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Re: New Years honours - 2026 - "railway" people
In "Who's who on Western railways" [370437/31350/2]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:45, 2nd January 2026
 
He was given the CBE two years ago - and there's apparently an unwritten rule that no one can get more than one or 'promoted' within three years - so he is again eligible in a year's time. He'll get a knighthood then, I'm sure.

Re: New Years honours - 2026 - "railway" people
In "Who's who on Western railways" [370436/31350/2]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 11:42, 2nd January 2026
 
The omission of Kevin Sinfield comes to mind......

Re: Out with a Wales Explorer ticket 2/1/26
In "Introductions and chat" [370435/31377/1]
Posted by Mark A at 11:42, 2nd January 2026
 
Now on the T1 bus from Carmarthen, which as it turns out is electric.

I'm attempting to journal all this on this Bluesky thread. (A few photos there include blue sky too...)

Mark

https://bsky.app/profile/markannand.bsky.social/post/3mbgdkul46k25

Re: Point to point passenger numbers since the pandemic
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [370433/31376/51]
Posted by grahame at 11:32, 2nd January 2026
Already liked by PhilWakely
 
I wonder to what extent point-to-point journey figures are distorted by split save? Certainly it feels like it's a long time since I did a journey on XC which wasn't split.

Significantly! As is station footfall sadly! Whilst my local community (can't call it a village any more) of Pinhoe has grown significantly with development over the recent past, the station is a popular split for long distance tickets. The increase in station usage shown in various statistics cannot be just folk genuinely starting and ending their journeys there.

It is - always - worth a quick thought on splitting when analysing figures - and indeed over / under runs too.  Historically,  a lot of people bought "Melksham Specials" with no intent of travelling to, from or through Melksham and I know a host of examples where it's better to buy a longer distance ticket.

Re: Point to point passenger numbers since the pandemic
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [370432/31376/51]
Posted by grahame at 11:25, 2nd January 2026
Already liked by PhilWakely
 
I wonder to what extent point-to-point journey figures are distorted by split save? Certainly it feels like it's a long time since I did a journey on XC which wasn't split.

Several years ago, and ORR estimates for individual stations had added an adjustment to account for split ticketing.  And the station by station flow data (ODM) adds up to the numbers in the ORR estimated and thus it follows that the adjustment applies there too.

Split ticketing is where a passenger completes a single journey using two or more
tickets. Total entries and exits at some individual stations will be significantly over
estimated due to some passengers not boarding or alighting at the split point and
instead staying on the train.

From April 2022 to March 2023 year we have introduced an adjustment to account
for split ticketing in the LENNON data. Rail Delivery Group have developed an
algorithm to detect split tickets, and we have incorporated this into our data
processing. Therefore, in the latest year (April 2022 to March 2023) we only count an
entry and exit at the start of the journey and end of the journey, whereas previously
an entry and exit would have been recorded at each split point along the way.

Also of note

Ranger/Rover infills (“Other”) – Rover and Ranger products, e.g. Ride Cornwall,
Cambrian Coaster, Anglia Plus, are tickets with non-geographic destinations so
estimates are developed to represent passenger flows on a selected number of
these tickets;

and for Devoners

The ‘Digby and Sowton’ adjustment (“D&S”) – relates to journeys associated
with a season ticket product for students which are being made to Exeter
Central and Exeter St. David’s on tickets with a recorded destination of Digby
and Sowton. Adjustment uses data provided by Great Western Railway;


And there are some more - some interesting clues in some cases into innovative ticketing.

Re: Harwell laser event
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [370431/31375/31]
Posted by ray951 at 11:20, 2nd January 2026
 
Depending on the cloud ceiling, you may be in sight of this. (Harwell's shining a laser vertically, though fortunately/unfortunately not their biggest and brightest. Not visible from here at a distance of ~47 miles and a not quite low eastern horizon...)

Mark

https://www.harwellcampus.com/harwell-campus-celebrates-turning-80/

**edit** The tech involved: https://www.horizonlasers.co.uk/titan-architectural-laser/

Not surprisingly we could see this in Didcot last night, it wasn't the most exciting light show.

If you get a chance I would recommend visiting Diamond Light Source at Harwell to see what happens there. I would also recommend a visit to the JET (Joint European Torus) Fusion reactor at Culham before it is dismantled.

Re: New Years honours - 2026 - "railway" people
In "Who's who on Western railways" [370430/31350/2]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:19, 2nd January 2026
 
Serena Wiegman for a start....

Re: Point to point passenger numbers since the pandemic
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [370429/31376/51]
Posted by PhilWakely at 11:19, 2nd January 2026
 
I wonder to what extent point-to-point journey figures are distorted by split save? Certainly it feels like it's a long time since I did a journey on XC which wasn't split.

Significantly! As is station footfall sadly! Whilst my local community (can't call it a village any more) of Pinhoe has grown significantly with development over the recent past, the station is a popular split for long distance tickets. The increase in station usage shown in various statistics cannot be just folk genuinely starting and ending their journeys there.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [370428/31359/18]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:16, 2nd January 2026
 
Is that a taxi dropping its sole occupant down at the station rather than at their preferred destination?

Errr......your ticket is to the *station* - not your 'preferred destination'. Taxi drivers are usually required to meter to the station & won't be paid any additional mileage incurred - so don't be surprised if your taxi will only go to the station. This is definitely the case when carrying more than 1 passenger - each passenger can not insist that they are dropped at their 'preferred destination' - but at the station concerned.

Re: New Years honours - 2026 - "railway" people
In "Who's who on Western railways" [370427/31350/2]
Posted by grahame at 11:12, 2nd January 2026
 
Doing a few quick sums, I would suggest that there will be about 30,000 honours holders at any one time (base on numbers here) and that they typically come to more mature people so life expectancy at time of award might be 15 years.    So that's 1 in 2000 of us has an honour.  That looks about right when we look around at member here and contacts, and I take my hat of in respect to those I have the privilege to know. And that includes people who are or have been remunerated for the role played. 

I'm not writing totally "sweetness and light" for the system. There are, I also know, others who would from what I know of them be deserving of a "gong" but haven't been nominated, or if they have turned down / filtered out / declined.  And I do not know - for example - any of ChrisB's suggested athletes for whom the criteria for selection may involve general public perception.

Re: Out with a Wales Explorer ticket 2/1/26
In "Introductions and chat" [370426/31377/1]
Posted by ChrisB at 10:47, 2nd January 2026
 
I thought rovers/rangers with multi-day validity - when printed on 'ordinary' stock - come with a second coupon that had 31 day boxes printed on it, and you completed each day by filling in the box? the mag strip didn't function in the barriers & you had to produce both coupons to staff in order to proceed?

Re: Five major changes planned for Bristol in 2026
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [370425/31372/21]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 10:47, 2nd January 2026
 
I'd agree with Noggin's daughter's analysis.

We need to be clear that private vehicles would not be banned from Park Street by this scheme. Park Street and all its side roads would all be accessible to private cars. Only through traffic would be banned, diverted via Anchor Rd. Here's the map:



Many small retailers believe that cars passing their shop are good for business, and that having heavy traffic outside encourages people walking by to linger or even go in and buy something. Are they right? Or would removing through traffic make this a more attractive place, increasing footfall and bringing more business?

Re: Five major changes planned for Bristol in 2026
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [370424/31372/21]
Posted by Noggin at 09:59, 2nd January 2026
 
Daughter takes the bus along Park Street most days and reckons there's rarely congestion due to private cars - it's mainly the Anchor Road junction at the bottom which backs up.

Also, vehicle access still needs to be provided to Charlotte & Great George Streets where there is considerable residential and office property - Hill Street is not safe for any significant volumes of traffic.

Re: Point to point passenger numbers since the pandemic
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [370423/31376/51]
Posted by Noggin at 09:48, 2nd January 2026
 
I wonder to what extent point-to-point journey figures are distorted by split save? Certainly it feels like it's a long time since I did a journey on XC which wasn't split.

Re: Eurostar - merged posts, ongoing discussion topic
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [370422/26929/52]
Posted by Electric train at 09:38, 2nd January 2026
 
Agreed - that was my reaction, too, when I saw that image. 

To all the 'armchair critics' - it's seriously broken wiring, somewhere down there along a 22 mile railway tunnel, with an understandably broken down train in the way.

That will take some time to fix: it's not as simple as, 'Oh, just push the plug back into the 13amp socket where Aunty Maud has trodden on the flex.'



There may have been more than 1 stranded train, the headways through the tunnel means at least one other train will have lost power other than the one entangled in the OLE

Re: Point to point passenger numbers since the pandemic
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [370421/31376/51]
Posted by Electric train at 09:33, 2nd January 2026
 
From another thread, a site that displays point to point passenger numbers.

The figures for Worcester Shrub Hill to Oxford are wild - a bit of a rollercoaster. But there will probably be other curious examples elsewhere.

https://trainslive.uk/odm/journey.php?origin=WOS&destination=OXF

Mark

It does not surprise that its been a rollercoaster of the last 3 or 4 years, the pandemic certainly accelerated things like "working from home" and "cashless society" I suspect it will take 3 or 4 more years, maybe longer for the actual trends to "normalise".  In a decade or so time the recovery patterns and trends will be a lot clear to understand

Re: Out with a Wales Explorer ticket 2/1/26
In "Introductions and chat" [370420/31377/1]
Posted by grahame at 08:58, 2nd January 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
The ticketing: a Wales explorer, on the trains, has a 4 in 8 day validity, and this one is printed on the ordinary stock, has no machine readable code, so it isn't immediately apparent as to how it will record which days I've used it.

Enjoy!

The magnetic stripe will have a ticket ID on it, and when you scan the barriers at Llanshamlet, Llanwrtyd, Llwyngwril or Llanfairechan it will send a message to TfW HQ that the ticket was used on that day.  So if you try to get onto the platform at Tygwyn for a fifth day, the barrier will bleep.

Re: Christmas and New Year holidays 2025/26 on the Coffee Shop
In "News, Help and Assistance" [370419/31311/29]
Posted by grahame at 08:53, 2nd January 2026
 
My thoughts are ... that I'm very happy with the way things are continuing to evolve, here on the Coffee Shop forum.

Thank you, grahame.

Happy New Year, folks.    You will see even fewer changes than I may have hinted at and I'm really following up just to let you know I have not been idle.    The big talk is AI these day. 

As a provider of unique and excellent content, we have always been "targets" for search engine spiders.  Some of those we encourage but others just eat our bandwidth for no discernible gain - for example, love to be Google indexed but pointless being on Yandex results.   But search engines look like they have just been the starter to the AI indexer main course, where everyone and his uncle who want to be big in AI are collecting data with a fine tooth comb.    I have updated some of my own tools so that can more quickly identify new AI bots, and set myself up a couple of tools which give me ore options in rejecting/accepting/guiding/encouraging them.  Occasional bit hits on the server will still happen - we got 1500 requests in a minute at 5 p.m. yesterday - but identification, action if appropriate, and recovery is now easier for me - which will give me more time for other coding work.

As a user of AI - there are libraries available, and it could be that our searches could be improved. There is *some* intelligence in there already, but providing more might lead to issues of resources on our server, or us buying in to other resources and whilst I will keep listening and keep this under review, we don't yet - nor in the months coming - have a box into which you can type a public transport related question in English and expect a good Coffee Shop result. You will note I have not said "never"

Re: Out with a Wales Explorer ticket 2/1/26
In "Introductions and chat" [370418/31377/1]
Posted by Mark A at 08:52, 2nd January 2026
 
The ticketing: a Wales explorer, on the trains, has a 4 in 8 day validity, and this one is printed on the ordinary stock, has no machine readable code, so it isn't immediately apparent as to how it will record which days I've used it.

Just leaving Cardiff across the Taff, skies are clearing. On train wifi is stable (neither of GWRs on train wifi was working)

Mark

Re: Out with a Wales Explorer ticket 2/1/26
In "Introductions and chat" [370417/31377/1]
Posted by Mark A at 08:38, 2nd January 2026
 
Bailed out of the train from Bristol at Newport a.k.a the house of freezing steel, particularly for staff working the buffet there, as the station's design directs the airflow from the entrance to the bridge straight through their unheated workplace. Now on the toasty and very well lit stopper as far as Carmarthen, so, for the moment, plan 'A' again. Behind this train, the late running GWR service to Carmarthen, now only 15 minutes late after a quick turnaround at BRI.

Mark

Re: Out with a Wales Explorer ticket 2/1/26
In "Introductions and chat" [370416/31377/1]
Posted by Mark A at 07:56, 2nd January 2026
 
Highlight so far, on the approach to Bristol Temple Meads, many cold LEDs to the left of the train, but behind them, this great orb, the nearly full moon, low in the sky and behind trees, an entirely different quality of light.

Also, respect to the chap in the ticket office at Bath Spa, on duty since six am, and at a quarter to seven the rail rover he needed to find for me was his first sale of the day.

Mark

Out with a Wales Explorer ticket 2/1/26
In "Introductions and chat" [370415/31377/1]
Posted by Mark A at 07:43, 2nd January 2026
Already liked by grahame
 
Well, that's the theory. The 07:15 from Bath Spa to Carmarthen is currently half an hour late and passing Freshford: I caught the 06:57 stopper to Bristol (also a 5 carriage IEP) which lived up to its name, waited outside BTM, then crawled to the far end of the station. As I walked back in the direction of the roofed area, a train to Swansea departed but I did make the... ~07:20 stopper to Cardiff (also a 5 car IEP and currently sitting on the approach to Lawrence Hill as the direct train from Bath Spa to Bristol Parkway has contrived to run late but has been allowed to get ahead of this one. The train manager is slightly irked.)

Plan 'A' was to head for Carmarthen and then Shrewsbury via Lampeter and Aberystwyth. That'll be out the window + I'm also intending to visit friends should the chance arise. It might be possible to travel via the H***t of W****s line (and there is also a plan 'C').

Or I could stick to Plan 'A' which would now involve stopping at every station between Bath Spa and Carmarthen which must be some sort of a record.

Mark

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [370414/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 07:25, 2nd January 2026
Already liked by matth1j
 
Here is a summary of yesterday:



1 planned cancellation because (?) it was a public holiday
2 cancellations described as "staff shortage"
6 cancellations described as "fault on this train"
9 services ran

50% cancellation rate

Of note from personal experience

* the 13 minute delay to the 07:21 (2M81) was due to 6M50 (Westbury to Bescot) which passed through Melksham at 07:09 (35 minutes early - it was due at 07:43) but then got held on the single line approaching Thingley, blocking 2M81 on the line approaching Bradford Junction.   At the time the train was due, the display on the platform at Melksham said:


* I was returning to Melksham on 2M30, and arrived into Chippehnam from Bristol (separate story) at 17:34.  I knew to go over to the gateline and ask staff for help.   The announcement system was advising people that the train was cancelled and "The next fastest train will be the 19:00 to Salisbury" - correct advice, but not telling people who didn't want to wait for nearly an hour and a half that they could seek further assistance if they did not want to wait for the train.


Capacity was also limited between Bristol and Bath yesterday afternoon, with single line working on one line while a safety check was made.  Altenate London <-> Bristol trains routed via Bristol Parkway, and just one an hour not 3 running from Westbury to Bristol. One has to wonder as a passenger why one of the trains stuck at Westbury could not have been used in place of the faulty one on the Swindon service.  My taxi driver from Chippehnam was metering his run, and GWR will be invoiced just shy of £45 - not a cheap ride at Bank Holiday rates!

Final thought - why when a train is cancelled does it say "Calling at" on the boards - the whole point is that it is NOT calling at and really it should say "not calling as planned at" should it not?



Re: Some Site Statistics
In "News, Help and Assistance" [370413/10588/29]
Posted by grahame at 06:39, 2nd January 2026
 
Last month I wrote:
2025 has been a steady year - I expected a far more major perturbation from the start of this year with the move from http to https, and from a single server to the receptionist - worker model.

Same graphic, year end so probably the time I should "checkpoint" it



Red - number of posts
Dark blue - number of new threads

The difference in magnitude indicated a healthy follow up rate of an average of 8 follow ups per post (December) or 10 follow ups (August) - good ratios that people are not posting into thin air, but are really reading / being read and answered, and also that members are not nervous about following up.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [370412/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 04:08, 2nd January 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Is that a taxi dropping its sole occupant down at the station rather than at their preferred destination?

Mark

No - that is a taxi dropping three occupants at the station.   On the cusp of a delay-repay claim - 15 minutes late. The taxi was also charged with picking any passenger from Melksham to Trowbridge, so there was logic in him going there. Fuller reports to follow - a very interesting "state of the nation" set of learning journeys!

Point to point passenger numbers since the pandemic
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [370411/31376/51]
Posted by Mark A at 22:19, 1st January 2026
 
From another thread, a site that displays point to point passenger numbers.

The figures for Worcester Shrub Hill to Oxford are wild - a bit of a rollercoaster. But there will probably be other curious examples elsewhere.

https://trainslive.uk/odm/journey.php?origin=WOS&destination=OXF

Mark

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [370410/31359/18]
Posted by Mark A at 22:19, 1st January 2026
 
Is that a taxi dropping its sole occupant down at the station rather than at their preferred destination?

Mark

Re: Harwell laser event
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [370409/31375/31]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 21:59, 1st January 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
During WW II, the UK was way ahead of the Americans in developing the nuclear bomb - code name Tube Alloys.

The Americans having joined in 1941 were interested and learned of our knowledge though the transfer of knowledge and patents (because we were absolutely broke - and had nothing else to sell). Radar was one of these life changing inventions BTW that we gave.

Together, we set up the Manhattan Project that developed the A-bomb that was deployed just before the end of WW II.

After the war, America said that they wished to go completely alone with this technology and kicked us out. So, in order to keep our relevance as a world power, we decided to go alone in the nuclear world and set up our own independent institutions. One of them was Harwell (the brains' trust), already active through Tube Alloys. The others were Windscale (now Sellafield) and Castle Douglas in southern Scotland to provide nuclear material for bombs. Energy production for the nation was a simple side product.

We blew up successful bombs in the centre of Australia and the Americans let us back in. That's where we are now. I don't have a problem with the fantastic science coming out of Harwell - but remember how and why it all started.

Re: Harwell laser event
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [370408/31375/31]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:15, 1st January 2026
 
From the BBC

Beam shone into sky to celebrate science campus

Scientists have beamed a laser into the sky, which is visible from miles around.

The spectacle, known as The Beam, marks the 80th birthday of Harwell Science and Innovation Campus in Oxfordshire.

Harwell was established in 1946 as the UK's first nuclear research laboratory and is currently home to the Diamond Light Source science facility.

Jim Stretton, managing director at Harwell Campus, said: "The Beam honours Harwell's past scientific breakthroughs while signalling the next era of growth and innovation."

Operated by Horizon Lasers, the vertical pillar of light has been described as 2.2 million times more powerful than a typical laser pen.

It is shining from the centre of the Diamond Light Source from 17:00 to 21:00 GMT, and is visible across Oxfordshire, with scientists aiming to reach heights of about 8km (five miles).

Harwell described The Beam as a "visual celebration of the campus' world-leading expertise in light-based science".

It kicks off a year-long series of events, external to mark the anniversary.

Harwell Campus was originally founded as the Atomic Energy Research Establishment and played a major role in the UK's early atomic programme.

From the 1990s onwards it evolved into a wider research campus, eventually growing into a 700-acre site with about 7,000 scientists and engineers across 250 organisations, valued at about £3bn.

It has the UK's largest concentration of national research facilities, including the Diamond Light Source, which has studied advanced treatments of HIV, cancer and the Covid-19 vaccine.

It includes the synchrotron, which speeds electrons up to near the speed of light to produce intense beams of light that can probe matter.

Also at Harwell are the Rosalind Franklin Institute, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, and European Space Agency.

Its Central Laser Facility (CLF) is currently upgrading its most powerful laser, the so-called Vulcan, which will have a power output of 20 petawatts, equivalent to 200 billion kilowatts.

A single pulse will be enough energy to recreate the extreme conditions of deep space, and it is 18 trillion times more powerful than The Beam.

Prof John Collier, director of CLF, said: "The Beam is a powerful reminder of the vital role the national facilities at Harwell Campus continue to play in advancing knowledge, technology and innovation on the world stage."

Prof Gianluigi Botton, chief executive officer at Diamond Light Source, added: "At Diamond, we harness the power of synchrotron light to reveal the structure of everything from viruses and vaccines to new materials and advanced technologies.

"The Beam marks 80 years of discovery and reflects the campus' ongoing commitment to collaboration, innovation, and using light to transform the way we understand the world.

"We're delighted to play our part on New Year's Day in marking this momentous occasion."

 
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