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Great Western Coffee Shop
5.7.2025 (Saturday) 19:21 - All running AOK
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Re: Felletin - last throws? ... lessons??
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [362964/30436/52]
Posted by Mark A at 18:40, 5th July 2025
 
A detail from that article, the train that overnights at the terminus with the crew having a permanently-booked room at the nearby hotel.

Mark

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362963/18719/26]
Posted by a-driver at 17:42, 5th July 2025
 
Aren't Saturdays part of the working week? Presumably staff are rostered for these services? Is there just a general shortage of staff or is it a workforce management issue?

There’s not a shortage of staff, there’s a shortage of fully trained staff; then there’s the potential to have staff off sick, failed medicals, maternity leave etc etc or off trains for operating incidents. This is factored in but this case fluctuate.

Have there been a lot of retirements or other departures?

I don’t know. If you’re ex-BR staff I know you don’t have to give much notice should you wish to retire, a matter of weeks. 

Surely we can't have a situation developing where the whole weekend is characterised by mass cancellations due to staff absence?

I think this has been mentioned before, block week leave is all rostered in, the occasional day leave can be requested but will only a certain number will be authorised depending on the depot size. Some depots may only authorise two drivers daily leave. 

I'm sure everyone likes having Saturdays and Sundays off but there is a service to be provided?

Agreed, tell that to the DfT! 

Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes
In "The Lighter Side" [362962/30435/30]
Posted by eightonedee at 17:39, 5th July 2025
Already liked by grahame
 
Please Grahame, this is the GWR Coffee Shop!

It has to be a (proper) Castle class,  not a Schools class!

Re: Felletin - last throws? ... lessons??
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [362961/30436/52]
Posted by grahame at 17:29, 5th July 2025
Already liked by Mark A, eightonedee
 
Some more pictures - this time from Limoges to Felletin for the more rail folks




























Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes
In "The Lighter Side" [362960/30435/30]
Posted by grahame at 16:07, 5th July 2025
 
I'd suggest Puffing Billy, the oldest surviving steam locomotive as a possibile contender.  It has a certain Heath Robinson/steampunk visual appeal to it.

* An early locomotion - or Puffing Billy or rocket

* The peak of steam locomotive design - how about a 4-4-0 Schools class

* An HST Power car - has to be!

* Peak of electric locomotive design - what is the peak there?

Felletin - last throws? ... lessons??
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [362959/30436/52]
Posted by grahame at 15:36, 5th July 2025
 
https://railwayworld.net/2025/03/28/death-of-a-french-branch-line/

Having a morning to walk around charming Felletin, I paid a visit to the tourist office and was shocked to discover that the lady there could not tell me anything about train times and seemed to have no knowledge of the impending closure. Similarly at the station itself, now restored as a community cafe, there was no indication whatever that the end was nigh for rail services to the town.

Picking up on Gareth David's article ... I took the opportunity to visit Felletin today while there's still a chance - I have written at https://grahamellis.uk/blog1647.html





Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362958/18719/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 15:23, 5th July 2025
 
We used to run a 24x7 business, with the most work of the week in the hotel  being on Sundays. Our team comprised people with various preferences but everyone knew when they joined that it was every day. 

Everyone knew when they joined the railway Sunday’s was outside the working wek, that’s the contract.

Just reporting experience and saying that not everyone wants a day off each weekend

True. But current service disruption would indicate people like having their Saturdays and Sundays off

Aren't Saturdays part of the working week? Presumably staff are rostered for these services? Is there just a general shortage of staff or is it a workforce management issue?

Have there been a lot of retirements or other departures?

Surely we can't have a situation developing where the whole weekend is characterised by mass cancellations due to staff absence?

I'm sure everyone likes having Saturdays and Sundays off but there is a service to be provided?

Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes
In "The Lighter Side" [362957/30435/30]
Posted by johnneyw at 15:08, 5th July 2025
 
I'd suggest Puffing Billy, the oldest surviving steam locomotive as a possibile contender.  It has a certain Heath Robinson/steampunk visual appeal to it.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362956/18719/26]
Posted by grahame at 14:30, 5th July 2025
 
We used to run a 24x7 business, with the most work of the week in the hotel  being on Sundays. Our team comprised people with various preferences but everyone knew when they joined that it was every day. 

Everyone knew when they joined the railway Sunday’s was outside the working wek, that’s the contract.

Just reporting experience and saying that not everyone wants a day off each weekend

True. But current service disruption would indicate people like having their Saturdays and Sundays off

Indeed - we had the huge benefit of people knowing before they joined us what the job entailed.  Well actually not - it turned out to be a longer are far more permanent job than we planned.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362955/18719/26]
Posted by a-driver at 13:54, 5th July 2025
 
We used to run a 24x7 business, with the most work of the week in the hotel  being on Sundays. Our team comprised people with various preferences but everyone knew when they joined that it was every day. 

Everyone knew when they joined the railway Sunday’s was outside the working wek, that’s the contract.

Just reporting experience and saying that not everyone wants a day off each weekend

True. But current service disruption would indicate people like having their Saturdays and Sundays off

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362954/18719/26]
Posted by a-driver at 13:47, 5th July 2025
 
The additional drivers required to bring Sunday into the working week should benefit Saturday’s as well.

Surely the opposite? 

In order to maintain a work life balance (should a deal be proposed and accepted) you’re going to want a guaranteed Saturday or a Sunday off per week. 

You were telling us the deal is dead in the water?

Wait and see! 

Are you being offered a Vote? 

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362953/18719/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:44, 5th July 2025
 
We used to run a 24x7 business, with the most work of the week in the hotel department being on Sundays. Our team comprised people with various preferences but everyone knew when they joined that it was every day.  We only had a few days that we were staffed by people who would wanted that particular day off, and we never turned customers who had already booked with us away because we didn't have the staff to provide service for them.  Just reporting experience and saying that not everyone wants a day off each weekend.

P.S. - Did I ever mention in another job ... 8 days on, 6 days off, 10 hours per working day.  Friday was the busiest day of the week, and the double staffing on that day was a huge help and an excellent way to pass over continuing work issues.

It's fortunate that some people understand the concept of a "7 day operation".

Re: Locomtives on Bank Notes
In "The Lighter Side" [362952/30435/30]
Posted by RichardB at 13:18, 5th July 2025
Already liked by johnneyw
 
Apparently, the Bank of England is asking for ideas for a theme for new banknotes and one suggestion is locomotives. Which four would you choose for the £5, £10 £20 and £50 notes and why?



How about Locomotion, Rocket (two firsts), Mallard and an HST power car (two record breakers)?

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362951/18719/26]
Posted by grahame at 12:47, 5th July 2025
Already liked by TaplowGreen
 
We used to run a 24x7 business, with the most work of the week in the hotel department being on Sundays. Our team comprised people with various preferences but everyone knew when they joined that it was every day.  We only had a few days that we were staffed by people who would wanted that particular day off, and we never turned customers who had already booked with us away because we didn't have the staff to provide service for them.  Just reporting experience and saying that not everyone wants a day off each weekend.

P.S. - Did I ever mention in another job ... 8 days on, 6 days off, 10 hours per working day.  Friday was the busiest day of the week, and the double staffing on that day was a huge help and an excellent way to pass over continuing work issues.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362950/18719/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:26, 5th July 2025
 
In order to maintain a work life balance ... you’re going to want a guaranteed Saturday or a Sunday off per week. 

Posting personally, I disagree.

Before my retirement, I worked as a driver (grocery delivery vans, not trains) for ten years. It suited me to work every Saturday and Sunday - in return for a guaranteed Monday and Thursday off. My employer was delighted with that arrangement, as they were struggling to recruit drivers for either day of the weekend.

CfN.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362949/18719/26]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:58, 5th July 2025
 
The additional drivers required to bring Sunday into the working week should benefit Saturday’s as well.

Surely the opposite? 

In order to maintain a work life balance (should a deal be proposed and accepted) you’re going to want a guaranteed Saturday or a Sunday off per week. 

You were telling us the deal is dead in the water?

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362948/18719/26]
Posted by a-driver at 11:54, 5th July 2025
 
The additional drivers required to bring Sunday into the working week should benefit Saturday’s as well.

Surely the opposite? 

In order to maintain a work life balance (should a deal be proposed and accepted) you’re going to want a guaranteed Saturday or a Sunday off per week. 

Locomtives on Bank Notes
In "The Lighter Side" [362947/30435/30]
Posted by Andy at 09:13, 5th July 2025
 
Apparently, the Bank of England is asking for ideas for a theme for new banknotes and one suggestion is locomotives. Which four would you choose for the £5, £10 £20 and £50 notes and why?


Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362946/18719/26]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 07:43, 5th July 2025
Already liked by Timmer, Oxonhutch
 
The additional drivers required to bring Sunday into the working week should benefit Saturday’s as well.

Re: "Off on my travels again"
In "The Lighter Side" [362945/30432/30]
Posted by grahame at 06:29, 5th July 2025
 
This morning ... bright and early, a coffee and a croissant.   And a day to come that perhaps should not be in "the lighter side".  I am taking a ride out to Felletin ... just two trains a day and scheduled to close at the end of next month due to the condition of the infrastructure and very low passenger numbers.


Re: [OTD] On this day 5 July 1937 Furze Platt Halt opened
In "Railway History and related topics" [362944/28876/55]
Posted by Electric train at 06:16, 5th July 2025
 
Furze Platt another year older today.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [362943/18719/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:01, 5th July 2025
Already liked by grahame
 
In other news, an agreement for solving the Sunday situation has been reached between the Unions and GWR, unfortunately the DfT have reportedly rejected the proposal. 

A joint communication from the Unions/GWR on 2nd July rather contradicts that:

“Further progress has been made at this week's 7-day railway talks. By early August, we aim to be in a position to approach the DfT seeking authorisation to proceed with the consultation phase. If received, we will arrange depot visits to listen to drivers' views about the package that is being developed.”

Looking at today's map and the lengthy list of full/part cancellations due to staff shortage, they might want to include Saturdays in the discussion.....

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [362942/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 04:07, 5th July 2025
 
08:44 Swindon to Weymouth due 11:08
05/07/25 08:44 Swindon to Weymouth due 11:08 will be terminated at Westbury.
It will no longer call at Frome, Bruton, Castle Cary, Yeovil Pen Mill, Maiden Newton, Dorchester West and Weymouth.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:01
13:13 Swindon to Westbury due 13:55
14:19 Westbury to Swindon due 15:01
15:14 Swindon to Westbury due 15:58
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:05
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:18
18:35 Westbury to Swindon due 19:17
19:44 Swindon to Westbury due 20:29

05/07/25 19:44 Swindon to Westbury due 20:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Re: Great Storm, 1703 - worse than today, or an event we need to plan for again
In "Looking forward - the next 5, 10 and 20 years" [362941/28177/40]
Posted by broadgage at 00:04, 5th July 2025
 
Small portable generators are now available cheaply.
Unfortunately, basic knowledge on how to use them safely is very lacking.

Instances that I have seen include.
1) Connecting a generator to the fixed installation via a suicide lead.
2) fueling a petrol generator whilst running.
3) Use of a petrol generator indoors.
 
And of course a general inability to understand watts, amps, and other electrical terms. And women in particular consider that electricity used in a babies room does not count towards a limited total.
ME------- you have only about 4KW in total available. Therefore you can use only ONE HEAVY LOADING APPLIANCE AT A TIME. Supplied a list of heavy loading loading appliances
WOMAN---HELP, generator not working.
ME----It has tripped out due to overload, what was in use at the time ?
WOMAN--Only the lights that you said were ok, and a small kettle.
ME- what about that fan heater ?
WOMAN-- but that is for my babies.
Sorry if this be considered sexist, but it is based on long experience.

.


Re: Vivarail chosen for fast charging trial on the Greenford branch
In "Across the West" [362939/26034/26]
Posted by TonyK at 23:29, 4th July 2025
 
I read the whole of the white paper. Even allowing for GWR's pride in this being their baby, it's impressive, and suggests that the results of the trial exceeded expectations by a margin. Any misgivings I had about the concept are now gone, and I look forward to the next step. I doubt that will be soon because the report acknowledges the need for replacements for diesel stock nearing the end and the difficulties that would be faced in retrofitting diesel trains anyway. This technology would really be best used in retrofitted EMUs and entirely new units. The charging infrastructure sounds astonishingly easy to install, a fit for any station really. I like the exploration of fringe benefits too, which make sense.

Time to start negotiations with the unions, and for DfT to draw up specifications for new kit. The former will be busy with the slow but steady march towards nationalisation, looking for problems that didn't exist when they were calling for that. So it will take time, but doesn't everything?

Re: Vivarail chosen for fast charging trial on the Greenford branch
In "Across the West" [362938/26034/26]
Posted by didcotdean at 21:32, 4th July 2025
 
The class 230 appears in the 2023 GWR Facilities Guide, on page 36 including a seating plan - the year it was expected to enter service. The fleet: one unit. Looks like it may well join the 769, also in that Guide, which didn't enter proper service.

Re: Weymouth - Westbury cancellations, 14 and 15 June 2025
In "Heart of Wessex" [362937/30356/19]
Posted by John D at 21:26, 4th July 2025
 
Period 02 performance has now been published by GWR
covers 27 April - 24 May (so includes dates of this thread)

Its South Coast (sub route 13) cancellations were hefty 7.31%

Punctuality wasn't great either, just 62.27% on time, and a lowly 96.25% within 15 minutes of time (or 3.75% more than 15 mins late)

https://www.gwr.com/-/media/gwr-sc-website/files/about-gwr/what-you-can-expect/our-performance/GWR-Periodic-Web-Report-P2602.pdf


Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [362936/29711/14]
Posted by ray951 at 20:38, 4th July 2025
Already liked by charles_uk
 
Some problems yesterday including:

1523 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street cancelled between Oxford and Worcester Foregate Street due to disorder (VA)
1552 London Paddington to Great Malvern cancelled between Worcester Shrub Hill and Great Malvern due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI) (departed Oxford 59 late, arrived WOS 69 late)
1658 London Paddington to Great Malvern cancelled between Worcester Foregate Street and Great Malvern due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI) (departed Oxford 19 late, held at Wolvercote Junction and arrived at WOF 69 late)

See https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=30434.0;topicseen for details of the disorder.

Re: Vivarail chosen for fast charging trial on the Greenford branch
In "Across the West" [362935/26034/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:52, 4th July 2025
 
Cost? Bought before nationalisation & now DfT win’t offer a contract for them? Maybe they want them for their open-access offerings?

 
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