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15.4.2025 (Tuesday) 12:08 - All running AOK
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Re: West Somerset Railway - Bishops Lydeard to Minehead (merged posts)
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [360549/2688/47]
Posted by broadgage at 11:59, 15th April 2025
 
Have just observed that short HST is stabled near Minehead station, adjacent to the Seaward lane level crossing.
Is just being stored ? or is the intention to use it.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [360548/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 11:35, 15th April 2025
Already liked by IndustryInsider, Witham Bobby
 
A good idea that.  Provides a daily summary in a very clear and easy to understand format and quick and easy to do. When things go wrong more detail is useful, but most of the time a screenshot like that from RTT is perfect. 

Are you listening, Melksham? 

What would improve it would be if short workings had their starting or finishing stations shown in red.
Are you listening, RTT?

Re: Single scheme needed? So people know to show xtra consideration
In "Transport for London" [360547/30147/46]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:33, 15th April 2025
 
I think there is a difference in attitude of people to those with an obvious issue (and, ChrisB, your wheelchair is obvious) and those with a less or invisible issue. People tend to do the right thing (and delighted you confirm it, Chris) if the issue is to be seen.

Indeed.  There's been a big focus on staff training for dealing with hidden disabilities in recent years.  The general public hasn't been trained though.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [360546/29711/14]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:29, 15th April 2025
 
Monday April 14

A good day. Attached is the RTT listing for GWR at Evesham.  Only three red departures, and the worst of those was +7. No short workings.

A good idea that.  Provides a daily summary in a very clear and easy to understand format and quick and easy to do. When things go wrong more detail is useful, but most of the time a screenshot like that from RTT is perfect. 

Are you listening, Melksham? 

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360545/30134/1]
Posted by Mark A at 10:16, 15th April 2025
 
Posted from a very old laptop without a smell checker - so probably even more typos than usual!
**snip**
... but because he works for SWR and the train is run by GWR, he can't do anything to let people know there are connecting passengers. He assures me it will be better when everyone is nationalised and they run like a network.
**snip**

Great. Now I'm going to have that earworm from Handel's Messiah playing in my head for a couple of hours.

Mark

Gunnislake branch shut 15/04/2025
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [360544/30151/25]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:27, 15th April 2025
 
Alterations to services between Plymouth and Gunnislake
Due to a fault with the signalling system between Plymouth and Gunnislake the line is closed.
Train services running to and from these stations have been suspended. Disruption is expected until 09:45 15/04.
Customer Advice
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We are sorry for the delay to your journey.
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Owing to a fault with the signalling system we are unable to run trains between Plymouth and Gunnislake. Network Rail have specialist staff are attending who will investigate and fix the fault.
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We have arranged taxis to run in place of the train service. Before getting in any taxi vehicle please check with the driver that they are working on behalf of GWR, the driver should not ask for payment. Please check the stations Onward Travel Information poster and wait for the replacement road transport at the designated stop.
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If you are travelling from an unstaffed station, and no taxi arrives, please use the Customer Help Point or contact National Rail Enquiries on 03457 484 950 detailing the total number of passengers in your party and your intended destination.
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We will update this message with more information when we have it.
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Further Information
An update will follow within the next 2 hours.
If you require further information please speak to our staff at the station or on the train, use the Customer Help Point, message us on X @GWRHelp or call National Rail Enquiries on 03457 484 950.

If you arrive at your destination 15 or more minutes late because your GWR train was delayed or cancelled, you can claim Delay Repay compensation. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:15/04/2025 08:51

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360543/30134/1]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:11, 15th April 2025
Already liked by Mark A, chuffed
 
Very, very disappointing

What stops staff of one operator getting information to/from staff of a different operator?  Nothing.  If they wanted to, they would.  Via the two operator's control Offices, if necessary

Four Platforms Now!

Re: "Long Products"... Steel Rail.
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360542/30070/51]
Posted by broadgage at 07:47, 15th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Network rail have already tested arc-furnace produced rails from a European supplier with no ill effects

Yes, but my point was not in reference to the quality of arc furnace steel, but referred to the problems in supplying enough electricity at an affordable price and without interfering with the supply to other customers.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [360541/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 07:36, 15th April 2025
 
Monday April 14

A good day. Attached is the RTT listing for GWR at Evesham.  Only three red departures, and the worst of those was +7. No short workings.

Though 1W05 19:53 London Paddington to Hereford was a 5-car unit - which means that Tuesday's 1P02 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington (08:23) is a 5-car.

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360540/30134/1]
Posted by grahame at 07:28, 15th April 2025
Already liked by PrestburyRoad, Witham Bobby, froome
 
Posted from a very old laptop without a smell checker - so probably even more typos than usual!

The passennger experience ... found wanting

The 17:42 from Salisbury to Westbury ... delayed by 25 minutes as I waited on the platform at Salisbury yesterday "due to a late running train in front of this one".  The reason may be true, but 25 minutes is a heck of a long delay for getting caught with another train in the way, ans is it just me, or does it conveniently pass the blame on to some other operator?   The official departure board says it will now arrive in Westbury at 18:35 - in time for the 18:37 to Melksham, and a member of staff re-assures my that the connection will make, but because he works for SWR and the train is run by GWR, he can't do anything to let people know there are connecting passengers. He assures me it will be better when everyone is nationalised and they run like a network.

The train leaves Salisbury at about the newly scheduled time - with an arrival expected (ha,ha) into Westbury 2 minutes before the Swindon service is due to leave, but then slows down and comes to a halt at the signal on the approach to Warminster.  It seems that the stock for the 18:29 from Warminster to Bristol is sitting in the platform at Warminster and we have to wait for it to leave, on time.  And after a Warminster call, we come to a further signal stop just after leaving Warminster as the Bristol stopper dawdles down the hill to Westbury.

26 minutes late from Salisbury and through the countryside
30 minutes late into Warminster
35 minutes late from the Warminster signal
(as an aside - 42 minutes late by Bristol Temple Meads)

So why was the 18:29 Bristol stopper crossed over at Westbury ahead of the semi-fsat from Portsnmouth?   I don't know; it's not the first time it's happened and it's usuaully done to clear the local train off the line in the other direction - except that yesterday that wasn't necessary - it was done to get it out of the way of a train that had been cancelled - a phantom train.  Poor decision - or poor tools provided to the staff making the decisions to do their best on a congested railway?

No announcements on the train at all from Salisbury until the approach to Westbury. The only sight of the train manager was to see her briefly dash through to hand someone a ticket - I suspect concluding a transaction started south of Salisbury.  No explanation of the 10 minutes of signal stops which was disappointing - we were all sitting there in the countryside wondering why our train had come to a halt. She DID announce ongoing trains and platforms as we approached Westbury - studiously ignoring advise for any passengers looking to connect on to the Swindon train, which of all the changes is the most natural onwards flow rather than the doglegs helpfully offered.

Train staff at Westbury approached as they were standing around chatting and confirmed that the Swindon had left.  Looked confused when asked about the next one - looked at the departures display and it offered nothing.   As customer asked about the 20:06 to Cheltenham Spa and "Oh yes that's the next one".  Referred me on to platform staff who confirmed that the 20:06 was next, there was nothing between, and advised me to change at Bath Spa. "For Melksham?" I asked  "Oh - you'll have to wait if you want to go there" in a tone that made me feel very little indeed. "Are there any buses available?" I asked - "I wouldn't know about that" says the bloke.  Now in some ways, correct in the next train. Not sure what my rights would have been for alternative provision.  And - wouldn't you think - that in a public transport network the staffwould be informed / have the tools to advise the next quickest way to get to destination.  Of course, when it's all nationnalised it will be much better, won't it?

Ah - but, yes, I feel for the staff. The tools are often embryonic and give incorrect forecasts (there was no way the connection was going to make - systems clearly allowing predictions that put 2 trains on the same track at the same time) and don't offer alternatives if that don't happen to be run by the same First subsidiary. 

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360539/30134/1]
Posted by GBM at 07:00, 15th April 2025
 
Returning to Plymouth for a moment, if I may?

God's own City!

Hope you enjoyed Plymouth!

My home city, too.

From grahame's pictures: 6. Saltram House.  A quite large National Trust property, absolutely beautiful.  I used to live fairly near it, so our family went for many walks around the grounds and gardens.

As children, we were shown the 'secret door' in the Library by our guide: I could probably show you the hidden release catch now, if I were there, such was the fun we had finding it. 

Chris from Plymouth. 

My student study city for three and a bit years (or was it four!).
Where I joined my second ship.

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360538/30134/1]
Posted by grahame at 05:50, 15th April 2025
 
Returning to Plymouth for a moment, if I may?

God's own City!

Hope you enjoyed Plymouth!

My home city, too.

[snip]

Chris from Plymouth. 

A lovely weekend based in Saltash and 000s more pictures to share - BUT - coffee spilled in my laptop "Cato" (and it was excellent coffee to waste) was also terminal to Cato.  Thought I had got away with it ... headed by train towards Falmouth but by the time I got to Truro it was clear that Cato was terminal without help ... straight back on the train to Plymouth and the Apple Store Genius Clinic who, sadly, with the covers off confirmed my diagnosis.

My daily mile was satisfied wandering around and back up to the station later ... and then by train change at Exeter St Davids, Salisbury, Westbury, Bath Spa then the bus to Melksham.   That was another change of plans.

The 17:42 off Salisbury (Portsmouth to Cardiff train) was shown as being 25 minutes late, showing at 18:35 arrival into Westbury, just in time for the 18:37 connection on to Melksham at 18:53, so home at 19:15. Ah yes, but ... we came to a stand on the approach to Warminster, dropped another 4 minutes there, and then came to a halt (signal?) just after leaving Warminster too.  Real Time Trains confirmed that the 18:37 to Swindon had left on time as we passed through Dilton Marsh.   I ended up catching the next Bath Spa train and the bus from there - 20:30 into the Market Place and home at 20:35.    Another example of the  terrible toll exacted by a short(ish) delay when compounded and connecting into an infrequent service. 


Re: Jethro
In "The Lighter Side" [360537/25768/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:36, 14th April 2025
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 
Jethro's humour extended into Norfolk, as well.  This clip, from 'The Generation Game out-takes' had me rofl:

From YouTube, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twYZH_XNqDk - just under 3 minutes of pure corpsing, with Jim Davidson. 


Re: Can a penguin fly a helicopter?
In "The Lighter Side" [360536/30137/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:56, 14th April 2025
 
I sent a link to this story to my brother-in-law, who used to live in Port Elizabeth, Eastern Cape: his observation, in a typically laconic South African style was, "An unusual story !!"

CfN. 

Re: Plym Valley Railway - Marsh Mills to Plym Bridge - merged posts
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [360532/11624/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:46, 14th April 2025
 
I visited today ... two HST power cars ... seems a bit like overkill ...




Blimey!  How did they get there? 

Re: Single scheme needed? So people know to show xtra consideration
In "Transport for London" [360531/30147/46]
Posted by grahame at 21:42, 14th April 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Witham Bobby
 
I think there is a difference in attitude of people to those with an obvious issue (and, ChrisB, your wheelchair is obvious) and those with a less or invisible issue. People tend to do the right thing (and delighted you confirm it, Chris) if the issue is to be seen.

Re: More than half of train travellers now use the railway for leisure
In "Across the West" [360529/30146/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:12, 14th April 2025
Already liked by Kempis, Chris from Nailsea, grahame, GBM
 
From the Swindon Advertiser

More than half of train travellers now use the railway for leisure - according to new research.


The research for the Department for Transport found that 54 per cent of respondents travelled for leisure, while 30 per cent commuted for work or education, and 15 per cent travelled for business.

The railway is described as "the backbone of our economy" by rail minister Lord Peter Hendy, who highlighted how the network connects people nationwide.

He said: "This research shows thousands of passengers choose the train for their leisure travel.

I would hope that Peter Hendy already knew hw had a strong leisure customer base ... that the DfT's research told him and them a bit more than that. 

I believe he's been somewhat distracted recently, although still in the driving seat.

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360528/30134/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:08, 14th April 2025
Already liked by Kempis, GBM
 
Returning to Plymouth for a moment, if I may?

God's own City!

Hope you enjoyed Plymouth!

My home city, too.

From grahame's pictures: 6. Saltram House.  A quite large National Trust property, absolutely beautiful.  I used to live fairly near it, so our family went for many walks around the grounds and gardens.

As children, we were shown the 'secret door' in the Library by our guide: I could probably show you the hidden release catch now, if I were there, such was the fun we had finding it. 

Chris from Plymouth. 

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360527/30134/1]
Posted by ellendune at 17:59, 14th April 2025
 
It is signposted from the railway station.

I know, but I would find it hard to follow them if I didn't already know how to get there

Re: "Long Products"... Steel Rail.
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360526/30070/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:11, 14th April 2025
 
Netwrk rail have already tested arc-furnace produced rails from a European supplier with no ill effects

Re: "Long Products"... Steel Rail.
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360525/30070/51]
Posted by broadgage at 15:41, 14th April 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby
 
Electric arc furnaces are very useful for recycling of scrap steel, but are not used for production of new material from iron ore.
They also consume a great amount of electricity, and there are already concerns as to the adequacy of UK electricity supplies.
UK electricity is very expensive, and is arguably overpriced, this wont encourage widespread use.

Arc furnaces are also a very "disturbing" load and often require expensive grid upgrades so as to minimise adverse effects on existing customers.

Skew Bridge, Bath: reactive repair under way
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [360524/30149/10]
Posted by Mark A at 15:08, 14th April 2025
 
Inspection of Skew Bridge, at the west end of Bath Spa Station, has revealed a defect, repairs underway as a matter of urgency. The Bath Echo web site has more.

Mark

https://www.bathecho.co.uk/news/community/emergency-repairs-historic-gwr-bridge-bath-110534/

Re: Spreading wings for a few days
In "Introductions and chat" [360523/30134/1]
Posted by bobm at 13:27, 14th April 2025
 
It is signposted from the railway station.

Re: Frecciarossa9296
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [360522/30148/52]
Posted by Mark A at 12:24, 14th April 2025
 
More background in the post on this link. Initially trespass-related.

Mark

https://bsky.app/profile/ogilvie.org.uk/post/3lmrdurne4c2r

Frecciarossa9296
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [360521/30148/52]
Posted by Mark A at 12:22, 14th April 2025
 
Frecciarossa9296 is a Paris Milan train on the once again intact fast route I think.

Its passengers encountered a bit of a stranding yesterday, with not much by way of assistance for some time. Stationary for 3.5 hours with not much by way of information - and no power. There's a Bluesky thread on the link - the thread visible to is all, Bluesky doesn't impose the need for an account to view content.

Mark

https://bsky.app/profile/andrewstroehlein.bsky.social/post/3lmpquq7fgk2j

Re: Single scheme needed? So people know to show xtra consideration
In "Transport for London" [360520/30147/46]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:16, 14th April 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Timmer, Chris from Nailsea, JayMac, grahame, eightonedee
 
In my lived experience, I have been somewhat pleasantly surprised by people's general reaction to me in my wheelchair - I have rarely experienced as you describe - almost not at all in two years. That actually impressed me as my lived able-bodied life experience made me think the way you have above.

 
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