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I had one from Southern Vectis ( late 80s?) which had a most amusing front and back cover.
I came to GBTT late - but here are the front covers of the later ones






Guess I need to go back and look at the back covers too.
Don't worry, Nige and his mob will have it all sorted soon!

| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [367784/31028/51] Posted by Mark A at 09:41, 5th November 2025 | ![]() |
Derailments and collisions are rare, I wish the IEP class 80x trains had couplers with similar properties to those on the Pendolinos.
Mark
The Scotsman has a picture of the actual slip, and some new text .... I'll quote the start of it but the main text is behind their paywall and only visible if you pay or can read HTML source.
Sensors installed to detect movement in the hillside above the site of the Glasgow-London train derailment in Cumbria appear to have failed to avert the incident, an industry source has told The Scotsman. The first carriage of the 11-coach Avanti West Coast service came off the tracks at 6.10am on Monday when it hit an “object” following a suspect landslip, Network Rail has said. Four of the 87 passengers and crew suffered minor injuries in the incident on the west coast main line near Shap. Network Rail has installed tilt meters or “inclinometers” to detect soil and rock movement since 2022, starting in Scotland. That followed a ScotRail train crashing into a bridge parapet after it hit landslide debris at Carmont, near Stonehaven, in 2020, in which three people died. Network Rail said the sensors sent alerts to control rooms when there was more than a five degree tilt. The industry source said: “The area is very prone to earthworks issues, and getting worse with climate change. “Much of the railway in the fells is built on the side of the hills, so the drainage off the fields is often across the railway. “The area was already staked out with movement detectors, which, for whatever reason, do not appear to have prevented the derailment by stopping train movement in time.” The source also said the Pendolino train had “stayed upright and within the railway alignment, which it is designed to do. The train couplers effectively hold the front vehicle upright and in line. “Luckily nothing was coming the other way and the train hit no obstructions, unlike at Carmont.” However, another industry source said ...
It was really fortunate that there was no train passing on the down road. The consequences of that do not bear thinking about
Edited to correct the name of the Down Main Line
| Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion In "Across the West" [367781/18719/26] Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:17, 5th November 2025 | ![]() |
So give it a few years and apparently nationalisation and GBR will have a strategy to fix the problem, in the meantime presumably no improvement,
I am going somewhat offtopic here, but I did notice in Rachel Reeves' pre budget speech yesterday that she softened us up to expect tax rises in three weeks time ... and in doing so stated here priority in [continued] investing in three areas, one of which was transport. As I say off topic, but I want to record in public my noting of that committement (if it was that strong)
If, as I would suspect, there are rises in tax rates (which almost always seem to reduce the tax take, but that's another argument) in the coming budget, that doesn't say much for The Chancellor of the Exchequer's commitments. She committed to no increases in rates for income tax, employee NI and VAT, and said after the last budget that there would be no more big tax rises.
Now it turns out there's a £91 bn hole that's been dug (according to former ONS wizard Jamie Jenkins)
Don't hold your breath waiting for any meaningful increase in spending on public transport
| Update - post here on this board looking forward to GBR too In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [367779/31036/40] Posted by grahame at 08:53, 5th November 2025 | ![]() |
Board title and subtitle changed - added in the next 2 years as well as 5, 10 and 20
Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years
Planning for GBR, Net zero, and much more - a time of great opportunity and great risk
Planning for GBR, Net zero, and much more - a time of great opportunity and great risk
Also been specific about GBR and Net zero - though there is so much else too as we gaze in our crystal balls and perhaps start seeing some clarity in the pictures they paint.
| Re: Lawrence Hill rail station to become step free with new lift In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [367777/30929/21] Posted by grahame at 08:39, 5th November 2025 | ![]() |
I forgot to allow for the fact that person needing to see the signal will be above the tracks, rather than standing in the platform as I was! Still going to be rather crowded at the platform end - the steps are going to have to be narrower than they are at present, I reckon.
Is / will Lawrence Hill be a barriered station?
| Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion In "Across the West" [367776/18719/26] Posted by grahame at 08:38, 5th November 2025 | ![]() |
So give it a few years and apparently nationalisation and GBR will have a strategy to fix the problem, in the meantime presumably no improvement,
I am going somewhat offtopic here, but I did notice in Rachel Reeves' pre budget speech yesterday that she softened us up to expect tax rises in three weeks time ... and in doing so stated here priority in [continued] investing in three areas, one of which was transport. As I say off topic, but I want to record in public my noting of that committement (if it was that strong)
| Re: Great British Railways In "Introductions and chat" [367775/31034/1] Posted by grahame at 08:33, 5th November 2025 Already liked by GBM, Mark A | ![]() |
Like the idea or not, this is coming down the line, is it perhaps time to open a sub forum for all things GBR as the megalith emerges?
This forum is nothing if not quick in following up on member suggestions
... and we have discussed overnight behind the counter. There is a temptation, for sure, to add a board or a sub-board - but such temptations can lead to a fragmentation of areas with only a handful of posts and confusion as to where to post. Can do better to meet the objectives of looking forward for GBR?* Our "Looking forward, 5, 10 and 15 year" board title / subtitle to be updated to very clearly mark it as the place for emerging GBR posts, where they will naturally sit alongside emerging electrification, regional mayoral stuff, and so forth.
* Immediate posts of what is going on NOW (and threads may move there from "Looking forward" when things eventually happen in "Across the West" or "Wider Picture".
* Our forum does already respond to https://www.greatbritishrailways.info/ which was registered on 26th January 2024
... but ideally, publicity and sharing should be done through a single domain name so that our search engine presence is concentrated on one name - doing one place well rather than lots of places badly, and also helping to keep spidering down to a level our server can manage.| Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion In "Across the West" [367774/18719/26] Posted by John D at 08:04, 5th November 2025 Already liked by Witham Bobby | ![]() |
Lots of GBR announcements overnight ahead of Parliamentary Bill.
The new policy is
(Quote)
Passengers have become all too familiar with announcements that their train has been cancelled at the last minute due to a shortage of staff. This is because train operators currently have little incentive to plan how to staff services for the long term and no single body is responsible for training and developing train staff at a strategic level. GBR will be able to take long-term decisions focused on passengers, not profit – including creating more flexible and resilient workforce plans to cut down on cancellations.
(unquote)
So give it a few years and apparently nationalisation and GBR will have a strategy to fix the problem, in the meantime presumably no improvement,
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/a-railway-fit-for-britains-future-government-response/a-railway-fit-for-britains-future-government-response-executive-summary
| Re: Lawrence Hill rail station to become step free with new lift In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [367773/30929/21] Posted by Sulis John at 07:33, 5th November 2025 | ![]() |
I forgot to allow for the fact that person needing to see the signal will be above the tracks, rather than standing in the platform as I was! Still going to be rather crowded at the platform end - the steps are going to have to be narrower than they are at present, I reckon.
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [367772/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 02:19, 5th November 2025 | ![]() |
1P34 15:18 Foregate St to London Paddington (17:29) : started from Shrub Hill (+21), arrived +32.
1P38 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington (19:29) : started from Shrub Hill.
1P40 18:02 Foregate Street to London Paddington (20:29) : held Charlbury for 1W34 (+16), arrived +6.
1P42 19:02 Great Malvern to London Paddington (21:26) : held Malvern Link (+21), arrived +24.
1P44 19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington (22:24) : departed +14, Oxford +9, arrived +17.
1W25 12:52 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street (15:00) : delayed by OHLE problems, Oxford +14, held outside Shrub Hill, arrived Shrub Hill +27 and cancelled thereafter.
1W27 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern (16:15) : held Evesham for 1P34 (+23), arrived Shrub Hill +27 and cancelled thereafter.
1W33 16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern (19:25) : delayed after Foregate Street, arrived +15.
1W03 17:34 London Paddington to Hereford (20:25) : held Shrub Hill for 1P42 (+16), Malvern Wells (+28), arrived +28.
1W34 17:57 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street (20:11) : departed +11, arrived Shrub Hill +23, Foregate Street +35.
| Re: Stonehenge - National Monument in Wiltshire: merged posts, ongoing discussion In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [367771/22806/31] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:33, 4th November 2025 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Revoking Stonehenge A303 tunnel consent would be 'unacceptable'

A proposal to revoke planning consent for a tunnel to be built near Stonehenge has been described as "completely unacceptable".
The controversial plan for the A303 was originally given planning permission in 2023, but the scheme - which had already had £179.2m spent on it - was scrapped last year due to finances. However, the government revoking permission altogether would mean that - if the idea was ever revived - the planning process would have to start again.
Wiltshire Council's leader said this would "disregard years of planning, consultation and investment", while the Department for Transport (DfT) said challenging finances had led to "difficult decisions" about a number of road projects.
Despite the axing of the scheme, the power to build the tunnel – called a development consent order – currently remains in place following approval by the previous Conservative government. But the DFT has issued a draft revoking order, with a consultation until 21 November, before a final decision is made.
Councillor Ian Thorn, leader of Wiltshire Council, said the proposal would "throw away a once-in-a-generation opportunity to improve one of the region's most vital transport corridors".
"The consequences of this decision are far-reaching. It would condemn local communities to continued congestion and rat-running," he added. Mr Thorn also said the government had not discussed alternatives and the move would make it harder to "unlock" jobs and investment in the region. He vowed to contest the government's intention in "the strongest possible terms."
A DfT spokesperson said: "Given the challenging financial picture we inherited, we had to make difficult decisions about a number of road projects as they were unfunded or unaffordable. We remain committed to investing in projects that deliver for the taxpayer and drive growth, which is why we are investing nearly £5 billion in this year alone on our Strategic Road Network to support its maintenance, enhancement, and ensure smoother journeys."

A proposal to revoke planning consent for a tunnel to be built near Stonehenge has been described as "completely unacceptable".
The controversial plan for the A303 was originally given planning permission in 2023, but the scheme - which had already had £179.2m spent on it - was scrapped last year due to finances. However, the government revoking permission altogether would mean that - if the idea was ever revived - the planning process would have to start again.
Wiltshire Council's leader said this would "disregard years of planning, consultation and investment", while the Department for Transport (DfT) said challenging finances had led to "difficult decisions" about a number of road projects.
Despite the axing of the scheme, the power to build the tunnel – called a development consent order – currently remains in place following approval by the previous Conservative government. But the DFT has issued a draft revoking order, with a consultation until 21 November, before a final decision is made.
Councillor Ian Thorn, leader of Wiltshire Council, said the proposal would "throw away a once-in-a-generation opportunity to improve one of the region's most vital transport corridors".
"The consequences of this decision are far-reaching. It would condemn local communities to continued congestion and rat-running," he added. Mr Thorn also said the government had not discussed alternatives and the move would make it harder to "unlock" jobs and investment in the region. He vowed to contest the government's intention in "the strongest possible terms."
A DfT spokesperson said: "Given the challenging financial picture we inherited, we had to make difficult decisions about a number of road projects as they were unfunded or unaffordable. We remain committed to investing in projects that deliver for the taxpayer and drive growth, which is why we are investing nearly £5 billion in this year alone on our Strategic Road Network to support its maintenance, enhancement, and ensure smoother journeys."
| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [367770/31028/51] Posted by Mark A at 21:38, 4th November 2025 | ![]() |
The Scotsman[/url] has a picture of the actual slip, and some new text
The geology map shows that things locally aren't totally straightforward but the cutting itself is through a single... type of ground listed at sandstone but the cutting does go through a small circular(ish) patch of something igneous that doesn't seem to have much expression on the ground there.
The railway there... it's Mr Locke's work isn't it. He didn't like tunnels. (He has a point...)
Mark
| Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2025 In "TransWilts line" [367769/29726/18] Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:55, 4th November 2025 | ![]() |
21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58
21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew
That's a lot to do in a short time for one person! Especially when adrenalin is flowing.
That's what adrenalin is for: "Oh, surely not - something has just gone badly wrong and I suddenly need to become very busy busy!"

The Scotsman has a picture of the actual slip, and some new text .... I'll quote the start of it but the main text is behind their paywall and only visible if you pay or can read HTML source.
Sensors installed to detect movement in the hillside above the site of the Glasgow-London train derailment in Cumbria appear to have failed to avert the incident, an industry source has told The Scotsman. The first carriage of the 11-coach Avanti West Coast service came off the tracks at 6.10am on Monday when it hit an “object” following a suspect landslip, Network Rail has said. Four of the 87 passengers and crew suffered minor injuries in the incident on the west coast main line near Shap. Network Rail has installed tilt meters or “inclinometers” to detect soil and rock movement since 2022, starting in Scotland. That followed a ScotRail train crashing into a bridge parapet after it hit landslide debris at Carmont, near Stonehaven, in 2020, in which three people died. Network Rail said the sensors sent alerts to control rooms when there was more than a five degree tilt. The industry source said: “The area is very prone to earthworks issues, and getting worse with climate change. “Much of the railway in the fells is built on the side of the hills, so the drainage off the fields is often across the railway. “The area was already staked out with movement detectors, which, for whatever reason, do not appear to have prevented the derailment by stopping train movement in time.” The source also said the Pendolino train had “stayed upright and within the railway alignment, which it is designed to do. The train couplers effectively hold the front vehicle upright and in line. “Luckily nothing was coming the other way and the train hit no obstructions, unlike at Carmont.” However, another industry source said ...
From the BBC:
Train hero who saved passengers during attack named

Samir Zitouni is credited with saving lives on the train
A rail worker credited with saving multiple lives during a mass stabbing on a train has been named as Samir Zitouni.
The 48-year-old's actions on the Doncaster to London King's Cross service on Saturday evening were described as "nothing short of heroic". Mr Zitouni remains "critically unwell" but stable in hospital, British Transport Police said.
Anthony Williams, 32, of no fixed abode, was charged with 10 counts of attempted murder relating to the train stabbing and a count of attempted murder in connection with an attack in London on Saturday.
Mr Zitouni has worked for LNER for more than 20 years.
David Horne, LNER managing director, said: "In a moment of crisis, Sam did not hesitate as he stepped forward to protect those around him. His actions were incredibly brave, and we are so proud of him, and of all our colleagues who acted with such courage that evening. Our thoughts and prayers remain with Sam and his family. We will continue to support them and wish him a full and speedy recovery."
It is thought Mr Zitouni "blocked" the attacker from stabbing a girl, leaving him with a gash on his head and neck. In a statement, his family said they were " immensely proud of Sam and his courage".
"The police called him a hero on Saturday evening, but to us he's always been a hero," they said. "We have been deeply touched by the outpouring of love and kindness shown to Sam, and by the many well-wishes for his recovery. The care provided by the hospital and the support from his colleagues at LNER has been incredible."
On Monday morning, Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander told BBC Breakfast the bravery he showed was "utterly remarkable" after putting himself "in harm's way".
"There are people who are alive today who wouldn't be… were it not for his actions."
Peter McDonald, the Liberal Democrat chairman of Cambridgeshire County Council, also paid tribute to the "extraordinary bravery" shown by Mr Zitouni. He said: "In a moment of great danger, Sam put the safety of others before his own. Thanks to his courage and presence of mind, lives were saved." He further praised the efforts of all the emergency service staff involved and those employed by the train operator and Network Rail.
Ten people on board the LNER train, which stopped at Huntingdon in Cambridgeshire, were taken to Addenbrooke's Hospital. An eleventh person went to the hospital later. Seven of those have been discharged and four remain in a stable condition, British Transport Police said.
The attack took place on the 18:25 GMT LNER service from Doncaster, South Yorkshire to London's King's Cross station. Passengers said one person brandishing a knife began stabbing people on the train after it passed through Peterborough.
(BBC article continues)

Samir Zitouni is credited with saving lives on the train
A rail worker credited with saving multiple lives during a mass stabbing on a train has been named as Samir Zitouni.
The 48-year-old's actions on the Doncaster to London King's Cross service on Saturday evening were described as "nothing short of heroic". Mr Zitouni remains "critically unwell" but stable in hospital, British Transport Police said.
Anthony Williams, 32, of no fixed abode, was charged with 10 counts of attempted murder relating to the train stabbing and a count of attempted murder in connection with an attack in London on Saturday.
Mr Zitouni has worked for LNER for more than 20 years.
David Horne, LNER managing director, said: "In a moment of crisis, Sam did not hesitate as he stepped forward to protect those around him. His actions were incredibly brave, and we are so proud of him, and of all our colleagues who acted with such courage that evening. Our thoughts and prayers remain with Sam and his family. We will continue to support them and wish him a full and speedy recovery."
It is thought Mr Zitouni "blocked" the attacker from stabbing a girl, leaving him with a gash on his head and neck. In a statement, his family said they were " immensely proud of Sam and his courage".
"The police called him a hero on Saturday evening, but to us he's always been a hero," they said. "We have been deeply touched by the outpouring of love and kindness shown to Sam, and by the many well-wishes for his recovery. The care provided by the hospital and the support from his colleagues at LNER has been incredible."
On Monday morning, Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander told BBC Breakfast the bravery he showed was "utterly remarkable" after putting himself "in harm's way".
"There are people who are alive today who wouldn't be… were it not for his actions."
Peter McDonald, the Liberal Democrat chairman of Cambridgeshire County Council, also paid tribute to the "extraordinary bravery" shown by Mr Zitouni. He said: "In a moment of great danger, Sam put the safety of others before his own. Thanks to his courage and presence of mind, lives were saved." He further praised the efforts of all the emergency service staff involved and those employed by the train operator and Network Rail.
Ten people on board the LNER train, which stopped at Huntingdon in Cambridgeshire, were taken to Addenbrooke's Hospital. An eleventh person went to the hospital later. Seven of those have been discharged and four remain in a stable condition, British Transport Police said.
The attack took place on the 18:25 GMT LNER service from Doncaster, South Yorkshire to London's King's Cross station. Passengers said one person brandishing a knife began stabbing people on the train after it passed through Peterborough.
(BBC article continues)
| Re: Boy killed on rail crossing at Kenley was 'distracted by phone' - 23 Jan 2025 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [367762/31033/51] Posted by stuving at 18:30, 4th November 2025 | ![]() |
The full RAIB report is also summarised on this page. The main points are in the BBC report given above.
| Re: West of England Line - Soil Moisture Deficit Update - 10 October 2025 In "South Western services" [367761/30889/42] Posted by CyclingSid at 18:16, 4th November 2025 | ![]() |
For the probable source and updates to SMD see: https://nrfa.ceh.ac.uk/sites/default/files/2025-10/HS_202509.pdf p.11
For the look forward see https://hydoutuk.net/sites/default/files/2025-10/2025_10_HO_Complete_F.pdf which suggests that unless we have a very wet winter and spring we could be in a challenging situation for water next year, whatever the situation on railways.
| Re: Great British Railways In "Introductions and chat" [367758/31034/1] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:32, 4th November 2025 | ![]() |
Thank you for your suggestion, RailCornwall.

I shall confer with my fellow Admins and Moderators on the Coffee Shop forum and let you know!
CfN.















