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Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368177/30953/26]
Posted by grahame at 21:44, 14th November 2025
 
The 20:12 Swindon-Westbury has reached Trowbridge on time.

I wonder if any passengers for Bath or Bristol were directed this way? - in spite of the cancellation of one service from Salisbury, there's a fair connection onto the Portsmouth-Cardiff.

It was an very unfortunate evening for a Swindon - Westbury (18:44) and a Westbury - Swindon (20:06) to be cancelled, wasn't it?

There is an ability to reverse trains at Bradford Junction, added for use during the closures for (non)electrification of Box tunnel. Why on earth is this not used?

Meldon Viaduct - in need of major repairs
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [368176/31097/28]
Posted by grahame at 21:37, 14th November 2025
 
From the BBC

Published - 13 November 2025

A historic viaduct on Dartmoor will need up to £3m of repairs over the next 10 years it has emerged.

Meldon Viaduct is 165m (540ft) long and was constructed just outside Okehampton in the 1870s to cater for the London and South West Railway line.

The viaduct is a scheduled monument and one of only two surviving railway bridges in the UK built with wrought iron lattice piers and trusses.

The Meldon Viaduct Company that was set up in 1998 to maintain the viaduct and attract funding for repair works is being dissolved with Devon County Council taking on full control of the management of the viaduct.

A report for Devon County Council's cabinet said: "The viaduct requires significant renovation works estimated at £2m-3m over the next decade.

"Survey works have been initiated to prepare for these renovations, but the funding has not yet been found."

The idea behind setting up the Meldon Viaduct Company had been that it would be able to apply for funding not available to local authorities.

However, the report said the company had raised funds "at a very slow rate" and the county council would now be exploring funding from bodies such as the National Lottery Heritage Fund and Historic England.

The viaduct now carries the Granite Way, a cycle and footpath connecting Okehampton with Lydford, which is part of a route known as the Devon Coast to Coast, external.

I have posted this in "new and improved services" and not historic.  I would love to see it improved for trains - from Okehampton in one direction and from Tavistock and Bere Alston in the other. 

Re: IKEA Bristol by bus
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368175/31095/5]
Posted by JayMac at 21:17, 14th November 2025
 
I maybe a bit of a masochist but I used to enjoy the walk from Stapleton Road station to IKEA when I lived in Bristol.

I did manage once to carry a flat packed fabric wardrobe home with me to Lawrence Weston via train and bus. Most trips though were for smaller items like kitchenware, linen and other homewares. I quickly learnt the shortcuts when all I wanted was some cutlery or a sauté pan.

I concur about the cooked breakfasts. There's nowhere else where you can get nine cooked breakfast items for under four quid. I always add black pudding for an extra, bargain, 75p.

Nowadays, visits to IKEA are by car to the Exeter branch. Visited a few weeks ago for some pillows, bed linen and kitchen knick-knacks. And meatballs of course.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368174/30953/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:14, 14th November 2025
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gw5xxej04o


Routes between London Paddington and Bristol and Swansea are closed due to flooding on the tracks, including here at Corsham near Bath

Re: IKEA Bristol by bus
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368173/31095/5]
Posted by johnneyw at 21:07, 14th November 2025
 
I've found that the walk from Stapleton Road railway station to IKEA takes about ten minutes if you take the road beneath the motorway that leads to the outside car parking area.

Re: BTP Officer convicted of assault
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368172/30896/51]
Posted by JayMac at 21:02, 14th November 2025
 
An appropriate sentence with, I suspect, small premiums for the aggravating factors of being a police officer and pleading not guilty.

I don't think he'll be a police officer for much longer.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368171/30953/26]
Posted by Trowres at 20:59, 14th November 2025
 
The 20:12 Swindon-Westbury has reached Trowbridge on time.

I wonder if any passengers for Bath or Bristol were directed this way? - in spite of the cancellation of one service from Salisbury, there's a fair connection onto the Portsmouth-Cardiff.

Meanwhile in the opposite direction there's a FO 9 coach IET running ECS Westbury-North Pole.

Some Paddington-Bristol services (in both directions) are being diverted via Newbury, although GWR Journeycheck is notably lacking in this bit of info (deliberate or not?)




Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368170/30953/26]
Posted by a-driver at 20:35, 14th November 2025
 
The line between Chippenham and Bath Spa is under several feet of water.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2025
In "TransWilts line" [368169/29726/18]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:34, 14th November 2025
 
Chippenham - Bath was under water at one point today

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368168/30953/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:32, 14th November 2025
 
But is it better to try & run (& then fail) or to advise in advance & not trap anyone away from 'home'?

That's the conundrum, and a very difficult one - especially so in weather like today's where there may not be any available road transport should you try & run & find you can't.....

Hmmm......I bet they wish that they'd been told not to travel this morning.....

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368167/30953/26]
Posted by grahame at 20:29, 14th November 2025
 
Chaos at Swindon

Whats happening at the train station loads of police and it looks like they’re not letting anyone in

Trains are cancelled due to flooding and ppl fighting over taxis no system in place for passengers who are stuck getting home

Trains cancelled and no spare transport to shuttle ppl.

Re: Where was PhilW - 05/08/25
In "The Lighter Side" [368166/30540/30]
Posted by PhilWakely at 19:56, 14th November 2025
 
https://www.pecorama.co.uk/

Pecorama Public Statement: November 2025

It is with great sadness and after much soul-searching we have decided to close Pecorama, our well-loved family attraction, for the 2026 season. Despite Pecorama having had a busy year of trading involving its 50 th anniversary of the Beer Heights Railway and concluding this past half term week with rewarding Halloween events, the business continues to make a loss.

Very sad 

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368165/30953/26]
Posted by grahame at 19:36, 14th November 2025
 
DO NOT TRAVEL warnings now issued -

PAD - BRI

PAD - South Wales

Exeter & Barnstaple

HFD - WOS

From my email

Dear Graham,

You may have seen that weather warnings have been issued for Storm Claudia with wind speeds of up to 80mph and heavy rain through the weekend. We have already experienced flooding on some sections of the network and we would urge all customers to check before travel by visiting:

www.gwr.com/check

Further travel information is also available through our live network updates page:

https://www.gwr.com/travel-information/travel-updates/live-network-updates

Due to current heavy flooding of the railway we are asking that customers do not travel on the following train lines:

London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads via Swindon and Bath Spa
London Paddington to Swansea via Bristol Parkway and Cardiff
Exeter St Davids and Barnstaple
Hereford and Worcester Shrub Hill
On these routes we advise customers do not attempt to travel as we are unable to source any meaningful replacement road transport and cannot guarantee to be able to get you to your destination today. If you are able to make alternative travel arrangements we strongly suggest you do so. Customers with tickets for travel today will be able to use their ticket for travel up to and including Sunday 16 November. For refunds and compensation, including delay repay, please visit GWR compensation.

This graphic may be useful to share with your networks.

Any support you can provide communicating this would be much appreciated and please do not hesitate to get in touch should you have any queries.

Best wishes,

Olivia

Olivia Barlow | Deputy Head of Public Affairs | Great Western Railway
E: olivia.barlow@GWR.com

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2025
In "TransWilts line" [368164/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 19:28, 14th November 2025
 
Understable with lines closed all over the place by lines that are flooded.  Not, as far as I can see, on the lines these trains would have used but these of all the services over the line are those which probably have the most complex stock and crew rostering

Re: IKEA Bristol by bus
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368163/31095/5]
Posted by Mark A at 18:51, 14th November 2025
Already liked by JayMac
 
How do you get on, carrying your Rakeestad 3-door wardrobe flatpack on your back, as you board the bus?

The driver of the bus was very understanding.

Mark

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2025
In "TransWilts line" [368162/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 18:50, 14th November 2025
 
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06

20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06 will be cancelled.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.

Blood-stained trespasser boards empty HEX train before accessing cab
In "London to Reading" [368161/31096/7]
Posted by ChrisB at 18:41, 14th November 2025
 
Put here as no board for HEX services, and now operated by GWR under contract, not TfL.

From Rail magazine

An investigation has been launched after a blood-stained trespasser managed to board an empty Heathrow Express train.

A London Paddington-Reading depot empty stock movement made up to two Class 387s was held at a red signal by Southall East Junction shortly at approximately 2347 on Saturday November 8 due to reports of a trespasser.

It’s understood the trespasser then managed to force open a door before climbing in with the subsequent loss of interlocking alerting the driver.

He then made his way through the train to the front, pushing passenger alarms, eventually accessing the cab. It was reported he was covered in blood and said people were going to kill him.

The driver, unable to calm the man, struggled to leave the cab and was said to be fearing for his life, concerned about the man’s intentions. The reasons for the trespasser to have blood on him are unknown.

..../continues

Horrendous

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368160/30953/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 18:36, 14th November 2025
 
DO NOT TRAVEL warnings now issued -

PAD - BRI

PAD - South Wales

Exeter & Barnstaple

HFD - WOS

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2025
In "TransWilts line" [368159/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 17:58, 14th November 2025
 
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06

17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 will be cancelled.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.
Last Updated:14/11/2025 17:47

Re: Where was PhilW - 05/08/25
In "The Lighter Side" [368157/30540/30]
Posted by grahame at 17:16, 14th November 2025
 
https://www.pecorama.co.uk/

Pecorama Public Statement: November 2025

It is with great sadness and after much soul-searching we have decided to close Pecorama, our well-loved family attraction, for the 2026 season. Despite Pecorama having had a busy year of trading involving its 50 th anniversary of the Beer Heights Railway and concluding this past half term week with rewarding Halloween events, the business continues to make a loss.

Re: IKEA Bristol by bus
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368155/31095/5]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 16:06, 14th November 2025
Already liked by Mark A, JayMac
 
From where we live, near Montpelier Station, it's a fairly pleasant and almost semi-rural walk through Narroways Nature Reserve and Narroways Road to Ikea. You can drop in at Wah Yee Hong if you need to top up on noodles etc, or follow a rather lonely path alongside the embankment that led to the Thirteen Arches of yore.

You will, as Witham Bobby points out, struggle to carry home bedroom suite. But you could choose one to be sent round, or just treat yourself to one of their astonishingly cheap Full Swedish breakfasts...

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368154/30953/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:02, 14th November 2025
Already liked by PrestburyRoad, eightonedee
 
But is it better to try & run (& then fail) or to advise in advance & not trap anyone away from 'home'?

That's the conundrum, and a very difficult one - especially so in weather like today's where there may not be any available road transport should you try & run & find you can't.....

Re: Mid Cornwall Metro - Newquay, St Austell, Truro & Falmouth
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [368153/27102/25]
Posted by RailCornwall at 15:39, 14th November 2025
 
There are a number of peak summer scheduled PAD-NQY services to cover most of that demand.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368152/30953/26]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 15:38, 14th November 2025
 
It isn't - just cutting services short in order to stand a better chance of running to time

Unless you wanted to head to Alvechurch or Redditch in my example, or to Herefordshire from Great Malvern or points east.

I realise its a huge conundrum.  But I'm pretty sure stopping the show when the weather turns adverse, but not impossibly so, is not the answer.  People need a robust train service, not one that hides in a tunnel when the rain falls

Re: IKEA Bristol by bus
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368151/31095/5]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 15:33, 14th November 2025
 
How do you get on, carrying your Rakeestad 3-door wardrobe flatpack on your back, as you board the bus?

IKEA Bristol by bus
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368150/31095/5]
Posted by Mark A at 15:13, 14th November 2025
 
tl:dr - it's doable, but...

Yes, really. It's a bit of a challenge though, sitting as it does alongside the M32 and cosying up to an urban retail centre and associated car parks.

Travelwest's app didn't quite cut it as it suggested rail all the way, with quite a hike from the stations at each end. Google maps didn't find Bristol's 25 bus route either and suggested a lengthy hike beneath the M32. Dragging info on Bristol's 25 bus to the top - then found that the route only had one bus allocated to it - which was running a quarter of an hour behind time for what should have been a half hourly bus but was now hourly.

A forty minute wait at the stop closest to Bristol bus station had sightlines to two different passenger information displays, which were each giving information that conflicted one with the other, both promising the number 25 in ten minutes, then five, then two, then 'Due' - and then, off the screen it vanished. After which, rinse and repeat. During the wait, any heavy vehicle that hit the extensive length of  damaged road surface there produced an alarming resonance and bounce beneath my feet at the bus stop c. 8 metres away and made me wonder if there was a risk of something going through the road and dropping into the culverted river Frome there.

Bristol's 25 is a shortish route that serves a string of not well off areas and people and mid-way, passes the back of the retail centre, with a pair of bus stops on a crossable road that are a five minute walk to IKEA involving stairs (which isn't particularly well signed, Openstreetmap's standard map can help here with the walking route, and then their transport layer can help with the location of the bus stop).

Knowing the other bus stop from sight, I left the bus at the stop on the wee bit of dual carriageway close to the motorway, which turned out to be not the best place as the stop is across the road from the destination - myself and half a dozen other people then crossed the queueing traffic there rather than hike down to the lights-controlled crossing 50 metres away and back up again and we'd all have been better off alighting at the rather anonymous previous stop.

**Old Railway interlude - behind that stop, the scant remains of the embankment approach to the vanished 13 arches viaduct on that line from Fishponds that ran across in the direction of Clifton Down.**

Then, into IKEA, on a quest that turned out to be successful, and back through the retail centre to that more convenient bus stop and another 40 minute wait, though things were looking up, as a second bus and driver had been sourced for the route.

It was raining, the stop had a shelter but was strangely wet - it turned out that there was a large puddle very close to the slope-edged raised kerb, well known to vehicle miscreants - the driver of the grey discovery that shortly appeared and floored it, swinging in to include the puddle and sending about 5 litres of water into the bus shelter. (Thankfully neither I nor the other intending passengers were in it at the time but I'm irked that I didn't get their numberplate, and the incident caused that other passengers to decide that perhaps it was a good idea to walk to the train at Stapleton Road instead of waiting for the distant 25 bus). Four passengers arrived, were cautioned about the puddle peril, a general conversation ensued... and after 40 minutes the 25 hauled into sight having been accurately displayed on the tracking as it went to its terminus and back and the very full bus headed back into Bristol, where it passes the (rather congested***) bus station.

From there, onto an X39 back to Bath. Bristol's road works are a permanent fixture aren't they. The X39, though, made reasonable progress and actually made a good connection with Bath's first 6a of the evening.

So, yes, IKEA, doable but not for first-time users of buses perhaps - and the retail park's design's treatment of those nearest bus stops isn't the best.

Mark

*** Noooh idea how people manage bus congestion at undersized underspecced bus stations.

Re: The roman empire's road system, mapped
In "Railway History and related topics" [368149/31067/55]
Posted by TonyK at 15:06, 14th November 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, Western Pathfinder, Clan Line, johnneyw
 
Should you wish to navigate your way around the Roman Empire's road network there is naturally a route planner now available on the Interrete!

https://www.omnesviae.org/

Dave

The trouble is that it's in Latin, and I don't speak Latin per se.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368148/30953/26]
Posted by bobm at 14:53, 14th November 2025
 
Over an inch of rain here since midnight - prior to today we had only had 14 inches all year!


 
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