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Churnet Valley Railway - heritage line, Kingsley & Froghall to Ipstones, Staffs
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [374495/31939/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:22, 26th April 2026
 
From the BBC:

Heritage railway train derails as services halted


The derailment is the first such incident in Churnet Valley Railway's 30-year history, the operator said - Image © Churnet Valley Railway

A train has derailed on a heritage railway forcing a halt to services, its operator has confirmed.

The locomotive and coach, which was not carrying passengers, came off the tracks on the Churnet Valley Railway shortly after departing Cheddleton, Staffordshire, on Saturday.

In a statement posted on Facebook, Churnet Valley Railway Plc (CVR) said the train consisted of "empty coaching stock" and no injuries had been reported after the incident, at about 09:40 BST.

The Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) confirmed to the BBC it had been notified of the derailment.

CVR said it was the first time this had happened, and it was working closely with the relevant authorities, while operations to remove and re-rail the locomotive and coach were under way. "The railway has proudly operated heritage steam and diesel services since 1996 and this is the first incident of this nature in our history," it said on Facebook.

"We are committed to understanding exactly what has occurred and will continue to support all investigative efforts." It said the locomotive involved was new to the fleet but had undergone "extensive testing" prior to entering service. "It would be inappropriate to speculate on the cause at this stage," CVR added.

Trains were suspended throughout Saturday and remained so on Sunday, with normal service expected to resume on Wednesday. CVR apologised to anyone affected by the derailment and confirmed Foxfield Railway would offer free travel for those who have Sunday tickets.

"A decision on RAIB's course of action will be taken in the coming days," an RAIB spokesperson said.


Re: BITE card - discount card for use at railway station outlets, discontinued 29 Jan 2026
In "Across the West" [374494/10682/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:04, 26th April 2026
 
Yes: in our 'plastic recycling' bag.  Mind you, with North Somerset Council contractors, it's debatable whether some of that actually gets to where it should.


Re: Spa Valley Railway - Royal Tunbridge Wells to High Rocks, Groombridge, and Eridge
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [374493/30355/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:32, 26th April 2026
 
From the BBC:

Heritage Spa Valley Railway reopens after new bridge installation


The Broom Lane bridge has been replaced, the Spa Valley Railway says - Image © Spa Valley Railway

A Kent heritage railway has confirmed it is reopening following the installation of a new bridge, which cost £500,000.

The Spa Valley Railway in Tunbridge Wells replaced the Broom Lane bridge, between High Rocks and Groombridge, East Sussex, after it had become corroded. It said the upgrade ensures trains can continue to travel safely between Tunbridge Wells and Eridge.

Jonnie Pay, general manager, said they were "excited" to resume full operations after only being able to offer a limited service between Tunbridge Wells West and High Rocks stations while the new bridge was installed.

"We want to thank our supporters and volunteers," he said. "Without them, we would not have been able to complete this project which was vital to ensure the railway can stay open for all to enjoy into the future."

Pay says the Spa Valley has two years to pay the remainder of the money owed for the project. "We hope people who visit can help us raise the additional money required or donate on our fundraising page," he added.


Re: BITE card - discount card for use at railway station outlets, discontinued 29 Jan 2026
In "Across the West" [374492/10682/26]
Posted by bobm at 17:37, 26th April 2026
 
As I couldn't even remember the last time I had used it, I chucked it.

In an environmentally friendly way I hope!   

Re: BITE card - discount card for use at railway station outlets, discontinued 29 Jan 2026
In "Across the West" [374491/10682/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:35, 26th April 2026
 
The scheme was discontinued on 29 January 2026. New cards haven't been available for years, but existing ones seem to have continued working (in some outlets) until then.

I found my card at the back of my desk, when we were downsizing house a couple of years ago.  As I couldn't even remember the last time I had used it, I chucked it.

Lines I Travelled on but are no longer avaiable (GB Version)
In "Railway History and related topics" [374490/31938/55]
Posted by grahame at 17:33, 26th April 2026
 
I was able to tick off many closing lines in 1966, including the North Cornwall ...

I was fortunate to travel on all (open) sections of the S & D in the early/mid 1960's. ....

Following in from the thread on "three railways I wish I had experienced", I've written myself a similar list - but this time not trimmed - of those I did use before their demise as part of the national network

Firsby to Lincoln
Shanklin to Ventnor
Taunton to Minehead
Haltwhistle to Alston
Wareham to Swanage
Alton to Winchester
Uckfield to Lewes
Tunbridge Wells Central to Eridge
Paignton to Kingswear
Blackfriars to Holborn Viaduct
Broad Street to Dalston Junction
New Holland [Town] to New Holland Pier
Craigendoran Pier to main line
Balloch Central to Balloch Pier
Paisley Canal to Kilmacolm
Glasgow High Street to Bridgeton Central
Spalding to Boston
March to Spalding
Aberystwyth to Devils Bridge
Selby (direct) to York
Bedford St Johns (Old station)
Darnall to Penistone
Sandhills to Liverpool Exchange

Some are very vague memories - but some are strong even if a long time ago ...

MOVED: Bite Cards
In "London to Reading" [374489/31937/7]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:08, 26th April 2026
 
Several posts from this topic have been moved to Across the West and merged with a specific existing topic there.

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=10682.msg374479#msg374479

Re: BITE card - discount card for use at railway station outlets, discontinued 29 Jan 2026
In "Across the West" [374488/10682/26]
Posted by bobm at 16:02, 26th April 2026
 
I read somewhere the scheme officially ended this January.

Re: Bath Spa to Bradford and back
In "Introductions and chat" [374487/31934/1]
Posted by Mark A at 15:11, 26th April 2026
 
Thinking again of that Blackpool - York train that provided the Bradford to Leeds leg, here's a good write-up from the disused stations site of the Copy Pit line it uses and which almost closed. The write-up also notes that the likes of Skipton to Bradford Forster Square and Leeds were slated to become freight-only, with Skipton's passenger service provided via Colne. (The latter closed completely while Skipton's line to Leeds and Bradford is electric). In 1972, enormous Forster Square's station services were infrequent and it wasn't straightforward to access trains north over the Settle and Carlisle, the ticketing was peculiar - BR were experimenting with discounted travel for students, with each ticket needing to be exchanged for a chit detached from a little pad of them. Early DMUs everwhere, which were fragrant, purposeful but ponderous.

The threat of further decline hung over everything - but the tide was turning, not least when the campaign succeeded to restart passenger services at Baildon Station which had been closed for many years. Amazingly, the station's site was never cleared and since 1973 it's been back to life, and on a line that's now electrified.

Railway development planning is a funny thing. Also, on a smaller scale, comparing West Yorkshire to the Bristol area, is part of it that Bristol's not gained a metropolitan transport organisation to pull things together?

Mark


http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/features/copy_pit_route/index.shtml


https://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/BRB_NetworkForDevelopment1967.pdf

Re: Line description - Reading to Westbury
In "London to Kennet Valley" [374486/31929/8]
Posted by grahame at 14:55, 26th April 2026
 
I'm not clear from this how far west electrification extends.  Passenger service 1 implies all the way to Taunton, but I didn't think it had got that far.  A note about signalling and control would also be useful.

I will add "to Newbury" back in the original post - as that's as far as electrification has got.    There is much more to add too - this was/is the first chapter of a series of chapters (posts for a new master thread) going on to look at the stations, flows served, service interactions, potentials and challenges

Re: Lines I wish I had experienced
In "Railway History and related topics" [374485/31931/55]
Posted by WSW Frome at 14:44, 26th April 2026
 
Taunton to Barnstaple is my big regret in this part of the world.

I was able to tick off many closing lines in 1966, including the North Cornwall routes to Bude and Padstow. Taunton to Barnstaple somehow passed me by. This is possibly because this route and the North Cornwall lines were omitted from WR timetable in that summer since they were supposed to be already closed.

I was fortunate to travel on all (open) sections of the S & D in the early/mid 1960's. My only trip on the northern section was on the penultimate Saturday afternoon tackled via a tortuous trip from Weymouth via the Yeovil(s) and Templecombe. On the final Saturday, a similar trip over the southern section and I have some photos (not great) to prove it!   
 

Re: Line description - Reading to Westbury
In "London to Kennet Valley" [374484/31929/8]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 14:37, 26th April 2026
 
I'm not clear from this how far west electrification extends.  Passenger service 1 implies all the way to Taunton, but I didn't think it had got that far.  A note about signalling and control would also be useful.

Re: A.I. vs single interest communities
In "News, Help and Assistance" [374483/30401/29]
Posted by bradshaw at 14:20, 26th April 2026
 
Ventnor Station in the 1960s while on a Southern Rail Rover, covered the line to Ventnor and to Cowes that day

Re: BITE card - discount card for use at railway station outlets, discontinued 29 Jan 2026
In "Across the West" [374482/10682/26]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:39, 26th April 2026
 
The Bite card used to give me a feeling of loyalty.
I've got this card in my wallet. Does it still work?

Chuck it.....

Re: Bath Spa to Bradford and back
In "Introductions and chat" [374481/31934/1]
Posted by Mark A at 12:38, 26th April 2026
 
Thanks for this. I'd read GWR's disruption pdf for the week at some stage but hadn't absorbed what Bristol's train service would be.

At the other end, the departure from Bradford was disrupted too - Forster Square to Shipley bustituted, so, an opportunity to walk across to Bradford's second station. On the way, a view of the plinth that supported Exchange station (a well-known fragment of lettering still clings on to a lintel there, photo below).

On the positive side the replacement is integrated with the city's bus station. Yesterday's train services there were complicated by engineering works somewhere, and also a broken down train was disrupting services from Manchester, which was probably awkward for people coming to Bradford for a significant football match.

In the event, the service that *was* running to time was the flow from Blackpool to York, which runs via Accrington and clear of the broken down train, 3 carriages cheerfully and cooperatively full and standing, which isn't too shabby given that its route was pretty much out of use (but fortunately not lifted or singled) for twenty years or so before becoming a core part of transpennine services. We joined it and emitting copious diesel noises, up it climbed the sinuous steep curves to Pudsey and, rather quieter, down it sailed to Leeds, ran through the station, and stopped at the extreme west end (footbridge and concourse are at the east). Off the train, a hike to the concourse and a bite to eat before heading through the barrier with 15 minutes contingency which as it happens we needed.

The Bristol train was displayed as on platform 12a, but the first member of staff I asked didn't know which end of the station that was. (It turned out to be the east end of the station...) Once waiting on 12A, two DMUs arrived, occupied the platforms there and stood roaring loudly at each hand, while 'Do not move' flags were attached to their cabs. No chance of hearing announcements but on walking back to check, sure enough the 5 car Crosscountry train, concealed around the curve to the west end of platform 12 (with carriage 'A' at the far end of that train). Another walk/gallop and we caught it with a minute to spare, looking forward to something to drink once we were aboard (you can guess what happened then...)

Mark


Re: Shops closing at Reading Station - Spring 2026
In "London to Reading" [374480/31932/7]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:57, 26th April 2026
 
For several years there were two Boots stores on Reading station.  Now there are none.  Presumably down to extortionate rental prices from Network Rail as the Boots on the transfer deck was always busy?  The chocolate shop less so!

Re: BITE card - discount card for use at railway station outlets, discontinued 29 Jan 2026
In "Across the West" [374479/10682/26]
Posted by Fourbee at 11:26, 26th April 2026
 
The Bite card used to give me a feeling of loyalty.
I've got this card in my wallet. Does it still work?

The last time I used it was at Euston to make a bacon roll slightly less extortionate and no more edible, but that was ages ago.

The % discount was watered down over time IIRC.

Re: Bath Spa to Bradford and back
In "Introductions and chat" [374478/31934/1]
Posted by bobm at 10:55, 26th April 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
On Saturday the line was closed between Bath Spa and Chippenham.   Trains ran from London Paddington to Chippenham and back.   Bath Spa was also served from Paddington via Swindon, Bristol Parkway and Bristol Temple Meads before reversing for the last leg.  Today the closure extends to include Chippenham and the single line to Melksham.

Re: Shops closing at Reading Station - Spring 2026
In "London to Reading" [374477/31932/7]
Posted by bobm at 10:49, 26th April 2026
 
Perhaps my use of them is summed up by a word you used in your first line - convenience.

I often visit them towards the end of my journey to pick something to take home and so save a special diversion on the way home.

Re: Shops closing at Reading Station - Spring 2026
In "London to Reading" [374476/31932/7]
Posted by grahame at 10:37, 26th April 2026
 
Perhaps it's just me ... but my use of UK station buffets and and convenience stores has plummeted over the years.  I feel they have gone upmarket, and additionally a second layer to that their price differential to other places offering a similar product is great - a yawning gap.   The Bite card used to give me a feeling of loyalty.

I will still be pushed over the threshold to actually buy at some - but I still have to bite (my tongue) at one that's not too far from home when changing trains.  "Would you like a small or large coffee" and my answer, if I'm being honest, you be "I would like a large one, but you only sell small and medium [which you describe as large...]".

Taking a flask "with", find an outlet off station premises, risking a trolley that visits before we're too close to destination ... not brilliant alternatives, but the way I do it.

Perhaps other travellers share my logic for being far less of a buffet / station outlet customer than in the past?

Bath Spa to Bradford and back
In "Introductions and chat" [374475/31934/1]
Posted by Mark A at 09:35, 26th April 2026
 
A return trip to Bradford - courtesy of advance standard Crosscountry class tickets upgraded to first for the wriggle room that offers during a three and a half hour leg of the journey.

On the return journey, we were very glad to leave the five carriage Crosscountry service at Bristol because there was a heavy passenger flow in full flight there, the crosscountry train did the usual Bristol thing of running clean through the station to the country end (its apparently done to manage congestion on the platform but created quite a bit of its own - many of said heavy passenger flow pursued  the train and a lot started boarding at Coach 'A' oblivious to the four people who were getting off, with the train manager heroically trying to sort things. After ten minutes or so everyone did get aboard though but I hate to think what it was like on the train.

After which, the last part of the journey to Bath took an hour, with a train cancellation, unexplained engineering works that weren't being well represented on realtimetrains, which was simply getting things wrong, or by staff at the station - the entire network apart from Leeds and Bradford feeling understaffed, probably because they were lost in the crowds - and a platform change from 11 to 0 and back to 11 which, with luggage, was 'Unhelpful'. We finally flew through the barriers at Bath as the crush before the barriers had built up enough that staff there opened them to clear things a bit.

I'm presuming that Bathampton Junction was closed in one direction for engineering works and wouldn't be surprised if some at Bristol heading for Bath, boarded the IEPs heading for Paddington via Parkway and ended up travelling back via Swindon.

Mark

Re: Southern / Govia Thameslink Railways - ongoing disputes
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [374474/16956/51]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 09:19, 26th April 2026
Already liked by grahame
 
I have made my strong feelings known on this sorry subject before. 

Re: Line description - Reading to Westbury
In "London to Kennet Valley" [374473/31929/8]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:14, 26th April 2026
Already liked by eightonedee
 
4. An express service every hour from Paddington, calling at Reading (some only to pick up passengers), then headed our West, next stop Taunton or occasionally even futher.

"some only to pick up passengers" is a joke really, and may as well be dropped! Yes, I know that Reading does not appear on the departure boards at Paddington on the far west services on a Friday afternoon, but all of the regular commuters know that the train stops there! I've boarded the 1703 Penzance service on a Friday and it was packed to Reading, but suprisingly empty after Reading!

What GWR should do, on a once-only basis, is let the train run non-stop through Reading station and stop it at Reading West, with an army of RPI waiting on the platform. Of course, pax waiting at Reading will have been pre-warned to make their way to Reading West!

Why not focus on improving services rather than punishing customers?

Re: A.I. vs single interest communities
In "News, Help and Assistance" [374472/30401/29]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 09:04, 26th April 2026
 
If that was Ventnor station, down by the beach, it might have survived through to today.

Re: Brighton Belle - merged topics
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [374471/20826/47]
Posted by grahame at 08:35, 26th April 2026
 
I am seeing pictures of ex Brighton Belle power car "Celia" on the read of a London to Gillingham excursion - with various comments about it being less than authentic/original in parts.

Adding two and two - this looks like a spare power car [body] that's been converted into a "glorified observation car", and is separate from the [4/5]BEL project to get an up and running electic pullman set out on 3rd rail lines.   Have I added 2 and 2 correctly to get 4, or is there a different situation here?

Re: Lines I wish I had experienced
In "Railway History and related topics" [374470/31931/55]
Posted by rogerpatenall at 08:27, 26th April 2026
Already liked by PhilWakely, Western Pathfinder
 
Happy memories there, Phil.

I went to prep school at Stoodleigh, near Tiverton. Always went back to school by car, but rail home. Usually Tiverton to ESD, then Taunton to Castle Cary, on a couple of occasions via and changing at Yeovil Pen Mill. And on a couple of occasions when there was extensive flooding at Stoke Cannon, then Tiverton, Dulverton to Taunton and Cary. Hey ho.

Re: Atmospheric Railways
In "Railway History and related topics" [374469/25489/55]
Posted by grahame at 08:01, 26th April 2026
Already liked by PhilWakely, Oxonhutch
 
I've ridden on the Ffestiniog. That's a pretty atmospheric railway journey.

As far as I can tell ... the following motive powers have been used on the Ffestiniog:
Battery Electric
Cable
Diesel
Gravity
Horse
Human
Steam from coal (and from oil, I think)
Wind
... but no atmospheric.  Wonder about petrol, methane, ...


Here's another - Hamster Power


Re: Line description - Reading to Westbury
In "London to Kennet Valley" [374468/31929/8]
Posted by PhilWakely at 07:48, 26th April 2026
 
4. An express service every hour from Paddington, calling at Reading (some only to pick up passengers), then headed our West, next stop Taunton or occasionally even futher.

"some only to pick up passengers" is a joke really, and may as well be dropped! Yes, I know that Reading does not appear on the departure boards at Paddington on the far west services on a Friday afternoon, but all of the regular commuters know that the train stops there! I've boarded the 1703 Penzance service on a Friday and it was packed to Reading, but suprisingly empty after Reading!

What GWR should do, on a once-only basis, is let the train run non-stop through Reading station and stop it at Reading West, with an army of RPI waiting on the platform. Of course, pax waiting at Reading will have been pre-warned to make their way to Reading West!

Re: Line description - Reading to Westbury
In "London to Kennet Valley" [374467/31929/8]
Posted by grahame at 07:36, 26th April 2026
 
Does 4 also include the Pullman service?

Yes - there's Pullman catering available on the 13:03 and 19:04 from Paddington to Plymouth, and the 13:15 and 18:16 back from Plymouth

Re: A.I. vs single interest communities
In "News, Help and Assistance" [374466/30401/29]
Posted by grahame at 07:28, 26th April 2026
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 
Here's a picture. It's AI. From here on Facebook, and the commentary with it.

I am posting this against my better nature, but I really want you all to see what we - who try and record Island railway history accurately - are up against in this AI age.

This total fabrication has appeared on a non local to the Island railway group, with a lengthy caption extolling the virtues of Ventnor Station. In other words, the poster totally believes it to be Ventnor. In future people will see this and also believe it to be Ventnor.


I note a follow up:

You are of course 100% right. All the 2000 plus Rail Thing and associated groups have a no AI policy but of course it’s hard to stop them all.

How do we stand on the Coffee Shop?  We have already somewhat discussed this - over 100 messages on the Coffee Shop match " AI " - some of them in our none-public areas.  But worth a re-iteration:

If something is very clearly marked, even for the "scan reader" then AI images are allowed.  A small footnote on the base of a long piece of text saying "images are illustrative to show what we are describing" is NOT, to me, "very clearly marked".


 
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