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Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [361947/29650/26]
Posted by Hal at 13:39, 4th June 2025
 
Does anyone know which bridge was struck?

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [361946/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:09, 4th June 2025
 
Cancellations to services between Slough and Reading

Due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge earlier on this train's journey between Slough and Reading trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed.

 Disruption is expected until 14:00 04/06.

Re: Announcement - Billions of investment on tram, train and bus projects.
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [361945/30318/40]
Posted by Noggin at 11:51, 4th June 2025
 
I believe it's a little duller than that. Basically the reinstatement of the 2027 to 2032 Mayoral Authority funding settlement which was announced in Oct 2023 but frozen by Labour when they came into power.

It follows on from the 2022 to 2027 settlement which in the case of WECA, has mainly been bus and road focused, although there's been a fair amount of rail strategic planning with NR including a study into whether Parkway to Temple Meads could be electrified for less than originally budgeted.

I'm not sure if a detailed pipeline for 2027 to 2032 is in the public domain - the main commitments I can find are reopening Portishead (MetroWest 1b) and Henbury (MetroWest 2).

Mass transit development could be something exciting, but realistically it's probably just bits like moving the busses to the north side of Temple Meads, roadworks along the A37 and A4 corridors to make the busses run faster etc.

I suspect that in the case of WECA it's PR fluff rather than anything meaningful.





 

Re: Announcement - Billions of investment on tram, train and bus projects.
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [361944/30318/40]
Posted by John D at 11:33, 4th June 2025
 
Government announcement with the amounts and main projects by region

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/biggest-ever-investment-in-city-region-local-transport-as-chancellor-vows-the-renewal-of-britain

For West of England £800m
£150m to improve rail infrastructure across the region, including funding to support WECA’s ambitions for increased frequency of services between Brabazon and the city centre. £200m for Mass transit development between Bristol, Bath, South Gloucestershire and North Somerset.

Doesn't say what the other £450m is for.
WECA haven't uploaded anything about it, so at moment what else is funded is a mystery.



Re: Announcement - Billions of investment on tram, train and bus projects.
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [361943/30318/40]
Posted by ChrisB at 10:38, 4th June 2025
 
£800m for West of England to improve rail infrastructure, provide more frequent trains between the Brabazon industrial estate in Bristol and the city centre, and develop mass transit between Bristol, Bath, South Gloucestershire and North Somerset

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Re: European Passengers Federation - 13th and 14th June 2025
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361942/29670/52]
Posted by grahame at 10:02, 4th June 2025
 
If you might report a precis back here, it would be helpful - ticketing on day 1 & Mark Hopwood on Day 2 the most interesting - along with Bryony's 'Women in Transport'....

Indeed ... and I also have rate clarification from Bryony

€50 for TravelWatch SouthWest members. And of course to become a member for life it only costs a pound.

Re: European Passengers Federation - 13th and 14th June 2025
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361941/29670/52]
Posted by ChrisB at 10:00, 4th June 2025
 
If you might report a precis back here, it would be helpful - ticketing on day 1 & Mark Hopwood on Day 2 the most interesting - along with Bryony's 'Women in Transport'....

Re: European Passengers Federation - 13th and 14th June 2025
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361940/29670/52]
Posted by grahame at 08:31, 4th June 2025
 
I have been asked to bump this topic with a view to encouraging more to sign up by the end of this week. I am in Rouen today so peculiarly approporiat and will be signing up from here. There IS a fee involved - in this case I will be happy to pay where I am normally exceptionally limited in paying for public transport events / conferences.

Full conference welcome details are mirrored at https://www.passenger.chat/mirror/25_06_Participants_Practicalities.pdf for members of the forum

Further details at
https://www.epfconference.eu/  (this one with signup links)
https://railway200.co.uk/activity/european-passenger-federation-epf-annual-conference/


Re: Rail firms accused of misusing courts for ticket errors / fare evasion (merged posts)
In "Fare's Fair" [361938/19613/4]
Posted by grahame at 06:59, 4th June 2025
 
From The BBC

Train passengers are suffering unfair penalties for minor and often genuine mistakes in buying tickets, an inquiry has found.

The Office of Rail and Road (ORR) said Britain's fare system was "complex" and that rail firms must stop taking "disproportionate action" against travellers.

Sam Williamson, 22, thought he'd bagged a £1.90 discount on a ticket using his young person's rail card, but was threatened with court action - now dropped - as the saving didn't apply before 10am on weekdays outside of July and August.

The Rail Delivery Group, which represents rail firms, said fare evasion costs the industry £400m a year but acknowledged the industry has to be "more consistent".

Announcement - Billions of investment on tram, train and bus projects.
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [361937/30318/40]
Posted by grahame at 06:56, 4th June 2025
Already liked by matth1j
 
From The BBC

Billions of pounds of investment in transport infrastructure in England are set to be announced by Chancellor Rachel Reeves on Wednesday.

The money will be spent on tram, train and bus projects in mayoral authorities across the Midlands, the North and the West Country.

Good.

Looking at Wikipedia , 356 (yes, three hundred and fifty six) new stations have opened in the last 25 years - 100, 50, 98, 69 and 30 in each five year period.  Some of these have not been on National Rail lines, but many/most have. 

How have we done in Wiltshire?  ZERO.   The last new station was opened in 1937, and there's has been one solitary reopening (in 1985) of a station closed in 1966.    It looks like the new announcement is also a duck (zero) for us - we are not in a mayoral authority, even though parts of our county are very much part of the catchment area for WECA - where the mayoral authority is slated for a headline spend

Re: European Passengers Federation - 13th and 14th June 2025
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361936/29670/52]
Posted by grahame at 06:43, 4th June 2025
 
I have been asked to bump this topic with a view to encouraging more to sign up by the end of this week. I am in Rouen today so peculiarly approporiat and will be signing up from here. There IS a fee involved - in this case I will be happy to pay where I am normally exceptionally limited in paying for public transport events / conferences.

Re: Sodium-ion batteries and battery swapping stations
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [361935/30315/40]
Posted by grahame at 06:38, 4th June 2025
 
In my experience, 30 seconds in the railway world is faster than the speed of light

Indeed - a battery change at an intermediate stop that's this quick would be faster that the dropping off and picking up of passengers.    Of course, the need for battery changes quite frequently would mean there's a need for exchanges at places like Devizes Gateway, Somerton/Langport, Wellington and Cullompton.

Re: Melksham's rail service - where are we, on the anniversary of being Beechinged?
In "TransWilts line" [361934/30162/18]
Posted by grahame at 06:25, 4th June 2025
Already liked by matth1j
 
Upgrades needed to town’s railway services 40 years on.

https://melkshamnews.com/upgrades-needed-to-towns-railway-services-40-years-on/

There is also an excellent article on the Legal Art Wall which has transformed the pedestrian subway under the bypass which separates the town from the station

https://melkshamnews.com/melkshams-legal-art-wall-to-serve-as-model-for-other-towns/





Re: Uber plan trains through The Chunnel
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361933/30316/51]
Posted by Electric train at 06:17, 4th June 2025
 
How are they going to deal with border formalities at Ebbsfleet?   

Uber will have to fund it.  The cost of border formalities is one of the main reasons why Eurostar are not using Ebbsfleet and Ashford


Gemini, and other contenders, are however asking the ORR for access to Temple Mills depot, which is managed by Eurostar. This is also a question of limited space, and it's not clear yet much space can be made available and how this might constrain the umber of new services or operators.

Temple Mills will be the challenge to anything more than a few trains a day.  An option for a serious contender could be a new depot at Dagenham or make use of space at Dollands Moor 

Re: Uber plan trains through The Chunnel
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361932/30316/51]
Posted by stuving at 00:07, 4th June 2025
 
No one has been able to compete until the exclusivity clause for Eurostar using HS1 (or is it the Channel Tunnel?) expires

Neither. Any exclusivity was disposed of by EU directive 2007/58/EC on the liberalisation of international rail passenger services. For details see the Government's guide for potential new operators:
Directive 2007/58/EC on the liberalisation of international rail passenger services is part of the Third Railway Package measures, designed to open up international passenger services to competition within the EU from 1 January 2010. The Directive is now implemented in Great Britain. It was implemented through an amendment to the Railways Infrastructure (Access & Management) Regulations 2005 made by the Railways Infrastructure (Access & Management) (Amendment) Regulations 2009, and by an amendment to the Channel Tunnel (International Arrangements) Order 2005, made by Channel Tunnel (International Arrangements) (Amendment) Order 2009.

The Directive grants new rights of access for the purpose of operating international rail passenger services, and imposes new duties on rail regulatory bodies in relation to access to the infrastructure for those purposes.

Gemini, and other contenders, are however asking the ORR for access to Temple Mills depot, which is managed by Eurostar. This is also a question of limited space, and it's not clear yet much space can be made available and how this might constrain the umber of new services or operators.

That report has made a big thing of Uber's involvement, even saying "Uber will soon be operating trains across the English Channel". But the original launch publicity from Gemini in March didn't mention Uber, who joined in two weeks ago offering branding and the use of their app for booking. I can't find their joint press release on Gemini's site, though it is on LinkedIn.

Re: Uber plan trains through The Chunnel
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361931/30316/51]
Posted by eightonedee at 22:27, 3rd June 2025
 
How are they going to deal with border formalities at Ebbsfleet?   

Re: Melksham's rail service - where are we, on the anniversary of being Beechinged?
In "TransWilts line" [361930/30162/18]
Posted by TonyN at 22:24, 3rd June 2025
Already liked by matth1j
 
Upgrades needed to town’s railway services 40 years on.

https://melkshamnews.com/upgrades-needed-to-towns-railway-services-40-years-on/

Re: German experience - not quite as punctual as its old reputation would suggest
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361929/30313/52]
Posted by froome at 21:45, 3rd June 2025
 
On our Interrail trip last March my expectations were definitely upset by our experiences.

We traveled on trains in the following 8 countries:

UK, France, Italy, Austria, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Germany and Belgium.

Obviously in many of these, we were on trains that crossed international borders (so delays may have been caused elsewhere). But of these 8 countries, only in one did all the trains we used run to time.

And that was...






The UK!

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [361927/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 19:25, 3rd June 2025
 

With the power to the signalling at Newbury restored, the latter pair above have now been re-instated.

but ... another two cancellation.  Not exactly customer friendly, is it?

17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06

17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 was terminated at Swindon.
It will no longer call at Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Dilton Marsh, Warminster and Salisbury.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06

20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06 will be started from Swindon.
It will no longer call at Westbury, Trowbridge, Melksham and Chippenham.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361925/1219/28]
Posted by grahame at 16:46, 3rd June 2025
 
I don't believe that this has only just been classified as an England & wales project at this stage - so why complain only now?

Complain now because you're now in the role of representing the people of your constituency which wasn't a role you were in when the project was initially classified, perhaps?

And the previous incumbent didn't notice that?

Don't know ... but new MPs are not committed to the views and policies of previous ones.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [361924/29726/18]
Posted by bobm at 15:23, 3rd June 2025
 
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:00
15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19

17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system

With the power to the signalling at Newbury restored, the latter pair above have now been re-instated.

Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361923/1219/28]
Posted by ChrisB at 15:02, 3rd June 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Thanks for correcting my typo!

Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361922/1219/28]
Posted by grahame at 14:53, 3rd June 2025
 
Anyway, I'm off on Friday to the new station at Wilmslow, to check it out for accessibility.

Winslow I suspect or has Cheshire been getting rebuilds?

Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361921/1219/28]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:46, 3rd June 2025
 
Anyway, I'm off on Friday to the new station at Wilmslow, to check it out for accessibility.

Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361920/1219/28]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:45, 3rd June 2025
 
I don't believe that this has only just been classified as an England & wales project at this stage - so why complain only now?

Complain now because you're now in the role of representing the people of your constituency which wasn't a role you were in when the project was initially classified, perhaps?

And the previous incumbent didn't notice that?

Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361919/1219/28]
Posted by grahame at 14:40, 3rd June 2025
Already liked by rogerw
 
I don't believe that this has only just been classified as an England & wales project at this stage - so why complain only now?

Complain now because you're now in the role of representing the people of your constituency which wasn't a role you were in when the project was initially classified, perhaps?

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [361918/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 14:38, 3rd June 2025
 
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:00
15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:06
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19

17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system

Something looked odd here ... then I found it ... the fault isn't even on our line ...

Cancellations to services between Newbury and Westbury
Due to a fault with the signalling system between Newbury and Westbury all lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed by up to 30 minutes or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361917/1219/28]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:37, 3rd June 2025
 
I don't believe that this has only just been classified as an England & wales project at this stage - so why complain only now?

 
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