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Re: A trip on GWR's Battery Electric Train - 17/12/2024
In "Thames Valley Branches" [372151/29641/13]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 15:40, 7th February 2026
 
Sampled this service today and it is a nice little runner. The line speed is very slow, but what little acceleration was allowed with those constraints, was good. It would be nice to see how it would perform at a higher speed.

Re: Clockface timetables - a good idea?
In "Across the West" [372150/31583/26]
Posted by Hafren at 14:46, 7th February 2026
 
For suburban routes and core Intercity routes.... definitely Yes.

For many rural and secondary routes it often wouldn't be practical. Maintaining connections, planning for efficiency to avoid an extra train/bus in the cycle, managing single track sections and other capacity constraints, dealing with varying stopping patterns (e.g. varied extensions of the core route, stations where it would be genuinely wasteful to stop all trains etc), slotting in occasional freight where capacity is limited, peak variations (where not simply a case of adding an extra journey), even ripple effect of routes affected by these things on other routes because of connections and capacity, etc...

Re: Possible - "Inspiring Climate Action"
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [372149/31409/40]
Posted by broadgage at 13:19, 7th February 2026
 
1) Encourage greater use of small and lightweight EVs such as scooters, cycles.

2)Re open closed rail lines, preferably using electric trains.

3) Greater use of trams and trolley buses, use of SAME infrastructure for electric trucks.

4) Make train travel more attractive, it is NOT JUST ME who considers IETs to be worse than the rains they replaced.

5) Make train travel simpler, with greatly simplified fares. No more punitively high fares for last minute travel on lightly loaded trains. And no more discounted fares for advance purchased tickets on overcrowded trains.

Re: Leicestershire councillor says bid to restore Ivanhoe rail line is 'dead'
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [372148/31575/28]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 11:35, 7th February 2026
 
Although the Leicester end is a problem, Coalville-Ashby-Burton-Derby would stand on its own two feet as a reopening. The roads are appallingly congested around there. (I used to work and live part-time in Burton, and it wasn't uncommon to go out for a bike ride in the evening and end up overtaking the stationary traffic on the A444 or A511.)

It's one of those projects that, if any Government had been serious about growing the railways, would have been done years ago. Sadly it gets more difficult, and more expensive, the longer it's put off - the line has suffered from cable theft recently as well as the ongoing subsidence issues, such that the western half is now formally out of use.

Re: Leicestershire councillor says bid to restore Ivanhoe rail line is 'dead'
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [372147/31575/28]
Posted by grahame at 08:26, 7th February 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Mark A
 
From afar,  this is one of those projects that starts and gets squashed every few years - current iteration dead , maybe, but wait for it to rise up again at a later date.  And who knows how it will go at the time.    I do remember a journey to Ashby-de-la-Zouch to give a training course, staying in the town.  Horrid transfer at Burton with the bus going from the other side of the town from the station and felt very slow.  AdlZ quite a big town that could / should perhaps have a station.  At the end of the course, one of my delegates wouldn't hear of me taking the bus and gave me a lift to Derby station.

MOVED: Changes to Stranraer
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372146/31585/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 03:00, 7th February 2026

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [372143/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 21:39, 6th February 2026
 
The move from Wolverton to Laira was cancelled for the second time which has been the norm.

175002 and 175011 are parked up on the Looe branch until they fix the problem.

Re: Clockface timetables - a good idea?
In "Across the West" [372142/31583/26]
Posted by Marlburian at 21:38, 6th February 2026
 
Occasionally I deliver friends to Tilehurst Station for trains to Paddington and have sometimes been caught out by minor differences in time, meaning hanging around for a few extra minutes or a dash across the footbridge.

(Two weeks ago one friend very patiently explained how I could swap data to a new phone, making me feel old and stupid.  I was quite pleased and relieved when before leaving my house  we both checked to see if the next train was on time. Her interpretation of the National Rail website was that the 1659 was due at 1556, whereas mine showed all trains were on time.)

Re: Leicestershire councillor says bid to restore Ivanhoe rail line is 'dead'
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [372137/31575/28]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 19:05, 6th February 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
A conversation elsewhere recently raised the potential of a flyover at that…There's several factors that work in favour of this, even if it's a bit like borrowing 'LSWR best practice'.

Presumably by far the most important factor, cost and its effect on a business case, doesn’t work in favour of it?

Re: Derailment at Goodrington, Paignton - 16 January 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [372136/31459/24]
Posted by RailCornwall at 18:19, 6th February 2026
Already liked by Mark A, trainbuff
 
RTT seems to indicate that this damaged stock was finally moved on from the Paignton line in the early hours of today (Fri 06 Feb 2026)

Re: Clockface timetables - a good idea?
In "Across the West" [372134/31583/26]
Posted by eXPassenger at 17:30, 6th February 2026
 
I voted Yes - With odd exceptions.
My preferred answer would have been Yes - Where possible, recognising that other services / activities may prevent it and this will be more common than 'odd exceptions'.

Re: Tarka Line - Exeter to Barnstaple: services, facilities, incidents and events
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [372133/15711/24]
Posted by grahame at 17:30, 6th February 2026
 
Dear Graham

Further to our email on Wednesday (4th Feb), river conditions mean specialist diving teams have still been unable to inspect the required bridges on the Barnstaple/Okehampton lines due to water levels being too high and flowing at a dangerously fast speed.

Therefore, both lines remain closed, and we do not expect reopening until Tuesday 10th February at the very earliest. Rain continues to be forecast so this may yet extended later into next week.

A limited rail replacement service continues to run, however from Monday 9th February this will be amended due a planned closure of the A377 between Eggesford and Crediton. Minibuses/taxis will run from Exeter to Barnstaple to service intermediate stations, and coaches will run between Barnstaple and Exeter via the North Devon Link Road. This will add time to the existing rail replacement journey duration.

The Looe branch line also remains closed, with rail replacement services continuing to operate.

The very latest travel information is available at www.gwr.com/check and www.gwr.com/travel-information/travel-updates/live-network-updates

We will update you at the start of next week, and apologise for the ongoing disruption.

Best wishes

Tom & Heledd

Re: Clockface timetables - a good idea?
In "Across the West" [372132/31583/26]
Posted by bobm at 16:30, 6th February 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Ignore the dash in the rain, where the D1 moves by a few minutes on some hours it can make the connection to the London trains at Bath Spa uncomfortably tight.

Re: Clockface timetables - a good idea?
In "Across the West" [372131/31583/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:27, 6th February 2026
 
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Clockface timetables - a good idea?
In "Across the West" [372130/31583/26]
Posted by grahame at 16:17, 6th February 2026
 
Many public transport services run to what we call a "clock face" timetable - the train or bus goes the same number of minutes after each (or sometime alternate) hour.   But some service don't follow that pattern - here's an example



Do members think that clock face timetables are a good idea?

Re: Tarka Line - Exeter to Barnstaple: services, facilities, incidents and events
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [372129/15711/24]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:57, 6th February 2026
 
From the BBC:

Petition for rail investment handed to Parliament

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The Tarka Line remains closed after Storm Chandra brought heavy rain last month

A petition calling for investment in a railway line that has been closed since extreme weather damaged tracks has been presented to Parliament.

Ian Roome, the Liberal Democrat MP for North Devon, presented the petition signed by more than 3,000 people calling for action to improve the Tarka Line, which links Barnstaple with Exeter.

Problems on the line included repeated flooding and cancellations - it is currently closed "until further notice" after Storm Chandra brought heavy rain last month. Great Western Railway (GWR) said the line was "at capacity". A Network Rail spokesperson said it had carried out £19m worth of upgrades to the line, but said there was more to be done.

Roome told MPs passengers had "suffered overcrowding and repeated service disruption due to flooding despite a record-breaking one million rail journeys".

"Following Storm Chandra all trains have been cancelled. North Devon's rail link has been shut for over a week and will not resume for several more days," he said. "The petitioners request that the House of Commons urge the government to ask Network Rail and Great Western Railway to prioritise the Tarka Line for improvements and to work together to make rail travel in north Devon more resilient."

He urged residents affected by disruption to continue sharing their experiences to strengthen the case for investment. "Demand for the service has continually grown and it's one of the busiest branch lines anywhere in the South West - it's a lifeline for commuters getting to work, students travelling to college, people attending appointments," he said.

North Devon Council's deputy leader Peter Leaver said the authority was working closely with operators and partners to improve reliability, but it was "increasingly clear" major investment was needed to keep up with demand and make the line more resilient in extreme weather. "That's why this petition really matters, and we hope it builds on the case we've been making for investment."

Tim Steer, the Devon and Cornwall chairman of campaigning group Railfuture, said those relying on the line to get to work, school or health appointments were being "thrown into chaos".  "Prolonged disruption is thwarting the continued success of the line," he added.

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Network Rail and GWR said engineers had been "working tirelessly" to fix the issues

Network Rail said upgrades over the last decade included 7.4 miles (12km) of track renewal, bridge replacements, and improvements to the drainage. "Major flood resilience work was carried out at Cowley Junction, where we installed a flood defence barrier that can be deployed when heavy rain is expected," it said. "Prior to the installation of the barrier, we installed large flood drains in this area to allow water to safely drain underneath the railway. While this has improved the resilience of the line, we know that with the increasing frequency of severe weather, there's still more to be done." It said it was trialing new technology to monitor for potential scour damage to bridges and said more work would take place in the spring.

Great Western Railway (GWR) said capacity issues on the line tended to occur at the start of the academic year but it hoped larger Class 175 trains would provide some respite in the short term. "Unfortunately, we can't run more trains because the branch line is at capacity, and we can't run longer trains at the moment because the platforms are not long enough, which is a really expensive solution we would need funding for," a spokesman said. "We are however supportive of campaigns to upgrade the infrastructure of the north Devon line."


MOVED: Cross-Solent ferries, between Hampshire and the Isle of Wight - merged topics, ongoing discussion
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372128/31582/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:38, 6th February 2026
 
This topic has been moved to Buses and other ways to travel, where other ferry issues are being discussed.

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=27000.0

Re: Changes to services at Maidenhead
In "London to Reading" [372127/31563/7]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:25, 6th February 2026
 

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MOVED: WEMCA to improve Bristol-Bath cycle path
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [372126/31581/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:18, 6th February 2026
 
This topic has been moved to Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters and merged with an existing topic there.

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=31452.msg372107#msg372107

Re: Leicestershire councillor says bid to restore Ivanhoe rail line is 'dead'
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [372125/31575/28]
Posted by Mark A at 15:18, 6th February 2026
 
The text from a recent debate at Westminster.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id=2026-01-28a.450.0

A conversation elsewhere recently raised the potential of a flyover at that missing junction to take trains off the branch & above the industrial units - and the MML running lines - dropping down and be plumbed into the slow line(s) for onward travel to Leicester. There's several factors that work in favour of this, even if it's a bit like borrowing 'LSWR best practice'.

Back-of-the-envelope calculations indicate that in terms of distances and gradients, the space is available, the overhead constraints allow for a flyover**, much of the land is in railway ownership, and this would even improve on the vanished 1960s arrangement which dropped the branch trains into the fast lines of what was a four track railway.

Mark

** On the approach from Leicester, unless I have it completely wrong, a 1:50 gradient from the exit to the tunnel would be needed to give the flyover, at a distance of 0.2Km a 5 metre clearance above the current railway. The western flyover approach, with no existing overbridges, is more straigntforward.

[Edit to add the distance that that 1:50 gradient would need to run.]

Re: Changes to services at maidenhead
In "London to Reading" [372124/31563/7]
Posted by NickB at 14:52, 6th February 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
I’ve received a reply from GWR confirming the same.
It only took the full length of the engineering works for GWR to respond

Re: Leicestershire councillor says bid to restore Ivanhoe rail line is 'dead'
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [372123/31575/28]
Posted by Noggin at 14:08, 6th February 2026
 
To add context, even though it would appear to be a no-brainer at first glance (existing railway, connecting outlying towns to county town, M1 park & ride potential etc), IIRC the problem is that there's no northbound access to the MML.

So as well as the line rebuild, resignalling, stations etc, they'd have to CPO a chunk of industrial estate to build a north-bound chord onto the MML. As if that wasn't enough, I suspect that in order to provide sufficient line capacity, it would be necessary to restore one, if not both of the lines between the junction and Leicester station with a station throat rebuild and all the costs that would entail.

Whilst the line *could perhaps* terminate at Coalville, South Wigston or a new Leicester South station, the reality is that the business case probably doesn't stack up, as the majority of users likely wanting to go to Leicester, with an express bus being faster. Not to mention the negative PR. 

If I was Leicester City Council I'd be focusing my energies and political capital on getting Wigston Jcn to Syston Jcn wired plus any MML capacity improvements thet can be eked out. Once that's done, a whole bunch of infill electrification gains a much better BCR, services can be sped up, EMT and XC have a better case for battery-electric units, case for Coventry-Leicester improves etc.

https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/extending-the-ivanhoe-line-restoration-to-leicester-could-cost-additional-271m-09-11-2023/

 
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