26.3.2025 some services back 13:30, most of rest 18:00
27.3.2025 07:00 - All running AOK this morning
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Re: GWR Rewards fares - launching March 2025 In "Fare's Fair" [359894/29851/4] Posted by GBM at 06:28, 28th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
How does this fit with the 'End of franchises' thing. SWR have just launched their version, yes?
Mark
As I said above! https://swr-rewards.com/Mark
new plans for North of England rail system In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [359893/30073/51] Posted by infoman at 06:10, 28th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think they could start by having ticket gates at
Preston Doncaster Chesterfield Barnsley Meadowhall and Sheffield
https://newshubgroup.co.uk/news/uk/2bn-boost-to-transform-northern-englands-broken-transport-system
did any one attend the Metro west event in Chippenham In "Diary - what's happening when?" [359892/30072/34] Posted by infoman at 05:48, 28th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
on Friday afternoon,wanted to attend but only found out on the day it was happening.
If you did attend could you post the list of speakers who actually attended and who they represented.
Thanking you in advance.
Re: Paddington bear stolen from Newbury in Berkshire, now recovered - March 2025 In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [359891/29972/31] Posted by infoman at 05:35, 28th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Strange how time plays tricks with your memory,
I do recall it was Canadians although I didn't say on my original posting I was trying to be P.C.
Although i thought it was wrapped around in a flimsy plastic container
Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [359888/27074/9] Posted by Mark A at 21:23, 27th March 2025 Already liked by IndustryInsider | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: GWR Rewards fares - launching March 2025 In "Fare's Fair" [359887/29851/4] Posted by Mark A at 21:19, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
How does this fit with the 'End of franchises' thing. SWR have just launched their version, yes?
Mark
Re: GWR Rewards fares - launching March 2025 In "Fare's Fair" [359886/29851/4] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:34, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
... but that's how we do things, here on the railways, in the UK.

Re: did any one attend the modern railways fourth friday club? In "Diary - what's happening when?" [359885/30068/34] Posted by ChrisB at 20:16, 27th March 2025 Already liked by froome | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Fourth Friday on a ..... Wednesday?



Re: GWR Rewards fares - launching March 2025 In "Fare's Fair" [359884/29851/4] Posted by didcotdean at 20:07, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Well I seem to remember a statement that they would come up eventually with something new after the old "Forward" loyalty scheme was closed.
Taken a bloody long time though ...
Re: Where was Red Squirrel 25/3/2025 In "The Lighter Side" [359883/30064/30] Posted by chuffed at 20:06, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Or Nailsea and Blackwell as a certain Michael Portaloo kept calling it throughout the programme in the first series of Great British Railways journeys some 20 years or so ago...
Had he bought his Bradshaws guide at a certain well known bookseller in Oxford ??
Re: Where was Red Squirrel 25/3/2025 In "The Lighter Side" [359882/30064/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:38, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
They are at Nailsea & Backwell - I stand admonished (and ankle deep in rust).

Re: Where was Red Squirrel 25/3/2025 In "The Lighter Side" [359880/30064/30] Posted by johnneyw at 19:28, 27th March 2025 Already liked by Western Pathfinder | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Not sure where the steps are but they look like the next substantial storm could cause them ten grands worth of improvements.
Re: GWR Rewards fares - launching March 2025 In "Fare's Fair" [359879/29851/4] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:28, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Now done, with thanks, ChrisB.

Re: GWR Rewards fares - launching March 2025 In "Fare's Fair" [359878/29851/4] Posted by ChrisB at 19:18, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Time to move this thread out of the rumour mill?
Re: GWR Rewards fares - launching March 2025 In "Fare's Fair" [359877/29851/4] Posted by Mark A at 17:34, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It'd be good to bring GWR season ticket holders on board.
Mark
Re: GWR Rewards fares - launching March 2025 In "Fare's Fair" [359876/29851/4] Posted by RailCornwall at 16:28, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Invitiation just received, application simple and completed. Membership also confirmed more or less instantly.
Re: Monmouthshire and Brecon Canal - water shortage, March 2025 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [359875/30071/51] Posted by Mark A at 15:55, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Does this have the makings of being an artificially created and thoroughly nineteenth century crisis? It's as if some organisation's identified an income stream up for grabs.
Water levels on the Usk at Brecon for the year to March '25 to be found on the link below. The levels will be slightly representative of the flow and it would be useful to know the extent to which the canal's put a dent in *that*. Even though leisure use of canals results in the demands on their water supply peaking during the dry months, I'd not expect the locks of the Mon and Brec to be exactly thrashed whether in summer or any other season.
Mark
https://rivers-and-seas.naturalresources.wales/Station/4286?parameterType=1
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [359874/29711/14] Posted by charles_uk at 15:40, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A few from yesterday:
1P16 0753 Oxford to London Paddington - This service was cancelled between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford due to an issue with the train crew (TG).
1P38 1632 Great Malvern to London Paddington - was diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill & Didcot Parkway missing out the north Cotswolds.
1W03 1734 London Paddington to Ledbury - This service was cancelled between Ledbury and Hereford due to a person hit by a train (XC).
Re: "Long Products"... Steel Rail. In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [359873/30070/51] Posted by broadgage at 15:28, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I would support subsidising iron and steel manufacture, as such industries are of strategic importance. We need steel not just for railways but also shipbuilding and construction.
In wartime we need steel to manufacture weapons. Even in peacetime some steel is needed to repair, replace and update weapons and military equipment.
We should not be reliant on potential enemies, or even on uncertain allies for basic strategic materials.
Re: Extreme Day Trips In "Buses and other ways to travel" [359872/30054/5] Posted by PhilWakely at 15:01, 27th March 2025 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Back in the late 1980's, [I forget the company's name] operated day trips from Exeter Airport - .....
These are not exactly new...about 30 years ago when easyjet and Ryanair were not around,Transun,an Oxford company ran 'Just for the day!' trips......
Thank you, that's the name I was looking for!
Re: "Long Products"... Steel Rail. In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [359871/30070/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:38, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Thousands of jobs at risk as British Steel threatens closure

British Steel is launching a consultation that could see the closure of its two blast furnaces at Scunthorpe, putting up to 2,700 jobs at risk out of a workforce of 3,500.
The company said the blast furnaces were "no longer financially sustainable" due to tough market conditions, the imposition of tariffs and higher environmental costs.
The BBC understands British Steel was expecting a £1bn injection of government money to keep the business going, but was offered £500m.
The Prime Minister's official spokesperson said the government had made a "generous offer" to British Steel and it would continue to work with the company and its Chinese owner Jingye to secure its future.
The director general of trade group UK Steel, Gareth Stace, said British Steel's announcement was a "pivotal moment" for the sector and the steel industry was "officially in a crisis".
Community union general secretary Roy Rickhuss called it "a dark day" and urged Jingye and the UK Government "to resume negotiations before it is too late". He warned: "We are now on the cusp of becoming the only G7 country without domestic primary steelmaking capacity, it is no exaggeration to say that our national security is gravely threatened."
The GMB union called it "devastating news for the people of Scunthorpe", while Unite general secretary Sharon Graham said the potential job losses were "a disgrace" and called for the government to work with it on a "sustainable way forward". "British Steel is guilty of trying to hold the government to ransom, while using its dedicated workforce as pawns," she said.
British Steel has been owned by Jingye since 2020. The Chinese firm says it has invested more than £1.2bn into British Steel to maintain operations and claims it suffered financial losses of around £700,000 a day. British Steel chief executive Zengwei An said the consultations on the closure were "a necessary decision given the hugely challenging circumstances the business faces".
The company has put forward a £2bn business plan, which was set out on Wednesday by the company's chief commercial officer Allan Bell speaking to the Business & Trade Select Committee. ''We have concluded that the only viable option for British Steel moving forward to decarbonise is to move to 100% electric arc furnace steelmaking," he said. "This is a £2bn project we estimate so it is not a project that the private sector is going to be able to implement without government support.''
The BBC understands that there was an expectation the government would meet this investment on a 50/50 basis. But what the government offered was £500m. This offer was rejected by British Steel during the past week.
The BBC understands that at a meeting on Thursday morning between British Steel and the GMB and Community trade unions this £1bn figure was discussed. The government has a £2.5bn steel fund.
British Steel said it would "continue to work with the UK government to explore options for the future of the business".
The company is starting a formal consultation with its workforce and unions over three options:
* The closure of the blast furnaces, steelmaking operations and Scunthorpe Rod Mill by early June 2025
* The closure of the blast furnaces and steelmaking operations in September 2025
* The closure of the blast furnaces and steelmaking operations at a future point beyond September 2025.
Business and Trade Secretary Jonathan Reynolds said: "I know this will be a deeply worrying time for staff and, while this is British Steel's decision, we will continue working tirelessly to reach an agreement with the company's owners to secure its future and protect taxpayers' money. We've been clear there's a bright future for steelmaking in the UK. We've committed up to £2.5bn to rebuild the sector and will soon publish a Plan for Steel setting out how we can achieve a sustainable future for the workforce, industry and local communities."

British Steel is launching a consultation that could see the closure of its two blast furnaces at Scunthorpe, putting up to 2,700 jobs at risk out of a workforce of 3,500.
The company said the blast furnaces were "no longer financially sustainable" due to tough market conditions, the imposition of tariffs and higher environmental costs.
The BBC understands British Steel was expecting a £1bn injection of government money to keep the business going, but was offered £500m.
The Prime Minister's official spokesperson said the government had made a "generous offer" to British Steel and it would continue to work with the company and its Chinese owner Jingye to secure its future.
The director general of trade group UK Steel, Gareth Stace, said British Steel's announcement was a "pivotal moment" for the sector and the steel industry was "officially in a crisis".
Community union general secretary Roy Rickhuss called it "a dark day" and urged Jingye and the UK Government "to resume negotiations before it is too late". He warned: "We are now on the cusp of becoming the only G7 country without domestic primary steelmaking capacity, it is no exaggeration to say that our national security is gravely threatened."
The GMB union called it "devastating news for the people of Scunthorpe", while Unite general secretary Sharon Graham said the potential job losses were "a disgrace" and called for the government to work with it on a "sustainable way forward". "British Steel is guilty of trying to hold the government to ransom, while using its dedicated workforce as pawns," she said.
British Steel has been owned by Jingye since 2020. The Chinese firm says it has invested more than £1.2bn into British Steel to maintain operations and claims it suffered financial losses of around £700,000 a day. British Steel chief executive Zengwei An said the consultations on the closure were "a necessary decision given the hugely challenging circumstances the business faces".
The company has put forward a £2bn business plan, which was set out on Wednesday by the company's chief commercial officer Allan Bell speaking to the Business & Trade Select Committee. ''We have concluded that the only viable option for British Steel moving forward to decarbonise is to move to 100% electric arc furnace steelmaking," he said. "This is a £2bn project we estimate so it is not a project that the private sector is going to be able to implement without government support.''
The BBC understands that there was an expectation the government would meet this investment on a 50/50 basis. But what the government offered was £500m. This offer was rejected by British Steel during the past week.
The BBC understands that at a meeting on Thursday morning between British Steel and the GMB and Community trade unions this £1bn figure was discussed. The government has a £2.5bn steel fund.
British Steel said it would "continue to work with the UK government to explore options for the future of the business".
The company is starting a formal consultation with its workforce and unions over three options:
* The closure of the blast furnaces, steelmaking operations and Scunthorpe Rod Mill by early June 2025
* The closure of the blast furnaces and steelmaking operations in September 2025
* The closure of the blast furnaces and steelmaking operations at a future point beyond September 2025.
Business and Trade Secretary Jonathan Reynolds said: "I know this will be a deeply worrying time for staff and, while this is British Steel's decision, we will continue working tirelessly to reach an agreement with the company's owners to secure its future and protect taxpayers' money. We've been clear there's a bright future for steelmaking in the UK. We've committed up to £2.5bn to rebuild the sector and will soon publish a Plan for Steel setting out how we can achieve a sustainable future for the workforce, industry and local communities."
Re: "Long Products"... Steel Rail. In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [359870/30070/51] Posted by Electric train at 14:31, 27th March 2025 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Wondering how much of the rail used for railway lines is currently imported. Also thinking of the forces disrupting international trade and also UK energy prices - and wondering how much of the remaining UK steel industry needs to close before 100% of what's needed for the rail system is imported.
Mark
Mark
Network Rail is concerned about it UK supply base for rail products, around 200,000 tonnes (4,000km) per year and ensures it has contracts with British Steel but as its a global market British Steel is vulnerable and 200,000 is a splash in steel production
Other than the usual high blown, vague rhetoric however I'm still waiting for someone to explain how all this is going to create a better service for the customer, although if it cuts down on the amount the taxpayer is having to hand over to the railways every year (which I am sure is one of the main drivers), I guess that's one benefit.
The Government rational at the time of privatisation was the vertically integrated management structure of British Rail was inefficient, unable to adapt to change and what the railways needed was for the homogenous BR to be broken up into over 100 separate companies, they would all be competing with each other which would drive down costs and drive up efficacy they by lower fares.

What in reality happened most of us in the industry got increase in pay because the 100 companies were competing for the limited skilled and experienced resource, over bloated executive and senior management came about to manage the competitive market of schedule 8 payments which in reality are wooden dollars but they need to £120k plus salaried executives plus their teams to manage it.
A more vertically integrated structure on the railways should lead to a more efficient and lower cost railway, as an example currently if I want to talk to a TOC Engineer regarding a traction power issue it has to to via layers of commercial manages me and my fellow Engineer cannot agree anything until it has been checked commercially and signed of by a Director of some sort ................... this just did not happen in BR days.
The railways competition is air and road and not rail verse rail. Is private sector involvement in the railways a good thing yes in the right places.
Monmouthshire and Brecon Canal - water shortage, March 2025 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [359868/30071/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:23, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Fears 19th Century canal could start to run dry in days

There are fears one of Wales' most popular canals could start to dry up within a week, prompting calls for the Welsh government to intervene.
Operators of the 225-year-old Monmouthshire and Brecon Canal have warned of an "urgent" water shortage without the prospect of imminent rainfall. It comes amid debate over how the historic attraction should secure its water supply in future after limits were placed on taking water from the environmentally sensitive River Usk.
The Welsh government said any arrangement between the Canal & River Trust and Welsh Water would be a commercial decision in which it should play no role.
The 35-mile (56 km) waterway weaves its way through the Bannau Brycheiniog National Park - formerly known as the Brecon Beacons National Park - and the Blaenavon industrial landscape World Heritage Site, attracting an estimated 3 million visitors a year for boating, walking and cycling.
"Everything the canal supports is at threat - we risk losing the jewel in the crown of south Wales," said Tracey Leake-Jones, who runs the Bridge 46 to Five Locks canal group. Made up of volunteers, the group runs events along the canal and has fundraised to install planters, benches and signs. The prospect of it having to close due to water shortages was "utterly devastating", she said. "There has to be a solution found, and my view is that the Welsh government and its leaders are the only people who can bring all the main players together."
She pointed to new housing estates being built along the canal with the waterway used as a marketing tool, and said the local council hoped to be able to open up further stretches down to Cwmbran, describing the economic benefits as "unimaginable". "Should we have problems with water supply then what's going to happen to those plans for restoration that we've all been working on for the past three years?"
News broke of the difficulties facing the canal in a letter sent to local businesses by Glandŵr Cymru, external, the Canal and River Trust in Wales, in February. It explained the canal, which once transported iron and coal to Newport docks, had relied on funnelling water from the River Usk and its tributaries which accounted for 80-90% of its water supply.
Recent changes in legislation, designed in part to protect rivers in the face of climate change, means licences are now required, restricting the amount of water that can be taken. Last year, Glandŵr Cymru lost an appeal against some of the conditions stipulated by environmental regulator Natural Resources Wales (NRW).
The River Usk is a designated special area of conservation protected by law due to its importance for rare wildlife including the Atlantic salmon, which is threatened with extinction from Wales.
"The canal took around 30% of the total flow of the river in 2022 - which was the last dry year period," said Gail Davies-Walsh, chief executive of Afonydd Cymru which represents river groups across Wales. Limits on abstraction were needed to ensure the species and habitats had sufficient water to survive "particularly during dry summers and low flow periods," she said.

Mark Evans, director of Glandŵr Cymru, said the trust accepted it could no longer continue to abstract water from the Usk at the same level as it had in the past. But recent dry weather highlighted the urgency of finding an alternative supply, he said. "The amount of water we can take is starting to really concern us," he explained. "It's urgent today, looking at the forecast for the next week. At some point we'll have to stop the boats from using the locks," he warned, adding that both the canal's users and its wildlife would be impacted as levels fell.
Discussions have been taking place in recent weeks with Welsh Water over whether it could help to support the canal during periods of prolonged dry weather. But this would come with "financial implications" and the potential of having to pay commercial rates for the water, resulting in a considerable bill the charity could not afford, he claimed.
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There are fears one of Wales' most popular canals could start to dry up within a week, prompting calls for the Welsh government to intervene.
Operators of the 225-year-old Monmouthshire and Brecon Canal have warned of an "urgent" water shortage without the prospect of imminent rainfall. It comes amid debate over how the historic attraction should secure its water supply in future after limits were placed on taking water from the environmentally sensitive River Usk.
The Welsh government said any arrangement between the Canal & River Trust and Welsh Water would be a commercial decision in which it should play no role.
The 35-mile (56 km) waterway weaves its way through the Bannau Brycheiniog National Park - formerly known as the Brecon Beacons National Park - and the Blaenavon industrial landscape World Heritage Site, attracting an estimated 3 million visitors a year for boating, walking and cycling.
"Everything the canal supports is at threat - we risk losing the jewel in the crown of south Wales," said Tracey Leake-Jones, who runs the Bridge 46 to Five Locks canal group. Made up of volunteers, the group runs events along the canal and has fundraised to install planters, benches and signs. The prospect of it having to close due to water shortages was "utterly devastating", she said. "There has to be a solution found, and my view is that the Welsh government and its leaders are the only people who can bring all the main players together."
She pointed to new housing estates being built along the canal with the waterway used as a marketing tool, and said the local council hoped to be able to open up further stretches down to Cwmbran, describing the economic benefits as "unimaginable". "Should we have problems with water supply then what's going to happen to those plans for restoration that we've all been working on for the past three years?"
News broke of the difficulties facing the canal in a letter sent to local businesses by Glandŵr Cymru, external, the Canal and River Trust in Wales, in February. It explained the canal, which once transported iron and coal to Newport docks, had relied on funnelling water from the River Usk and its tributaries which accounted for 80-90% of its water supply.
Recent changes in legislation, designed in part to protect rivers in the face of climate change, means licences are now required, restricting the amount of water that can be taken. Last year, Glandŵr Cymru lost an appeal against some of the conditions stipulated by environmental regulator Natural Resources Wales (NRW).
The River Usk is a designated special area of conservation protected by law due to its importance for rare wildlife including the Atlantic salmon, which is threatened with extinction from Wales.
"The canal took around 30% of the total flow of the river in 2022 - which was the last dry year period," said Gail Davies-Walsh, chief executive of Afonydd Cymru which represents river groups across Wales. Limits on abstraction were needed to ensure the species and habitats had sufficient water to survive "particularly during dry summers and low flow periods," she said.

Mark Evans, director of Glandŵr Cymru, said the trust accepted it could no longer continue to abstract water from the Usk at the same level as it had in the past. But recent dry weather highlighted the urgency of finding an alternative supply, he said. "The amount of water we can take is starting to really concern us," he explained. "It's urgent today, looking at the forecast for the next week. At some point we'll have to stop the boats from using the locks," he warned, adding that both the canal's users and its wildlife would be impacted as levels fell.
Discussions have been taking place in recent weeks with Welsh Water over whether it could help to support the canal during periods of prolonged dry weather. But this would come with "financial implications" and the potential of having to pay commercial rates for the water, resulting in a considerable bill the charity could not afford, he claimed.
(Article continues)
"Long Products"... Steel Rail. In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [359867/30070/51] Posted by Mark A at 11:53, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Wondering how much of the rail used for railway lines is currently imported. Also thinking of the forces disrupting international trade and also UK energy prices - and wondering how much of the remaining UK steel industry needs to close before 100% of what's needed for the rail system is imported.
Mark
Re: Around London - can you name the line and station? In "The Lighter Side" [359866/30065/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:53, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
To be fair, I, too, had to look up Lioness Line.

Re: Where was Red Squirrel 25/3/2025 In "The Lighter Side" [359865/30064/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:50, 27th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Some members seem to have missed the double negative! It’s not not Nailsea and Backwell, despite Chris from Nailsea’s assertion.
Due to some major building work, the Squirrels are currently living in the most triangular village in North Somerset (another quiz - where might that be?). NLS is our most convenient local station for the duration.
I was shocked at the state of the stairs - surely they will be condemned soon?
Due to some major building work, the Squirrels are currently living in the most triangular village in North Somerset (another quiz - where might that be?). NLS is our most convenient local station for the duration.
I was shocked at the state of the stairs - surely they will be condemned soon?
Oh - I stand (humbly) corrected.

Failand - very definitely a triangle.

If someone would provide the necessary £1million plus, we could have a new access ramp, bridge and lifts to both platforms ...
