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Track defect at Plymouth
In "London to the West" [368347/31121/12]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:11, 19th November 2025
 
Any idea why it's taking so long to resolve this one?

Delays to services at Plymouth
Due to a speed restriction over defective track at Plymouth trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines.
Train services running through this station may be delayed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 22/11/25.

Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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A speed restriction has been imposed on the approach to Plymouth station on the line from Exeter St David's, this is due to a defect being identified.
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What are we doing about it?
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We are working with Network Rail to be able to return to running our normal timetable as soon as possible

Re: Paddington to Bristol <-> service updates and amendments - ongoing discussion
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [368346/18525/10]
Posted by matth1j at 14:10, 19th November 2025
 
1530 Bristol - Paddington cancelled (no reason given on National Rail).

Re: Split ticket - what are the rules is a stop at the split point is withdrawn?
In "Fare's Fair" [368345/31118/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 13:56, 19th November 2025
 
from BR fares / stated as fares until 6th December.  Are there changes (usually in an upwards direction) at that date?

Interesting - I know that all Manchester's fares that fall under the Mayor are mainly reducing & simplifying at that date too - so whether the fare change date that used to carry the main annual rise (now in March each year I believe) has moved from early January to the first week in December, I know not. It seems likely

Re: Show unread posts since last visit - MARK ALL MESSAGES AS READ
In "News, Help and Assistance" [368344/31120/29]
Posted by ChrisB at 13:43, 19th November 2025
Already liked by matth1j
 
My understanding is that it marks ALL unread messages as 'Read', not just those being displayed. It is dangerous, and you can miss messages using it. Use with care.

Hopefully, I'll be corrected....

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [368343/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 13:27, 19th November 2025
 
Wednesday November 19

09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be terminated at Great Malvern.
It is being delayed at Reading.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:19/11/2025 12:14
Delayed Reading (+34), held Evesham (+52), ...

13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:24 will be started from Great Malvern.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:19/11/2025 12:14

Show unread posts since last visit - MARK ALL MESSAGES AS READ
In "News, Help and Assistance" [368342/31120/29]
Posted by matth1j at 13:18, 19th November 2025
 
Apologies if this is covered elsewhere, but regarding the "MARK ALL MESSAGES AS READ" link on the "Show unread posts since last visit" page...

Can I just check that it only marks all the messages currently displayed on my screen as read, and doesn't include any messages that have been posted since the page was displayed? That is, there's no danger of messages that I'm unaware of as being marked as read, and consequently missed (unless I use the "Recent posts" link)?

Re: Multiple stabbings on a London bound train in Cambridgeshire - 01 Nov 25
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368341/31017/51]
Posted by matth1j at 13:08, 19th November 2025
 
BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dr9d7p102o

A 32-year-old man accused of stabbing 10 people on a train has been charged with further offences related to the day before the attack.

British Transport Police (BTP) said Anthony Williams, of no fixed abode, had been charged with seven other offences, including two counts of attempted murder, after an investigation.

Mr Williams is already charged with 10 counts of attempted murder in relation to a mass stabbing on a Doncaster to London King's Cross service on the evening of 1 November, which stopped in Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire.

BTP said the further charges related to alleged incidents in Peterborough, Stevenage, and on a train travelling between Hitchin and Biggleswade on 31 October.

Mr Williams is due to appear at Peterborough Magistrates' Court later, charged with the following:
  • Attempted murder of a 14-year-old boy at Henry Penn Walk in Peterborough
  • Attempted grievous bodily harm of a 28-year-old man at Viersen Platz in Peterborough
  • Attempted murder of a 22-year-old man near Pleasure Fair Meadow Road in Peterborough
  • Affray and possession of a bladed article in connection to an alleged incident at Ritzy Barbers in Peterborough
  • Theft of knives from an Asda supermarket in Stevenage
  • Common assault of a 31-year-old man onboard a train travelling between Hitchin and Biggleswade.

Deputy Chief Constable Stuart Cundy, for BTP, said the investigation into the Huntingdon incident "had also focused on other offences previously reported to police or identified by our investigation".

"We have worked closely with our colleagues in Cambridgeshire and Hertfordshire Police, alongside the Crown Prosecution Service, to bring these charges," he said.

Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368340/31117/51]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 13:06, 19th November 2025
 
From my googlings Bow Brickhill is about midway between Bedford and Woburn Sands - just over 3km from each.

Bedford and Woburn Sands

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...or even Bletchley!

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It's single track at Fenny Stratford and over the motorway and that's a real bottleneck for a less used station.   It's doubled by Bow Brickhill.  You will note from the map of Bow Brickhill that there is no obvious easy walking route to the next station; as I suspect is not an entire surprise, perhaps that one should be saved?

Able-bodied people will walk about 1km to a station, or 1.6 at a push. Anything beyond that needs a bus. But the post-Beeching experience of permanently replacing rail services with buses is that these services don't last long.


Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368339/31117/51]
Posted by grahame at 12:15, 19th November 2025
 
From my googlings Bow Brickhill is about midway between Bedford and Woburn Sands - just over 3km from each.

Bedford and Woburn Sands

Closing small local stations to speed up through services is very redolent of the Beeching era. The natural instinct for many of us is to resist this. But others argue that to improve the speed and reliability of these services this is a price worth paying.

Agreed

It seems clear from EWR's analysis that retaining these stations would greatly compromise their business case for Oxford - Cambridge services. There would not be enough paths for the fast trains, and few paths for local trains. That's the central conundrum of a two-track railway.

It's single track at Fenny Stratford and over the motorway and that's a real bottleneck for a less used station.   It's doubled by Bow Brickhill.  You will note from the map of Bow Brickhill that there is no obvious easy walking route to the next station; as I suspect is not an entire surprise, perhaps that one should be saved?

Fallen Tree delay - 19/11/25
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368338/31119/9]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 12:01, 19th November 2025
 
Cancellations to services between Didcot Parkway and Reading
Due to an obstruction on the track between Didcot Parkway and Reading fewer trains are able to run on some lines.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed by up to 30 minutes. Disruption is expected until 13:45 19/11.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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We have reports of a train striking a tree.
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What are we doing about it?

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We are working with Network Rail to be able to return to running our normal timetable as soon as possible.
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Last Updated:19/11/2025 11:56

Re: Split ticket - what are the rules is a stop at the split point is withdrawn?
In "Fare's Fair" [368337/31118/4]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:54, 19th November 2025
Already liked by grahame, Mark A
 
If it’s in the timetable and altered at short notice, I’m sure common sense would apply.

If it became a ‘permanent’ change as a result of a new timetable, then a “This train used to stop at Newbury!” excuse might not go down quite as well.

Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368336/31117/51]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 11:43, 19th November 2025
 
From my googlings Bow Brickhill is about midway between Bedford and Woburn Sands - just over 3km from each.

Closing small local stations to speed up through services is very redolent of the Beeching era. The natural instinct for many of us is to resist this. But others argue that to improve the speed and reliability of these services this is a price worth paying.

It seems clear from EWR's analysis that retaining these stations would greatly compromise their business case for Oxford - Cambridge services. There would not be enough paths for the fast trains, and few paths for local trains. That's the central conundrum of a two-track railway.




Re: Advertising of misleading minimum pricing which i scarcely available
In "Fare's Fair" [368335/31116/4]
Posted by grahame at 11:39, 19th November 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
And from comments on the BBC article ... this one has 12 likes and 0 dislikes so far

Comment by millkeeper at 11:14
millkeeper
11:14

I'm surprised this hasn't included rail companies and airlines who all say prices from but there are so few of those seats available they shouldn't be able to advertise like this

Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368334/31117/51]
Posted by grahame at 11:15, 19th November 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Bow Brickhill, 13274

Okay so it's not exactly London Waterloo but that's still a not inconsiderable passenger footfall and in a different league to the others proposed for closure.  I don't know the area so I'm wondering if the closure is more to do with a conveniently nearby alternative station being available rather than lack of use.

That one astonished me ... and, no, no other stations near to all the places people want to go as I did just to the north of the line.    I wonder if it's a "planner's compromise" station - they don't really want to close it, but put it in the plans to focus the inevitable outcry about closures onto it, and then they can be seen to give way to the public and save it - "look - we listened" while going ahead with the real original plan which was to close the other four while the focus is on Bow Brickhill.


Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368333/31117/51]
Posted by johnneyw at 11:06, 19th November 2025
 
Bow Brickhill, 13274

Okay so it's not exactly London Waterloo but that's still a not inconsiderable passenger footfall and in a different league to the others proposed for closure.  I don't know the area so I'm wondering if the closure is more to do with a conveniently nearby alternative station being available rather than lack of use.

Split ticket - what are the rules is a stop at the split point is withdrawn?
In "Fare's Fair" [368332/31118/4]
Posted by grahame at 11:00, 19th November 2025
 
08:35 Plymouth to London Paddington due 12:05 will no longer call at Newbury.

There is a very much used ticket split at Newbury from Pewsey into Paddington.  Where a stop like this is withdrawn, does it mean that split tickets are no longer valid?


Pewsey to Paddington return - £68.10 off peak, £51.20 super off peak
Pewsey to Newbury day return - £11.60 anytime, £11.50 off peak
Newbury to Paddington - off peak day return £37.30

from BR fares / stated as fares until 6th December.  Are there changes (usually in an upwards direction) at that date?

Re: Mid Cornwall Metro - Newquay, St Austell, Truro & Falmouth
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [368331/27102/25]
Posted by GBM at 10:42, 19th November 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
The BBC now have a similar article
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9k1z8d20wo
Second platform opens at station after 40 years
A second platform has opened at a Cornish railway station for the first time in nearly 40 years as part of a £50m infrastructure project.

Newquay station has only had one platform in use since October 1987, when a signal box closed.

........continues..........

Re: Problems with IET trains from April 2021
In "Across the West" [368330/24934/26]
Posted by GBM at 10:16, 19th November 2025
 
Two 5 cars out today
07:10 Penzance to London Paddington due 12:29
Facilities on the 07:10 Penzance to London Paddington due 12:29.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.

And
08:35 Plymouth to London Paddington due 12:05
08:35 Plymouth to London Paddington due 12:05 will no longer call at Newbury.
This is due to overcrowding as this train has fewer coaches than normal.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.

Re: Post Office Railway (Mail Rail), past, present and future
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [368329/9792/47]
Posted by grahame at 09:26, 19th November 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
An old article has just crossed my path ... including a map of proposed extensions ...

https://frankedmail.co.uk/mail-rail-map/



The map above shows the route of London’s Post Office Railway (better known as Mail Rail) in 1929. It operated beneath London’s streets from 1927 until finally shutting down in 2003.

Only the central section (solid black line above) was ever actually opened, since all the other extensions failed to materialise.

At its peak it had 8 stations and ran for a total of 6.5 miles (10.5 km) between Paddington’s Head District Sorting Office in the west and Whitechapel’s Eastern Head District Sorting Office in the east.

Re: Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368328/31117/51]
Posted by grahame at 09:17, 19th November 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Passenger numbers for the 2023/24 year at the five stations mentioned as closure candidates

Fenny Stratford, 6420 - https://www.passenger.chat/FEN.html
Bow Brickhill, 13274 - https://www.passenger.chat/BWB.html
Aspley Guise, 3320, https://www.passenger.chat/APG.html
Millbrook, 2312, https://www.passenger.chat/MLB.html
Kempston Hardwick, 2296, https://www.passenger.chat/KMH.html

Way, way back I would have been included in passenger numbers at Fenny Stratford and Bow Brickhill, staying at a hotel on the A5 and working for the week - commuting - to Bow Brickhill.  The Martston Vale line has a chequered history of train reliability to put it mildly; although my particular journey was a very short one, the presence of a major road between my hotel and the Red Bull (motor racing) place made it impractical to do any other way.

Closure proposal - five intermediate stations on Marston Vale line
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368327/31117/51]
Posted by grahame at 08:59, 19th November 2025
 
From Construction News

East West Rail (EWR) has confirmed its plan to cut five rail stations and rebuild four on a Bedfordshire line.

Following a consultation earlier this year, the Department for Transport (DfT) decided that revamping the Marston Vale line would “better serve local communities” in the area.

The DfT said the stations on the line have “some of the lowest usage in the country”.

The department expects to rebuild stations at Woburn Sands, Ridgmont, Lidlington and Stewartby. The latter will also serve the Universal theme park – a multibillion-pound entertainment complex that is expected to open in 2031.

A spokesperson for Universal Destinations and Experiences (UDX) – which will run the resort – said the government’s commitment to using multimodal approaches to grow the UK economy was “highly encouraging, as companies like UDX look to place major investments in the UK”.

Stations at Fenny Stratford, Bow Brickhill, Aspley Guise, Millbrook and Kempston Hardwick will be closed.

Re: Exeter to Barnstaple "commute from hell"
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [368326/31055/24]
Posted by ChrisB at 08:56, 19th November 2025
 
I know it says train crew,but would it require a guard as well,considering it had Network rail staff on board

The word "Traincrew" includes drivers & Train managers/guards.....

Re: Pilning Station - where are we, and looking at future options (May 2025)
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [368325/30237/21]
Posted by grahame at 08:16, 19th November 2025
Already liked by Western Pathfinder, Witham Bobby, GBM
 

Has Christmas Come Early To Pilning....
Remains to be seen..

However a very big Thankyou to Network Rail and GWR is deserved

My understanding is that at the end of a franchise / contract, the operator is required to return stations leased to the same maintenance standard as when they took them over, and Pilning has been getting to be a bit of an eyesore - was it 2006 or even earlier it became the responsibility of First Group?  Not sure if it was them or Wales and West / Wessex before that?

Christmas would, in my view, be a return to the facilities of those days which includes a second platform to similar standards, but I would be happy with a temporary compromise of a couple of trains every day running "wrong line" from the Patchway / Filton area to the Pilning crossover, providing passenger services from Bristol and to Wales at around 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. with similar calls in the other direction.

Advertising of misleading minimum pricing which i scarcely available
In "Fare's Fair" [368324/31116/4]
Posted by grahame at 08:05, 19th November 2025
 
From The BBC

Adverts by four of Britain's biggest hotel and travel firms have been banned for stating misleading minimum prices for rooms.

The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) upheld complaints against the Hilton hotel group, Travelodge, Booking.com and Accor over their use of eye-catching so-called "from" prices.

The watchdog found only a small number of rooms actually available to book at the promoted price and concluded the adverts overstated the deals.

My biggest expense when I travel afar is not the train fares (which I manage to research downwards on many occasions), but accommodation costs - but I do sometimes look at adverts for excellent pubic transport fares and all too often find they have very limited availability.  Have others experienced this?

Re: Mid Cornwall Metro - Newquay, St Austell, Truro & Falmouth
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [368323/27102/25]
Posted by grahame at 07:46, 19th November 2025
Already liked by Andy, Mark A, IndustryInsider, alexross42, GBM, Witham Bobby
 
From Radio Newquay and with a picture of a 150 in the new platform

Second platform reopens after nearly four decades

Newquay has begun using a second railway platform for the first time in 38 years, as trains return to the branch line following Network Rail engineering work.

The station has operated with a single platform since the signal box closed in October 1987. The introduction of digital signalling has allowed both platforms to be used at the same time. The upgrade forms part of preparations for the Mid Cornwall Metro (MCM), which will see an hourly service between Newquay and Par introduced next year. A direct link to Falmouth, via Par, St Austell and Truro, is planned to follow.

Digital signalling, controlled from Goonbarrow signal box, replaces the previous “token” system that restricted the single-track line to one train at a time. Network Rail’s work also includes a passing loop at Goss Moor, track replacement near St Blazey and refurbishment of the 152-year-old Ponts Mill viaduct.

Re: Exeter to Barnstaple "commute from hell"
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [368322/31055/24]
Posted by bradshaw at 07:23, 19th November 2025
 
RTT indicates it ran as 5R88 and also that some trains ran yesterday evening, starting with the 17.15 from Exeter Central
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:BNP/2025-11-18/0200-0159?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [368321/29650/26]
Posted by NickB at 07:00, 19th November 2025
 
Cancellations to services between Twyford and Maidenhead
Due to a fault with the signalling system between Twyford and Maidenhead trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines towards London Paddington bound local stopping.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 08:00 19/11.

Re: Exeter to Barnstaple "commute from hell"
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [368320/31055/24]
Posted by grahame at 06:58, 19th November 2025
 
I know it says train crew,but would it require a guard as well,considering it had Network rail staff on board

It ran under a "5Z" head code - 3 minutes early off Barnstaple (allowed to be early on non-passenger duty) but was already 51 minutes late by Umbereigh - probably because they stopped to check bridges, etc, on that early stretch.    They were as much as 67 minutes late by Morchard Road, but recovered 4 minutes into Exeter.    Past experience of ECS trains is that GWR staff can use them - for example as a transfer between active duties - but there isn't going to be a train manager on duty.  It would (I suspect) have been sensible for GWR as the train operator to have had a second member of staff along so assist the train operation, though I don't think it likely that (s)he would have been required to check the tickets of the NR staff and sell them full fare singled if they didn't have them 

Re: Exeter to Barnstaple "commute from hell"
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [368319/31055/24]
Posted by infoman at 05:04, 19th November 2025
 
I know it says train crew,but would it require a guard as well,considering it had Network rail staff on board

Re: Pilning Station - where are we, and looking at future options (May 2025)
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [368318/30237/21]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 17:58, 18th November 2025
Already liked by Oxonhutch, grahame, PrestburyRoad, GBM
 
PIGS MIGHT FLY.....
Yes I know that's not at all likely,
However,on a little trip out this afternoon,I chanced to drop in at Pilning Station!
 
Now in the past I've been known to complain about many things to do with Pilning
The lack of a second platform,and also no way of getting too what's left of the original platform two ,the general poor state of the one that remains in service,not to mention only two trains calling a week.

But blow me down Pilning Has had one hell of a face lift !...
Platform edge has been repaired,tactile paving has been installed,yellow line is in place the entire length,and wonder of wonders the whole of platform one has been completely resurfaced with a good standard of Tarmac.
Not only but also,the old bus stop waiting shelter has been scrapped and replaced with a bright shiny new one which has been moved back from the platform and placed in a more comfortable position.
Wait there's more,as well as all of the above, new signage ,a new help point ,new platform entry gate ,new fencing the entire length of the platform egg crates at both ends with access gates to platform ends.

And last but not least Platform Lighting has been fitted

My Flabber is well and Truly Gasted.

Note the car park surface still resembles a dirt track ,oh and by the he way the gates that were fitted a while back to prevent fly tipping have been adjusted by bending them so as to prevent them from being closed .
One would imagine that the application of a transit van or something similar to the gate was employed to prevent access being denied

Has Christmas Come Early To Pilning....
Remains to be seen..

However a very big Thankyou to Network Rail and GWR is deserved

Going to have a cup of tea and a bit of a lye down now ,to get over the surprise.

 
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