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Re: The variety that is rail travel. In "The Lighter Side" [363358/30464/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:10, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Only 2 of these pictures were taken in the same town.
... and even with that clue, I managed to miss the second one.

Returning to the UK, 10. is Ebbw Vale Town, Wales.
CfN.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts In "Across the West" [363357/29177/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:58, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thankyou.....you're a little ray of sunshine!

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts In "Across the West" [363356/29177/26] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:39, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
An update, from the BBC:
More yellow rain and thunderstorm alerts bring threat of flash floods
An amber weather warning did not produce the intense rain and flash flooding that was feared, but more unsettled weather is on the way for much of the UK.
All four nations of the UK are blanketed by yellow rain and thunderstorm warnings for the rest of Saturday, with the Met Office saying this could bring flash flooding, power cuts and disruption to travel.
Further yellow alerts for heavy rain and some thunderstorms cover Scotland and south west England on Sunday - with a new yellow thunderstorm alert extended across much of England on Monday.
But flash flooding forecast for London and south-east England on Saturday morning "thankfully didn't occur", BBC Weather's Simon King said.
The wet weekend comes after a third heatwave of the year that parched swathes of the UK and led to several hosepipe bans being declared.
The recent warm spell has made flooding more likely and severe as the dry ground is unable to absorb as much water.
Earlier, the Met Office warned that London, Cambridge and the south coast could see a month's worth of rainfall - between 20 and 40mm (0.8in to 1.6in) in an hour, but in most areas this was not as bad as feared.
BBC Weather's Simon King said "the really intense downpours didn't occur", with Charlwood in Surrey seeing the most rain with 23mm in an hour on Saturday morning, and 14mm in an hour in Kenley, Croydon.
"The worst of the intense rain and frequent thunderstorms expected in south-east England this morning didn't quite develop as forecast," he said. "Therefore the anticipated flash flooding in the Met Office amber warning thankfully didn't occur.
"However, with yellow warnings still in force quite widely, there is still a chance of more localised and isolated impacts from thunderstorms."
This includes "large downpours bringing the risk of a bit of flash flooding and big puddles that could cause some travel disruption", he added.
The yellow thunderstorm warning in place for Saturday afternoon covers all of England except for the south west.
These additional warnings are in place:
Yellow alerts indicate a "slight chance" of power cuts, flooding for roads and businesses and some delays and cancellations to train and bus services, according to the Met Office.
An amber weather warning did not produce the intense rain and flash flooding that was feared, but more unsettled weather is on the way for much of the UK.
All four nations of the UK are blanketed by yellow rain and thunderstorm warnings for the rest of Saturday, with the Met Office saying this could bring flash flooding, power cuts and disruption to travel.
Further yellow alerts for heavy rain and some thunderstorms cover Scotland and south west England on Sunday - with a new yellow thunderstorm alert extended across much of England on Monday.
But flash flooding forecast for London and south-east England on Saturday morning "thankfully didn't occur", BBC Weather's Simon King said.
The wet weekend comes after a third heatwave of the year that parched swathes of the UK and led to several hosepipe bans being declared.
The recent warm spell has made flooding more likely and severe as the dry ground is unable to absorb as much water.
Earlier, the Met Office warned that London, Cambridge and the south coast could see a month's worth of rainfall - between 20 and 40mm (0.8in to 1.6in) in an hour, but in most areas this was not as bad as feared.
BBC Weather's Simon King said "the really intense downpours didn't occur", with Charlwood in Surrey seeing the most rain with 23mm in an hour on Saturday morning, and 14mm in an hour in Kenley, Croydon.
"The worst of the intense rain and frequent thunderstorms expected in south-east England this morning didn't quite develop as forecast," he said. "Therefore the anticipated flash flooding in the Met Office amber warning thankfully didn't occur.
"However, with yellow warnings still in force quite widely, there is still a chance of more localised and isolated impacts from thunderstorms."
This includes "large downpours bringing the risk of a bit of flash flooding and big puddles that could cause some travel disruption", he added.
The yellow thunderstorm warning in place for Saturday afternoon covers all of England except for the south west.
These additional warnings are in place:
- * Yellow warning of rain for all of Devon, Cornwall and south Wales, with a risk of localised flooding, thunderstorms and transport disruption, from 18:00 on Saturday until 21:00 on Sunday
* Yellow warning of thunderstorms for the western half of Northern Ireland from 12:00 until 18:00 on Saturday
* Yellow warning of rain covering all of Scotland, apart from the Hebrides and some areas of the western coast, from midday on Saturday until midday on Sunday
* On Monday, from 11:00 to 21:00, a yellow warning for heavy showers and thunderstorms for all of central, southern and northern England apart from the south west - as well as all of central and southern Scotland.
Yellow alerts indicate a "slight chance" of power cuts, flooding for roads and businesses and some delays and cancellations to train and bus services, according to the Met Office.
Re: School trip coach involved in a collision, Wheddon Cross, Somerset 17/07/2025 In "Buses and other ways to travel" [363355/30461/5] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:02, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
More than £12k raised for school coach crash victims

A fundraiser launched to support the families affected by a coach crash which killed a 10-year-old boy has raised more than £12,000 in 24 hours.
The community in Minehead, Somerset, has been left devastated by the crash which happened on the way back from a school trip to Exmoor Zoo on Thursday. Six children remain in hospital - two at Bristol Children's Hospital and four in Somerset. Three adults are also being treated in hospital.
Bobbie Rammond, a resident and small business owner in west Somerset, launched the fundraiser on Friday. In a statement, Mr Rammond said: "This tragedy has shaken the local community, and like many others, I felt a strong desire to do what I could to help."
Avon and Somerset Police declared a major incident after the single-vehicle collision at Cutcombe Hill near Wheddon Cross at about 15:00 BST on Thursday.
The coach, which was carrying about 70 people, flipped on to its roof and slid down a bank. Many of those on board were pupils from Minehead Middle School.
Mr Rammond said the community fund would help support those directly affected by the crash. "I understand this is a sensitive time, and while the specific use of the fund will be shaped by the needs of those involved, my promise is to ensure it reaches the people who need it most," Mr Rammond said. "As a father of two young children myself, I can only begin to imagine the pain and heartbreak that so many are experiencing right now," he added.
Mr Rammond said the money would be used to provide urgent help and support for those injured, hospitalised and directly impacted by the "heartbreaking" crash. He said it would also help those who needed emotional and psychological help, even if they were not physically harmed in the incident.

A fundraiser launched to support the families affected by a coach crash which killed a 10-year-old boy has raised more than £12,000 in 24 hours.
The community in Minehead, Somerset, has been left devastated by the crash which happened on the way back from a school trip to Exmoor Zoo on Thursday. Six children remain in hospital - two at Bristol Children's Hospital and four in Somerset. Three adults are also being treated in hospital.
Bobbie Rammond, a resident and small business owner in west Somerset, launched the fundraiser on Friday. In a statement, Mr Rammond said: "This tragedy has shaken the local community, and like many others, I felt a strong desire to do what I could to help."
Avon and Somerset Police declared a major incident after the single-vehicle collision at Cutcombe Hill near Wheddon Cross at about 15:00 BST on Thursday.
The coach, which was carrying about 70 people, flipped on to its roof and slid down a bank. Many of those on board were pupils from Minehead Middle School.
Mr Rammond said the community fund would help support those directly affected by the crash. "I understand this is a sensitive time, and while the specific use of the fund will be shaped by the needs of those involved, my promise is to ensure it reaches the people who need it most," Mr Rammond said. "As a father of two young children myself, I can only begin to imagine the pain and heartbreak that so many are experiencing right now," he added.
Mr Rammond said the money would be used to provide urgent help and support for those injured, hospitalised and directly impacted by the "heartbreaking" crash. He said it would also help those who needed emotional and psychological help, even if they were not physically harmed in the incident.
Re: Weather updates, from across our area - merged posts In "Across the West" [363354/29177/26] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:49, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Amber weather warning over but flash flood threat remains
Yellow weather warnings for thunderstorms and heavy rain are in place for much of the UK, bringing potential for flash flooding.
Most of England falls under the alert which runs until 21:00 BST and may cause disruption to travel, fast-flowing water and power cuts, the Met Office says.
A separate yellow rain warning covers eastern Scotland from the Borders up to Aberdeen, running from 16:00 on Saturday until noon on Sunday.
It follows the agency issuing a more severe amber thunderstorm warning for London and south-east England which ended at 11:00 on Saturday, though the "torrential downpours" forecast were not as bad as feared.
The wet weekend comes after a third heatwave of the year that parched swathes of the UK and led to several hosepipe bans being declared.
The recent warm spell has made flooding more likely and severe as the dry ground is unable to absorb as much water.
While the more severe warning is now over, the yellow thunderstorm warning in place for Saturday afternoon covers all of England except for the south west.
All of Cornwall and much of Devon fall under a separate yellow warning for rain from midday on Sunday until the early hours of Monday.
This is alongside the rain warning in eastern and central Scotland, which runs overnight on Saturday.
Wales and Northern Ireland have escaped the alerts.
Yellow alerts indicate a "slight chance" of power cuts, flooding for roads and businesses and some delays and cancellations to train and bus services, according to the Met Office.
Thunderstorms develop when warm and humid air exists below much colder air in the atmosphere. This destabilises the air, allowing clouds to form and produce heavy rain - and storms.
They have developed over northern France but they will be allowed to "grow" as they move north over the eastern half of the UK on Saturday.
(BBC article continues)
Yellow weather warnings for thunderstorms and heavy rain are in place for much of the UK, bringing potential for flash flooding.
Most of England falls under the alert which runs until 21:00 BST and may cause disruption to travel, fast-flowing water and power cuts, the Met Office says.
A separate yellow rain warning covers eastern Scotland from the Borders up to Aberdeen, running from 16:00 on Saturday until noon on Sunday.
It follows the agency issuing a more severe amber thunderstorm warning for London and south-east England which ended at 11:00 on Saturday, though the "torrential downpours" forecast were not as bad as feared.
The wet weekend comes after a third heatwave of the year that parched swathes of the UK and led to several hosepipe bans being declared.
The recent warm spell has made flooding more likely and severe as the dry ground is unable to absorb as much water.
While the more severe warning is now over, the yellow thunderstorm warning in place for Saturday afternoon covers all of England except for the south west.
All of Cornwall and much of Devon fall under a separate yellow warning for rain from midday on Sunday until the early hours of Monday.
This is alongside the rain warning in eastern and central Scotland, which runs overnight on Saturday.
Wales and Northern Ireland have escaped the alerts.
Yellow alerts indicate a "slight chance" of power cuts, flooding for roads and businesses and some delays and cancellations to train and bus services, according to the Met Office.
Thunderstorms develop when warm and humid air exists below much colder air in the atmosphere. This destabilises the air, allowing clouds to form and produce heavy rain - and storms.
They have developed over northern France but they will be allowed to "grow" as they move north over the eastern half of the UK on Saturday.
(BBC article continues)
Re: "More trains than usual needing repair" In "Across the West" [363353/30447/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 11:23, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Reading - Gatwick & Reading - Basingstoke getting clobbered today with this being given as a reason - can't really attribute it to air conditioning today...............leaky roofs perhaps?
Re: USA / Railroad death rate In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [363352/15727/52] Posted by grahame at 11:02, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Four years later - the Florida toll continues
And a further update https://www.jalopnik.com/1914105/brightline-train-deadlier-than-we-thought/
America's Deadliest Train Is Deadlier Than We Thought
Brightline has been touted as a success for proving that a privately operated passenger rail service can be commercially viable, but the railroad's record is far from pristine. A year-long investigation by the Miami Herald and WLRN published on Tuesday found that Brightline trains have killed 182 people since testing began in 2017. That death toll is significantly higher than the previously known 162 fatalities. Despite all the evidence to the contrary, Brightline remains adamant that it's not the reason why the Miami-to-Orlando railroad is the deadliest in the country by far.
While you might have seen a few high-profile incidents where an impatient driver goes around a dropped crossing gate to get t-boned by a Brightline train, collisions with cars make up a minority of the fatal incidents. Only 24 of the 182 people killed were in cars. The rest of the deaths were people on foot or riding bicycles. A majority of these deaths didn't involve people ignoring flashing lights or a barrier gate because they didn't happen at a railroad crossing.
Brightline has been touted as a success for proving that a privately operated passenger rail service can be commercially viable, but the railroad's record is far from pristine. A year-long investigation by the Miami Herald and WLRN published on Tuesday found that Brightline trains have killed 182 people since testing began in 2017. That death toll is significantly higher than the previously known 162 fatalities. Despite all the evidence to the contrary, Brightline remains adamant that it's not the reason why the Miami-to-Orlando railroad is the deadliest in the country by far.
While you might have seen a few high-profile incidents where an impatient driver goes around a dropped crossing gate to get t-boned by a Brightline train, collisions with cars make up a minority of the fatal incidents. Only 24 of the 182 people killed were in cars. The rest of the deaths were people on foot or riding bicycles. A majority of these deaths didn't involve people ignoring flashing lights or a barrier gate because they didn't happen at a railroad crossing.
Re: Mystery trips In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [363351/25805/52] Posted by grahame at 10:53, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
And now a mystery cruise - I wonder how secret they'll manage to keep it ...
https://www.fredolsencruises.com/cruise/captains-european-mystery-cruise-s2627
This brand-new Mystery Cruise has been carefully crafted by our Journey Planners, with the expertise of our very own Captain Degerlund. You’ll visit four European countries, calling into ports not featured on any other itinerary in 2026. An atmosphere of anticipation will begin the moment you step on board, building as your journey progresses, with everyone having their theory as to which port will appear on the horizon next. To keep the mystery alive, each port will remain a secret until the last possible moment – you won’t know where you’re going until you arrive. With unique locations, unexpected discoveries and a true sense of adventure, this one-of-a-kind journey promises surprises at every turn.
"Four European Countries" ... well - it could be Rosyth (Scotland), Skjolden (Norway), Hirtshals (Denmark) and Bologne (France) ...
Re: Campaign for Tavistock reopening In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [363350/804/28] Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:30, 19th July 2025 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
IMO, it's a very smart move by the campaigners to link Tavistock and Plympton to new housing, defence spending/investment in Devonport dockyard and net zero. Money for purely civilian projects is going to be extremely tight but integrating the bid with three govt top priorities means that it has a better chance of moving forward.
It's an interesting thought but I'm not sure how the link stands up - the new Sherford housing development next to Plymstock was recently completed and is served by additional buses in terms of public transport.
As an ex Dockyardie myself, I always got the bus to/from work as it virtually dropped me at the gate. There are already direct buses from the Plympton area to the Dockyard timed to fit in with shift start/finish times - no reason why this can't be added to if necessary thus avoiding the enormous expense of new railway stations and infrastructure.
I certainly don't hear a clamour for a railway station from friends in Plympton.
Tavistock may be a different story of course, much further out of town and harder to reach.
Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion In "Across the West" [363349/18719/26] Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:23, 19th July 2025 Already liked by TaplowGreen | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Dare I ask, has any progress been made on negotiations to treat the cause rather than the symptoms (ie getting Sundays within the working week), or is that one still on the "too difficult" pile?
There was an update a couple of weeks ago - post #2690.
Adding to that, I think the TM’s are further advanced and their proposals have already been submitted to the DfT.
Re: Campaign for Tavistock reopening In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [363348/804/28] Posted by grahame at 10:09, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
IMO, it's a very smart move by the campaigners to link Tavistock and Plympton to new housing, defence spending/investment in Devonport dockyard and net zero. Money for purely civilian projects is going to be extremely tight but integrating the bid with three govt top priorities means that it has a better chance of moving forward.
If we are putting ourselves onto a more defence footing, can I ask how vulnerable the sea wall and cliffs at Dawlish would be to a targeted hostile attack, and whether it would make sense to plan for a second rail route into Plymouth - perhaps (indeed) via Tavistock and then past Ernesettle, Dockyard and Devonport? That would leave a single point of potential failure from just Cowley Bridge Junction to the south end of Exeter St Davids either of which could be sorted by a triangular junction.
Snake Pass - A57 road between Sheffield and Manchester In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [363347/30466/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:04, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Getting worse / global warming / changing climate / or lack of maintenance or am I just noticing??
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yrnz5wxgko
Snake Pass: Could famous road close to cars?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yrnz5wxgko
Snake Pass: Could famous road close to cars?
From the BBC:
'Risky' Snake Pass set for £7.6m safety work

The Peak District's infamous Snake Pass is set to benefit from a £7.6m investment, it has been announced.
The Department for Transport (DfT) said the funding would deliver "lifesaving improvements" on the A57 route, which links Sheffield and Manchester.
Transport minister Lilian Greenwood said: "Anyone driving on the A57 Snake Pass knows how risky it can feel."
The planned changes include speed limit signage, stabilisation of the carriageway, improved visibility and a dedicated motorcycle barrier.
Snake Pass is regarded as one of the most scenic driving roads in the UK, and is used by about 30,000 vehicles a week. But it is also considered one of the "most high-risk" roads in England due to a series of steep bends, twists and blind junctions.
Collision data submitted to the DfT states that, between 2018 and 2023, there were five fatalities, 62 serious and 102 "slight" collision casualties.
It is often the subject of roadworks and closes regularly due to poor weather or landslips, making it dangerous to drive along.
Work to build the road began in 1818 and it opened in 1821.
Roger Hargreaves, director of Glossop Heritage Trust, previously said it was built as a turnpike - or toll road - but it was financially unsuccessful from the start and did not make enough money to maintain itself.
"First of all, the summit is at nearly 1,700ft, very exposed, and sometimes it was closed by snow for months in the winter," he said. "It was also built along ground which was not stable, and so it was really not a good idea to build a road along this route."

Snake Pass often shuts in winter due to ice and snow - and closures due to landslips are becoming so frequent that Derbyshire County Council warned it could not afford to keep repairing the road.
The authority said historical records suggested landslips had taken place along the road with closures dating back at least 90 years. It had previously asked the DfT for a "landslips fund" to keep the road open in future and said it would not have the resources to deal with a major landslip.
However, the DfT said it was "not responsible for Snake Pass" and "does not hold contingency funding for major repairs of this sort".
(BBC article continues)

The Peak District's infamous Snake Pass is set to benefit from a £7.6m investment, it has been announced.
The Department for Transport (DfT) said the funding would deliver "lifesaving improvements" on the A57 route, which links Sheffield and Manchester.
Transport minister Lilian Greenwood said: "Anyone driving on the A57 Snake Pass knows how risky it can feel."
The planned changes include speed limit signage, stabilisation of the carriageway, improved visibility and a dedicated motorcycle barrier.
Snake Pass is regarded as one of the most scenic driving roads in the UK, and is used by about 30,000 vehicles a week. But it is also considered one of the "most high-risk" roads in England due to a series of steep bends, twists and blind junctions.
Collision data submitted to the DfT states that, between 2018 and 2023, there were five fatalities, 62 serious and 102 "slight" collision casualties.
It is often the subject of roadworks and closes regularly due to poor weather or landslips, making it dangerous to drive along.
Work to build the road began in 1818 and it opened in 1821.
Roger Hargreaves, director of Glossop Heritage Trust, previously said it was built as a turnpike - or toll road - but it was financially unsuccessful from the start and did not make enough money to maintain itself.
"First of all, the summit is at nearly 1,700ft, very exposed, and sometimes it was closed by snow for months in the winter," he said. "It was also built along ground which was not stable, and so it was really not a good idea to build a road along this route."

Snake Pass often shuts in winter due to ice and snow - and closures due to landslips are becoming so frequent that Derbyshire County Council warned it could not afford to keep repairing the road.
The authority said historical records suggested landslips had taken place along the road with closures dating back at least 90 years. It had previously asked the DfT for a "landslips fund" to keep the road open in future and said it would not have the resources to deal with a major landslip.
However, the DfT said it was "not responsible for Snake Pass" and "does not hold contingency funding for major repairs of this sort".
(BBC article continues)
Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion In "Across the West" [363346/18719/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:51, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
An additional premium on top of the premium already offered for working days has been agreed from Monday 27th July for a year for drivers.
With the same premium applied to Sunday’s as well
While I don't have a problem with drivers being paid an extra premium, I might make an exception for those who put an apostrophe in a plural.

Going up from time and a half to time and two thirds.
About £50 extra per shift. I guess that’s quite good value if it entices extra drivers in and 4-6 cancellations per extra driver are avoided as a result?
We’ll see if it is enough of an incentive.
Given a driver's salary, once Rachel from Accounts has had her share via Income Tax etc, what's left of that £50 isn't going to add up to much of an incentive I'd say?
Dare I ask, has any progress been made on negotiations to treat the cause rather than the symptoms (ie getting Sundays within the working week), or is that one still on the "too difficult" pile?
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [363345/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 09:43, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Saturday July 19
11:50 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:43 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:19/07/2025 01:29
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:24 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:19/07/2025 01:52
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:19/07/2025 01:29
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:24 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:19/07/2025 01:52
Re: Campaign for Tavistock reopening In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [363344/804/28] Posted by Andy at 09:00, 19th July 2025 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Pb_devon | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
IMO, it's a very smart move by the campaigners to link Tavistock and Plympton to new housing, defence spending/investment in Devonport dockyard and net zero. Money for purely civilian projects is going to be extremely tight but integrating the bid with three govt top priorities means that it has a better chance of moving forward.
Re: The variety that is rail travel. In "The Lighter Side" [363343/30464/30] Posted by grahame at 08:54, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
3. Has to be Melksham 

Indeed - and it is the one I did NOT use public transport to reach in order to photograph. I walked.
Re: The variety that is rail travel. In "The Lighter Side" [363342/30464/30] Posted by Oxonhutch at 08:49, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
3. Has to be Melksham

Re: Senior Railcard - ongoing issues, merged posts In "Fare's Fair" [363341/26533/4] Posted by Fourbee at 08:39, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It's possible the incorrect expiry date was entered on the completed application form by the ticket office, perhaps conflated with your application date (did you renew around the end of July last year?). You could also check the receipt portion of the railcard application form to see what date was put on there (if you still have it).
In practice it wont make any difference as the date on the railcard itself is correct. Just check the date on your renewed railcard/receipt is correct. As you probably know you'll need to fill in a new application form.
Re: School trip coach involved in a collision, Wheddon Cross, Somerset 17/07/2025 In "Buses and other ways to travel" [363340/30461/5] Posted by grahame at 08:29, 19th July 2025 Already liked by GBM | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It's the wording ...
It weighed heavily on me.
It weighed heavily on me.
Please forgive the big [snip] ... which detail important issues
Support of all of those involved in any incident fails all too often - almost systemic. People are deeply, deeply effected in addition to the headliners. Facts need to be checked and questions asked if anything is to be learned, and (I am not a professional) that's a tough one. How do you do that without causing additional and perhaps exacerbated long term stress on someone who, it will (more likely than not) turn out, might have been at the wrong place at the wrong time.
I understand the conundrum; I have been on the periphery of incidents of a very different type, and I have regretted the lack of appropriate feedback to me to help with closure and moving forward. Such lacks of support and closure can indeed and often will be turning points.
Re: School trip coach involved in a collision, Wheddon Cross, Somerset 17/07/2025 In "Buses and other ways to travel" [363339/30461/5] Posted by GBM at 07:46, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It's the wording of the Police Investigation notice that got to me.
By implication it intimates you could be guilty, and the subsequent trail of events that will follow.
You've been involved in a road traffic incident, etc.
The Police investigation of course has to be thorough, but it takes time.
There's the Police investigation; the Company investigation (you're always guilty!); and any VOSA one.
Luckily I didn't need a VOSA one.
Not one ounce of empathy from the Company - all drivers on duty that morning popped in to ask how I was (while I was waiting for their investigation).
No management enquiry until 4 hours later, and that was only a passing remark/perfunctory.
Even though the incident was on hospital property, I still had to report it to the Police.
This I did very shortly after (and obtained a reference number) whilst waiting for a manager to become free for an investigation.
A week later I had a very heavy Police letter advising they'd become aware of a road traffic incident and I need to report it.
A curt reply followed with the incident reference number.
Three weeks later the Police replied that no further action would be taken - this was at the bottom of page two of a very long and heavy document.
Oddly, after the company investigation nothing more was said, either verbally or written. I suspect there was something wrong with the way the initial investigation was done, but that's supposition.
I returned to work the following day to ensure I (mentally) could drive again, and worked for a month, then retired.
It weighed heavily on me.
Re: The variety that is rail travel. In "The Lighter Side" [363338/30464/30] Posted by grahame at 07:00, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Correctly identified so far ...
1. Metz, France - Chris from Nailsea
2. Taunton - Chris from Nailsea
4. West Ealing - stuving
10. Reykjavík, Iceland - Chris from Nailsea
11. Beauly - Mark A
12. Metz - Merthyr Imp
15. Bodmin Parkway - PhilWakely
20. Somewhere on the Mollibahn, Germany - eightonedee
24. Strasbourg, France - JayMac
Re: The variety that is rail travel. In "The Lighter Side" [363337/30464/30] Posted by grahame at 06:33, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
20 looks like the Molli Bahn, Mecklenburg, Getmany - if so, I'd guess at Bad Doberan ⁷
It is the Mollibahn - though not at Bad Doberan.
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [363336/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 06:26, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
19:38 Weymouth to Swindon due 22:00
19:38 Weymouth to Swindon due 22:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
19:38 Weymouth to Swindon due 22:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Through service running from Swindon Chippenham and Melksham to Weymouth for a day out ... unmarketable as there's no through train coming back ... and the last service at Melksham is cancelled.
Re: The variety that is rail travel. In "The Lighter Side" [363335/30464/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 01:07, 19th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
As we are now past midnight, I'm going to post a further suggestion -
10. Minør, at Reykjavík, Iceland.
To be fair, we have discussed this before on the Coffee Shop forum.

Man dies after car crashes onto railway tracks - Harrogate, 18 July 2025 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [363334/30465/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:08, 18th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:

A man has died after his car left the road and crashed down a railway embankment onto tracks in Harrogate, police said.
The man, in his 70s, had been travelling on York Place in a silver VW Golf before the crash at about 15:20 BST, North Yorkshire Police said.
He was pronounced dead at the scene, with his family being supported by specialist officers, a spokesperson confirmed.
The road remains closed, while the railway line between Harrogate and Leeds has also closed.
Some train services between Leeds and York have been cancelled because of the disruption.
Supt Andy Nunns said York Place was "likely to remain closed for most of this evening and the railway line between Harrogate and Leeds is likely to be closed for most of the night".
He offered his condolences to the man's family.
Re: The variety that is rail travel. In "The Lighter Side" [363333/30464/30] Posted by eightonedee at 22:56, 18th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
20 looks like the Molli Bahn, Mecklenburg, Getmany - if so, I'd guess at Bad Doberan ⁷
Re: The variety that is rail travel. In "The Lighter Side" [363332/30464/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:35, 18th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
No: it's a flexibus, running on tyres on cobblestones, not on any rails. That's not a tram.

Re: The variety that is rail travel. In "The Lighter Side" [363331/30464/30] Posted by grahame at 22:26, 18th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Is 12 also Metz?
Yes, it is: darn, I missed with that second barrel. 
CfN.

CfN.

Yes - and the more difficult question - "is that a tram"?
Re: The variety that is rail travel. In "The Lighter Side" [363330/30464/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:19, 18th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Yes, it is: darn, I missed with that second barrel.

CfN.

Re: The variety that is rail travel. In "The Lighter Side" [363329/30464/30] Posted by Merthyr Imp at 22:16, 18th July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Is 12 also Metz?