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Re: Travel to the USA - risks of being detained, even as a tourist
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [373126/31660/52]
Posted by grahame at 08:57, 7th March 2026
 
OK - but perhaps worth noting that the original question you posed for the poll was "Will you travel to the USA for a holiday?" -  you've latterly changed that somewhat.

Hope all the family situations resolve themselves and you enjoy your travels, wherever they take you!

You are correct - "topic drift" and perhaps answering a different question to the one I was asked.

I, and Lisa and I, have travelled to the USA for holiday reasons in the past, and also on trips which are primarily holiday but have included meeting up with family and friends.  Most recent (and purely a holiday) in April 2023. As with any trips / holidays, consideration given to the personal circumstances of the travellers and that include personal safety, visas, passports, etc..  And my vote which is "not in the foreseeable future" - and that perhaps means "never again" - holds valid.   I would like to do Amtrak across the continent, I would like to visit Cass again, I would like to see Silvertown and Durango and have another ride on the White Pass, but none of these is sufficiently high up my list top actually do it, especially with all the rigmarole involved.

Time has - resolved and healed - the family situation, thank you. We still have the scars from 30 years ago, but they are carried with a knowledge of how things can go wrong, the protagonist passed away a few years ago, and we are now proud and unencumbered - if physically distant - grandparents.

Re: OTD 21st February (1967) - Shunting with horses
In "Railway History and related topics" [373125/26061/55]
Posted by bradshaw at 08:48, 7th March 2026
 
From 1858 to 1882 the Bridport Railway had to haul the passenger trains the last few yards by horses! There was no run round loop and there or at Maiden Newton. The latter had a gravity siding  to shunt the train. Here the train backed up the siding, the engine ran into the station and onto the branch while the guard brought the train down the siding into the bay.
At Bridport, the train stopped outside the station and the engine was uncoupled and taken to the shed. The shunting horses were attached and drew the train into the platform.

In 1882 the platform line was extended a few yards, they could not afford that before. Now they had the powers build to the harbour and thus could raise the money to pay for this extension. But not before looking at building a new terminus station where East Road crossed the line.
The final decision to build to the harbour was taken shortly after.

The following year saw the contractor’s engine running in steam from the station to the harbour. In steam and with 6 horses to guide it down Barrack Street, East Street, South Street and Harbour Road! Shades of the Titfield Thunderbolt!

Re: Rumours of a new ferry service
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [373124/31717/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 08:45, 7th March 2026
 
I will be interested to see further details.

Oh, so will I. 

May I post here, to the effect that I have probably only continued to quote such ongoing 'news' updates from the BBC, as they enable me to add yet more fresh images of ferries on this forum.
I love ferries. CfN.

Closure of the Somerset and Dorset Railway - 60 years on
In "Railway History and related topics" [373123/31718/55]
Posted by bradshaw at 08:37, 7th March 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
This weekend sees 60 years after the S&DJR was closed. Final passenger trains ran on the 5th, two railtours ran on the 6th and formal closure occurred on the 7th.
I was on one of those railtours, the RCTS one. It ran from Waterloo via Staines then Alton to Poole. Up the S&D to Evercreech and Highbridge behind 41283 and 41249. 34013 took us up the GWR line to Mangotsfield N Jct where D7006 hauled us to Bath Green Park. From there 34013 PLUS 34057 took us back to Templecombe where 35028 was waiting to return us to Waterloo.
The sound of this two pacifics climbing up to Masbury still echoes today!
Yesterday we visited RSPB Ham Wall, a reserve on which we can take the dog and happens to be on the route of the Highbridge branch which allowed Marion to take a photo of me at Ashcott and Meare station 60 years, almost to the hour, since passing it by train!

Re: Person killed by Ickenham Tube was blocked from safety spot - 28 March 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [373122/31715/51]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:23, 7th March 2026
 
Paragraph 68 of the RAIB report:

The toxicology report produced as part of the post-mortem investigations
recorded that the passenger had 282 mg/dL of ethanol in their urine and 265 mg/
dl in their vitreous fluid (which is more reflective of blood alcohol content than
urine). The toxicology report described the effect of this level of alcohol as being
‘associated with confusion, grossly impaired motor function, reduced awareness
and reduced reflexes’ and demonstrates ‘profound intoxication’

Re: Travel to the USA - risks of being detained, even as a tourist
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [373120/31660/52]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:03, 7th March 2026
 
"Would your travel to the USA - now or in the future?

Yes - of course   - 4 (13.8%)
Yes - though not at present   - 1 (3.4%)
Yes - but after careful thought   - 0 (0%)
Maybe at some time in the future   - 5 (17.2%)
Not in the forseeable future   - 11 (37.9%)
No   - 4 (13.8%)
Haven't thought about it   - 4 (13.8%)

My wife Lisa is a dual citizen - originally from the USA, but now more British than American.  And some of my family too emigrated from the UK to the USA some 60 years ago and are now more American than British.  So we are an international family, and this question is about far more than a vacation - it's also about family events. Never the less, in the current climate we do not intend to visit the USA, even for those family events.

We are somewhat "with" family - Lisa's and mine - online and the distance does not feel as great; for sure, we can't pop into the yacht club at Los Alamitos to catch up with my cousins, nor into Roanoke, Long Beach or Naples to catch up with Lisa's siblings, son and family but yet we remain in touch.  Not *just* the political situation and what's going on in the headlined parts of the huge country, but also no desire to fly and as we get older the health issues so far from home, under such tension, and we have an alternative online too. We welcome family here to the UK and to Europe;  I've posted pictures of my cousin and her husband at Dundas and on the Two Tunnels walk, and in a couple of months I'll be meeting up with my other cousin and her husband in the Low Countries.

The world travel situation has changed even since I posted this poll though - so I never say "never".  The changes, this week, are rather in the opposite direction and I am rethinking my late spring / early summer plans to go as far as I can by train across Turkey.  Last year, the heatwave put me off, and I went to the other extreme of Narvik, and I've already been to Faro and Westport at the other extremes by train - Kars, Samsun  and Van may need to wait to a future year.



OK - but perhaps worth noting that the original question you posed for the poll was "Will you travel to the USA for a holiday?" -  you've latterly changed that somewhat.

Hope all the family situations resolve themselves and you enjoy your travels, wherever they take you!

Re: Cardiff -Portsmouth Engineering work 2026
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [373119/31446/20]
Posted by John D at 07:44, 7th March 2026
 
In a piece of unfortunate timing for Bath-Westbury close 2-4 May appears to be the first of really busy cruise weekends at Southampton

Sat 2 May has 3 ships over 13,000 berths (double occupancy) over 17,000 (all berths) doing changeovers

Let's hope replacement buses have lots of suitcase room

Rumours of a new ferry service
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [373118/31717/5]
Posted by CyclingSid at 07:41, 7th March 2026
 
A new ferry service between Sandy Point (Sparkes Marina) on Hayling Island and East Head at West Wittering.

Due to start on 3rd April and will run on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Road access seems ok on the Hayling side, not sure about the Wittering side, possibly restricted by the owners of the massive money-printing car park.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ferry-route-one-sussexs-most-123900701.html

https://www.facebook.com/ChichesterObserver/posts/new-ferry-will-link-west-wittering-with-hayling-island/1344842544327093/

I will be interested to see further details.

Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [373116/569/25]
Posted by a-driver at 07:19, 7th March 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, grahame
 

it's as dry as a Ginsters pasty..


I like that! 

Service has resumed this morning.

Re: China - railway incidents and infrastructure developments (merged topic)
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [373115/7846/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 06:13, 7th March 2026
 
As ever, in the interests of continuity and ease of future reference for our many members and guests, I have now merged several topics relating specifically to China here.

I have retained the original topic headings, wherever possible, and hope this helps.

CfN. 

Re: India: railway services, incidents and rules (merged posts)
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [373114/6221/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 05:34, 7th March 2026
 
In the interests of continuity and ease of future reference, I have now merged several topics - all relating to railways in India - here.

I have retained the original topic headings, wherever possible, and hope this helps.

CfN.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [373113/31359/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 04:34, 7th March 2026
 
Just over an hour late in the end, but the new experience of taking an IET to Melksham made up for it
Presumably it is front two or possibly three coaches for Melksham on an IET?
All the first coach, all the second coach, and front door only on third carriage?

A similar principle applies at Nailsea & Backwell, for any longer trains calling here: 'Front four carriages' - whatever their alpha-numeric designation.

Re: Australia - various railway issues, merged topics and posts
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [373111/5264/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 04:10, 7th March 2026
 
In an attempt to meet your requirement, infoman, I have now merged all previous topics on the Coffee Shop forum relating specifically to 'railways in Australia' here (while retaining the original topic headings within this merged topic).

I do hope you find whatever you are seeking.

CfN. 

Re: Plymouth: River Plym railway bridge work - 21 Feb to 9 Mar 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [373110/31637/24]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 02:38, 7th March 2026
Already liked by Pb_devon
 
From the BBC:

Work on rail bridge expected to finish on time


The River Plym Railway Bridge in Plymouth is set to reopen on 9 March

Work to strengthen a railway bridge so it can carry heavier trains is on track to finish on time despite poor weather, Network Rail has said.

The line between Plymouth and Totnes has been shut since Saturday 21 February for work on the River Plym Railway Bridge. About 180m (591ft) of track is being replaced among other work at a cost of about £6.5m.

Dan Parkes, principal portfolio manager at Network Rail, said the work had been "challenging" in heavy rainfall but the bridge was expected to reopen on Monday morning.

The River Plym bridge, near the A38, is on the main line between London Paddington and Penzance.

Network Rail said 134 steel rail bearers installed between existing cross beams on the bridge and 24 new rail bearers made of synthetic wood were being laid as part of the work. They are designed to last six times longer than the traditional timber bearers they are replacing.

The rail boss said some of the steel work on the bridge had become rusty and corroded. "It needs a really, really good lot of repairs and maintenance to keep it good for the future," Parkes said.

Resurfacing work on the Plymouth-bound platform at Totnes and track and drain maintenance also formed part of the project.


High water levels caused by poor weather has made the work difficult at times

With the agreement of the Marine Management Organisation and the Environment Agency, the river in Plymouth was partially dammed to help with work underneath the bridge. However, recent heavy rainfall has made things difficult.

"There was times coming in through the storms [when] the tide was rising above the parapet on the bridge, it was coming above the dam we installed," Danny Tyrie, site manager with contractor Morgan Sindall, said. "The height of the water was extremely high which obviously made it tougher to work in."

Work has been ongoing on the bridge for several months and will continue for several more when the line is back open.

Trains between Exeter and London, Cardiff and the north of England continue to operate as normal, as do services between Plymouth and Penzance, said Network Rail.

Sharon Holloway, Great Western Railway station manager for Plymouth, said: "Replacement buses will bridge the gaps, but journey times will be longer, and we urge passengers to check before they travel and allow extra time."


Inside the 'chaotic' world of the UK Wife Carrying Race - Surrey, 8 March 2026
In "The Lighter Side" [373109/31716/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 02:11, 7th March 2026
 
From the BBC:

Inside the 'chaotic' world of wife carrying


Dozens of people are expected to take part in the 2026 UK Wife Carrying Race

On Sunday, one of the UK's wackiest races returns, bringing some Scandinavian fun to the Surrey sporting scene.

About 70 people are expected to carry their wives, husbands, partners, friends and family up a hill in the UK's Wife Carrying Race in Dorking, now entering its 17th year with the winners qualifying for the Wife Carrying World Championships in Finland in July. "It's certainly chaotic," says Ian Giles, race director of the UK race. "There are a few familiar faces each year."

While the couple who won the last two years' races are back to defend their crown, competition is on the horizon with a "stacked" couple from the sport's Finnish home. Giles added: "This year we have 35 couples racing and at least another 15 on a waiting list."

Allegedly dating back centuries, wife carrying races involve people putting their partner on their back, front or over their shoulder, and completing a course of hills, hay bales and a "splash zone" of buckets of water and water pistols.

In the UK the practice reportedly links back to the Viking pillage of Lindisfarne. In sporting terms, its roots are in Finland, where the first world championships took place in 1996.

The UK Wife Carrying Race features an "out-and-back" 380m (1,246 ft) course. As with any good sport, there are strict rules to ensure a level playing field.


The course involves a "splash zone" with water buckets and pistols

Contrary to what the sport's name would suggest, you do not have to be married to carry your partner. Carrying friends, partners or siblings are all allowed, but they must be over 18 years-old.

People being carried are weighed prior to the event and must be at least 50kg (110 lbs) - anyone under that must wear a rucksack "filled with tins of flour, water or similar to bring them to the required weight".

Helmets are obligatory for those being carried - fancy dress is expected. The organisers said: "Spectators are encouraged to attend with their own water-pistols and buckets of water to staff the Splash Zone."

"You can use any one of the many recognised holds - bridal carry, piggy-back, shoulder-ride, fireman's carry (across the shoulders), the well-recognised and very fast Estonian Hold (wife hangs upside-down on man's back, legs crossed in front of the man's face) or the not-so-fast but unique Dorking Hold (the reverse Estonian)."

"I'm aware of the dangers - I don't want to drop my girlfriend on her head," says defending UK champion Stuart Johnson.

Johnson has good form despite his concerns - he and partner Hattie Cronin, from Woking, are two-time UK champions, returning to see if lightning strikes thrice.

Johnson and Cronin first entered in 2024 after friends competed the year before and recommended it to them. They come into this year's race as undefeated UK champions.

Johnson said: "The first time we practised it a few times and ran around our local park and with people thinking we were bonkers."


UK Wife Carrying Champion Stuart Johnson, with partner Hattie Cronin on his back

Cronin said: "I didn't say yes initially - Stuart signed up before asking me. Imagine being put in a washing machine, it feels a lot like that." The couple's favoured method is the Estonian hold.

As part of the prize, winners of the UK race receive £250 towards travel costs for the World Championships.

The sport is a different level in Scandinavia, though, Johnson said. "You get these gladiator humans and it looks like they weren't even carrying anything," he said. Despite returning to defend the crown, Giles says there is competition from a Finnish couple coming to upset the odds.

The Scandinavian couple came 27th in the 2025 World Championships, completing the course in one minute and 32 seconds. "I think this year there will be quite a lot of pressure - they look absolutely stacked," he said.

The UK Wife Carrying Race takes place on Sunday at 10:15 GMT at The Nower in Dorking, ahead of the Leith Hill half marathon.

Spectators are being encouraged to arrive on foot or by public transport, and bring their buckets and water pistols too, of course.


(My highlighting. CfN. )


Person killed by Ickenham Tube was blocked from safety spot - 28 March 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [373108/31715/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 01:42, 7th March 2026
 
From the BBC:

Person killed by Tube was blocked from safe spot


The passenger was killed at Ickenham station in west London last March

A passenger who fell onto a London Underground track was unable to avoid being hit and killed by a train due to communication cables preventing them moving to a place of safety, an investigation has found.

CCTV showed the passenger was aware a train was approaching at Ickenham station, west London, before they were struck at about 22:30 GMT on 28 March 2025.

Neither station staff nor the driver had seen the passenger, the Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) report said. The train's brakes automatically applied as it pulled away due to its safety system coming into contact with the passenger, who was then discovered.

Transport for London (TfL) said it "fully supported" the investigation.

The passenger, whom the RAIB described as vulnerable, lay undiscovered for two minutes on the track after losing their balance. Before being struck, they tried to move from the track bed to the under-platform recess but this was blocked by communication cables.

The platform lighting created a sharp contrast with the darker track bed and the passenger was dressed in dark clothing, making them harder to detect, investigators found.


The passenger took nearly four minutes to descend the stairs, falling six times

Last year, an inquest ruled that a man who had been run over by seven Tube trains at Stratford station died accidentally. The coroner later said that two years on from his death "there is no clear evidence to demonstrate that risks of fatal harm have been mitigated".

On this occasion, the RAIB made three recommendations to TfL:
- Review and update safety standards for under‑platform recesses so they can reliably provide a safe space
- Complete platform‑specific risk assessments
- Identify and evaluate safety measures to reduce platform‑fall risks


Ickenham station first opened in 1905

London Underground policy states that drug and alcohol testing of staff should occur "as soon as possible after a dangerous incident" but the testers arrived at 01:05, one minute before the train operator's finish time.

The investigators wrote: "By the time the testers arrived, the train operator's manager had already arranged for a taxi to take the train operator home, at the end of their shift, in the interests of their welfare. While there is no evidence that the train operator was impaired by drugs or alcohol, RAIB observes that London Underground did not follow its own processes for testing staff following a serious accident."

Nick Dent, TfL's director of customer operations said his thoughts were "with the family and friends of the person who sadly died" and it had conducted its own internal investigation. He said: "We are considering the recommendations from the RAIB and will be taking forward action to address them, along with the recommendations from our own internal review. Safety remains our top priority and we are acting to ensure that our customers are safe when travelling on our network."


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [373107/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 21:46, 6th March 2026
 
20:06 off Westbury this evening ... left a minute late to maintain a connection with the 18:36 from Paddington; sensible decision.   At Melksham, 10 off and 12 on which is very much more than I might have guessed; I did not walk through the train and have no idea of what the through count was.   Our trains seem to be getting busier.

Re: Ticket Booking sites
In "Fare's Fair" [373106/31713/4]
Posted by Surrey 455 at 20:16, 6th March 2026
 
SWR have a Mixing Desk too. No idea if it will still be around in the future.

https://tickets.southwesternrailway.com/sw/en/JourneyPlanning/MixingDeck

Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [373105/569/25]
Posted by grahame at 20:11, 6th March 2026
Already liked by a-driver, Mark A
 
Route proving train for the Looe branch planned for this afternoon (06/03/26)

From Social media, public post ...
Don't need a snorkel anymore then
reply from one of the crew
it's as dry as a Ginsters pasty..

Re: Storing petrol
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [373102/22213/51]
Posted by broadgage at 19:03, 6th March 2026
 
Last time heating oil increased substantially in price, a rumour was spread that electric heating was cheaper (it was not).
 Large numbers of sheeple used multiple electric heaters instead of oil central heating in the forlorn hope of saving money.
As a result numerous power cuts occurred as the distribution system was overloaded.


Re: Ticket Booking sites
In "Fare's Fair" [373100/31713/4]
Posted by Kernow Otter at 17:58, 6th March 2026
 
The story is that it's a forced change for GWR (and some others) as their supplier, Wordline IT, is withdrawing from this market. However, Wordline do use the same engine on their own booking site, respottedhanky, at least for the time being.

Dare I ask if this change will stay into 'nationalisation', or will GWR customers have to migrate onto another state run booking system in due course?

Re: Australian question
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [373099/5264/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:34, 6th March 2026
Already liked by grahame
 
Hmm.  I rather think you will be unlucky in looking for any forum which deals 'exclusively' with 'Australian train issues only', infoman.

Here on the Coffee Shop forum, where we have always been based on railway issues in the south and west of England and Wales in the United Kingdom, we nevertheless also cover 'train issues in Australia'.

A 'Google search' offers some suggestions for you.


Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [373098/569/25]
Posted by a-driver at 14:59, 6th March 2026
 
Route proving train for the Looe branch planned for this afternoon (06/03/26)




Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [373097/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 13:39, 6th March 2026
 
Just over an hour late in the end, but the new experience of taking an IET to Melksham made up for it

Presumably it is front two or possibly three coaches for Melksham on an IET?

All the first coach, all the second coach, and front door only on third carriage?

 
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