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Re: Dangers of the underground
In "Transport for London" [359345/30013/46]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 19:59, 12th March 2025
 
I see the article quotes the somewhat clumsy description of "Non-subsurface stations" so on that basis a book exchange would still be allowed at Rayners Lane for example.  Books are actually pretty hard to set light to, particularly when packed close together, so low risk at an above-ground station.  Try it some time with an unloved book! They would eventually burn if the station building went up in flames but would be a trivial part of the overall blaze rather than the cause.  One reason piles of Metro newspapers (clearly visible in one of the photos) are allowed. 

The book exchanges are not on the train where there might be rather more concern, so the (almost certainly dodgy) e-bike is very different in that respect, though modified/non-compliant ones ought to be dealt with on a wider level than just by LU as they're a safety hazard wherever they are.

Re: Connectivity - north to south Wales
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [359344/29974/23]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:18, 12th March 2025
 
When my daughter was at University in Bangor (North Wales, not the other one!), she made several rail journeys from there to Nailsea & Backwell (via Newport, South Wales) and back.

She is not particularly a fan of the railways, but she apparently found those journeys quite acceptable - offering good views of the Welsh countryside.

CfN.

Re: HS2 - Government proposals, alternative routes and general discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [359343/5138/51]
Posted by TonyK at 19:00, 12th March 2025
 
Well - hopefully both the PAC and vast number of UK-knockers might take some comfort from this take from DW (Germany's answer to BBC) -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlDChSmyf-0

Seems like it's a universal problem!

Even that's a little simplistic. Yes, the USA laid 2000 miles of track in the 1860s, but they don't have quite the same supply of cheap labour as back then from Ireland and China. Nor do we have the human power available to Brunel back in the olden days. As to "doomed" - depends on which bit of HS2 you mean.


Pakistan army says 300 hostages freed from train - 11 March 2025
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [359342/30015/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:40, 12th March 2025
 
From the BBC:



Pakistan's army says it has freed more than 300 hostages from a passenger train seized by militants in Balochistan province on Tuesday.

The military spokesperson said 33 militants were killed during the operation.

Twenty-one civilian hostages and four military personnel were killed by the Baloch Liberation Army (BLA) before the operation began, the military spokesperson said. These numbers have not been verified by the BBC.

The military continues its search operation in the area to rule out any remaining threats.



There were approximately 440 passengers on board the train when it was attacked, according to the army's spokesperson.

Security officials have been quoted as saying some of the militants may have left the train, taking an unknown number of passengers with them into the surrounding mountainous area.  The military is working to find the passengers who escaped and fled into the surrounding area during the attack, the spokesperson said. It is not clear how many passengers are unaccounted for.

The Pakistani authorities - as well as several Western countries, including the UK and US - have designated the BLA as a terrorist organisation.

The BLA is one of the rebel groups demanding either greater autonomy or independence for Balochistan, Pakistan's largest province.  They accuse Islamabad of exploiting the province's rich mineral resources while also neglecting it. In the past, they have attacked military camps, railway stations and trains - but this is the first time they have hijacked a train.

At least 100 of those on the train were members of the security forces, officials have said.

The militants had threatened to kill hostages if authorities did not release Baloch political prisoners within 48 hours, according to local reports.  During the attack, the militants blew up a section of the tracks and opened fire on the train near a mountain tunnel.

Eyewitnesses described the "doomsday scenes" on board the train as the attack unfolded, with passenger Ishaq Noor telling the BBC: "We held our breath throughout the firing, not knowing what would happen next."

Officials had difficulty communicating with passengers at the time of the attack, because the remote area has no internet or mobile coverage.

Some passengers who managed to disembark from the train late on Tuesday evening walked for nearly four hours to reach the next railway station.  Among them was Muhammad Ashraf, who had been travelling from Quetta to Lahore to visit his family.  "We reached the station with great difficulty, because we were tired and there were children and women with us," he told the BBC.

Helicopters and hundreds of troops were deployed to rescue the hostages. More than 100 passengers had been freed by Wednesday morning.

The hijacking lasted more than 30 hours. Information relating to the attack and subsequent rescue operation has been tightly controlled throughout.  A spokesperson for the military said anyone involved in the attack would be brought to justice.



Re: Night Riviera - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "London to the West" [359341/489/12]
Posted by a-driver at 17:08, 12th March 2025
Already liked by PhilWakely, Mark A, GBM, Timmer
 
Having lots of locos standing idle at depots is obviously an expensive and bad thing But one or two Thunderbird locos strategically located would be very useful.

I suppose with most passenger trains now being powered by more than a single power unit, the general thought is that even the failure of a couple of its engines would not mean a train cannot limp on

For failures in Cornwall, is there a way to seek assistant locos from the remaining loco pool for the clay traffic?

You’d think they’d be a case for funding from the DfT of additional 57s based at Laira purely for rescuing IETs at Dawlish

Re: Small rise in crime at Melksham Station
In "TransWilts line" [359340/30014/18]
Posted by eXPassenger at 17:01, 12th March 2025
Already liked by IndustryInsider, Chris from Nailsea, GBM, Ralph Ayres
 
or headline it:
'Quadrupling of crimes at Melksham station.
depending on the slant you want to use.

Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [359339/13495/5]
Posted by grahame at 15:59, 12th March 2025
Already liked by Timmer
 
Seven years ago!

For the record - here is the liveried power car in its proper environment...




and a picture from the publicity video at the time. Came up "on this day"



[snip]

And now from The Mirror

Some airlines are offering combined air-rail tickets which that allow passengers to explore Europe on one booking.

An increasing number of airlines are now letting travellers add a train ticket to their booking, to save them the hassle of trying to work out travel plans. Air-rail tickets allow travellers to arrive at an airport and head straight to a train for their connection. In addition, when booked all together, airlines protect the passenger in case a flight delay means they miss their train.


Re: Dangers of the underground
In "Transport for London" [359338/30013/46]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:48, 12th March 2025
 
Hmm.

The King's Cross fire in 1987 showed why you really don't want flammable materials on the London Underground.


Re: Night Riviera - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "London to the West" [359337/489/12]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 15:47, 12th March 2025
 
Having lots of locos standing idle at depots is obviously an expensive and bad thing But one or two Thunderbird locos strategically located would be very useful.

I suppose with most passenger trains now being powered by more than a single power unit, the general thought is that even the failure of a couple of its engines would not mean a train cannot limp on

For failures in Cornwall, is there a way to seek assistant locos from the remaining loco pool for the clay traffic?

Re: A move to longer trains?
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [359336/30009/40]
Posted by grahame at 15:26, 12th March 2025
Already liked by PhilWakely, eightonedee
 
I would argue that there is a much greater need for longer trains on lines like the Kyle line. My reasoning is that on what are essentially 'tourist lines' the demand to have a window seat will be much greater than on a commuter line. It can be frustrating to travel up to somewhere scenic, and find you can't get near a window to get the best view possible.

Many services run long trains to stations with platforms that are not long enough for all doors to open, so I don't see why longer platforms per se are necessary before longer trains are introduced.

Yes, BUT ...

My first argument would be for seats that line up with windows!

And I am very conscious that fares per mile tend to be lower, and fewer trains operating, pushing the economics of these lines into needing far more support per passenger or mile than many other lines.   I also thing of the people travelling and they tend to be paired up, so window seat and one looking over that seat past their partner, may not be all that bad.

I do celebrate that the trains that bring commuter into Inverness in the morning are they used for the day trip trains out, then get back into Inverness to take the commuters home.

Longer trains - yes, with through corridors trains (e.g. 158) single-door stations like Conon Bridge and Beauly work.  Only up to a certain number of passengers using each train though.  Might be fine for a re-opened Holt or Beanacre, but not for a Devizes Gateway

Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [359335/13913/5]
Posted by Sleepy at 15:16, 12th March 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
  Now announced First  bus have abandoned the whole route  and a limited service operated by Go Cornwall (service 7) will run on St Ives - Lands End section.

Re: Dangers of the underground
In "Transport for London" [359334/30013/46]
Posted by grahame at 15:05, 12th March 2025
 
From The Standard

Tube union threatens strike unless e-bikes are banned from London Underground after platform blaze

The fire at Rayners Lane station sent toxic fumes billowing across the station and caused temporary disruption to the Piccadilly and Metropolitan lines

Small rise in crime at Melksham Station
In "TransWilts line" [359333/30014/18]
Posted by grahame at 14:48, 12th March 2025
 
https://melkshamnews.com/small-rise-in-crime-at-melksham-station/

Small rise in crime at Melksham Station

New data has revealed the number of crimes reported at train stations across the UK, showing a small increase in the already low figures reported at Melksham Station.

Melksham Station, which has services to Westbury and Swindon, has seen a slight rise in its already low crime figures. There were four crime reports to the British Transport Police (BTP) between 2024-2025 compared to one crime reported in the 2023-2024 period. This means the rate of all crime incidents per 100,000 passengers has increased from 3.3 to 13.18, although authorities say it is important to view this rise in a wider context.

The BTP emphasised that “every offence is one too many” in relation to the new statistics.

A BTP spokesperson said, “The chance of becoming a victim of crime on the railway remains extremely low, and reports of high harm crime such as robbery and violence remain low at 2.2 incidents per million passenger journeys. It is important to not sensationalise these statistics and view them within their context. For example, at Westbury station, which has around 270,000 passengers per year, there were 23 reported incidents last year.”

Crimes reported at Melksham Station, where the BTP say there are 30,000 passengers a year, in the 2024-2025 period included one bicycle theft and three criminal damage and arson incidents.


Dangers of the underground
In "Transport for London" [359332/30013/46]
Posted by grahame at 14:43, 12th March 2025
 
From The Metro:

Commuters say their last shreds of ‘joy’ were taken away after London Underground station book exchanges suddenly closed.

Tube stations across London were dotted with community bookswaps, where people can drop off and pick up something to read for free.

However, the Tube station bookswaps now face the end of the road after London Fire Brigade told them to close due to safety concerns the ‘combustible material’ poses.

Book lover Ryan Seller, from Clapham, was left confused when he found the shelves stripped empty with a note saying all book exchanges have been ‘forced to close’ with ‘immediate effect.’

Re: Night Riviera - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "London to the West" [359331/489/12]
Posted by grahame at 14:28, 12th March 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
The rescue was carried out by a 4 coach Castle set! Wonder what they will use once the Castle class is retired?


They could use the class 57 off the sleeper as their Thunderbird.

Oh - oops .... 

Re: Night Riviera - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "London to the West" [359330/489/12]
Posted by RobT at 13:14, 12th March 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
The rescue was carried out by a 4 coach Castle set! Wonder what they will use once the Castle class is retired?

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [359328/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 12:39, 12th March 2025
 
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:05
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19

17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Re: Night Riviera - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "London to the West" [359327/489/12]
Posted by GBM at 12:37, 12th March 2025
 
Watching on OTT the rescue loco was 1Z99 which took the sleeper back to Plymouth, then on to Laira.
I'm wondering what the rescue loco would have been? In the past they have used 2 back-to-back HST power cars.
Unfortunately there was no mention of what 1Z99 actually was.
It delayed 1A78 (Penzance - Paddington) leaving Plymouth whilst waiting for 1Z99 to pull into Laira.
Only by 8 or 9 minutes, but looking at RTT it was delayed further between Cogload Junction and Athelney Crossing, so now 27 minutes down.

Re: A move to longer trains?
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [359326/30009/40]
Posted by froome at 11:21, 12th March 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, GBM, PrestburyRoad, PhilWakely
 
I would argue that there is a much greater need for longer trains on lines like the Kyle line. My reasoning is that on what are essentially 'tourist lines' the demand to have a window seat will be much greater than on a commuter line. It can be frustrating to travel up to somewhere scenic, and find you can't get near a window to get the best view possible.

Many services run long trains to stations with platforms that are not long enough for all doors to open, so I don't see why longer platforms per se are necessary before longer trains are introduced.

Re: Night Riviera - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "London to the West" [359325/489/12]
Posted by RobT at 10:42, 12th March 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
Watching on OTT the rescue loco was 1Z99 which took the sleeper back to Plymouth, then on to Laira.
I'm wondering what the rescue loco would have been? In the past they have used 2 back-to-back HST power cars.

Re: Night Riviera - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "London to the West" [359324/489/12]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:44, 12th March 2025
 
Last night's down sleeper has failed at Menheniot and is awaiting rescue.

According to RTT at 0939 today, it's not moved yet.  Unless either RTT or I are missing something, there appears to be no rescue locomotive approaching from either direction

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [359323/29711/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:32, 12th March 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
So.....aren't the early trains that start at HFD driven by drivers from BPW? If not, how do they get from Hitachi to their starting point? At least one starts at Hitachi....

And 'who' is doing the forcing? GWR? DfT?

BPW lost Newport Hereford Malvern Wells in May 2022, all ECS moves from Stoke Gifford going via Charfield.

No idea whether it is DaFT or GWR behind it, or possibly both?

Other losses of route knowledge including BTM HSS saying goodbye to Lydney and Kemble. It has been predicted, the tunnel will shut after a London service has left Newport and when the BTM driver is asked to go the scenic way it will be a "Sorry but no. I could have last week but railway politics trumps common sense".

What a way to run a railroad!


Re: "Mysterious" tunnels at Salisbury Station
In "South Western services" [359322/30006/42]
Posted by broadgage at 08:29, 12th March 2025
 
Gosh...............any steam locos down there - the famous Strategic Steam Reserve !

The strategic steam reserve has been largely abolished, limitations on water supply, coal stocks, and train crew knowledge mean that steam is no longer a sensible choice for a significant reserve fleet.
The strategic reserve now contains a mixture of HSTs, Thames Turbos, class 158/159s and similar diesel traction. Trains from the reserve fleet are run regularly in normal service, this is achieved by having TWO trains, each bearing the same number, one in use and the other stored. Swapped over regularly.

Re: A move to longer trains?
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [359321/30009/40]
Posted by rogerpatenall at 08:25, 12th March 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, Mark A, eightonedee
 
My only trip to Kyle was in the early 1980s, I think, and was. both ways, in the Beaver Tail observation car, added to four Mark 1s.

Re: Night Riviera - merged posts, ongoing discussion
In "London to the West" [359320/489/12]
Posted by bobm at 06:58, 12th March 2025
 
Last night's down sleeper has failed at Menheniot and is awaiting rescue.

Re: 25th May 2025 - SWR Franchise expires and services Nationalised
In "South Western services" [359319/29993/42]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:55, 11th March 2025
 
My understanding is that all the TOCs have been identified for this year, at a pace that transfers can be successful.

SWR, GA and C2C (I think) are the 3 for this year.

Next year's are still to be identified & dates given. So unless GWR have been given far more notice than the 3 periods that they have to be given (and that is entirely possible), they haven't yet received notice. But if they have been given many periods additional notice, it doesn't have to become public until those 3 periods of notice are due.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [359318/29711/14]
Posted by UstiImmigrunt at 20:38, 11th March 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
So.....aren't the early trains that start at HFD driven by drivers from BPW? If not, how do they get from Hitachi to their starting point? At least one starts at Hitachi....

And 'who' is doing the forcing? GWR? DfT?

BPW lost Newport Hereford Malvern Wells in May 2022, all ECS moves from Stoke Gifford going via Charfield.

No idea whether it is DaFT or GWR behind it, or possibly both?

Other losses of route knowledge including BTM HSS saying goodbye to Lydney and Kemble. It has been predicted, the tunnel will shut after a London service has left Newport and when the BTM driver is asked to go the scenic way it will be a "Sorry but no. I could have last week but railway politics trumps common sense".

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [359317/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:36, 11th March 2025
 
......and again.....

Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Following a points failure at Twyford the line will be reopened shortly. Disruption is expected until 21:30 11/03.

Train services between London Paddington and Reading may be delayed by up to 40 minutes or terminated at Reading.

Customer Advice
Problems caused by a points failure near Twyford have now been resolved, and trains can run normally again. However this has caused significant delays and will take a while for the train service to recover.

Met PC sacked for avoiding train fares
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [359316/30011/51]
Posted by Marlburian at 17:47, 11th March 2025
 
BBC News

A police officer only paid the £34 fare between Axminster in Devon and Salisbury in Wiltshire "around half of the time" as ticket barriers were open and staff allowed him to travel for free on production of a warrant card.

 
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