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| Re: Portishead Line reopening for passengers - ongoing discussion In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [368368/231/28] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:40, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
The 'speed at which' anything can happen in North Somerset is worthy of headline news.

| Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368367/31117/51] Posted by IndustryInsider at 18:02, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
Fenny Stratford closure could perhaps be mitigated by a new entrance on the east side of Bletchley station, which may even be planned anyway; when I was last there a few months ago walking to the only entrance involved a depressing trek under the entire West Coast main line (one of those bridges that always seems to be dripping even during a drought), then doubling back up an unpleasant staircase and past a couple of staff car parks.
Agreed it's a grim walk, and there are plans for a new entrance on the east side provided it's funded by third parties.
East West Rail say in their report today:
Following further analysis of future passenger demand at Bletchley station and taking account of the consultation feedback, we’ve developed our design proposals to improve the station and increase its capacity. The proposed station upgrade now includes:
A new accessible footbridge at the south end of the station, with lifts and stairs to all platforms.
Extended platforms and improved emergency exits for platforms 6, 7 and 8.
An expanded western ticket hall and gate line, along with upgrades to the station forecourt.
In addition to these improvements, we’re now considering including an eastern entrance to the station within our design, although the construction of this entrance would be subject to securing third-party funding.
If delivered, the eastern entrance would benefit users of the station and the wider area, especially travellers accessing the station from the town centre. It would support a longstanding priority for Milton Keynes City Council and the wider community. It would:
Improve connectivity through the town, providing a gateway to destinations like Bletchley Park and Stadium MK enabling access to rail services for residents affected by the closure of Fenny Stratford station.
Support wider regeneration plans, including road network upgrades and redevelopment of the Brunel Shopping Centre.
Reduce walking distance between EWR platforms and the town centre by approximately 600 metres.
Whilst this entrance is not required to accommodate EWR passenger demand, it is being included in our proposals because of the potential to secure third-party funding for this, and due to the additional benefits and connectivity it could bring. If third-party funding is not secured then the inclusion of an entrance in our plans would be reviewed.
More details will be provided when we consult in 2026.
A new accessible footbridge at the south end of the station, with lifts and stairs to all platforms.
Extended platforms and improved emergency exits for platforms 6, 7 and 8.
An expanded western ticket hall and gate line, along with upgrades to the station forecourt.
In addition to these improvements, we’re now considering including an eastern entrance to the station within our design, although the construction of this entrance would be subject to securing third-party funding.
If delivered, the eastern entrance would benefit users of the station and the wider area, especially travellers accessing the station from the town centre. It would support a longstanding priority for Milton Keynes City Council and the wider community. It would:
Improve connectivity through the town, providing a gateway to destinations like Bletchley Park and Stadium MK enabling access to rail services for residents affected by the closure of Fenny Stratford station.
Support wider regeneration plans, including road network upgrades and redevelopment of the Brunel Shopping Centre.
Reduce walking distance between EWR platforms and the town centre by approximately 600 metres.
Whilst this entrance is not required to accommodate EWR passenger demand, it is being included in our proposals because of the potential to secure third-party funding for this, and due to the additional benefits and connectivity it could bring. If third-party funding is not secured then the inclusion of an entrance in our plans would be reviewed.
More details will be provided when we consult in 2026.
| Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368366/31117/51] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 17:55, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
Closing Bow Brickhill does seem mad, and Grahame's theory about the suggestion being part of the planning game may be correct, though the bridge problem may prove insurmountable. Maybe they'll manage to come up with a new station design that works. Fenny Stratford closure could perhaps be mitigated by a new entrance on the east side of Bletchley station, which may even be planned anyway; when I was last there a few months ago walking to the only entrance involved a depressing trek under the entire West Coast main line (one of those bridges that always seems to be dripping even during a drought), then doubling back up an unpleasant staircase and past a couple of staff car parks.
That “some of the lowest usage in the country” statement is pushing it a bit, none of them being in the lowest 100 and Fenny Stratford at least should have scope for increased usage even if Bow Brickhill apparently wouldn't. If closing stations to improve the service to others is now in vogue, a better case could be made for closing at least a couple on the Barnstaple branch, which might help with the situation discussed in another thread https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=31055.0.
...and don't get me started on "Parliamentary" services. The current closure process provides no real protection, and just results in the expense of providing the occasional train which is of no use to anyone other than us enthusiasts.
| Re: Portishead Line reopening for passengers - ongoing discussion In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [368365/231/28] Posted by chuffed at 17:36, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
The speed at which the clearance is going is amazing. The line being lifted in short 3 sleeper lengths and neatly stacked for recycling/retrieval.
| Re: Pilning Station - where are we, and looking at future options (May 2025) In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [368364/30237/21] Posted by chuffed at 17:33, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
If you look back to Beeching closures, how many times did stations receive a full maintenance and repaint job, just before closure was announced .....

There's also been a report produced today on the unofficial consultation that they held at the start of the year.
Found here, it covers all the items that were consulted on, including the closure of the Bicester London Road level crossing.
This got media coverage too
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp853jxydg3o
Other media on the union dispute -
https://www.railmagazine.com/news/chiltern-confirms-driver-only-operation-on-east-west-rail
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/nov/19/launch-east-west-rail-services-delayed-row-guards-trains?utm_term=691d7649df84b608a3bc0e643f36b9cb&utm_campaign=BusinessToday&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=bustoday_email
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c364g92ygggo
Chiltern put out a catch-up email to stakeholders announcing officially that there are to be no services started in 2025 & that they are still working to find a solution
| Re: East - West Rail update (Oxford to Bedford) - ongoing discussion In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [368362/1219/28] Posted by grahame at 17:22, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
From GB News
The opening of a new £7billion railway line has been delayed after a row between trade unions over who should operate the trains' doors.
East West Rail (EWR) is one of the Government's leading rail schemes, reopening a disused rail route since the 1960s and will eventually link Oxford and Cambridge.
It has been unavailable for public use despite the Government saying it would open this year and empty passenger trains running up and down the new lines for several months.
The Telegraph reported that an insider said some of the delays were due to "our trade union colleagues ... holding us up on opening the doors".
The dispute between the unions and the train company is believed to be focused on who should open the train doors - the guard or the driver.
Unions are against drivers operating the doors because it would delete the guard's job, reducing union membership and income in the long-term, but also meaning the driver could be accountable for any so-called "trap and drag" accidents with passengers.
East West Rail (EWR) is one of the Government's leading rail schemes, reopening a disused rail route since the 1960s and will eventually link Oxford and Cambridge.
It has been unavailable for public use despite the Government saying it would open this year and empty passenger trains running up and down the new lines for several months.
The Telegraph reported that an insider said some of the delays were due to "our trade union colleagues ... holding us up on opening the doors".
The dispute between the unions and the train company is believed to be focused on who should open the train doors - the guard or the driver.
Unions are against drivers operating the doors because it would delete the guard's job, reducing union membership and income in the long-term, but also meaning the driver could be accountable for any so-called "trap and drag" accidents with passengers.
| Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368361/31117/51] Posted by IndustryInsider at 17:20, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
Google "satellite" view shows that there's a fair amount of housing in the surrounding area with potential for even more close to the Bow Brickhill Station site. A case for mothballing rather than closure perhaps? Do NR do station mothballing?
It seems to be more about the current stations proximity to the road which will likely need to be replaced with a bridge.
East West Rail says the following:
At Bow Brickhill, we’re determining whether we need to provide a new road bridge which would split the existing station in half. While we’ve explored how the station could be relocated around this bridge, we’ve found that it would not be possible to expand the station without impacting neighbouring properties, businesses and developments. The overbridge itself could also act as a physical barrier to people trying to reach the station from its opposite side. Without space for essential facilities, like parking and drop-off areas and bus connections, it is likely that passenger numbers would remain low, even with development to the south and south-east of the station.
| Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368360/31117/51] Posted by The Tall Controller at 16:55, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
Parliamentary services work when there is just one station that needs to be closed. But closing 5 stations gives the government better value for their time/effort/money. 1 stone, 5 birds!
Having said that, is it that hard to fit all-stations services around the fast/semi-fast services?
| Re: Advertising of misleading minimum pricing which is scarcely available In "Fare's Fair" [368359/31116/4] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:36, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
| Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368358/31117/51] Posted by Oxonhutch at 16:33, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
... Do NR do station mothballing?
Or run a Parliamentary service once a week like Stockport - Stalybridge.
I have to say that Graham's "Planners Compromise" could be on the mark - considering all the housing nearby and the uplift in traffic with an improved service.
| Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368357/31117/51] Posted by Witham Bobby at 16:27, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
Not many closure proposals involving five stations all at once in the past 50 years
| Re: Advertising of misleading minimum pricing which is scarcely available In "Fare's Fair" [368356/31116/4] Posted by eightonedee at 16:27, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
but I do sometimes look at adverts for excellent pubic transport fares and all too often find they have very limited availability. Have others experienced this?
Mostly with airlines....
Thank you for your informative and indeed authoritative post, IndustryInsider.

Any idea why it's taking so long to resolve this one?
I don't know the answer, but it's over a crossing and so usually it will be one (or a combination of) a special part being needed, it having a minimal impact on the service, and/or difficulty getting the time/staff/equipment to make repairs.
In terms of the impact on the service, it's just affecting the down line towards Penzance and is a 5mph restriction over a distance of 200 metres which seems to be typically causing 3-5 minute delay. Many services have a layover at Plymouth of at least that and in many cases much more, so actual delays further west are minimised.
| Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368353/31117/51] Posted by johnneyw at 15:58, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
Google "satellite" view shows that there's a fair amount of housing in the surrounding area with potential for even more close to the Bow Brickhill Station site. A case for mothballing rather than closure perhaps? Do NR do station mothballing?
From the BBC:
New Strawberry Line pathway extension opens

A new bridge and section of a walking and cycling path has opened in Somerset.
The Strawberry Line link, a traffic-free pathway, has been extended from Cheddar reservoir to the Draycott Park estate.
The project team said it is the fifth new bridge built on the former Great Western Railway line, which was used for transporting strawberries in the 1960s, in the past three years with plans to expand the line further across Somerset. Negotiations are ongoing with landowners between Wells and Shepton Mallet which may lead to the line being extended further.
Mick Fletcher, chair of the Strawberry Line Society, said the "important link" will enable people to get from one side of the village "to the other without having to navigate the traffic". He added: "Children will be able to go to school on their bikes or on foot whereas you would be reluctant to let younger children go along the main road."
The railway line was closed in 1963 as part of the Beeching cuts, which saw a reduction of the UK rail network and severed thousands of miles of track.
Somerset Council has been working to upgrade "missing links" across the county with various new sections at Shepton Mallet, Wells and Sandford opened in the past few years. It wants to encourage people to walk and cycle more to reduce congestion and pollution levels.

The Kings Academy Strawberry Line path bridge crosses the Cheddar Yeo river
"This a large statement, about our intention to make active travel more of a possibility for people in Somerset," he added.
A spokesperson for the Strawberry Line project said the extension of the route, which begins at Yatton railway station, will also be a "vital link" in efforts to close the remaining gaps of the path between Cheddar and Shepton Mallet.

A new bridge and section of a walking and cycling path has opened in Somerset.
The Strawberry Line link, a traffic-free pathway, has been extended from Cheddar reservoir to the Draycott Park estate.
The project team said it is the fifth new bridge built on the former Great Western Railway line, which was used for transporting strawberries in the 1960s, in the past three years with plans to expand the line further across Somerset. Negotiations are ongoing with landowners between Wells and Shepton Mallet which may lead to the line being extended further.
Mick Fletcher, chair of the Strawberry Line Society, said the "important link" will enable people to get from one side of the village "to the other without having to navigate the traffic". He added: "Children will be able to go to school on their bikes or on foot whereas you would be reluctant to let younger children go along the main road."
The railway line was closed in 1963 as part of the Beeching cuts, which saw a reduction of the UK rail network and severed thousands of miles of track.
Somerset Council has been working to upgrade "missing links" across the county with various new sections at Shepton Mallet, Wells and Sandford opened in the past few years. It wants to encourage people to walk and cycle more to reduce congestion and pollution levels.

The Kings Academy Strawberry Line path bridge crosses the Cheddar Yeo river
"This a large statement, about our intention to make active travel more of a possibility for people in Somerset," he added.
A spokesperson for the Strawberry Line project said the extension of the route, which begins at Yatton railway station, will also be a "vital link" in efforts to close the remaining gaps of the path between Cheddar and Shepton Mallet.
| Re: Track defect at Plymouth - November 2025 In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [368351/31121/25] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:13, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
We are working with Network Rail ...
Rather mischievously on my part: that may be where your problem lies. CfN.

No, ChrisB, you are correct.
The forum software we use is perhaps rather simplistic: it will indeed apply any such request to ALL unread messages.
That is why I never use it: I'd prefer to be very selective in what I read on the Coffee Shop forum. Which is everything, actually.
CfN.

| Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2025 In "TransWilts line" [368349/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 14:38, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:00
15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59
15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train.
Further Information
If you arrive at your destination 15 or more minutes late because your GWR train was delayed or cancelled, you can claim Delay Repay compensation. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:19/11/2025 14:17
15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59
15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train.
Further Information
If you arrive at your destination 15 or more minutes late because your GWR train was delayed or cancelled, you can claim Delay Repay compensation. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:19/11/2025 14:17
| Track defect at Plymouth - November 2025 In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [368347/31121/25] Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:11, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
Any idea why it's taking so long to resolve this one?
Delays to services at Plymouth
Due to a speed restriction over defective track at Plymouth trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines.
Train services running through this station may be delayed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 22/11/25.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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A speed restriction has been imposed on the approach to Plymouth station on the line from Exeter St David's, this is due to a defect being identified.
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What are we doing about it?
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We are working with Network Rail to be able to return to running our normal timetable as soon as possible
| Re: Paddington to Bristol <-> service updates and amendments - ongoing discussion In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [368346/18525/10] Posted by matth1j at 14:10, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
1530 Bristol - Paddington cancelled (no reason given on National Rail).
| Re: Split ticket - what are the rules if a stop at the split point is withdrawn? In "Fare's Fair" [368345/31118/4] Posted by ChrisB at 13:56, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
from BR fares / stated as fares until 6th December. Are there changes (usually in an upwards direction) at that date?
Interesting - I know that all Manchester's fares that fall under the Mayor are mainly reducing & simplifying at that date too - so whether the fare change date that used to carry the main annual rise (now in March each year I believe) has moved from early January to the first week in December, I know not. It seems likely
| Re: Show unread posts since last visit - MARK ALL MESSAGES AS READ In "News, Help and Assistance" [368344/31120/29] Posted by ChrisB at 13:43, 19th November 2025 Already liked by matth1j | ![]() |
My understanding is that it marks ALL unread messages as 'Read', not just those being displayed. It is dangerous, and you can miss messages using it. Use with care.
Hopefully, I'll be corrected....
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [368343/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 13:27, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
Wednesday November 19
09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be terminated at Great Malvern.
It is being delayed at Reading.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:19/11/2025 12:14
Delayed Reading (+34), held Evesham (+52) and Shrub Hill (+61), arrived Great Malvern +66.It is being delayed at Reading.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:19/11/2025 12:14
1W02 11:52 London Paddington to Hereford (14:44) : +9 at Oxford, +19 at Shrub Hill, cancelled after Great Malvern.
14:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:04 will be started from Reading.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:19/11/2025 13:55
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:19/11/2025 13:55
1P28 11:58 Great Malvern to Paddington (14:23) : held Shrub Hill (+30) and Norton (+51), arrived Reading +59 and cancelled thereafter.
13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:24 will be started from Great Malvern.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:19/11/2025 12:14
15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Great Malvern.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:19/11/2025 14:15
This is due to a fault with the signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:19/11/2025 12:14
15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Great Malvern.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:19/11/2025 14:15
EDITS : 15:00 : additions, and sorted into better order
| Show unread posts since last visit - MARK ALL MESSAGES AS READ In "News, Help and Assistance" [368342/31120/29] Posted by matth1j at 13:18, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
Apologies if this is covered elsewhere, but regarding the "MARK ALL MESSAGES AS READ" link on the "Show unread posts since last visit" page...
Can I just check that it only marks all the messages currently displayed on my screen as read, and doesn't include any messages that have been posted since the page was displayed? That is, there's no danger of messages that I'm unaware of as being marked as read, and consequently missed (unless I use the "Recent posts" link)?
| Re: Multiple stabbings on a London bound train in Cambridgeshire - 01 Nov 25 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368341/31017/51] Posted by matth1j at 13:08, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dr9d7p102o
A 32-year-old man accused of stabbing 10 people on a train has been charged with further offences related to the day before the attack.
British Transport Police (BTP) said Anthony Williams, of no fixed abode, had been charged with seven other offences, including two counts of attempted murder, after an investigation.
Mr Williams is already charged with 10 counts of attempted murder in relation to a mass stabbing on a Doncaster to London King's Cross service on the evening of 1 November, which stopped in Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire.
BTP said the further charges related to alleged incidents in Peterborough, Stevenage, and on a train travelling between Hitchin and Biggleswade on 31 October.
Mr Williams is due to appear at Peterborough Magistrates' Court later, charged with the following:
Deputy Chief Constable Stuart Cundy, for BTP, said the investigation into the Huntingdon incident "had also focused on other offences previously reported to police or identified by our investigation".
"We have worked closely with our colleagues in Cambridgeshire and Hertfordshire Police, alongside the Crown Prosecution Service, to bring these charges," he said.
British Transport Police (BTP) said Anthony Williams, of no fixed abode, had been charged with seven other offences, including two counts of attempted murder, after an investigation.
Mr Williams is already charged with 10 counts of attempted murder in relation to a mass stabbing on a Doncaster to London King's Cross service on the evening of 1 November, which stopped in Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire.
BTP said the further charges related to alleged incidents in Peterborough, Stevenage, and on a train travelling between Hitchin and Biggleswade on 31 October.
Mr Williams is due to appear at Peterborough Magistrates' Court later, charged with the following:
- Attempted murder of a 14-year-old boy at Henry Penn Walk in Peterborough
- Attempted grievous bodily harm of a 28-year-old man at Viersen Platz in Peterborough
- Attempted murder of a 22-year-old man near Pleasure Fair Meadow Road in Peterborough
- Affray and possession of a bladed article in connection to an alleged incident at Ritzy Barbers in Peterborough
- Theft of knives from an Asda supermarket in Stevenage
- Common assault of a 31-year-old man onboard a train travelling between Hitchin and Biggleswade.
Deputy Chief Constable Stuart Cundy, for BTP, said the investigation into the Huntingdon incident "had also focused on other offences previously reported to police or identified by our investigation".
"We have worked closely with our colleagues in Cambridgeshire and Hertfordshire Police, alongside the Crown Prosecution Service, to bring these charges," he said.
From my googlings Bow Brickhill is about midway between Bedford and Woburn Sands - just over 3km from each.
Bedford and Woburn Sands
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...or even Bletchley!
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It's single track at Fenny Stratford and over the motorway and that's a real bottleneck for a less used station. It's doubled by Bow Brickhill. You will note from the map of Bow Brickhill that there is no obvious easy walking route to the next station; as I suspect is not an entire surprise, perhaps that one should be saved?
It's single track at Fenny Stratford and over the motorway and that's a real bottleneck for a less used station. It's doubled by Bow Brickhill. You will note from the map of Bow Brickhill that there is no obvious easy walking route to the next station; as I suspect is not an entire surprise, perhaps that one should be saved?
Able-bodied people will walk about 1km to a station, or 1.6 at a push. Anything beyond that needs a bus. But the post-Beeching experience of permanently replacing rail services with buses is that these services don't last long.
| Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368339/31117/51] Posted by grahame at 12:15, 19th November 2025 | ![]() |
From my googlings Bow Brickhill is about midway between Bedford and Woburn Sands - just over 3km from each.
Bedford and Woburn Sands
Closing small local stations to speed up through services is very redolent of the Beeching era. The natural instinct for many of us is to resist this. But others argue that to improve the speed and reliability of these services this is a price worth paying.
Agreed
It seems clear from EWR's analysis that retaining these stations would greatly compromise their business case for Oxford - Cambridge services. There would not be enough paths for the fast trains, and few paths for local trains. That's the central conundrum of a two-track railway.
It's single track at Fenny Stratford and over the motorway and that's a real bottleneck for a less used station. It's doubled by Bow Brickhill. You will note from the map of Bow Brickhill that there is no obvious easy walking route to the next station; as I suspect is not an entire surprise, perhaps that one should be saved?














