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| Re: Regulated rail fares frozen in England until March 2027 In "Fare's Fair" [368523/31142/4] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 17:15, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
A freeze - or at least its end - could have been an opportunity to reset the annual increase back to the slightly more logical early January rather than a completely random date in March, which was only chosen the first time as it was about the earliest the rail industry could reliable manage to change the data once the government of the time decided to end the pandemic fares freeze. After that it was impossible to move back to January as two (main) fares increases within 10 months wouldn't have been politically acceptable.
Specifically promising a freeze till March 2027 has blown that or the even better alternative of aligning with a timetable change date. Looks like we're stuck with March for the foreseeable future.
| Re: Donations sought to set up Nottingham late night Safe Bus In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368522/31147/31] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:23, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
During the day, the bus would also serve as a base for community health campaigns, student outreach, and city events.
That'll be when they use the solar panels.

| Re: Donations sought to set up Nottingham late night Safe Bus In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368521/31147/31] Posted by ChrisB at 16:12, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
"late night safe bus" and "solar panels" - hmmm.
| Donations sought to set up Nottingham late night Safe Bus In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368520/31147/31] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:07, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
From the BBC:

The bus will be fitted with a medical area, benches, charging points and solar panels
An appeal to raise £70,000 for a Safe Bus - a mobile welfare and first aid hub - has been launched in Nottingham.
It's In Nottingham, the city's business promotion group, wants to convert a donated vehicle into a fully equipped space where trained welfare officers, volunteers, and medical staff can offer first aid, support, and a safe place to rest.
It would operate in the city centre during weekends and major events, giving practical help for those who are injured, lost, or vulnerable, organisers said. As well as benefiting those enjoying a night out, it could also ease pressure on local emergency services and hospitals.
It's In Nottingham said that while the city's night time economy of bars, clubs, and restaurants brought many benefits, it created challenges for police and welfare teams.
A seven-day pilot project with St John Ambulance last Christmas supported 102 people, with 73 managed on location without needing hospital treatment. The estimated £30,000 – £50,000 in savings to the NHS could translate into £1.6 –£2.7m annually if a similar facility was made permanent, it said.
Nottingham City Transport has already donated the bus but the initiative also has the backing of Nottingham City Council, trentbarton, Nottingham Street Pastors and both the University of Nottingham and Nottingham Trent University.
During the day, the bus would also serve as a base for community health campaigns, student outreach, and city events.
The team is now asking for public and business support through a crowdfunding campaign for the refit, which includes an on-board medical area with sink, bed, and running water. It would also include solar panels and accessibility improvements, along with heating, lighting, and welfare seating.
Rich Lane, head of operations and business crime at It's In Nottingham, said: "It's quite a simple idea. It's just a normal bus. All the seats are removed. We've got a medical provision that will be in the back but then some nice long benches down the interior of the bus where you can charge your mobile phone or you can sit and just have a few moments to contemplate your thoughts.
"And it's just a safe space where we've got medical provision that's there. We've got street pastors that will be working. We'll have welfare units from universities that will be on board and assisting. Ultimately it's just somewhere that you can go and sit."
| Re: On this day: up sleeper derailment across Paddington station throat 23/11/83 In "Railway History and related topics" [368519/31144/55] Posted by bobm at 15:00, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
| Re: Regulated rail fares frozen in England until March 2027 In "Fare's Fair" [368518/31142/4] Posted by ChrisB at 14:57, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
Simon Calder, writing on the fares changes and some possible consequences in the Independent. Also, his article makes some play on Didcot - Swindon being the most expensive main line leg in the UK, not sure if that's the cost with respect to time on the train perhaps.
There's your answer, in the article
a boggling £2.20 per minute, making it the most expensive main line train trip in Britain
- basing it on pence per minute.Mick Whelan, general secretary of train drivers’ union Aslef, said: ‘We are pleased that after 14 years of the Tories pricing people off our railways, this Labour government is helping people to commute to work and travel for pleasure.”
Labour started theis abnnual RPI% raise.....and I'm betting that Mick is saying to the taxpayer that they can all pay for his members pay rise this year, rather than just the rail users....oh yes, Calder agrees....
from what is, in effect, a decision to make long-suffering taxpayers pay even more to keep the trains running – even though many of them never go near a train.
| Re: On this day: up sleeper derailment across Paddington station throat 23/11/83 In "Railway History and related topics" [368517/31144/55] Posted by ChrisB at 14:44, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
Anyone find the RAIB report on this? I can't seem to locate it.
Overspeed across points I Understand from professional twitter/X
| The dog bus whose pawsengers raise a smile in the community In "The Lighter Side" [368516/31146/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:44, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
From the BBC:

The unusual method of trans-paw-tation is named after Laura Mohan's dog Billy
You wait for one bus and then 15 dogs come along at once - if Billy's Bus drives past. According to founder Laura Mohan, the dog bus – which takes pets on day adventures in the community - is the first of its kind in the UK.
Ms Mohan had the idea when she was struggling to find care for her own pup, Billy. "We found with dog walkers one hour wasn't enough. And full-day care was too much for him," she says. "We took inspiration from an American lady called Canine Convoy and then we went to town with the idea. Everyone loves seeing dogs on a bus."
Ms Mohan, who runs the coach as part of her dog walking business, and driver Ray Welderend travel around parts of Bradford and Leeds picking up paw-sengers. The four-legged fare payers are then secured and can pay special visits before getting to walkies later on.
"We're half dog service, half community based. We do as much as we can in the community," says Ms Mohan. "We do drive-bys to old people's homes, nursing homes, schools and nurseries, everyone can come on board, say hi to the dogs, and then we just ask for a donation to a local dog charity that we're associated with called Aireworth Kennels."

The dogs are secured as they are transported
Ms Mohan says after setting up the business five weeks ago, demand had been brisk. "I thought we'd probably get 20 enrolments in a week or two, but we woke up the second day and we had 68. Now we've got just over 340 dogs enrolled so it's a second bus time," she explains.
The dogs, who spend three to four hours with Ms Mohan and the team, can even be followed on a live stream from the bus. "It's a bit like running a children's nursery – the key is lots of engagement and lots of love and that keeps everybody in a good mood," she says.
Millions of homes in the UK welcomed new pets during the coronavirus pandemic as people sought companionship. The RSPCA previously said that some dogs have had behaviour problems - particularly after being left alone for the first time when their owners returned to work.
Catherine Taylor is a support worker at Outside the Box, a community café in Ilkley that supports adults and young people with learning disabilities. She says the young people loved having the dogs to visit.
"We work with adults with learning challenges who need diversity. So we help them to complete a shift in the café, and then we run workshops. It's such a treat to have the dogs. It's tactile, it's caring. They've been so excited preparing for them, preparing all their drinks, putting signs out to make sure they have space for the bus."
Georgie Grove sends her dog Coco on the bus. "I'm working all the time. I've got a new baby and I want him to go on as many walks as possible, that's what you always want when you get a dog. So this is just perfect," she says.
Issey Giltrow says the service allows her dog Alfie to play with other dogs and get socialised. "I work from home and he's become very needy with me. We saw it when we were walking through Ilkley and we thought this would be perfect for him – get him out with other dogs," she says.
Driver Ray Welderend describes being behind the wheel of the canine coach as the perfect job. "When I saw this advertised I thought, 'I've got nothing better to do with my time' and if I'm out and about playing with dogs, and helping out with dogs, it's win-win for me," he smiles.
Before driving dogs, he was more used to transporting goods up and down the motorway in his role as an HGV driver. "This is a dream job compared to lorry driving," he says.
| North York Moors - Moorsbus success could see service return in 2026 In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368515/31145/5] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:54, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
From the BBC:

Visitors could take the M3 bus service (pictured) into the North York Moors after travelling on the M1 Moorsbus from Hull
A bus service between Hull and the North York Moors could be operated again next year after it proved to be popular during this summer, Hull City Council has said.
The M1 Moorsbus service operated between Hull, Pickering and the moors every Sunday and bank holiday Monday from May to September this year.
A total of 2,249 passengers boarded the M1 in 2025, with 1,317 of these originating from Hull and the East Riding, according to Hull City Council figures.
Councillor Mark Ieronimo, Hull City Council's portfolio holder for transport, said: "There is a customer demand for this service and we will be looking at what can be done to deliver this again next year."
The M1 service departed from Hull Paragon Interchange, picking up from Cottingham, Beverley Bus Station, Driffield and Malton Railway Station before arriving in Pickering. Passengers could then change for the M3 service, from Pickering to the North York Moors.
The council said over 3,800 people rode both the M1 service and the M3 service during this year's summer season.
The M1 service was brought back this year with funding from Hull City Council and East Riding of Yorkshire Council, through their respective bus service improvement plans, with cash allocated from the Department for Transport.
Nick Coultish, cabinet member for culture, leisure and tourism at East Riding of Yorkshire Council, said: "I'm very pleased the Moorsbus was a big hit once again with passengers from our areas, enabling them to experience the beauty spots of North Yorkshire."
| On this day: up sleeper derailment across Paddington station throat 23/11/83 In "Railway History and related topics" [368514/31144/55] Posted by Mark A at 13:46, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
TV footage from what was not a good day at Paddington, but one that could have been much worse.
Mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mOzSqqkrcM
| Re: Regulated rail fares frozen in England until March 2027 In "Fare's Fair" [368513/31142/4] Posted by Mark A at 13:28, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
Simon Calder, writing on the fares changes and some possible consequences in the Independent. Also, his article makes some play on Didcot - Swindon being the most expensive main line leg in the UK, not sure if that's the cost with respect to time on the train perhaps.
Mark
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/rail-fare-freeze-analysis-rachel-reeves-budget-train-tickets-b2870286.html
| Re: Regulated rail fares frozen in England until March 2027 In "Fare's Fair" [368512/31142/4] Posted by ellendune at 13:24, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
I'm a bit confused at to what counts as a regulated fare. Anytime return fares are to rise by, is it 4.7% - and if someone needs to travel urgently those fares can be their only option.
Regulated fares in the former Network South East area are different to the rest of the country. In the NSE area are the anytime fares regulated or the day returns or both?
In the rest of the country the saver fares are regulated.
Are season tickets regulated in both?
Please somone correct me if I am wrong.
| Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368511/27074/9] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:15, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
Fair point, ChrisB: I hadn't noticed that.

| Re: Regulated rail fares frozen in England until March 2027 In "Fare's Fair" [368510/31142/4] Posted by Mark A at 13:13, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
I'm a bit confused at to what counts as a regulated fare. Anytime return fares are to rise by, is it 4.7% - and if someone needs to travel urgently those fares can be their only option.
Mark
From the BBC:

A multi-storey car park could be built off Station Lane while Stagecoach looks to scale down its use of Paignton bus station
A town could lose its bus station but gain a new supermarket and multi-storey car park under a plan for its future.
Torbay Council's cabinet has signed off on a document outlining a "vision" for regeneration for Paignton, which will now go out for discussion with residents and developers.
"It is about promoting Paignton to the outside world," said deputy leader, councillor Chris Lewis. "It is about sharing the fact that we are serious about the regeneration of the town. Rome wasn't built in a day, and Paignton won't be changed in a day, but there are exciting regeneration projects under way."
The plan suggests a multi-storey car park could be built off Station Lane, while Stagecoach looks to scale down its use of Paignton bus station, said the Local Democracy Reporting Service (LDRS). Its new electric buses will be based in Torquay, but Paignton's routes will stay the same.
"If Stagecoach wants to move to a smaller site it's an opportunity for us to see if we can put a supermarket there with flats above it," said Lewis. Talks are also under way to improve derelict buildings in Station Square. "They have been derelict for far too long," he said. "These are exciting times for Paignton," he added.
Stagecoach confirmed that its buses would no longer be based overnight at Paignton Bus Station, with some transferring to its nearby Torquay site.
Peter Knight, managing director at Stagecoach South West, said: "This change forms part of our wider plans to develop a more sustainable, fully electric bus network for Torbay, with the Torquay depot set to become Stagecoach South West's main electric vehicle operating base from early 2026." He said there would be "no impact on local bus services, and all Paignton routes will continue to run as normal".
"Stagecoach remains committed to delivering reliable, low-emission transport for local communities and will continue working closely with Torbay Council as its regeneration plans progress," he added.
Councillor Nick Bye said the current seafront project, including new sea defences, would "transform" Paignton. "Paignton is the future," he said. "So much is going on that we can be proud of. A successful vision will be what drives its regeneration."
But, councillor Darren Cowell said: "If this is a vision, whose vision is it? The feedback I have had is that the community seems to have been forgotten. And so far delivery seems to be demolition."
Councillor Swithin Long added: "We've had lots of exciting projects mentioned, but all we've had so far is car parks being turned into car parks."
| Re: Go-ahead given for Cowley Line to reopen by 2030 In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368508/27074/9] Posted by ChrisB at 12:25, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
News today that the go-ahead has been given for reopening the Oxford - Cowley line by 2030.
Funding of £120m has been made available to reopen the line to passengers with new stations at Littlemore and Cowley.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgql954g07do
Funding of £120m has been made available to reopen the line to passengers with new stations at Littlemore and Cowley.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgql954g07do
Posted back on October 23rd?
| Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368507/27074/9] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:14, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Cowley Branch line to reopen after 60 years in £120m project

The rail line, which has been closed to the public for 60 years, will include a new station in Littlemore
An Oxford railway line closed to passengers since 1963 is being reopened.
The Cowley Branch Line is currently only used by freight going to and from the BMW Mini Plant, but new stations will be opened in Cowley and Littlemore in south-east Oxford.
The government has pledged £120m in funding, part of a £500m investment in infrastructure to link up Oxford and Cambridge and turn the region into the "European Silicon Valley".
Anneliese Dodds, MP for East Oxford, said the Cowley Branch Line was "finally going to become a reality". She said it would make a "massive difference to local residents, slashing travel times and reducing congestion".
The county's five Liberal Democrat MPs Freddie van Mierlo, Layla Moran, Charlie Maynard, Olly Glover, and Calum Miller said the "major" announcement reflected "years of campaigning, local partnership and rigorous business-case work".
The government said reopening the line would help create up to 10,000 new jobs. It will connect Littlemore, Cowley, Blackbird Leys and Greater Leys to central Oxford in under 10 minutes in a twice-hourly passenger service.
Prof Irene Tracey, vice-chancellor of Oxford University, said it would "stitch together" science parks, hospitals and new cultural spaces "so that ideas, researchers and local residents" could move more easily around Oxford and out to London Marylebone.
Oxford City Council leader Susan Brown said: "The Cowley Branch Line is the single most important piece of infrastructure for connecting local communities and businesses in south and east Oxford. It will give access to more amenities and jobs, help to cut congestion, meet our climate targets, and unlock new homes and jobs."
Liz Leffman, leader of Oxfordshire County Council, added: "We're delighted that the government has seen the obvious benefits that this project will deliver and the value for money it represents."
Rob Brighouse, chair of Oxford Strategic Rail Promoters' Group, called it a "once-in-a-generation opportunity and represents great news for those who do, and will, live and work on the route, as well as helping to ease rail capacity constraints through Oxford".
Chancellor Rachel Reeves said the government had "massive ambitions for the Oxford-Cambridge corridor".
The government said the investments would also build on its commitment to deliver East West Rail, "which will strengthen links between Oxford and Cambridge, Milton Keynes, Bedford and beyond".
The Ellison Institute of Technology (EIT), which conducts research into biology, agriculture, climate change, AI and robotics in Oxford, said it could eventually employ up to 7,000 staff, and that the Cowley Branch Line would be "crucial". EIT said it would "participate with other local stakeholders to provide supplementary funding" of £35m, and design and construct the station at Littlemore.
Sarah Haywood, managing director of Advanced Oxford, which represents science and tech businesses in the region, said it was an "exciting and important boost to the Oxford region". She said it would help to realise the "full potential" of East-West Rail "cementing the region as a world-class science super-cluster".
Yong Shen, director of the Oxford Science Park, called it a "significant, tangible step towards more sustainable transport options" to the city.
Oxford City Council said work would be carried out to identify the additional infrastructure needed to connect the stations to their local communities. This could include new bridges, pedestrian and cycle routes, and better links to the bus network, it said.

The rail line, which has been closed to the public for 60 years, will include a new station in Littlemore
An Oxford railway line closed to passengers since 1963 is being reopened.
The Cowley Branch Line is currently only used by freight going to and from the BMW Mini Plant, but new stations will be opened in Cowley and Littlemore in south-east Oxford.
The government has pledged £120m in funding, part of a £500m investment in infrastructure to link up Oxford and Cambridge and turn the region into the "European Silicon Valley".
Anneliese Dodds, MP for East Oxford, said the Cowley Branch Line was "finally going to become a reality". She said it would make a "massive difference to local residents, slashing travel times and reducing congestion".
The county's five Liberal Democrat MPs Freddie van Mierlo, Layla Moran, Charlie Maynard, Olly Glover, and Calum Miller said the "major" announcement reflected "years of campaigning, local partnership and rigorous business-case work".
The government said reopening the line would help create up to 10,000 new jobs. It will connect Littlemore, Cowley, Blackbird Leys and Greater Leys to central Oxford in under 10 minutes in a twice-hourly passenger service.
Prof Irene Tracey, vice-chancellor of Oxford University, said it would "stitch together" science parks, hospitals and new cultural spaces "so that ideas, researchers and local residents" could move more easily around Oxford and out to London Marylebone.
Oxford City Council leader Susan Brown said: "The Cowley Branch Line is the single most important piece of infrastructure for connecting local communities and businesses in south and east Oxford. It will give access to more amenities and jobs, help to cut congestion, meet our climate targets, and unlock new homes and jobs."
Liz Leffman, leader of Oxfordshire County Council, added: "We're delighted that the government has seen the obvious benefits that this project will deliver and the value for money it represents."
Rob Brighouse, chair of Oxford Strategic Rail Promoters' Group, called it a "once-in-a-generation opportunity and represents great news for those who do, and will, live and work on the route, as well as helping to ease rail capacity constraints through Oxford".
Chancellor Rachel Reeves said the government had "massive ambitions for the Oxford-Cambridge corridor".
The government said the investments would also build on its commitment to deliver East West Rail, "which will strengthen links between Oxford and Cambridge, Milton Keynes, Bedford and beyond".
The Ellison Institute of Technology (EIT), which conducts research into biology, agriculture, climate change, AI and robotics in Oxford, said it could eventually employ up to 7,000 staff, and that the Cowley Branch Line would be "crucial". EIT said it would "participate with other local stakeholders to provide supplementary funding" of £35m, and design and construct the station at Littlemore.
Sarah Haywood, managing director of Advanced Oxford, which represents science and tech businesses in the region, said it was an "exciting and important boost to the Oxford region". She said it would help to realise the "full potential" of East-West Rail "cementing the region as a world-class science super-cluster".
Yong Shen, director of the Oxford Science Park, called it a "significant, tangible step towards more sustainable transport options" to the city.
Oxford City Council said work would be carried out to identify the additional infrastructure needed to connect the stations to their local communities. This could include new bridges, pedestrian and cycle routes, and better links to the bus network, it said.
| Re: New Towns across the South West In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368506/30813/31] Posted by CyclingSid at 11:45, 23rd November 2025 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
My thought is that the stations need to be built before the bulk of the housing, unlike Reading Green Park. I believe that once people have got in the habit of driving it is not so easy to break the habit.
It will be interesting to see if the potential building round Theale and Tilehurst change when (and if) the Thames Valley combined authority comes into existence. Up till now West Berkshire and Wokingham have got away with building along the Reading border because the bulk of the electorate don't know where the boundary is. Not to mention the current ongoing argument about Reading taking over West Berkshire (or a few parishes).
Already the proposed development on University land https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgjd9q2027no appears to be going down like the proverbial bag of s....
| Re: New Towns across the South West In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368505/30813/31] Posted by Marlburian at 11:19, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
I guess that proposals for development around Micheldever, between Basingstoke and Winchester, will return - IIRC they've been rejected a couple of times.
Every time I drive past Theale I wince at the large development on its western edge, including three-storey houses. And it can only be a matter of time before the area between the eastern edge and the M4 is built on. Very close to J12, and a reasonable walk to Theale Station, (Years ago there was a plan to build a hotel there, but that's yet to happen.) And just the other side of the M4, beyond IKEA, there have been several proposals to build close to Pincents Lane, on the eastern edge of Tilehurst.
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [368504/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 10:48, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
Sunday November 23
Only running west of Oxford today - well, west of Moreton for one set:
10:00 Great Malvern to Oxford due 11:30 will be terminated at Moreton-In-Marsh.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:23/11/2025 10:09
11:50 Oxford to Great Malvern due 13:18 will be started from Moreton-In-Marsh.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:23/11/2025 10:09
14:00 Great Malvern to Oxford due 15:30 will be terminated at Moreton-In-Marsh.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:23/11/2025 10:27
15:50 Oxford to Great Malvern due 17:18 will be started from Moreton-In-Marsh.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:23/11/2025 10:27
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:23/11/2025 10:09
11:50 Oxford to Great Malvern due 13:18 will be started from Moreton-In-Marsh.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:23/11/2025 10:09
14:00 Great Malvern to Oxford due 15:30 will be terminated at Moreton-In-Marsh.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:23/11/2025 10:27
15:50 Oxford to Great Malvern due 17:18 will be started from Moreton-In-Marsh.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:23/11/2025 10:27
EDIT 14:30 -
13:50 Oxford to Hereford due 16:04 is being delayed between Oxford and Hanborough and is now expected to be 16 minutes late.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:23/11/2025 14:08
The "late-running train" may have been the previous workingThis is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:23/11/2025 14:08
1P49 12:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to Oxford (13:30) : departed +36 (no obvious reason), arrived +30.
| Re: Problems with IET trains from April 2021 In "Across the West" [368503/24934/26] Posted by Timmer at 07:55, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
I thought that an IET with only one engine was able to ascend inclines, though slowly.
After all, the electric version has only one engine, and can allegedly "limp home" on diesel power.
Regarding the ex 17.03: It did “limp home” but without any passengers. On how many engines I know not and if it even made it to Laira as RTT only shows times to Lipsom Junction. After all, the electric version has only one engine, and can allegedly "limp home" on diesel power.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:31792/2025-11-22/detailed
The 18.03 terminated at Taunton with RTT reporting thst this was due to a problem with doors. This service was restarted at Exeter through to Penzance using the train that formed the 16.35 Paddington to Paignton service which terminated at Exeter.
| Re: Problems with IET trains from April 2021 In "Across the West" [368502/24934/26] Posted by grahame at 07:52, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
I thought that an IET with only one engine was able to ascend inclines, though slowly.
After all, the electric version has only one engine, and can allegedly "limp home" on diesel power.
After all, the electric version has only one engine, and can allegedly "limp home" on diesel power.
Question comes - do you WANT it to "limp home" or cut your losses and send it to the nearest depot? We have had reports here on occasions in the past of trains / locomotives taking an age and a half getting back from where they are in a crock siding (Castle Cary, Taunton in memory) to somewhere they can be fixed, much to the disruption of other services. I suspect you would not want "Limping Lulu"s filled with irate, delayed passengers trolling along through Devon with a string of other fitter IETs and Voyagers crawling teach signal behind amid also filled with delayed passengers.
| Re: First Bus pulling out of Cornwall, 14.2.2026 In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368501/31133/5] Posted by grahame at 07:45, 23rd November 2025 Already liked by eXPassenger | ![]() |
Is this a case of the cost up against the environmental issues?
I don't know the cost,but if a single decker costs ten pound an hour to run
and if
a double decker costs twenty pounds an hour to run.
The bus company would be saving money and I presume a single decker use's less fuel and benefiting the environment,
not to mention that a single decker would be easier to negotiate the roads and streets of Cornwall.
Strange that I have not heard anything from the Independence for Cornwall brigade
I don't know the cost,but if a single decker costs ten pound an hour to run
and if
a double decker costs twenty pounds an hour to run.
The bus company would be saving money and I presume a single decker use's less fuel and benefiting the environment,
not to mention that a single decker would be easier to negotiate the roads and streets of Cornwall.
Strange that I have not heard anything from the Independence for Cornwall brigade
I remember taking a look at this a few years back. The cost of running a double decker - financially and on the environment - is not that much more than the cost of running a single decker. Purchase cost may be substantially more, though of course there's only one engine, the upstairs is lightweight.
Once a double decker is purchased to cover heavy flows on that 20% (or less) of journeys that the capacity is actually needed, it makes sense to use it for the whole duty diagram. No going back to depot to swap for another vehicle, breaking the clock face and taking time, and no need for another vehicle on the fleet with the capital and maintenance implications. But that does mean that they run around apparently inefficiently much of the time. Yes - it's inefficient but then then there is no better way to be more efficient given the awkward travel patterns of people.
| Re: First Bus pulling out of Cornwall, 14.2.2026 In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368500/31133/5] Posted by infoman at 05:13, 23rd November 2025 | ![]() |
Is this a case of the cost up against the environmental issues?
I don't know the cost,but if a single decker costs ten pound an hour to run
and if
a double decker costs twenty pounds an hour to run.
The bus company would be saving money and I presume a single decker use's less fuel and benefiting the environment,
not to mention that a single decker would be easier to negotiate the roads and streets of Cornwall.
Strange that I have not heard anything from the Independence for Cornwall brigade
| Re: Problems with IET trains from April 2021 In "Across the West" [368499/24934/26] Posted by broadgage at 23:26, 22nd November 2025 | ![]() |
I thought that an IET with only one engine was able to ascend inclines, though slowly.
After all, the electric version has only one engine, and can allegedly "limp home" on diesel power.
There will be no fares price rise early next year, with prices of regulated fares, such as season tickets and off peak returns, frozen at their current levels until March 2027.
I suspect this is one sop to the electorate ahead of the budget.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwygx71g3n7o
| Re: New Towns across the South West In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368497/30813/31] Posted by grahame at 20:24, 22nd November 2025 | ![]() |
https://www.transportxtra.com/publications/local-transport-today/news/79580/housebuilding-around-train-stations-will-be-given-default-yes--says-government
Housebuilding around train stations will be given default “yes”, says Government. Housebuilders will be encouraged to build more homes near these transport links, and councils in England will also now be required to tell the government when they intend to reject new housing developments over a certain size, with the Housing Secretary able to have the final say on whether they should go ahead
Architect Russell Curtis, writing on his Linked In page, commented: "Three years ago we determined that there was space for at least 1.2m homes within 800m of England's rural train stations. Mapping every station in the country and excluding genuine constraints (natural habitats, flood risk etc.) resulted in the identification of more than 770 stations across the nation with various housing capacities.
"The obvious place for new homes is when public transport already exists; and it's not on the periphery of towns and cities where everyone needs a car to get around."
Architect Russell Curtis, writing on his Linked In page, commented: "Three years ago we determined that there was space for at least 1.2m homes within 800m of England's rural train stations. Mapping every station in the country and excluding genuine constraints (natural habitats, flood risk etc.) resulted in the identification of more than 770 stations across the nation with various housing capacities.
"The obvious place for new homes is when public transport already exists; and it's not on the periphery of towns and cities where everyone needs a car to get around."
So "770 stations" is 1 in 3 ... and I might suggest that where a line that's not overused goes through an area suitable for housing and is close to a railway without a station, one might be built. Perhaps this also provides a lifeline for some campaigns should the wish to move forward with extra housing too - land value uplift at places like Langport and Somerton, and Devizes Gateway already on the radar and perhaps some others that may not be so visible (I mentioned a couple in an earlier post). Some such as Dovey Junction and Achnashellach are rural stations which won't be suitable, and some will raise a local Hugh and cry.
| Re: First murder on the railways - 1864 In "Railway History and related topics" [368496/31141/55] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:11, 22nd November 2025 | ![]() |
Thanks. The rather annoying thing, for me, is that years ago my wife bought me a copy of Kate Colquhoun's excellent book, 'Mr Briggs' Hat' - but today I can't find it anywhere.

| Re: First murder on the railways - 1864 In "Railway History and related topics" [368495/31141/55] Posted by Western Pathfinder at 19:57, 22nd November 2025 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() |
A raise of the hat to you Chris.
| Re: Problems with IET trains from April 2021 In "Across the West" [368494/24934/26] Posted by Timmer at 19:23, 22nd November 2025 Already liked by trainbuff | ![]() |
Not good for those travelling down to Devon and Cornwall this evening with both the 17.03 and 18.03 Paddington to Penzance terminating well short of their final destination at Exeter and Taunton respectively. ‘Train fault’ reason given, one is losing time and probably wouldn’t make it up the south Devon banks.














