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Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364450/30593/26]
Posted by grahame at 20:44, 20th August 2025
 
GWRs own piece -

https://news.gwr.com/news/great-western-railway-battery-train-sets-new-world-distance-record-of-200-miles-to-celebrate-railway-200-in-style

Just noticed 14 blokes in the publicity picture and no bloke-esses.   Probably not PC to comment.

Re: Bristol Airport - proposals for expansion and bus services - merged posts
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364449/22894/5]
Posted by TonyK at 20:41, 20th August 2025
 
I met Lord Ivar a few times, and he remains the only peer of the realm (that I know of) to have cleared and wiped down a table for my wife and myself to use for coffee and cake. He did an excellent job. He is married to a former airline cabin services director, so I'm surprised a word couldn't have been had.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364448/30593/26]
Posted by Mark A at 20:39, 20th August 2025
 
While undoubtedly it was an achievement, we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact it was achieved with slow speed running and no on-board heating.  A lower range to allow improved speed and conditions would still allow branch line services but we need to be mindful of the practical limitations.

:-) Brought to mind a winter late afternoon return journey from St Erth to Bristol shortly after the IETs had taken over. Train like a fridge and yelled at by frazzled staff for attempting to walk through the kitchen to reach our reserved seats - 2x5 set and that carriage had come to a halt well off the country end of the platform there. First impressions weren't good shall we say though at that time catering *was* still happening west of Plymouth.

Mark

Re: Love the extra data ...
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [364445/30600/20]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:04, 20th August 2025
 
Steak ... BBQ ... Bank Holiday weekend ... ?

Cue TaplowGreen. 

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364444/30593/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:53, 20th August 2025
 
I have now updated the headings in this particular topic, to celebrate the event.

CfN. 

Re: Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents and events - merged posts
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [364443/593/9]
Posted by ray951 at 19:50, 20th August 2025
 
It needs to  - Hendy promised that it would be, without fail, open by the end of this month....

I went and had a look at the work on the new walkway this week and I will be really surprised if it is ready by the end of the month.

Hopefully I will be proved wrong but they still haven't put in place all the pre-cast concrete sections that make up the walkway and then they would need to clear up the site and move all the barriers, signs etc. before it could be used.

Re: Bristol Airport - proposals for expansion and bus services - merged posts
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364442/22894/5]
Posted by Clan Line at 19:44, 20th August 2025
 
 
Mmm ! One side of the story................ 

Sounds like the aircraft involved stowed all the "hold" luggage in racks in the passenger cabin. In which case I would certainly support the decision made by "the sweet check-in lady"..........of course the words "don't you know who I am" would never have been used, would they ? 

I once flew (mid '80s) from Edinburgh to London with the the First Lieutenant of the ship I was serving on. He was attending a Naval wedding that weekend and needed his sword for that day. Amazingly, he got as far as the aircraft door with the sword. After a very amicable discussion with the cabin crew, they took it from him and stowed it with the crew's hats and coats and returned it to him at Heathrow.   I don't think he could pull that one off nowadays !

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364441/30593/26]
Posted by bradshaw at 19:33, 20th August 2025
 
GWR news release here
https://news.gwr.com/news/great-western-railway-battery-train-sets-new-world-distance-record-of-200-miles-to-celebrate-railway-200-in-style

The notes to editors gives more detail
Conditions

Estimated range

SuperMode – Highest efficiency.   200 miles

All efficiency measures but running at full speed (60 mph).    100-120 miles

Typical branch line operating conditions based on Greenford trial.    50-80 miles


Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364440/30593/26]
Posted by bobm at 19:22, 20th August 2025
 
While undoubtedly it was an achievement, we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact it was achieved with slow speed running and no on-board heating.  A lower range to allow improved speed and conditions would still allow branch line services but we need to be mindful of the practical limitations.

Re: Bristol Airport - proposals for expansion and bus services - merged posts
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [364439/22894/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:50, 20th August 2025
 
Going off at a slightly historical tangent here - from the BBC today:

Late Queen 'refused to open airport over gun row'


The late Queen was allegedly annoyed her cousin could not fly with his shotguns

A relative of the late Queen claims she once refused to open an airport terminal after he was prevented from boarding a flight with his guns on his way to visit her at Balmoral.

Lord Ivar Mountbatten, 62, a first cousin once removed of Prince Philip, the late Duke of Edinburgh, revealed he was prevented from taking his shotguns on a flight from Bristol Airport to Aberdeen.

He told broadcaster Gyles Brandreth's Rosebud podcast Queen Elizabeth was so irritated she told him: "They want me to open their new terminal. I don't think I will now."

A spokeswoman for Bristol Airport said it was always the case that Princess Anne would open the site, and not the late Queen.

Lord Mountbatten described how a "sweet check-in lady" told him the hold was accessible from the cabin so the guns would not be secure. He claimed Bristol Airport staff refused to budge despite him telling a manager: "The Queen's sending me a car and she's expecting me for tea."


Princess Anne opening the terminal extension in 2015, having previously opened the building in 2000

In the end, his guns were left in the police armory at the airport and Lord Mountbatten took the flight to Scotland to join the Queen for the shooting weekend in the Highlands.

Later that day at Balmoral, when he recounted the tale to the Queen, it led to her "getting rather irritated" and dispatching an officer to arrange transportation of the guns, Lord Mountbatten said.

The aristocrat, who is also Elizabeth II's distant cousin, told Brandreth: "She said…'I would like Lord Ivar's guns to be up here tomorrow morning. Please see to it'. Whereupon she turns back to me and she looks at me over her glasses with a glint in her eye and she says 'They want me to open their new terminal'. She says 'I don't think I will now'."

Lord Mountbatten added: "So every time I go back to Bristol Airport now, it was opened by the Princess Royal, I have a quiet laugh to myself."

The Princess Royal first opened a terminal building at Bristol Airport in 2000, and later opened a terminal extension in 2015.

Bristol Airport's spokeswoman said: "Bristol Airport followed royal protocol which was to request a member of the royal family to open the new terminal through the Lord Lieutenants office. The Princess Royal was always assigned for our area, never the late Queen."

Lord Mountbatten is a farmer and businessman, and in later life has become a reality TV star and this year appeared in the third season of the reality show The Traitors US.

His great-uncle was Earl Mountbatten - Prince Philip's uncle and mentor, who was assassinated by the IRA in 1979.


Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364438/30593/26]
Posted by broadgage at 18:27, 20th August 2025
 
Hopefully we will now see battery trains in daily use soon.
There is in my view a lot to be said for electrification of MOST of a route, but with gaps under low bridges, near station canopies and in places prone to extreme conditions such as Dawlish..
A 200 mile range on battery power would also permit of excursions or railtours to non electrified branches or heritage lines.
Also a "get you home" facility when the wires come down.
Electric power from OHLE between Paddington and Taunton, then battery power to Minehead for example. Charging at Minehead could be arranged, but hardly needed with a 200 mile battery range. A slow charge at say 22 kw would supply on board services without depleting the battery during the layover at Minehead.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [364437/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 17:35, 20th August 2025
 
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19

17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

No alternatives offered ... and I thought the 17:35 was an upper tier / protected service?  Welcome to what feels like the despairing land of empty promises.

Both reinstated just after 3.30pm.

Frustratingly stupid (IMHO) - why are so many services declared cancelled, people make other plans, bad publicity ... and then they get re-instated much later in the day.  Yes - it will happen occasionally but it happens far, far too often!   I sound like a well worn record on this - has anyone any ideas of what to do or suggest and to whom to actually get it fixed rather than just grumbling about it?

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [364436/29726/18]
Posted by bobm at 17:25, 20th August 2025
 
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19

17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

No alternatives offered ... and I thought the 17:35 was an upper tier / protected service?  Welcome to what feels like the despairing land of empty promises.

Both reinstated just after 3.30pm.

Re: Short formation
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [364435/30591/10]
Posted by froome at 17:24, 20th August 2025
 
Slightly off topic, but on Sunday I caught the 18.00 train from Paddington to Bath. It was two 5 coach trains linked together, which is fine, but the platform was only announced at Paddington 5 (or possibly less) minutes before the train was due to depart. The foyer at Paddington was teeming with people and luggage, especially around the large screens, and it was incredibly difficult to get near to the barriers. By the time I got to them they were left open to go through. However, it did mean that the vast majority of people got onto the rear 5 carriages and couldn't walk through to find a seat (of which there were many) in the front 5 carriages. The train did leave on time or at least very close to it.

Why do train times at Paddington get announced so late? I have been in similar situations several times over the years, and it is always very stressful trying to catch the train. In this instance, if you didn't know your way around the station well, I would be surprised if you could have caught the train.

Re: World Cup of Stations, 2025
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [364434/30596/49]
Posted by JayMac at 17:03, 20th August 2025
 
I did.

It was a very slow loading of the confirmation page without the usual progress bar. Got there in the end.

Re: Short formation
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [364433/30591/10]
Posted by matth1j at 17:00, 20th August 2025
 
...for the 1700 from BTM to Paddington, due to more trains than usual needing repairs according to the TM. 2 of the 5 coaches are first class.
And again! (reason not given yet)

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [364432/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 16:22, 20th August 2025
 
15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59

15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59 has been delayed at Swindon and is now 15 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364431/30593/26]
Posted by bobm at 16:13, 20th August 2025
Already liked by Oxonhutch
 
I’m an OLE man myself

Now there's a phrase you don't hear everyday!

Re: Love the extra data ...
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [364430/30600/20]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 15:56, 20th August 2025
 
I am reminded of Stephenson’s comments prior to the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway, “I very much fear for the cooow.”

Re: Love the extra data ...
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [364429/30600/20]
Posted by bobm at 15:02, 20th August 2025
 
Looks like it may not have ended well

What We're Doing About It:
We have been informed of a train hitting an obstruction on the line between Salisbury and Warminster. This means that all lines are blocked between these stations.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364428/30593/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:46, 20th August 2025
 
GWRs own piece -

https://news.gwr.com/news/great-western-railway-battery-train-sets-new-world-distance-record-of-200-miles-to-celebrate-railway-200-in-style

Re: Love the extra data ...
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [364427/30600/20]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:43, 20th August 2025
Already liked by grahame, PrestburyRoad, Worcester_Passenger
 
An escaped cow is wandering along the railway line near Warminster. Specialist teams are on site

The local farmer.....

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [364426/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 14:33, 20th August 2025
 

14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:00

14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:00 is being delayed at Westbury and is now expected to be 15 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed.

We seem to have a broken system. In following up in an enthusiast's group of Facebook congratulating GWR on their battery exploits last night ... I have got myself into those famous waters of "off topic ..."  I wrote ...

Congratulations ... but please look after the day to day passengers and take a pride in that too. Our first two trains cancelled this morning due to lack of crew. First southbound at Melksham - not 06:36 but 09:10. And that's not a rarity.

knuckles rapped

This isn't GWR Ltd page

oops

Indeed, and that message to "look after your customers - PLEASE" - need to be conveyed by other more direct routes too. However, (and I am delighted) a number of the GWR managers are also enthusiasts / enthusiastic too and it serves well to remind them of their customer in the few places that are no longer directly or indirectly financed and controlled by the Department for Transport / Treasury.

Leaving it at that ... I really appreciate that so many people have to look forward and there are some fantastically committed people at GWR but just occasionally when they achieve something new, it's worth a reminder that the daily issues of reliablilty need to be sorted out ...

Re: Tilehurst station - facilities, incidents and improvements
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [364425/1198/9]
Posted by Marlburian at 14:26, 20th August 2025
 
The lifts have still to be put into use.

Love the extra data ...
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [364424/30600/20]
Posted by grahame at 12:55, 20th August 2025
Already liked by Worcester_Passenger
 
Delays to services between Westbury and Salisbury

Following animals on the railway between Westbury and Salisbury all lines have now reopened.

Train services running through these stations will be delayed. Disruption is expected until 13:15 20/08.

Customer Advice

An escaped cow is wandering along the railway line near Warminster. Specialist teams are on site assisitng with returning the cow to the field, but in the mean time trains are suspended between Westbury and Salisbury.

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364423/30593/26]
Posted by matth1j at 12:43, 20th August 2025
Already liked by JayMac
 
Railway Gazette piece:
https://www.railwaygazette.com/uk/battery-train-sets-320-km-distance-record-as-gwr-explores-alternatives-to-diesel-traction/69425.article

Re: Great Western Railway battery-powered train achieves distance record - August 2025
In "Across the West" [364422/30593/26]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 12:09, 20th August 2025
 
23.7% of charge to spare!

Congratulations to all involved.

Excellent news.


Whoops! All cancelled due to staff shortage - isn't this the route that's operated by the milk float when it isn't out breaking records? Coincidence?

10:30 West Ealing to Greenford due 10:42
10:55 Greenford to West Ealing due 11:06
11:10 West Ealing to Greenford due 11:22
11:25 Greenford to West Ealing due 11:36
11:40 West Ealing to Greenford due 11:52
11:55 Greenford to West Ealing due 12:06
12:10 West Ealing to Greenford due 12:22
12:30 Greenford to West Ealing due 12:41

Did you get up that early to see it pass through Taplow?  https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:V34981/2025-08-20/detailed#allox_id=0

A coincidence, yes.  All 8 ended up being reinstated anyway.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [364421/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 11:21, 20th August 2025
Already liked by matth1j
 
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19

17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

No alternatives offered ... and I thought the 17:35 was an upper tier / protected service?  Welcome to what feels like the despairing land of empty promises.

 
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