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Re: Bristol Rail Campaign (FoSBR) AGM
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [369810/31295/34]
Posted by grahame at 06:21, 20th December 2025
 
Could the AGM not be held during day light hours like GWR and Travel watch South West do?

I get a feeling of "deja vu" with this topic - think we have been there before.  However, times move on.  You're correct in saying that TWSW is daytime, and the recent Railfuture meeting in Yatton was too.  Those were choices made to help people attend, and on open invite.  Did we see you at either meeting though?

I am a Bristol Rail Campaign member and may come along on 11th March - and I will be posting up other March meeting dates today. Typically evenings for local campaign groups so that people don't have to take a day off work / college to attend, and daytime for meetings with a larger area catchment where some people need to travel a considerable distance to attend.

Re: Bristol Rail Campaign (FoSBR) AGM
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [369809/31295/34]
Posted by infoman at 05:42, 20th December 2025
 
Could the AGM not be held during day light hours like GWR and Travel watch South West do?

Re: Problems with IET trains from April 2021
In "Across the West" [369808/24934/26]
Posted by broadgage at 04:53, 20th December 2025
 
Are FGW still maintaining that the IETs are much more reliable than the HSTs ?

 

Re: Caledonian MacBrayne ferries in Scotland
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [369807/30034/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 04:47, 20th December 2025
 
Another update, from the BBC:

CalMac ferry Glen Rosa delayed again by up to six months


MV Glen Rosa, seen here leaving dry dock in Greenock, will have to return for a longer docking to fix corrosion problems

The delivery date for MV Glen Rosa - the second of two dual-fuel ferries being built for CalMac - has been pushed back by up to another six months.

The state-owned Ferguson shipyard said corrosion had been discovered during recent inspections and the ship will require an extra period in dry dock next year.

In a letter to MSPs, it said that would have a knock-on effect on commissioning the ferry, and it was now aiming to deliver it in the final three months of next year.

In a separate update, ferries body CMAL confirmed that MV Isle of Islay, the first of four CalMac ferries being built in Turkey, faces another short delay and will not be handed over this year.

MV Glen Rosa and its sister vessel MV Glen Sannox were meant to enter service in 2018 but the build has been plagued by design challenges and disputes over costs which saw the firm fall back into administration and nationalised.

The second of the hybrid propulsion ships has been moored at the quayside of the Port Glasgow shipyard for fitting out work since its slipway launch in April last year.

At the time of the launch it was hoped it would be handed over this autumn as it was in a far more complete state than Glen Sannox, famously sent down the slipway seven years earlier with painted-on windows and plywood funnels.


(BBC article continues)


Contactless - not always the cheapest
In "Fare's Fair" [369806/31297/4]
Posted by grahame at 04:32, 20th December 2025
 
https://www.railfuture.org.uk/display4218 - Railfuture press release

Offering the option for contactless payment for rail travel is a good thing – convenient and simple. But it currently comes with a number of stings in the tail, so if a traveller wants to pay the lowest price for their travel, contactless payment often doesn’t deliver the best price

"Never have a simple system if you can have a complicated one"?? ... finding the lowest cost fare for your journey looks like it's going to be a topic that keeps on running ...

Walking between stations - AQ20
In "The Lighter Side" [369805/31296/30]
Posted by grahame at 03:57, 20th December 2025
 
I often walk between stations, and these days Google will often give directions for a suggested route (not always the one I take) including a gradient profile.  I classify this as a "difficult" quiz - wonder if anyone can identify these walks from their profiles; all are UK and two of them are within GWRland

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5

Re: King Charles pours 'perfect pint' at new Guinness brewery in London - Dec 2025
In "Introductions and chat" [369804/31289/1]
Posted by grahame at 03:42, 20th December 2025
 
Chat, surely? Is there a transport element in this story? Hardly 'The West' either?

This has lead to an interesting discussion within the moderator team.  "Chat" is fine - perhaps "And Also" is even better, as that's a members-only board. Items posted there don't dilute our transport focus for the search engines, and allow us to let our hair down a bit more between friends.   I have certainly been tempted to post, from time to time, amusing non-transport topics that aren't specific to the region or anything else, but as webmaster I have been aware of the ultimate standard I must / should set and have refrained.  After this discussion, you may find the occasional post such as "Charlotte Church does not wear deodorant" in "And Also".

Re: Temple Meads station approach road
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [369803/31280/21]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 23:11, 19th December 2025
 

...extend Platform 1 to accommodate 5 car trains...


Correction: 6-car.

Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [369802/31028/51]
Posted by stuving at 22:56, 19th December 2025
 
What the RAIB say is that the system was fully operational and reporting sensor movement to the monitoring centre of the company that built and ran it. Network Rail had not signed it off as operational, meaning that alarm reports were not being sent on to their control centre. And no, I don't understand that either. Among the many things we don't know is whether the company would have picked up movement reports and forwarded them to NR - academic since there were no such reports.

The most likely system I can find mention of online (and which is used by NR in other places) has tilt sensors on poles, reporting to a local concentrator box, which sends reports on to the company HQ. If the poles are about 1m tall, that would fit with the highest movement threshold of 90 cm. However, reporting greater movements would depend on the ability to transmit while lying flat, at risk of being at least wet and muddy if not (as observed here) buried. I'd need more detail about the radios and antennas to say any more about why what looks like a serious omission took place.

A tilt sensor measures sideways offset from the base of the pole, which might itself move, so the relationship of that offset to the earth slippage is not at all straightforward. Initially, the sensor movement is a lot bigger than the movement of the ground at any depth. Note that the words do talk about monitoring the positions of the sensors, not of the ground, suggesting either tilt or distance from another transponder is being measured.

Battery lifetime requirements constrain how often reports can be sent, and I guess the concentrator/relay box has to be solar powered since any mobile phone (even GPRS, still used for this kind of thing) has to cover a longer distance and is much more power-hungry. The collective report sent on obviously could include an item for each sensor, and I'd expect that in every report - after all, it's only a bit or two each. But, again, how the operators would or should have reacted to two sensors going AWOL is unknown.

Bristol Rail Campaign (FoSBR) AGM
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [369801/31295/34]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 22:54, 19th December 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Bristol Rail Campaign (FoSBR) will be holding their AGM on Weds 11th March 2026

This year's AGM will be held at Watershed, 1 Canons Road Bristol BS1 5TX (https://www.watershed.co.uk/)

Doors open 19.00 for 19.30 start.

Speakers and further details will be announced in due course.

Non-members welcome.

Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [369799/31028/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:28, 19th December 2025
Already liked by Andy E
 
I am also unsure if the sensors were set up to broadcast an 'All Right' signal on a regular basis that would be the foundation of a fail-safe system.

Yep, me too. AIUI, it was set up to transmit on movement - but a very slow creep wasn't enough to activate it, and the major movement happened so quick to bury transmitters before they could react. If they had been commissioned.

Re: 19th Advent Quiz - Old Pictures - where are they?
In "The Lighter Side" [369798/31292/30]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 20:22, 19th December 2025
 
5. Carmarthen

It is always nice to see a tank engine sporting express headlamps 

Re: Cornish delays
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [369797/28556/25]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 20:15, 19th December 2025
 
For those of us who don't have otters in our garden, have you a more general comparison?

I think he is referring to a fish's wallet.

Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [369796/31028/51]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 20:14, 19th December 2025
 
To be fair, if it was commissioned, I am unsure if the system would have noticed the cessation of expected signal and raised an alarm. They discovered the hiding of the alarm signal as they uncovered the sensors during clean-up.

I am also unsure if the sensors were set up to broadcast an 'All Right' signal on a regular basis that would be the foundation of a fail-safe system.

Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [369795/31028/51]
Posted by grahame at 19:49, 19th December 2025
 
Because apparently it hadn't been commissioned & wasn't able to file reports....

....and then the land slid so as to cover the transmitters so they couldn't transmit if they had been commissioned....

So expect line closures to check every so often going forward until better technology can be developed

Strikes me that they may not have been fail safe - a system which is constantly monitoring and sound the alarm if it doesn't respond to a ping.  But amazing is the system doesn't work like that it - "schoolboy error" if it doesn't.

Re: Cornish delays
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [369794/28556/25]
Posted by grahame at 19:41, 19th December 2025
 
It has been wetter than an otter's pocket here over the last week.

For those of us who don't have otters in our garden, have you a more general comparison?

Re: Cornish delays
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [369792/28556/25]
Posted by Kernow Otter at 19:29, 19th December 2025
Already liked by grahame, Chris from Nailsea
 
It has been wetter than an otter's pocket here over the last week.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2025
In "TransWilts line" [369791/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 19:19, 19th December 2025
 
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06

20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06 will be terminated at Gloucester.
It will no longer call at Cheltenham Spa.
This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident.

Re: What is happening at Dilton Marsh? Key service reduction!
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [369790/31284/20]
Posted by grahame at 18:31, 19th December 2025
 
I will follow up here to let members know the answers.

Received this afternoon ... will follow up with further follow up(s).  So far, so good
I did see some previous correspondents reference to the new timetable for Dilton Marsh. [redcated] may be a bit closer to it. I’ll have a look and get back to you by Monday.

Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [369788/31028/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 17:49, 19th December 2025
 
Because apparently it hadn't been commissioned & wasn't able to file reports....

....and then the land slid so as to cover the transmitters so they couldn't transmit if they had been commissioned....

So expect line closures to check every so often going forward until better technology can be developed

Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [369786/31028/51]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 17:37, 19th December 2025
 
The Urgent Safety Advice by the RAIB is here.

Inadequate Remote Monitoring Equipment.

Re: Bus and train timetables for Melksham to May 2026
In "TransWilts line" [369785/31293/18]
Posted by matth1j at 17:30, 19th December 2025
Already liked by grahame
 
Also, I think the 2nd picture does hint that Melksham has done well for Christmas lights. Personally I'm not particularly keen on that very artificial tree, but there is a natural one not far from it. And the lights down the high street look really nice/festive. Well done to all the volunteers that did most (all?) of the putting up.

Re: Bus and train timetables for Melksham to May 2026
In "TransWilts line" [369783/31293/18]
Posted by Mark A at 17:12, 19th December 2025
 
Looking closely, love the cloud of midges above the right hand reindeer, very realistic and great attention to detail.

Mark

Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [369781/31028/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:56, 19th December 2025
 
An update, from the BBC:

Future Cumbria rail landslides 'may not be detected' says inquiry


Network Rail has been told to take urgent steps to mitigate future risks

Equipment to keep the rail network safe from landslides may not be able to properly detect the risk of future slope failures, an investigation has found.

A Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) inquiry into the derailment of an Avanti West Coast train at Shap, in Cumbria, on 3 November found lineside monitoring equipment used by Network Rail may miss other potential incidents.

There have been a number of landslides in Cumbria near the rail network with one on Thursday which caused disruption.

Network Rail said it will continue to work closely with the RAIB as part of its investigation and it is new technology to monitor conditions.

RAIB has told the organisation, infrastructure managers and companies supplying or monitoring relevant equipment to take urgent steps to consider and mitigate risks.

A spokesperson for Network Rail said: "We have one of the safest railways in the world and the safety of passengers and our colleagues remains our first priority. With extreme weather conditions becoming more frequent for all infrastructure managers, Network Rail is increasingly using new technology to monitor and report on the conditions of our embankments and cuttings, assessing areas for further development."


The Glasgow to London train derailment left four out of 87 people on board with minor injuries

The RAIB report said: "Lineside monitoring equipment used on Network Rail-managed infrastructure may not be able to detect the failure of slopes in some circumstances. As a result, this equipment may not provide data as expected to support safety decision-making, particularly during extreme weather conditions."

Network Rail said they fully support the RAIB's report and will work with their "supply chain to put the RAIB's safety advice into practice, strengthening the performance of sensor equipment where necessary."

"Over the next four years across the North West, Network Rail has already committed to investing £30m on earthworks and £68m on drainage to ensure our railway stays safely on the move during adverse weather," a Network Rail spokesperson added.

The Glasgow to London train derailment in November left four out of 87 people on board with minor injuries, North West Ambulance Service said.

Network Rail, which looks after the track, said the precise cause of the 11-carriage train's derailment was still being investigated but operations director Sam MacDougall said early indications suggested the train had hit a landslip.

Immediately after the derailment, passengers were taken to the nearby Shap Wells Hotel before being transferred to two coaches - one heading to London and the other to Scotland.


Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [369780/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 16:28, 19th December 2025
 
Friday December 19

1W01 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford (12:46) : departed +28 (late arrival of incoming stock), arrived Great Malvern +28 and cancelled thereafter.

13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:24 will be started from Great Malvern.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:19/12/2025 12:18

 
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