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Re: Worcester Foregate Street station - services, facilities and improvements, ongoing discussion
In "London to the Cotswolds" [368431/11311/14]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:19, 20th November 2025
 
From the BBC:

Worcester railway mural project divides opinion


Tewkesbury-based artist Sarah Brown has been chosen to lead the mural project

Plans for a mural under a railway bridge in Worcester have divided opinion.

The project, which has been approved by the city council, is to be placed underneath the bridge near Foregate Street Station and will celebrate the 200th anniversary of the modern railway.

The council and Severn Arts said they hoped the project would draw attention towards the arches and the walkway that links Foregate Street to the river.

But the Conservation Advice Panel has objected to the scheme, saying recently exposed brickwork should be celebrated and potentially cleaned up.

In response, council officers said the mural would not be painted directly on to the bricks but on an aluminium panel that could be removed in the future.

The project has been described by planning officers as "a sensitive and reversible cultural intervention that celebrates Worcester's railway heritage by enhancing the public realm".

Tewkesbury-based artist Sarah Brown, who has recently created a large mural in Redditch, has been chosen for the Foregate Street project.

She will be working with residents of Platform Housing and students from Heart of Worcestershire College.

Inspiration will be taken from vintage railway posters that used to be displayed under the bridge in the 1960s.

Councillor Alan Amos said the project was "excellent" and asked for railway staff to be included in consultations.


Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368430/30953/26]
Posted by grahame at 19:26, 20th November 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, matth1j
 
... if any member wants the removal of something they posted, but which they are unable to edit for whatever reason, I can help. CfN.

Reports requesting help made by anyone - by forum members or by members of the public are acted on quickly; the official way is by email to the address on the bottom of every page, but personal messages work well too provided that the admin you chose is around.

As an example, we had a public request to remove a post a week ago, and it was gone from public view (quarantined) within 60 minutes of the request being sent as the request triaged as being reasonable.  The moderator and admin team looking further into the request and in that case confirming the action as being appropriate.

Re: Advertising of misleading minimum pricing which is scarcely available
In "Fare's Fair" [368429/31116/4]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:03, 20th November 2025
 
Here's another Ryanair one. 

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2025
In "TransWilts line" [368428/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 18:51, 20th November 2025
 
Increasingly as we move to "One Railway" and to avoid finger pointing, they are just identified as "trains" rather than freight or passenger.

The failure being a freight train - presumably on the line northwards from Trowbridge - explains multiple cancellations at that time - I had wondered at the apparent co-incidence of 2 trains failing at the same time.  In some ways it's good that the finger pointing / buck passing is to be avoided but in other ways in unlinks immediate local / company responsibility.  But hang on - are freight train operations being nationalised or not??

Re: Holding GWR to account - service reliability
In "TransWilts line" [368427/31113/18]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 18:41, 20th November 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
‘Cancelled’ covers part cancellations as well AFAIK, so a Cardiff to Portsmouth train that terminates at Fratton will be classed as cancelled…even though it may have ran on time for the vast majority of the trip.

For clarification, I am not for one minute suggesting performance is anywhere remotely close to being acceptable.

Re: Eurostar - merged posts, ongoing discussion topic
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [368426/26929/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:34, 20th November 2025
 
From the BBC:

Channel Tunnel says UK investment 'non-viable' as it halts projects



Eurotunnel, the operator of the Channel Tunnel, has halted its UK projects, claiming "unsustainable" levels of taxation has made any future investments "non-viable".

The company said it had been informed its business rates would increase by some 200% from next year.

It hit out at the government, arguing that the higher costs were "clearly contrary" to ambitions of growing the economy and increasing investment.

The Treasury said it would support firms "hit hardest" by tax hikes and would continue talks with affected industries over such concerns.

The outburst from Eurotunnel comes days ahead of next week's Autumn Budget, where Chancellor Rachel Reeves will set out the government's tax and spending plans.

The potential 200% increase in business rates for Eurotunnel is a result of new calculations by the Valuation Office Agency (VOA), which provides the government with valuations and property advice used in setting taxation and benefits.

A spokesperson for Eurotunnel said such a hike in business rates, along with other taxes, could put its total tax level at about 75% on UK earnings.

The VOA told the BBC the body "does not determine business rates" and that "next year's liability has not yet been confirmed".

"This unparalleled and unsustainable level of taxation makes any future investment in the UK non-viable," the Channel Tunnel said. "It is therefore impossible to develop new services, create jobs, and pursue what is needed for the long-term development of our activities." The company claimed it had "no other choice but to freeze our future investments in railway assets in the UK, starting in 2026".

The BBC has asked Eurotunnel what investments it has frozen. The Financial Times reported that its chief executive, Yann Leriche, told the newspaper it had scrapped plans to reopen a freight terminal in Barking and to run a new direct freight service from Lille.

The Channel Tunnel is an undersea tunnel linking southern England and northern France. Nicknamed "Chunnel", it comprises three tunnels, two rail tunnels used for freight and passenger trains, and a service tunnel. The link between Folkestone and Calais is operated by Eurotunnel.

Separate company Eurostar, Eurotunnel's biggest customer, operates passenger services through the tunnel between London and a number of other European cities on the continent, including Paris, Brussels and Amsterdam.

A VOA spokesperson told the BBC it had engaged with Eurotunnel and their advisers "on multiple occasions over the past eighteen months to discuss their valuation and fully explain our approach. These discussions remain ongoing, and we are committed to continuing constructive engagement." The spokesperson added Eurotunnel could formally challenge the valuation.

Ahead of the Budget, the Eurotunnel called on the government to "provide certainty on business rates". The firm has not been alone in issuing warnings to the chancellor, with supermarket bosses claiming part of the government's business rates reforms posed a problem for its industry.

Business rates are a tax on non-domestic properties such as shops, pubs and offices.

It is expected that Reeves will confirm the rates businesses will have to pay at in the Budget, along with further details, which will come into force in April 2026.

The Treasury said in response to Eurotunnel's comments that it did not comment on "speculation around future changes to tax policy". It said once it understood the "complete" revaluation picture, it would be in a position to "make final decisions" on support.


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2025
In "TransWilts line" [368425/29726/18]
Posted by bobm at 18:08, 20th November 2025
 
Increasingly as we move to "One Railway" and to avoid finger pointing, they are just identified as "trains" rather than freight or passenger.

Re: Tilehurst station - facilities, incidents and improvements
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368424/1198/9]
Posted by Marlburian at 17:52, 20th November 2025
 
A friend and I were at Tilehurst Station this afternoon for her to catch a train to Paddington. She noticed that the temporary fencing had been removed and took me around the "tower", for us to discover that the lifts were in use.  She insisted that we try them out. Impressive inside and to use,  though we both wondered when would be the first case of anti-social use.

Re: Tarka Line - Exeter to Barnstaple: merged topics - services, facilities, incidents and events - ongoing discussion
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [368423/15711/24]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:45, 20th November 2025
 
From the BBC:

Petition launched after flooded rail line issues



A petition has been launched after commuters faced more than a week of train cancellations due to flooding.

North Devon MP, Ian Roome, who launched the petition, said ongoing problems on the Tarka Line, in Devon, were "totally unacceptable" and residents had been left with "a second class service".

Earlier in November, rail passengers and campaigners called for change on the line due to delays, cancellations, flooding, and overcrowding.

Full service on the line - which stretches from Barnstaple to Exeter - has since resumed and Network Rail said it closed the flooded line "for the safety of customers".

During the closure limited replacement buses and taxis were put on, with journey times often taking longer, the Local Democracy Reporting Service said. People who regularly use the service, which has about 800,000 passenger journeys a year, said they frequently experienced delays or cancellations on the line and were calling for it to be made more resilient.

Roome said: "I am pushing for structural improvements, additional train carriages to deal with persistent overcrowding, additional drainage work, longer platforms at some stations en route, and more passing places along the single track line so the train timetable can be improved. This is one of the most successful train lines in the country in terms of passenger numbers and we will be lobbying the rail minister to put it at the top of his agenda. It's time to future proof the Tarka Line."

Great Western Railway said it was aware some trains immediately before and after the start of the college day were in demand, and with non-Exeter College travellers using the route it was over capacity on some services during peak times. It said it was looking at providing more trains and carriages with selective door opening to cater for shorter platforms and was supportive of the campaigns to upgrade the infrastructure.

On Tuesday, Network Rail said: "Water levels have receded below the closure mark on all three bridges along the Barnstaple line, which allowed specialist divers to carry out an inspection of each structure earlier today." It said divers found no damage to any of the bridges and had to run an inspection train along the entire length of the line before it could be reopened to passenger trains.


Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368422/31117/51]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 17:33, 20th November 2025
 
Yep - and statistically, the 4 new stations may be closer to where they start or finish their journey than the current five for many of them - so gainers & losers.....

The four 'new' stations are at or near the existing locations of Woburn Sands, Ridgmont, Lidlington and Stewartby stations.

They might be more convenient for people who live in these places.

They certainly won’t be more convenient for people living nearer to Fenny Stratford, Bow Brickhill, Aspley Guise, Millbrook or Kempston Hardwick.

Out of interest, does anyone have a view on whether these stations would have survived had the Varsity Line not been closed?

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [368421/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 17:32, 20th November 2025
 
...and an unusual one:
16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore and Evesham.
It has been delayed at Great Malvern and is now 17 minutes late.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:20/11/2025 16:59
Departed +19, passed Evesham +10, has a 16-minute stand at Moreton - arrive +10, depart on time.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368420/30953/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:25, 20th November 2025
 
A weather update, from the BBC:

Ice warnings spread across parts of UK gripped by cold snap

Icy conditions will sweep into more parts of the UK overnight, after snow and ice forced hundreds of schools to shut and closed roads in the worst-hit areas.

The Met Office has issued yellow warnings for ice in north-east Scotland, western Wales, south-west England, and along England's east coast, East Lothian and the Scottish Borders into Friday. Snow and ice warnings are already in place in some areas.

The North York Moors and parts of the Yorkshire Wolds are under an amber warning for snow and could see between 15-25 cm (6-10ins).

Thursday is expected to see the week's coldest night, with temperatures widely falling below zero and down to -12C in rural Scotland.

The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) has issued cold-health alerts for England until Saturday, saying there could be significant impacts to the elderly and people with health conditions.

Snow blanketed locations across the country on Thursday, with Altnaharra in northern Scotland and Loch Glascarnoch in west Scotland recording 9 cm as of 11:00 GMT.



The snow and ice yellow warnings currently in place are:

Carmarthenshire, Ceredigion, Pembrokeshire and Swansea until 23:59

North-east England, south-west Scotland and Yorkshire & Humber until 23:59

Central and northern Scotland until 21:00

In these regions, expect 2 to 5cm of snow, even for low-lying areas, with perhaps as much as 10 to 20cm of snow for the highest ground in northern Scotland.

The yellow ice warnings due to come into force later on Thursday are:

South-west England from 18:00 to 11:00 on Friday

Eastern and south-east England from 18:00 Thursday until 11:00 Friday

North-east Scotland from 21:00 to 11:00 on Friday

North-east England, south-west Scotland and Yorkshire & Humber from 00:00 until 12:00 Friday

Western Wales from 00:00 to 11:00 on Friday

An amber warning for snow is in place until 21:00 Thursday and covers parts of north-east England and Yorkshire and the Humber.

(BBC article continues)


Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368419/30953/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:19, 20th November 2025
 
That's not what I meant, ChrisB.

I meant that, if any member wants the removal of something they posted, but which they are unable to edit for whatever reason, I can help. CfN.

Re: Tiverton parkway parking
In "London to the West" [368418/31122/12]
Posted by red cuillen at 17:10, 20th November 2025
 
That's very interesting and sounds like the cause! Impressive then how many people use the service from Barny then. The Sampford Perverell road was full, we made sure we didn't block a driveway or park on double yellows, unlike those cars on the approach road! Thanks

Re: Holding GWR to account - service reliability
In "TransWilts line" [368417/31113/18]
Posted by John D at 16:20, 20th November 2025
 
Relevant to this is GWR have recently updated their 4 weekly performance

EF10 area Bristol suburban is 4.05% cancelled
EF13 South Wales - South Coast is 7.18% cancelled

On time and time +3 minutes
EF10 53.34% and 71.50%
EF13 52.65% and 69.75%

So currently can expect about half trains to be late, and about 30% not to be within 3 minutes.  And about 1 in 14 to 1 in 25 to not run.

https://www.gwr.com/-/media/gwr-sc-website/files/about-gwr/what-you-can-expect/our-performance/GWR-Periodic-Web-Report-P2608.pdf

Doesn't really feel good enough to me, don't know what others think.

Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368416/31117/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:17, 20th November 2025
 
Yep - and statistically, the 4 new stations may be closer to where they start or finish their journey than the current five for many of them - so gainers & losers.....

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368415/30953/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:09, 20th November 2025
 
So - edit it first to say simply "deleted", then contact CfN to get it hidden.

Re: Weather updates, from across our area - ongoing discussion, 2025
In "Across the West" [368414/30953/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:05, 20th November 2025
Already liked by matth1j
 
[how do you delete a post, or can't you?]

You can't - but you can edit it to say "deleted" for a considerable time after you have posted it, and the moderators / admins will tidy up in due course.   
 

If you ever have an urgent need for a post to be removed (for whatever reason) matth1j, just send me a PM and I'll deal with it. It won't be deleted altogether, but it will be moved out of public view immediately. CfN.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [368412/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 14:57, 20th November 2025
 
11:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:44 will be terminated at Great Malvern.
It has been delayed between Evesham and Pershore and is now 23 minutes late.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:20/11/2025 14:09
Stock +14 from depot, departed +18, lost time AUW-EVE (35 instead of 30). Evesham +27, arrived Shrub Hill +28.

15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Great Malvern.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:20/11/2025 14:09

Next to Safety, Punctual Running of Trains is Most Important
In "Across the West" [368411/31126/26]
Posted by grahame at 14:52, 20th November 2025
 
"Next to Safety, Punctual Running of Trains is Most Important"
From over 100 years ago.  Do you agree in today's world


Re: Tarka Line - Exeter to Barnstaple: merged topics - services, facilities, incidents and events - ongoing discussion
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [368410/15711/24]
Posted by The Tall Controller at 14:09, 20th November 2025
 
How great an effect on capacity would be achieved by creating a double track section for Okehampton and Barnstaple services between Yeoford and Crediton, and restoring the junction for Okehampton and Barnstaple lines at Coleford? This would of course mean bringing the second platform at Yeoford back into service as well, so wouldn't come cheap.


   

None at all really. The only benefit would be for punctuality, giving extra time for late-running trains to be passed.

To increase capacity on the Barnstaple line, you'll need another passing loop between Eggesford and Barnstaple in addition to this one. And that's before we look at the additional congestion this would cause in the Exeter St Davids area.

Re: Tiverton parkway parking
In "London to the West" [368409/31122/12]
Posted by The Tall Controller at 13:54, 20th November 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
The car parks are regularly full Tuesdays to Thursdays and if anything goes awry with the railway further west, many passengers will drive to Tiverton Parkway - adding to the already full car parks.

What used to be a clear road between the A361 and Sampford Peverell a couple of years ago has turned into a free car park for those unwilling/unable to pay to park at the station.

Naturally, the residents of Sampford Peverell aren't happy seeing their village turn into a car park for Tiverton Parkway.

Re: Dilton Marsh - request stop and status
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [368408/31124/20]
Posted by grahame at 13:43, 20th November 2025
Already liked by matth1j
 
Slightly OT - do the schedules that include Dilton Marsh assume that the train will stop ie. there will be a bit of hanging around at the next stop if it doesn't?

There never seems to be a problem with lack of time - I think the assumption is that they will stop.  They have to slow down anyway.  Until a few years ago, we were given to understand that the 08:05 Westbury (a Portsmouth train) could not stop at Dilton Marsh because of delays it would cause, but the engineering changes team put in a stop there for three weeks and it worked perfectly. We logged that and persuaded GWR to make the stop permanent in the next timetable; it has now been adjusted by a couple of minutes so that might be to allow for the stop, which always happens during term time as it's a signifiant school train.

On trains into Westbury .. they often hang around between Dilton Marsh and Westbury to await a platform anyway ;-)

Re: Travelling to see an old train - why not travel there on a current train?
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [368407/31125/47]
Posted by Mark A at 13:29, 20th November 2025
 
Competition between Birmingham and Exeter so that there's a fares setter alternative to Crosscountry?

Mark

Travelling to see an old train - why not travel there on a current train?
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [368406/31125/47]
Posted by grahame at 13:15, 20th November 2025
 
From a public enthusiast's group

Hi, I understand that the hst will no longer be in service very soon. My 10yr old son is desperate to see it before this happens, I was wondering where I could take him? I live in the West Midlands so does this mean a long car journey? Many thanks

What can we do to help people who write like this think of the rail (or load long distance coach) alternative to get to a rail attraction?



Edit note: Typo corrected, for clarity. CfN.

Re: Holding GWR to account - service reliability
In "TransWilts line" [368405/31113/18]
Posted by grahame at 12:50, 20th November 2025
 
As part of a local rail user group committee update this morning, I wrote concerning Monday's meeting:

GWR were made aware:
* That Melksham is a substantial town in which the train service is a key factor - even more so into the future
* Melksham station is a grotty place to be left with minimal and uncertain information and with no staff present
* Melksham passenger groups (WWRUG, MTUG) align with parish and county medium and long terms plans
* We have eyes on the ground, experise, an ability to reach people and want to work in partnership for common good
* Rail replacement services as currently implemented / informed are often not customer friendly and are misleading
* We consider a train declared “will be cancelled” but in the end runs has lost most of its use and also bought disrepute on the service
They were also reminded that two thirds of passengers at Melksham are though - so this is far from a “just Melksham” issue

Re: Fuel for rail: taxation: electricity versus diesel
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368404/31123/51]
Posted by stuving at 12:31, 20th November 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Yes and no.  I see that Witham Bobby has just answered, but here's a more rail-specific version.

Electricity supplied to the railway is standard rated (unlike domestic supply, which bears 5%). The diesel bought by the railway is "rebated red diesel", meaning there is a 5% concessionary rate of VAT on it.

However, passenger travel is zero rated, and domestic goods transport standard rated, so the majority of the VAT paid on supplies is reclaimed. The VAT on that element in revenue is substituted by the rate of zero or 20% applied to that product. There are, as is normal practice, a few odd exceptions to this charged at the other rate. There may well be a few items of railway revenue that are VAT exempt - which means the difference in VAT rate paid on supplies is retained as is, just for that element.

Re: Dilton Marsh - request stop and status
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [368403/31124/20]
Posted by matth1j at 12:30, 20th November 2025
 
Slightly OT - do the schedules that include Dilton Marsh assume that the train will stop ie. there will be a bit of hanging around at the next stop if it doesn't?

Re: Fuel for rail: taxation: electricity versus diesel
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368402/31123/51]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 12:26, 20th November 2025
 
Thinking VAT here. Is it really the case that electricity used to power trains is rated at 20% vs diesel at 5%? (cf aviation fuel a... but let's not go there...)

Mark

Businesses exceeding the annual turnover threshold (currently £90,000, but likely to be reduced so that very small businesses get caught) are able to reclaim the VAT that they pay on their inputs.  For most businesses, this is a set-off against the VAT that they must charge customers and hand over to the Revenue.  But where businesses don't charge VAT on what they sell (such as train fares) the VAT is repaid to the business by HMRC

VAT is a neutral to most businesses (apart from the hassle of being an unpaid tax collector, and keeping up with the admin).  It's a tax on all of us as consumers.  The admin is a disproportionately large burden on small enterprises, which is why, up until now, there has been a turnover exemption for the smallest ones

 
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