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Adverse weather 23 February Exmouth Branch
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [372747/31666/24]
Posted by Southernman at 22:48, 23rd February 2026
 
Journey Check says:-

Cancellations to services between Topsham and Exmouth
Due to a safety inspection of the track between Topsham and Exmouth the line is blocked.
Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 24/02/26.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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Due to adverse weather, the line between Topsham and Exmouth will close from 19:30 Monday, 23rd February 2026, until end of the day Tuesday, 24th February 2026
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What are we doing about it?
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Network Rail is heading to the site to assess.

Re: On this day - 23rd February 2012 - GoCo rebrands Go-op
In "Railway History and related topics" [372746/26071/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:04, 23rd February 2026
 
See also a related topic, at https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=11010.0

Re: Coroner's safety call after runner's death at Formby crossing - 24 Aug 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372745/31665/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:28, 23rd February 2026
 
I'm sure that would have been done as part of the initial report that the BTP would have prepared for the Coroner.

Re: On this day - 23rd February 2012 - GoCo rebrands Go-op
In "Railway History and related topics" [372744/26071/55]
Posted by bobm at 20:25, 23rd February 2026
 
Ironically on today’s anniversary comes the news that the dream may be over. 

Plans for a new rail service in Wiltshire and Somerset could derail, unless crucial funding can be found in the coming weeks.

Go-op Co-operative have plans to "compete with Great Western Railway" and offer more stops at stations such as Taunton, Weston-super-Mare, Westbury, Swindon and Frome through use of diesel rolling stock.

The company needs to raise £3.6m by May 2026 to make their plans a reality - but have been unable to reach their target.

Continues here -   https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99jmvl4m1po

Re: Things you have NOT done in your use of public transport
In "Introductions and chat" [372743/31633/1]
Posted by bobm at 20:14, 23rd February 2026
 
I was surprised that 15 have been involved in an accident. 

Re: Coroner's safety call after runner's death at Formby crossing - 24 Aug 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372742/31665/51]
Posted by bobm at 20:11, 23rd February 2026
 
It probably is worth checking the signage and indications are as good as they can be.  While headphones may have been the cause here there are people who are deaf or hard of hearing.  Similarly those who are blind or have less than perfect eyesight. 

Re: Things you have NOT done in your use of public transport
In "Introductions and chat" [372741/31633/1]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:52, 23rd February 2026
 
An astonishing 31 out of 36 have had a valid ticket refused by an automated gate - which suggests to me that there are questions about whether the gates are fit for purpose

Ahhhh - gates are deliberately set to often refuse tickets discounted by railcards - so as to be able to check both validity/expiry of railcard & that it is being carried. They are perfectly fit for purpose if allowed to be

Re: SWR improvements under GBR
In "South Western services" [372740/31227/42]
Posted by John D at 19:51, 23rd February 2026
 
SWR have issued a tender to fit USB C sockets at every seat on their class 158 and 159 trains

Don't know if that is good news or bad news
good that the trains are getting enhanced, bad because wouldn't waste money if replacements were coming in next few years (which implies these 35-37 year old trains will continue beyond 40th birthday)

1 buyer
South Western Railway
London
Description
South Western Railway Limited (SWRL) is planning to install at seat power for customers within standard and first-class accommodation within its Class 158 and 159 fleet as part of the wider ongoing project to refurbish this fleet.  The purpose of this modification is to make at seat power within first class more accessible along with the addition of USB-C charging and to introduce USB-C charging facilities for the first time to standard class and a minimum of one USB-C outlet for the non-driving side of each cab.  This is a Supply of Goods requirement. The headline requirements are as follows:  A minimum of one USB-C outlet per seat for both standard and first class;  A minimum of one USB-C outlet for the non-driving side of each cab;  The wheelchair bays shall have both USB-C and 230V outlets.  No minimum order quantity for spares.  As a business we have decided to bring the Works element of installation in house but still require the goods to be procured.

CPV Codes
30237132 - Universal Serial Bus (USB) Interfaces

https://bidstats.uk/tenders/2026/W09/865206564

Re: Coroner's safety call after runner's death at Formby crossing - 24 Aug 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372739/31665/51]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 19:23, 23rd February 2026
Already liked by ChrisB, Chris from Nailsea, Oxonhutch, PrestburyRoad, TonyN
 
Let’s take a moment to spare a thought for the driver .

Re: Things you have NOT done in your use of public transport
In "Introductions and chat" [372738/31633/1]
Posted by grahame at 19:17, 23rd February 2026
 
Never have I ever ...

Shelled prawns on a train   - 32 (9.2%)
Joined a train at Pilning station   - 28 (8.1%)
Used Tygwyn Station   - 27 (7.8%)
Called the Network Rail emergency number   - 25 (7.2%)
Eaten a curry on a train   - 25 (7.2%)
Used Melksham Station   - 23 (6.6%)
Used a train ferry   - 21 (6.1%)
Been in a train accident   - 21 (6.1%)
Missed the last train   - 16 (4.6%)
Fallen asleep on a train and missed my Station   - 16 (4.6%)
Travelled to extreme westerly/easterly/southerly/northerly station   - 11 (3.2%)
Had a train call at a request stop for me   - 10 (2.9%)
Used a ranger, rover, Interrail, Eurail or freedom ticket   - 10 (2.9%)
Left something on a train by mistake   - 10 (2.9%)
Travelled on Eurostar   - 10 (2.9%)
Travelled on a sleeper train   - 8 (2.3%)
Been confused by ticket validity   - 8 (2.3%)
Asked someone to move their luggage so you can sit down   - 7 (2%)
Used split tickets   - 7 (2%)
Used a rail replacement bus   - 6 (1.7%)
Got money back through delay/repay   - 5 (1.4%)
Walked between two stations   - 5 (1.4%)
Had a valid ticket refused by an automated gate   - 5 (1.4%)
Caught the wrong train   - 5 (1.4%)
Helped others at the station / on a train   - 3 (0.9%)

36 voters - and 2 say they have done all of these things.

So at one end of the scale, that leaves 4 people who HAVE shelled prawns on a train and at teh other end 33 out of 36 of you have helped others at the station or on a train - and I a so proud of our members for doing that.

Eight of you have joined a train at Pilning, nine of you have used Tygwyn Station, and thirteen of you out of 36 have used Melksham Station.

An astonishing 31 out of 36 have had a valid ticket refused by an automated gate - which suggests to me that there are questions about whether the gates are fit for purpose

And 29 out of the 36 have asked someone to move their luggage - which perhaps says something about the lack of thought by some passengers for others, and also shows what a forward lot we are that we are prepared to challenge.

Anything out there which members find especially notable?

Re: Wells - Bath, from April '26 timetable change (for the worse)
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [372737/31621/5]
Posted by grahame at 18:49, 23rd February 2026
 
The timetables are online now too. Not even the x39/39 is safe with pretty large cuts and gaps in frequency (including a 45 min gap between buses leaving bath before 9am which is bonkers).

Here are the changes in Monday to Friday peak hours.

Gaps from Bath
08:05 to 08:50 (was 08:09, 08:26, 08:43, 09:00)
15:34 to 16:20 (was 15:35, 15:50, 16:07, 16:24)

Gaps from Bristol
08:00 to 08:35 (was 07:54, 08:11, 08:28, 08:35)
09:26 to 10:02 (was 09:19, 09:34, 09:49, 10:04)
16:22 to 17:00 to 17:46 (was 16:15, 16:30, 16:45, 17:00, 17:17, 17:37 and 17:55)

During the day, it's no longer (was it previously?) a 15 minute turn-up-and-go service.    All services do leave Bath at :05, :20, :35, :50 BUT there are gaps with 1 - or even 2 - successive buses on the pattern missing.  I find myself wondering if the changes help First run school services more cheaply, at the expense of what used to be peak services. But were they still peak?     There is a need to modernise services to suit modern needs, but these changes seem to address modern financial targets rather than modern customers needs.

Re: Wells - Bath, from April '26 timetable change (for the worse)
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [372736/31621/5]
Posted by WelshBluebird at 17:59, 23rd February 2026
 
The timetables are online now too. Not even the x39/39 is safe with pretty large cuts and gaps in frequency (including a 45 min gap between buses leaving bath before 9am which is bonkers).

Re: TravelWatch SouthWest General Meeting, Friday 6 March 2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [372735/30742/34]
Posted by grahame at 16:45, 23rd February 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Hope to be there but cant promise as mobility still a bit impaired.
I hope that the meeting venue is on the ground floor, or is served by a lift.
TANSTAAFL.

Ground Floor - flat access, including from the station.

Re: Travel to the USA - risks of being detained, even as a tourist
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [372734/31660/52]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:45, 23rd February 2026
 
I would like to go back to the USA, but not while the current administration is in place

That's me too.....

Re: Coroner's safety call after runner's death at Formby crossing - 24 Aug 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372733/31665/51]
Posted by Electric train at 16:00, 23rd February 2026
Already liked by rogerw, grahame, Oxonhutch, eXPassenger, eightonedee, Andy E, TonyN, ChrisB, PrestburyRoad
 
If he had run in front of an HGV on a road the Corner would probably would have recorded its as a death by misadventure.

It's unlikely the person would heed signage especially if its on a regular route he ran.

My sympathies go to his family and friends and it is always a sad day when someone is killed on the railways, but there is only so much that can reasonably be done to protect people from their own negligence

Re: TravelWatch SouthWest General Meeting, Friday 6 March 2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [372732/30742/34]
Posted by broadgage at 15:59, 23rd February 2026
 
Hope to be there but cant promise as mobility still a bit impaired.
I hope that the meeting venue is on the ground floor, or is served by a lift.
TANSTAAFL.

Re: Refund Rules for walk-up tickets are changing from April 1st
In "Fare's Fair" [372731/31662/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 15:58, 23rd February 2026
 
 Suspect not - everyone would very quickly be using it....events that coud be backed up by proof in writing like an A&E visit...

Re: Travel to the USA - risks of being detained, even as a tourist
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [372730/31660/52]
Posted by Electric train at 15:54, 23rd February 2026
Already liked by eXPassenger, grahame
 
I spent 2 weeks end of Oct begin of Nov 2025 in the USA, the holiday was planned before the golf player became president. 

I had a week in NYC, took the queue was an hour to get to immigration and took less than 10 mins to be allowed in.  I took the train from Newark Liberty airport the NYC Penn Central, during my week in NYC I rode the New York subway and survived  The NYC subway is a tap a credit card type entry system no tap on exit

At the end of the first week I used Amtrack from Pen Central to Washington DC, I stayed with friend in Arlington and used the DC metro a number of time into DC central, the metro is modern, efficient and reasonably priced DC metro is a tap a credit card type entry system and a tap on exit.

I would like to go back to the USA, but not while the current administration is in place

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [372729/31371/14]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:52, 23rd February 2026
 
If the 165 is knackered, it's probably awaiting a part (to be manufactured?)

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [372728/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 14:43, 23rd February 2026
 
Becoming a regular occurrence now:

17:05 Didcot Parkway to Evesham due 18:24 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

18:51 Evesham to Oxford due 19:50 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [372727/28982/26]
Posted by a-driver at 12:45, 23rd February 2026
 
5Z13 shows 175011 allocated from Par, and RTT has reports of it from Par to (so far) St Germans. How it got to Par, and why it's not showing on Traksy, is another matter.

It has just popped up at Wivelscombe on Traksy. But how it's already got past Saltash on camera, I have no idea.

Just to tidy up, and correct my mistakes:
-  REVUpminster's webcam of 175011picture was on 5Z33, 1100 Plymouth-Par, coming off the bridge at 11:13.
- so that answers my question about how it got to Par
- it was also seen in the Saltash webcam on 5Z13 at 12:51, on the way back to Plymouth (arr. 1259).

Which leaves outstanding the question of when it first got back from its enforced holiday at Liskeard to Plymouth. If I had to guess (which I don't, obviously) I'd say it was coupled to 175007, but not mentioned in despatches.
or did come back with 175002 and not mentioned.
An interesting signal problem is how. On London Underground signalling; as the points cannot be guaranteed, because a train is occupying the approach section, to be locked they would have to be scotched and clipped and hand signalled into the platform or the trains moved towards Liskard past signal LD20, the points on the branch scotched and clipped then the normal signal interlocking can take effect and the trains moved onto the main line.

All fully signalled with shunt signals. No need for anything to be clipped and scotched.
If fully signalled with shunt signals the points would be mechanically locked and presumably electronically locked and you would not be able to change the points on the main line.
On the undergound as some who might have to do it we were taught to say scotched and clipped as the scotch goes in first in case the points move as you try to put the clip on. The trainer would also say don't put the clip on over the rail. It's been done!

I'm not quite sure I get you! 
if you go from Liskeard platform on the mainline towards the branch, you'd be signalled by a shunt signal - LD17.  Speed is 5mph.  Once the train drops in clear of LD20 on the branch, LD17 can be returned to danger and the points on the mainline can be returned to normal - mainline route.
Coming off the branch, the points will be reversed and LD20 can then be cleared in to the platform as far as LD11 which is Penzance end of the platform. 

If you were to use another unit to rescue the failed sets, you could still clear LD17 from the platform but because you will not drop in clear of LD20 you would need authorisation from the signaller to change direction and return to the platform.  The points would remain locked in position. 
The only time you wouldn't potentially need to clip and scotch the points is if the move was a passenger carrying move.

Re: Coroner's safety call after runner's death at Formby crossing - 24 Aug 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372726/31665/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:58, 23rd February 2026
 
I have no problem with 'reviewing' - that should be happening regardless of events.

What I do have - and I believe Bob may agree - is with the Coroner's 'instruction', regardless of reason & cause.

And in this case, "don't wear earbuds playing loud music whilst out running" would be an instruction to those in danger that would achieve 100% safety as to this cause of danger. All an instruction like this one to Network Rail will achieve would be the closure of that crossing, likely with no substitution as no money available.

Re: Coroner's safety call after runner's death at Formby crossing - 24 Aug 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372725/31665/51]
Posted by grahame at 09:51, 23rd February 2026
 
Not for the first time a completely unnecessary death which is entirely down to the actions of the deceased is followed by calls, and in some cases such as this instructions, to the rail industry to somehow rectify the perceived problem.

Whatever happened to common sense and personal responsibility?

Yes - BUT - things are only common sense if you think about them.  How many times have I been told something and thought "that makes sense" but I wouldn't thought of it otherwise?

There is sense in reviewing how the rail industry handles all safety issues - both before and after near misses, injuries and deaths.  Not for the rail industry to take the blame for 'actions of individuals', but never the less the industry should review and make appropriate mitigations as it continues to learn; it needs to do so as individual's habits changed over the years.

Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed
In "South Western services" [372724/25368/42]
Posted by grahame at 09:22, 23rd February 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
The return service was - err - full and standing on occasions!   After the withdrawal of the SWR service from Bristol as far as Westbury, a GWR train was put in in its place (great saving that!) with a connection at Westbury into the SWR coming up from Yeovil.  The connection hasn't always been held at Westbury ...

The substitution of a through service with one involving a change has long been deployed as a way to put the brakes on passenger flows. It always puts me in mind of the time when capacity on the trains took a sharp nosedive and it was used to reduce summer passenger numbers heading for Weymouth.

Mark

On that very narrow issue of the last train back from Bristol to Salisbury, I would no longer take the risk of catching [it/the replacement] back from Bristol or Bath to Warminster or Salisbury.    No "Plan B" available, and my understanding is that the SWR train, whilst it will wait a while at Westbury, does not do so indefinitely - "has to get back to Salisbury within train crew hours" I heard.    When it was a through train from Bristol, there was no way it could leave Westbury before it got there 

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [372723/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 09:19, 23rd February 2026
 
5Z13 shows 175011 allocated from Par, and RTT has reports of it from Par to (so far) St Germans. How it got to Par, and why it's not showing on Traksy, is another matter.

It has just popped up at Wivelscombe on Traksy. But how it's already got past Saltash on camera, I have no idea.

Just to tidy up, and correct my mistakes:
-  REVUpminster's webcam of 175011picture was on 5Z33, 1100 Plymouth-Par, coming off the bridge at 11:13.
- so that answers my question about how it got to Par
- it was also seen in the Saltash webcam on 5Z13 at 12:51, on the way back to Plymouth (arr. 1259).

Which leaves outstanding the question of when it first got back from its enforced holiday at Liskeard to Plymouth. If I had to guess (which I don't, obviously) I'd say it was coupled to 175007, but not mentioned in despatches.
or did come back with 175002 and not mentioned.
An interesting signal problem is how. On London Underground signalling; as the points cannot be guaranteed, because a train is occupying the approach section, to be locked they would have to be scotched and clipped and hand signalled into the platform or the trains moved towards Liskard past signal LD20, the points on the branch scotched and clipped then the normal signal interlocking can take effect and the trains moved onto the main line.

All fully signalled with shunt signals. No need for anything to be clipped and scotched.
If fully signalled with shunt signals the points would be mechanically locked and presumably electronically locked and you would not be able to change the points on the main line. On the undergound as some who might have to do it we were taught to say scotched and clipped as the scotch goes in first in case the points move as you try to put the clip on. The trainer would also say don't put the clip on over the rail. It's been done!

Re: Travel to the USA - risks of being detained, even as a tourist
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [372722/31660/52]
Posted by Mark A at 09:12, 23rd February 2026
 
To this we have to add other risks, some in plain sight and others rather less so, but all, often casually and without a thought, exported to the rest of the world.

Mark


Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed
In "South Western services" [372721/25368/42]
Posted by Mark A at 08:53, 23rd February 2026
 
The return service was - err - full and standing on occasions!   After the withdrawal of the SWR service from Bristol as far as Westbury, a GWR train was put in in its place (great saving that!) with a connection at Westbury into the SWR coming up from Yeovil.  The connection hasn't always been held at Westbury ...

The substitution of a through service with one involving a change has long been deployed as a way to put the brakes on passenger flows. It always puts me in mind of the time when capacity on the trains took a sharp nosedive and it was used to reduce summer passenger numbers heading for Weymouth.

Mark

Re: Coroner's safety call after runner's death at Formby crossing - 24 Aug 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372720/31665/51]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:10, 23rd February 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Western Pathfinder, rogerw, GBM, broadgage
 
Not for the first time a completely unnecessary death which is entirely down to the actions of the deceased is followed by calls, and in some cases such as this instructions, to the rail industry to somehow rectify the perceived problem.

Whatever happened to common sense and personal responsibility?

Re: Travel to the USA - risks of being detained, even as a tourist
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [372719/31660/52]
Posted by grahame at 08:01, 23rd February 2026
 
Indeed, the USA considers it's a good year when the homicide rate is under 6 per 100,000. In  Europe it averages 2.1, about 1.1 in the UK.

Don't think you are safe on the roads either.  The USA has a fatal accident rate of 14.2 per 100,000. In the UK it's 2.4.

Indeed.   I have had a gun waved at me, threatening, twice by Americans in their late teens.  And I have gone into a custody meeting with a rather older American throwing his weight around to make an impression, and clearly armed.   Each case different and not tourist situations.   I've never had such a situation in the UK.   Of course, the USA has 5 times the population of the UK so these things will happen there more often  .

Re: Travel to the USA - risks of being detained, even as a tourist
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [372718/31660/52]
Posted by eightonedee at 07:47, 23rd February 2026
 
Indeed, the USA considers it's a good year when the homicide rate is under 6 per 100,000. In  Europe it averages 2.1, about 1.1 in the UK.

Don't think you are safe on the roads either.  The USA has a fatal accident rate of 14.2 per 100,000. In the UK it's 2.4.

 
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