives a great lift to the local economy.

"More so, it uses vacant space and gives a great boost to the Enterprise Zone at Temple Meads. The zone will be one of the major focuses for economic activity in the Greater Bristol area in the next decade. This deal makes far more sense than trying to convert the red brick Tobacco Bond at Cumberland Basin to offices.^

Colin Skellett, chairman of Wessex Water and the Local Enterprise Partnership, said: ^This is great news for Bristol and makes eminent strategic sense in terms of its location alongside the Enterprise Zone with its great regional transport links. It is encouraging to see the mayor driving these efficiency measures through in the intests of more effective and economic governance.^

Phil Smith, MD of Business West, said: ^We applaud George for taking decisive action to implement more efficient and effective ways of accommodating council staff. Whilst this may seem obvious and a rleatively minor decision, it will actually provide some important benefits. More staff housed in fewer offices and less space will save the council money at a time when budgets are particularly tight - a saving of around ^40 million over 25 years is a significant amount that can now be used to help create jobs and improve the environment of the city.

^The idea of relocating council staff close to Temple Meads and the Enterprise Zone shows the mayor^s commitment to further regenerating this area and creating a focus for activity and enterprise, hopefully this will encourage others to do the same.^

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by swrural at 11:34, 10th March 2013
 
Good news for those of us on here wanting the nearby Plot 6 opposite, next to Brunel's station (or was it  plot 7?) to be the transport hub of Bristol.  I don't actually see what's wrong with its present name.  I attended a meeting there once, and yes, it was quite swish.

Actually the site was originally covered by part of Mardon, Sons and Hall which was the firm that made the fag packets for Wills / Imperial Tobacco (later absorbed by them).  I am afraid the Luftwaffe 'knocked it about a bit'. 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 14:43, 29th March 2013
 
I am afraid the Luftwaffe 'knocked it about a bit'. 


The West of England Partnership has taken up where the Luftwaffe left off.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ellendune at 22:44, 26th April 2013
 
Went through Temple Meads today.

On the way in I was reminded that an extra couple of metres on the South side of P15 would make a P16 possible in the future.

Then I looked at the space and tracks between P3/5 and thought wouldn't it be much more satisfactory to use that space - under the roof - for passengers and have the through roads on the south side.


Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 00:51, 27th April 2013
 
Went through Temple Meads today.

On the way in I was reminded that an extra couple of metres on the South side of P15 would make a P16 possible in the future.

Then I looked at the space and tracks between P3/5 and thought wouldn't it be much more satisfactory to use that space - under the roof - for passengers and have the through roads on the south side.


A good idea, but I have a feeling it would entail nearly as much work as at Reading, and Bristol is too far down a very long list for investment like that.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by JayMac at 01:36, 27th April 2013
 
Having up freight traffic cross the throat to access the Up Filton would seriously limit capacity as well.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 09:09, 27th April 2013
 
...Bristol is too far down a very long list for investment like that.

After the excitement of St Pancras and Kings Cross, it's been disappointing to see how provincial stations are lucky to pick up a few crumbs of investment. The plans for Worcester Foregate St seem parsimonious, and even Reading lacks the grand entrance it probably deserves.

Nonetheless (and maybe I'm being naive) I have high hopes for the future of Temple Meads; its Grade I listed status should hopefully allow additional sources of funding to be tapped into. I accept that it is not going to get a Reading-style track expansion (is it a bottleneck?), but I think it is reasonable to expect that they do a decent job on the building.

A casual visitor may not appreciate that nearly half of the 1870s extension to Brunel's station was demolished when the signal box was built in the 1960s. I have seen rather sketchy plans suggesting that this roof will be rebuilt in some form when the old platforms are brought back into use; surely this needs to be a high-quality restoration to more or less exactly how it was before?

If you will indulge this flight of fancy a little further, it strikes me that it would be fantastic to have a glass wall between the Brunel part of the Old Station (the bit where they hold the Beer Festival) and the extension. This would allow passengers could see the old hammerbeam roof from the new platforms, and conference-goers could see out into the station.


Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ellendune at 09:31, 27th April 2013
 
Having up freight traffic cross the throat to access the Up Filton would seriously limit capacity as well.

I suppose the best (and expensive) solution to that would be a flyover from St Phillips Marsh to the Filton lines, but there would have to be a lot of freight to justify that. 

On another matter is the construction of the showcase cinema over the site of the old East to South Curve to St Phillips Marsh the most stupid example of the short sighted sale of railway land in our region?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by trainer at 09:32, 27th April 2013
 
If you will indulge this flight of fancy a little further, it strikes me that it would be fantastic to have a glass wall between the Brunel part of the Old Station (the bit where they hold the Beer Festival) and the extension. This would allow passengers could see the old hammerbeam roof from the new platforms, and conference-goers could see out into the station.

Good suggestion RS, although I'm not sure how practical glass and diesel exhaust is in close proximity (I know electric will be partially substituting in due course).  There are glass screens some distance from the ends of the platforms at Paddington which seem to fare well. Anything to show off that wonderful space to as many people as possible and of course to display the continuing transport use at Temple Meads is worth considering.

Some of those hiring out the space may not want the great unwashed looking in on their conferences or exhibitions which they are charging a hefty whack for, so a partial glass screen could show off the heritage assets while maintaining some privacy for the exhibition area.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 13:40, 27th April 2013
 
I accept that it is not going to get a Reading-style track expansion (is it a bottleneck?), but I think it is reasonable to expect that they do a decent job on the building.

I think the northbound exit should be Four Track, Now! The forthcoming revamp of Dr Days Junction, with the two extra tracks, will present more opportunities, not just at Temple Meads, but at all the stations prior to Filton Abbey Wood. At present, it is a bottleneck. I often walk over the road bridge above Dr Days, and see one or more trains waiting for a platform. That said, they're not usually there long.

There will obviously be changes, as the old Digby Wyatt shed is brought back into use for the London via Parkway IEPs. Whether it will be deemed useful to services to readjust the other platforms remains to be seen. I would like to think a bay platform 2 could be reopened for Portishead services at the same time.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by John R at 13:44, 27th April 2013
 
I would like to think a bay platform 2 could be reopened for Portishead services at the same time.

Isn't the idea to have through services to destinations north of Temple Meads? That would be much more useful than spending money reinstating a bay and forcing people to change. And more productive in terms of rolling stock use.

Edited to fix quotes - bobm

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 14:07, 27th April 2013
 
I would like to think a bay platform 2 could be reopened for Portishead services at the same time.

Isn't the idea to have through services to destinations north of Temple Meads? That would be much more useful than spending money reinstating a bay and forcing people to change. And more productive in terms of rolling stock use.

Edited to fix quotes - bobm

Yes, my understanding is that Portishead trains will go on to Severn Beach. The alternate Severn Beach trains will go on to Bath - requiring a reversal presumably - though I suppose that doesn't necessitate a bay.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 14:08, 27th April 2013
 
AIUI, the plan is for a Portishead to Severn Beach train hourly, and a Portishead - Temple Meads hourly. The latter could use a bay platform, which surely would cost little to reinstate, and leave room for anything else to get past. I would really like to see platform 2 leading on to a tram-train track in Temple Meads approach, thence around Cabot Circus and the centre before heading up the Friary to rejoin by platform 1.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by SandTEngineer at 14:52, 27th April 2013
 
I have been told that a new bay platform is not (currently) included in the Bristol Area Resignalling project.  However, mid-platform signals are, so plenty of room for properly done platform sharing instead (get your photographs of the unique mid-platform X signs soon ).

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 15:02, 27th April 2013
 
Oh well; maybe the Severn Beach - Bath and the Portishead - Temple Meads trains will kiss at SandTEngineer's big X on Platform 3! It would seem sensible to make these services connect if possible.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 20:38, 27th April 2013
 
Is that the big X between platforms 3 and 4?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ReWind at 23:04, 28th April 2013
 
Having up freight traffic cross the throat to access the Up Filton would seriously limit capacity as well.

It's surprising that there isn't some sort of freight "by pass" around the Temple Meads area with the ever increasing freight traffic that now passes through the station.

Portbury Docks are chucking out more freight than ever, including a car train I see most evenings on my way home that's too big to fit on the through line without fouling the points at the west end.   The container terminal at Parson Street is growing all the time too, with an understanding that Freightliner want to continue growing and increasing services out of there but can't due to both limited capacity within the terminal and limited paths through Temple Meads.  Fairwater Yard at Taunton continues to chuck our regular engineers trains up to Bristol and the Midlands, including the High Output Ballast Cleaner (HOBC) trains which again, are too big to fit into the loop.  There is also Nuclear trains from Bridgwater, fuel trains to SPM and Laira, China Clay trains to the South West, Scrap Metal to Exeter and numerous light engine movements around the station.

With the commencement of electrification of the GWML and the planned increase in passenger services from Temple Meads, freight growth will be extremely limited around the city due to the limited paths and congestion through Temple Meads without a proper freight only route through the area.

Edit: VickiS - Clarifying acronym

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by JayMac at 23:31, 28th April 2013
 
There is in theory a bypass route, although whether it would solve problems of capacity or add to them I know not.

Freight from west of Temple Meads heading north, and vice versa, could go via Bristol West Junction, past St Phillips Marsh TMD, North Somerset Junction, the rhubarb curve, Dr Day's Junction and onto the Up Filton.

Whilst this avoids Temple Meads itself there would still be the problem of threading freight services across the various junctions between passenger services.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ReWind at 09:05, 29th April 2013
 
There is in theory a bypass route, although whether it would solve problems of capacity or add to them I know not.

Freight from west of Temple Meads heading north, and vice versa, could go via Bristol West Junction, past St Phillips Marsh TMD, North Somerset Junction, the rhubarb curve, Dr Day's Junction and onto the Up Filton.

Whilst this avoids Temple Meads itself there would still be the problem of threading freight services across the various junctions between passenger services.

I think that's a bit impractical though.  That's asking freight to cross over all lines at Bristol West Junction, head down a single track through a busy, working maintenance depot, cross over all lines at North Somerset Junction and again at Dr Days Junction, all the time never really exceeding 15mph.

Whilst the Bristol area may just be able to cope with the current level of freight traffic mixed in with the proposed level of service after electrification, if freight is indeed to grow in the coming years around the Bristol area, to which I can see a strong case that it could, a solution to take away freight from the Temple Meads area might be needed.

After all, how many cities and stations the size of Bristol Temple Meads have regular heavy freight pass through?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ReWind at 09:06, 29th April 2013
 
There is in theory a bypass route, although whether it would solve problems of capacity or add to them I know not.

Freight from west of Temple Meads heading north, and vice versa, could go via Bristol West Junction, past St Phillips Marsh TMD, North Somerset Junction, the rhubarb curve, Dr Day's Junction and onto the Up Filton.

Whilst this avoids Temple Meads itself there would still be the problem of threading freight services across the various junctions between passenger services.

I think that's a bit impractical though.  That's asking freight to cross over all lines at Bristol West Junction, head down a single track through a busy, working maintenance depot, cross over all lines at North Somerset Junction and again at Dr Days Junction, all the time never really exceeding 15mph.

Whilst the Bristol area may just be able to cope with the current level of freight traffic mixed in with the proposed level of service after electrification, if freight is indeed to grow in the coming years around the Bristol area, to which I can see a strong case that it could, a solution to take away freight from the Temple Meads area might be needed.

After all, how many cities and stations the size of Bristol Temple Meads have regular heavy freight pass through?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 18:06, 30th April 2013
 
It is a problem that will grow and grow. The IEP depot at Filton / Stoke Gifford will add to the traffic, and the deep sea container port at Avonmout may yet become a reality.

I understand that Parson Street Junction is due for remodelling with the resignalling project. Currently, it is a single lead, but it will be made double. The Freightliner depot currently connects only with the up relief. I believe that will be altered, for greater flexibility, and to take account of Portishead. North of Temple Meads, the only possible answer is Four Track, Now!

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by swrural at 09:47, 1st May 2013
 
Of course one can easily double the (SPM) Avoiding line.  One can also reconnect the east facing junction at Marsh Pond.  I took a photo of the multiplex cinema area from the ghastly spine road (very brave) and huge grid pylons cross the are between the cinema and the appalling OOT (out of town) shops area (Krispy Kreme etc, you could be in Fort Worth).

I am now going to try to upload it here.

No, it didn't work.  Can BobM or someone, pm me with how to stick a photo in the message please?

Most grateful.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by bobm at 10:03, 1st May 2013
 
PM duly sent - but for those wanting the same information here is a topic from "Help & Assistance" which may ...er help and assist   

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=3398.0

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by swrural at 11:34, 1st May 2013
 
Here goes then (the route where IIRC the Dean Single 'Duke of Connaught' took over from 'City of Truro' and broke the record Bristol to London (I think 99 minutes or thereabouts in 1904) and also a darn useful avoiding line for the Castle Cary route and the Midland route (when there was a Midland route).



The dreadful Spine road is fortunately high above the Marsh line and I am sure reconnection could be achieved.  It will one day.

You get history on GWCS too!

[edit] - modified to fix image formatting - Graham

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 21:42, 3rd May 2013
 
I often walk over that Spine Road bridge on my way from home to savage travail at work. It is interesting at times, but a little unsettling when busy. I share swrural's distaste for Avonmeads, with the exception of Marks & Sparks, and the cinema. The rest can go to blazes. I'm looking forward to seeing swrural's picture!

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 20:51, 29th May 2013
 
Bristol City Council have applied (to themselves, of course) for planning permission to demolish the 19th-century bits of the (derelict) GWR Staff Association building at Temple Meads (go to http://planningonline.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/ and search for 13/02251/LD). The demolition of rest of it is covered by 12/04188/FB and 12/04189/LA.

No bad thing, I'd say: been an eyesore for years.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 21:44, 29th May 2013
 
They're not the only ones starting work around there. News comes to me in a press release from University of Bristol, of plans to create an Enterprise Hub in the Brunel Engine Shed.

Transformation of Engine Shed into enterprise hub gets underway

Press release issued 28 May 2013

Work to transform Brunel^s terminal for the Great Western Railway into a 21st century launch pad for a new generation of businesses is underway.

Rydon Construction has been appointed in a deal between Bristol City Council and the University of Bristol to refurbish Brunel^s Grade 1 Listed Engine Shed into a business and innovation centre for fast-growing technology firms.



The building will be transformed from its previous use, as the former home of the Empire and Commonwealth Museum, into a permanent base for 20 companies and will provide the resources and facilities for a further 40, including a business lounge at the centre of the building.

It will be managed by Bristol SETsquared Centre ^ the University^s double award-winning business incubator - who will take the majority of the space to provide premium serviced offices for its early-stage technology businesses.

Nick Sturge, Director of the Bristol SETsquared Centre which is currently based at University Gate East in Clifton, said: ^This is such an exciting project, both for the University^s SETsquared Centre but also for the Bristol and Bath city region, and we are delighted that work is now underway to deliver the iconic space that we have planned for.^

The project is funded principally by Bristol City Council and the University of Bristol, together with central government funding via City Deal. A total of ^1.5 million is being invested to breathe new life into the Engine Shed.

Paul Barber, South West Regional Director of Rydon Construction, said: "We welcome the challenge to work on this unique building and play our role, as a locally based contractor, in presenting Bristol as a focal point for UK business and innovation.

^Drawing on our experience on complex projects in this region, Rydon will work closely with SETsquared, the University of Bristol and the Council to ensure we manage the build considerately and respectfully so this Grade 1 Listed structure is preserved as it begins its new life.^

The building will also house the new West of England^s shared inward investment service Invest in Bristol and Bath.

Work to the Brunel building forms part of the Temple Quarter Enterprise Zone, a 70-hectare regeneration programme centred around Temple Meads railway station, to create a new, superbly connected entry to Bristol and a hub for creative, high technology, specialist engineering and low carbon companies in the centre of Bristol. Over the next 25 years, the Enterprise Zone aims to attract more than 400 firms and create over 17,000 new jobs.

This looks like the first scheme to take advantage of Enterprise Zone incentives and city deal money. I like the idea of the building being restored and used, and I'm sure the job will be done sympathetically. A modern hi-tech idea like this, though, needs a BRT stop nearby. They've missed a trick there.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TheLastMinute at 19:35, 5th July 2013
 
From the Bristol Post website...

: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/new-100m-vision-Bristol-s-Temple-Meads/story-19482490-detail/story.html
A new ^100m vision for Bristol's Temple Meads

A VISION of how Brunel^s historic Temple Meads Station could look in the future has been unveiled.

Network Rail, the landlords of the historic building, are planning a radical ^100 million revamp of the Victorian structure as part of work to regenerate the area around the station.


The new plan for Temple Meads

The improvements will be the biggest overhaul seen at the station for more than 140 years ^ and could even include the removal of the existing ramp leading up to the station.

The plans are still in a very early stage and discussions are due to take place with key organisations such as English Heritage but the outlines of the scheme are starting to emerge.

 
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The aim is to complete all the work by the end of 2019, two years after the electrification of the London to Bristol rail line has been completed.

Details emerged at a conference held in Brunel^s Passenger Shed yesterdayTHU.

Delegates were shown proposals which would include the creation of a new entrance at the side of the station building, a subway and a new glass front.

The early drawings also show plans for a new pedestrian square at the front of the station, which would replace the existing concourse.

Around 300 delegates at the conference looking at the progress being made in the Enterprise Zone were given a sneak preview of the station plans.

There were also updates on the work being done to bring a 12,000 seater stadium to Bristol. The audience was told negotiations with an operator were well under way. Work on improving on access to the land earmarked for the arena is due to start within a matter of months.

Mike Gallop, from Network Rail, is part of the team drawing up plans to transform Temple Meads.

He said: ^Temple Meads set the template for modern commercial stations across the world. It was built as a driver for trade and commerce and that blueprint is what we are trying to recreate today.

^We want to link Bristol to London and the rest of the country and, at the same time, we will be recreating the engine of trade and commerce.

^There is a case for Bristol Temple Meads to be redeveloped to meet future passenger demand and to unlock the potential of the land asset around it, so that it supports the aspirations of Bristol Enterprise Zone and city council.

^However, the task to do so will be enormous. There are the considerations of building on a live railway, meeting the government^s efficiencies target and overcoming constraints posed by a heritage structure.^

Paul Wilson, below, the chief executive of the Local Enterprise Partnership, is overseeing the Enterprise Zone and the work being done in the area.

He revealed that negotiations are ^very much^ in progress to bring in an operator to run the long-awaited indoor arena, in the hope that the 12,000-seater venue opens within four years^ time.

The plans will also include a new passenger interchange at the side of the station, which would connect Temple Meads to the rest of the city^s public transport network.

A spokesman for the enterprise zone said: ^The station approach ramp is extremely congested, with conflicting vehicle movements, which Network Rail and Bristol City Council are hoping to improve.

^A successful passenger transport interchange will provide a seamless end-to-end journey between all modes of transport, including cycling and walking.^

George Ferguson has already pledged that an arena will be built before his term as Bristol^s first elected mayor comes to an end.

A feasibility study has been carried out for an arena on the former diesel depot site near the station.

The study found that there is support and demand for an arena, along with interest from leading operators in the entertainment sector.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 00:35, 28th July 2013
 
At Temple Meads today during a cloudburst; I suddenly realised how badly neglected the roof is - more leaks than Julian Assange! Rain was pouring though in several places; I'm guessing that this was mostly down to blocked gutters. Sheets of water were streaming down the main wall into the western end of the subway, making the floor slippery and dangerous. Then I looked up at the main train shed roof, which I well remember after its restoration in (was it?) the 80's; I hadn't realised how filthy it has become.

Can we hope that when the wires come in and the mail conveyor is removed, they put aside a few quid to keep the roof clean and the gutters swept?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 02:12, 28th July 2013
 

Can we hope that when the wires come in and the mail conveyor is removed, they put aside a few quid to keep the roof clean and the gutters swept?

I would guess that the original design did not consider ease of maintenance using methods we would find economical and acceptable today. I hope someone does think about this particular ha'porth of tar.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by John R at 22:06, 28th July 2013
 
Not only the main train shed, but on some of the other platform canopies the glazed sections are so filthy that they no longer let in any light, and look as though moss has grown on them.  I appreciate it's probably not a simple job to clean them off, but when you think how proud NR and FGW are at the Span 4 restoration, maybe they should pay a bit more care to other aspects of their station infrastructure.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Pete Goodwin at 23:35, 28th February 2014
 
^21m Temple Quarter transport investment - so where's the interchange?   My 'Stockwood Pete' blog at http://stockwoodpete.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/whatever-isnt-happening-at-temple-meads.html

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by wabbit at 23:18, 1st March 2014
 
Haven't seen the plans yet, or anything nearing a "General Arrangement" concept drawing, but you'd sincerely hope that some kind of joined up transport plan would have some influence on the Temple Meads/quarter/arena redevelopment......

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Pete Goodwin at 20:58, 3rd March 2014
 
Apparently Plot 6, the obvious place for a bus/rail interchange that could share the station's new passenger facilities, is not in Network Rail's plans.   They have spoken, though, of an 'interchange' more like that in Old Market.   A couple of new bus stops, in fact!

I think the LEP, who are leading the 'partnership' of different public agencies, including Network Rail, that's building a 'strategic vision' for the whole Temple Quarter Enterprise Zone, don't have a proper transport hub on their agenda either.   The nearest we can get to their thinking is a 'fly-through' concept video complete with lots of artists impressions of waterside piazzas and coffee shops.   It's at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3hAC3NyIvk .  Quite entertaining as an example of its craft, but probably created more as a marketing tool than to inform.


Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:03, 3rd March 2014
 
Thank you for your very thought-provoking comments here, Pete Goodwin - and may I offer you a very warm welcome to the Coffee Shop forum! 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 22:57, 3rd March 2014
 
I echo Chris from Nailsea's welcome, Pete. I also followed the links from your Stockwood Pete blog for the Cabinet meeting, as I live close to the putative Callington Road link, formerly the railway. I am pleased that plans to use it for a two-lane road or a Bust Rabid Transit route have now been binned. A cyclepath, so long as it is done on the understanding that it can be brought back into public transport use in the future, is not a bad idea, and will protect the value of my home from having a main road three streets down the hill. My admittedly not entirely altruistic take on this project won't be shared by everyone. Some had campaigned long for a road, as our trusty source of truth the Bristol Post from some four years back shows.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Aasimuk at 15:37, 3rd June 2014
 
Looks like things are moving along fast at Temple Meads now. Spoke to a few guys from a demolition company doing the final visit before moving in to demolish the old post office bridge.
Anyone have ant news on the roof replacment?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by John R at 21:53, 4th June 2014
 
That will be a good start. Hopefully the adjacent eyesore won't be far behind, though that won't be Network Rail (NR)'s problem.

Edit: VickiS - clarifying acronym

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 14:03, 7th June 2014
 

^6 million windfall signals the end for Bristol's eyesore GPO building

BRISTOL'S worst eyesore is finally set to be knocked down, thanks to a ^6 million windfall from the Government to buy the site from an investment firm. The former Royal Mail sorting office has blighted the view of passengers arriving in Bristol at Temple Meads station since it closed down in 1997.

The Bristol Post understands a deal to buy it is "very close", thanks to funding announced yesterday by Communities Minister Stephen Williams.

Read more at http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/EXCLUSIVE-pound-6m-windfall-signals-end-Bristol-s/story-21156873-detail/story.html#T1h7szjOuyIB3oyo.99



Minister unlocks Bristol^s Arena site to major development

Work to unlock a development site which has been earmarked for Bristol^s ambitious Arena project is about to start in earnest.

Communities Minister and Bristol West MP Stephen Williams joined partners at the Diesel Depot site beside Temple Meads station today to mark the start of infrastructure work which will unlock the site for major development.

The ^11.5m project commissioned by the Homes and Communities Agency (HCA) will see a new two lane bridge installed over the River Avon to improve links with the station and the rest of the city. Work is also underway to enhance the bridge by creating a green corridor using trees and other climbing plants across its structure and along pedestrian routes.

More details: http://www.bristoltemplequarter.com/news/news/2014/05/29/minister-unlocks-bristol%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98arena-site%E2%80%99-to-major-development/


Can't find anything about the mail conveyor on the Bristol City Council Planning Application Database - I would presume that the usual 'courtesy' application would be required before it could be demolished, though I do note that it is not specifically mentioned in the station's Grade I listing..!

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Aasimuk at 21:00, 11th June 2014
 
The mail conveyor is definitely about to meet is demise!  Arriving on an inbound into platform three today, the shutters were wide open. All the lifts are still intact, and could see through to another subway, so is that three that run across the platforms?  infact, think there is four, as went in a derelict one on the Bristol Doors Open Day a year or two ago.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 12:43, 12th August 2014
 
The planning application for the removal of the mail conveyor at Temple Meads is now on the BCC website - go to http://planningonline.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/ and use search ref 14/03806/LA for full details. The status of this application at the time of posting was 'Pending Consideration'.

I recommend reading 'SUPPORTING STATEMENT - JULY 2014' - this contains the Design and Access statement and other background info.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by paul7575 at 13:44, 12th August 2014
 
Hmm...   I reckon that should take about ten seconds to decide.

From today's perspective, how did they ever get permission to add that to a listed building anyway?

Paul

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 21:06, 14th August 2014
 
Hmm...   I reckon that should take about ten seconds to decide.

Paul

Not in Bristol...

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 16:38, 3rd October 2014
 
The proposal to demolish the Temple Meads mail conveyor was granted Listed Building Consent on 23rd September 2014. Bring on Miley Cyrus, clad in suitable PPE of course.

Edit: English Heritage made this comment:

The canopies along the platforms appear to have been cut back to accommodate the Conveyor bridge. Given the overall benefits of the current proposals, we do not object the cladding of the severed ends of the canopies with traditional dagger-boards; however, in the longer term consideration might be given to reinstating the missing elements of the canopies.

Hear hear! Given the importance of these buildings, is it unreasonable to hope that the pitched roof to the clock tower might one day be reinstated too?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by JayMac at 17:23, 3rd October 2014
 
Excellent news!

Should make London end photography more aesthetically pleasing. Hoping there's a gap between conveyor removal and knitting going up.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 17:54, 3rd October 2014
 
Excellent news!

Should make London end photography more aesthetically pleasing. Hoping there's a gap between conveyor removal and knitting going up.

There should be, but it might not be a long gap.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 23:03, 4th October 2014
 
Spotted something interesting (well, I think it is!) in this document 'Growing Bristol^s Railway' (undated, unfortunately), by Chris Aldridge, Principal Strategic Planner at Network Rail Western: http://www.travelwest.info/sites/default/files/Network%20Rail%20process.pdf

I had assumed that the plan to reopen the 'Midland' shed for terminating London services involved just the part currently used as a car park (the 1870s Digby-Wyatt extension to Brunel's terminus); however p8 of this report appears to show that accommodating 10-car IEPs will require the use of Brunel's 'Passenger Shed' - that's the bit where they hold the Beer Festival - as well. Also interesting to see how the subway could connect the two parts of the station.

The artist's impression on p11 shows the Midland Shed extended to replace what was demolished for the PSB, though it appears to be a modern lightweight construction. Hopefully they won't get away with that! Old photos show that the two Digby-Wyatt roofs complemented each other; that's how they should restore it.

I'd dearly love to see more detail of these emerging plans..!


Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by stuving at 23:19, 4th October 2014
 
Spotted something interesting (well, I think it is!) in this document 'Growing Bristol^s Railway' (undated, unfortunately), by Chris Aldridge, Principal Strategic Planner at Network Rail Western: http://www.travelwest.info/sites/default/files/Network%20Rail%20process.pdf

Internally, the PDF is dated 23/10/2013 - though the presentation could be a bit earlier.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by John R at 20:08, 16th October 2014
 
Speaking to one of the platform staff last weekend, he said the Mail Conveyor is due to be removed in a possession on 25th/26th December. Hooray!

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by JayMac at 21:36, 16th October 2014
 
There's evidence of work starting to bring down the the Royal Mail building. I saw heavy plant on the site yesterday.

Sensible, if somewhat expensive, to remove the conveyor on the only two days a year when there are no passenger services. I hope there will be no overrun. The 27th December is one of the busiest travelling days. I imagine that as much as possible of the conveyor structure will removed before Christmas Day.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by chuffed at 01:18, 17th October 2014
 
There should be plenty of room on Santa's sleigh  for the conveyor belt after delivering all those presents the night before. However, whether Santa or his yellow coated, white helmeted, booted elves that moonlight for Network Rail will be in a fit enough state to do the work, after all the festive cheer, ( hic !) is another matter entirely !!!

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 11:35, 23rd October 2014
 
I saw heavy plant on the site yesterday.

I thought I saw a triffid there last night.

But seriously, there was a lot of crashing and banging going on in the old Royal Mail building, and a JCB bashing something up in the area between the station wall and the sorting office. Presumably this is preparatory to the removal of the mail conveyor.

This poster gives a nice 'before and after' (sorry for the jaunty angle but it was that or have a big flash reflection in the middle of it!).

(Attachment now fixed)

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by paul7575 at 11:39, 23rd October 2014
 
This poster gives a nice 'before and after' (sorry for the jaunty angle but it was that or have a big flash reflection in the middle of it!).

Er...  you seem to have shrunk that attachment a step too far

Paul

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by JayMac at 13:38, 23rd October 2014
 
It's certainly going to make photos taken at the London end more pleasing to the eye. There's a short window between the mail conveyor coming down and the knitting going up to allow for some pleasing images of lined up High Speed Trains (HST)s.


Edit: VickiS - Clarifying abbreviation

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 13:50, 23rd October 2014
 
I must remember the camera whenever I go to Temple Meads. A record of the changes as they happen is a must.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by John R at 19:14, 3rd November 2014
 
The first sheet cladding has started to be removed from the mail conveyor, so work is most definitely underway.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 18:26, 7th November 2014
 
...and here's a photo to prove it, with cladding removed from the Platform 1/3 lift tower. Out of shot, scaffolding has appeared on the roof of the conveyor - no photo of this; I had a train to catch!

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by JayMac at 01:43, 8th November 2014
 
I'll have a nose around that end of the station next week, see what's what. With camera to hand of course.

As an aside, you'd never know that floor was wet without that trip hazard cone there would you? 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 14:03, 16th November 2014
 

As an aside, you'd never know that floor was wet without that trip hazard cone there would you? 

I have tripped on one at work. Our cleaner leaves it out after she has finished rearranging the dirt, which means the floor is dry before anyone else gets to walk on it.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by johnneyw at 23:41, 22nd November 2014
 
Had a look at the demolition progress today. Boxes built over the parts being removed over the track to catch debris. This seem to be moveable over the girder frame as work moves along. At this rate all that will be left to move is the girder fame in a week or two. You can smell the oxyacetalene torches during the weekdays as more is cut out. It's going to look much better once it's gone, it's not a listed building for nothing. Posters on TM show the brick footings are due to go too.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:54, 22nd November 2014
 
Thanks for your update on the situation at Bristol Temple Meads, johnneyw - and a warm welcome to the Coffee Shop forum! 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ajg at 13:49, 24th November 2014
 
The current plan is to remove the first two spans at Christmas. Span 1 being between platform 1-6 and span 2 between 7-9, although there is a possibility that the span 1 could be removed prior.

The remaining spans will be removed post Christmas.


Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by JayMac at 14:17, 24th November 2014
 
18th November 2014:







Not noticed much difference over the weekend having been through Bristol TM on a couple of occasions. I'll probably grab some more pics later this week.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:25, 24th November 2014
 
Thanks for providing us with some more useful information, ajg - and another warm welcome to the Coffee Shop forum. 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by johnneyw at 22:51, 25th November 2014
 
Things are certainly moving with the demolition of the conveyor bridge. However, it's really proving a challenge to find out any concrete online information about what will be happening with the future redevelopment of Temple Meads and when. It's a station full of future possibilities and the speculative plans I have seen so far look impressive.... but where do I find out where things have got to now?

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 12:26, 26th November 2014
 
Welcome to the forum, johnneyw.

I share your frustration - I regularly trawl the web for any hints as to how the plans for Temple Meads are evolving.

One area where things are coming along nicely is the Mail Conveyor - I took some pics today, which are attached below.

The first shows the span between P1/3 and P5/7, with all cladding now removed;
The second shows the temporary scaffolding gantry, currently at P5/7. This appears to have nylon wheels which run along the top rail of the conveyor structure;
The third shows the P9/11 structure, with stripping gantry looming;
The fourth shows the current rather crude plywood fascia on the end of the original canopy, cut short when the conveyor was built. The plan is to replace this with daggerboards to match those on the sides of the canopy.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by ReWind at 16:30, 26th November 2014
 
There is overnight possessions on lines affected by the removal of the conveyor at any one time.  This is having an adverse impact on the departure and arrival of stock from SPM forming the first various services from BTM in the morning.

Possession overran last night for example, we were nearly an hour late finishing at the station due to this.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by JayMac at 20:33, 26th November 2014
 
Crikey Mr Squirrel, those photos are almost identical to the ones I took this morning. 

Saved me a job hosting/uploading mine. Ta. 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TheLastMinute at 18:00, 27th November 2014
 
Sorry it's a bit short notice, but the demolition will be featured on TV shortly if you're in the Bristol area (or know how to manually turn a Sky or Freesat box)....

: https://twitter.com/networkrailBRI
Bristol Temple Meads ‏@networkrailBRI  34 minutes ago
Tune into @madeinbristoltv at 1800 and 2100 tonight to find out about the Conveyor Bridge Demolition. Freeview 8, Virgin 159, Sky 117

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 18:12, 27th November 2014
 
Thanks for the heads up - I have set my BT box to record the 2100 report. I have a DVD recorder, and if it's a good piece, I might be able to do a rather tortuous link up, followed by a rip to Youtube or similar, and post here.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 18:23, 27th November 2014
 
I was at Temple Meads this evening I caught the 17:13 to Avonmouth just as we were pulling out a steam engine came in on the middle road I did not see what it was it might have been a battle of Britain class southen loco
Can anyone shed some light on this for me ?.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by stuving at 18:28, 27th November 2014
 
I was at Temple Meads this evening I caught the 17:13 to Avonmouth just as we were pulling out a steam engine came in on the middle road I did not see what it was it might have been a battle of Britain class southen loco
Can anyone shed some light on this for me ?.
Railway Touring Club
  THE BATH AND BRISTOL CHRISTMAS MARKET 
Thursday 27 November 2014
LMS Class 5MT 4-6-0 no 45407
SR Light Pacific 4-6-2 no 34067 Tangmere

Timings here.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 18:34, 27th November 2014
 
I was at Temple Meads this evening I caught the 17:13 to Avonmouth just as we were pulling out a steam engine came in on the middle road I did not see what it was it might have been a battle of Britain class southen loco
Can anyone shed some light on this for me ?.
Railway Touring Club
  THE BATH AND BRISTOL CHRISTMAS MARKET 
Thursday 27 November 2014
LMS Class 5MT 4-6-0 no 45407
SR Light Pacific 4-6-2 no 34067 Tangmere

Timings here.

Good grief  that was quick Thanks for your reply stuving cheers.




Edit note: Quote marks fixed, for clarity. CfN. 

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 19:01, 27th November 2014
 
Saw it parked up behind St Phil's High Speed Train (HST) depot last night.

Edit: VickiS - Clarifying acronym

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by Red Squirrel at 20:39, 27th November 2014
 
I saw the Black 5 trundling over the girder bridge by the Dogs' Home.  Surprising how this kind of thing barely causes a raised eyebrow these days; twenty years ago it would have been on the front page of the Evening Post.

Why on earth did they paint it such a vile colour, by the way? The bridge that is, not the Black 5; black is a perfectly respectable colour for an engine, especially a Black 5, though I do feel it should have yellow (or, better, hi-viz orange) ends.

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TonyK at 21:24, 27th November 2014
 
I saw the Black 5 trundling over the girder bridge by the Dogs' Home.  Surprising how this kind of thing barely causes a raised eyebrow these days; twenty years ago it would have been on the front page of the Evening Post.

Why on earth did they paint it such a vile colour, by the way? The bridge that is, not the Black 5; black is a perfectly respectable colour for an engine, especially a Black 5, though I do feel it should have yellow (or, better, hi-viz orange) ends.

Last time I passed, it was still under wraps. I shall revisit (it's a 10 minute bike ride).

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TheLastMinute at 22:27, 27th November 2014
 
Thanks for the heads up - I have set my BT box to record the 2100 report. I have a DVD recorder, and if it's a good piece, I might be able to do a rather tortuous link up, followed by a rip to Youtube or similar, and post here.

Was the report about the conveyor bridge in "The 9"? I set my Sky box to record "The 6" programme, and for some technical reason, the second part of the program went Absent Without Leave (AWOL) and wasn't shown so no idea if it featured.

Edit: VickiS - Clarifying abbreviation

Re: Bristol Temple Meads Station redevelopment
Posted by TheLastMinute at 22:55, 27th November 2014
 
Was the report about the conveyor bridge in "The 9"? I set my Sky box to record "The 6" programme, and for some technical reason, the second part of the program went AWOL and wasn't shown so no idea if it featured.

To answer my own question, I've heard that the report has been pushed to tomorrow's (Friday's) program as it's been a busy news day in Bristol.

 
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