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Re: Winterstoke railway bridge, Weston super mare closed for two years.
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368554/31150/31]
Posted by John D at 15:33, 24th November 2025
 
Replacement bridge requires piling to 35 metres depth.

Mark

35m is 115 feet, that is very long.   

Normal size piling rigs would not be able to handle augers or insert the steel (either sheet or rebar cage) of that length.  Sounds like specialist equipment will be needed

Shrewsbury train station bus stop suspended over safety concerns
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368553/31153/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:06, 24th November 2025
 
From the BBC:


The BBC found the bus stop waiting area was smaller than guidance

Buses will not be stopping at Shrewsbury train station's floating bus stop due to safety concerns, Arriva Midlands has said.

The stop outside the station has come under fire, after the BBC found it did not meet Department for Transport (DfT) guidance. The waiting area for bus passengers is narrower than the minimum size.

Shropshire Council previously told the BBC that it felt "let down" by the contractors that built the stop, and the designs said it was the minimum size required.

The authority has been contacted for comment. Floating bus stops have a cycle lane between the stop and the pavement.

In a statement, Arriva said it had carried out a safety review of the floating bus stop, and based on its findings, its services would no longer call at the stop. "We have informed the local authority and our customers," it said. "Our priority is always the safety of our passengers, colleagues and other road users and we'll continue working with partners to identify a safe and workable solution."

It is not yet clear where customers will have to get off to get to the station.

The contractor, WSP, previously said the island ended up smaller than planned because workers found unexpected underground utilities that forced a change in the design.

The BBC measured the buffer area between the road and cycle lane at about 1.1m (3.6ft) wide. However, government guidance suggests it should be between 1.5m and 2m, meaning it is nearly 40cm (15.7in) short of the minimum width.

Disability campaigners and wheelchair users criticised the project, claiming the island is dangerously small and not-fit-for-purpose.

The chairman of Shropshire and Wrekin Fire Authority has previously said lives and safety were at risk, because of the traffic issues caused by the gyratory. Fire engines also used the new cycle lane to get away from traffic jams in the area.

A cross-party review of the works is taking place.

The gyratory project, which began in June 2024, has cost about £3.8m. It has been almost entirely funded by a Levelling Up grant awarded to Shropshire Council by the previous Conservative government in 2023.


Re: Recycling rubbish - something of a minefield?
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368552/30854/31]
Posted by ChrisB at 14:31, 24th November 2025
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Are they recyclable?

Re: Recycling rubbish - something of a minefield?
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368551/30854/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:49, 24th November 2025
 
...
3.  In North Somerset, we were previously required to keep quite separate receptacles for 'plastics' and 'cans'.  Now, we have been provided with big red bags, into which all plastic and metal cans should be chucked together.
...

From the BBC:

North Somerset Council's recycling bags are 'falling apart at the seams'


Some red recycling bags handed out by North Somerset council are "falling apart"

A council has admitted that by trying to improve its recycling bags, they had "made it worse" after people reported them falling apart.

North Somerset Council was now in contact with its supplier after some of the bags began "falling apart at the seams."

Council cabinet member for planning and environment Annemieke Waite told a full council meeting on 11 November that the red bags ordered for the trial of the scheme last November were fine and had remained in "perfect condition". But after handing them out to residents, she said they found there was "a distinct problem with them".

"Some of the red bags are fading and failing," she said. "They are literally falling apart at the seams. We are not happy at all."

The council has now sent a team around to check what percentage of the bags are falling apart, as part of the council's agreement with its supplier.


Holes are appearing in some of the bags

"This is a very reputable firm. There are only two firms in the UK that do the bags that we are using and they are being used by so many different councils," Ms Waite said. "We know that we are not the only council that has a problem."

Chair of the council Clare Hunt added: "I know by trying to improve something we seem to have made things a little bit worse."

The red bags for plastic and metal recycling were introduced to 6,000 households in some areas in November 2024 on a trial basis. From the end of March this year they were rolled out to all households across North Somerset.

The bags were introduced to make recycling easier to sort with more space, which also helps improve the value of the recycling North Somerset collects, which is sold to offset the cost of waste collections.


Re: First Bus pulling out of Cornwall, 14.2.2026
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368550/31133/5]
Posted by grahame at 13:10, 24th November 2025
 
Sharing Geoff Brown, Lib Dem for Newquay, on Facebook

Naturally there is concern about FIRST buses withdrawing all services from Cornwall by the end of February next year. My advice would be not to worry as I am confident that other providers will step in and plug the gaps.

Although the time frame to replace services is very tight Cornwall has some very experienced bus operators - as I found out when, as the Cabinet Member for Transport I was responsible for the most recent bus contract which saw GoCornwall bus deliver numerous routes across the county and also invest in a new fleet of Euro 6 buses, the greenest diesels currently available.
 
We did look at electric buses but the length of most routes and very hilly nature of Cornwall meant that they were not suitable. That said going forward electrification of the Park & Ride in Truro will be a distinct possibility in the future, should funding become available.

Re: Winterstoke railway bridge, Weston super mare closed for two years.
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368549/31150/31]
Posted by Mark A at 12:40, 24th November 2025
 
Replacement bridge requires piling to 35 metres depth.

Mark

Re: Winterstoke railway bridge, Weston super mare closed for two years.
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368548/31150/31]
Posted by Phantom at 11:03, 24th November 2025
 
It's not that far from where I live and the roads are already much busier just from the temporary traffic lights that have been in place for the past couple of weeks

It is not far from WSM FC (old Westlands property) but for anyone coming into Weston there is a new link road into that area (on the old airfield), it is really those coming from town heading out to that area that will impacted.

It does amaze me how long it is taking to complete

Re: Winterstoke railway bridge, Weston super mare closed for two years.
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368547/31150/31]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 10:08, 24th November 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
North Somerset Website


History of Winterstoke Road bridge
Winterstoke Road bridge was originally built between 1941 and 1943 by the War Office (now Ministry of Defence). It was built to provide easy access to the RAF’s aeroplane factory in Weston-super-Mare.

Access provided by the bridge was critical in supporting the war effort as the factory produced the Bristol Beaufighter aircraft.

The bridge was built by William Cowlin & Sons, with nearby railway sidings built by George Pollard & Co of Taunton using steel produced by Lysaght.

In the early 1950s the Ministry of Defence opened the bridge to the public, renaming the route Winterstoke Road.

In the intervening years Winterstoke Road has served as an important transport route in Weston-super-Mare.

Meanwhile, the aircraft industry continued in the local area for many years including sites for aircraft maintenance and Westland Helicopters on the site of the former RAF Weston-super-Mare.

In 2018, the age and condition of the bridge meant that a 7.5T weight restriction was put in place.

Now that the bridge is over 80 years old, it must be replaced if this important transport route in Weston-super-Mare is to remain open.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [368546/29711/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 10:03, 24th November 2025
 
Not unexpected for those in the know, but the knock on from the weekend engineering works was that the first three London bound services this morning were all five car short-forms. Planned, maybe, but still cosy for those travelling. At least the 5:16 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington train ran this Monday.

Historic Ayleston Old Mill canal bridge in Leicester to close for repairs
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368545/31152/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:01, 24th November 2025
 
From the BBC:


The Aylestone Old Mill Canal Bridge, over the Grand Union Canal, will be closed to pedestrians and traffic

A historic bridge in Leicester will be shut for four weeks to allow the road surface to be repaired.

The Aylestone Old Mill Canal Bridge, over the Grand Union Canal, will be closed to pedestrians and traffic from Wednesday while maintenance work is carried out.

Aylestone Meadows car park will be closed to allow the work to be done, and alternative parking will be available at the nearby Canal Street car park.

Leicester City Council said that diversions would be in place during the works and the canal and towpath beneath the bridge would remain open.

Councillor Geoff Whittle, assistant city mayor for environment and transport, said: "This historic bridge is a well-known feature over this stretch of the canal. Wear and tear mean that the condition of the bridge's road surface is such that repair work is now required, and the bridge will close for a few weeks while that is carried out."

The work will cost about £37,000 and is being funded through the city's highways capital maintenance budget.


Re: On this day: up sleeper derailment across Paddington station throat 23/11/83
In "Railway History and related topics" [368544/31144/55]
Posted by Electric train at 09:47, 24th November 2025
 
I remember the incident very well, I was working at Paddington in the station BR maintenance team as an electrician.  It took us weeks afterward to clear up and reinstall all the electric points heating cabling and equipment that got destroyed.

I was fortunate that it was Mk3 sleeping cars and not Mk1, the Mk3's were fairly new only being entered into service in 1982

Omagh rail tragedy victims remembered 75 years on
In "Railway History and related topics" [368543/31151/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 09:20, 24th November 2025
 
From the BBC:

Keeping the memory alive of five rail workers killed by train


The new memorial features a train image and original track from the Derry Road Line

A memorial to five men killed by a train in Omagh, County Tyrone, has been upgraded ahead of the 75th anniversary of their deaths.

The railway workers died after being struck by a passenger train as they carried out routine maintenance work on the Derry Road line.

John Cassidy, John Cleary, John McCrory, Dan McCrory and Charles (Charlie) Flanagan were permanent way men, responsible for maintaining the track.

A remembrance service will be held later on Monday at the newly improved memorial garden, funded by Fermanagh and Omagh District Council.

"It's just lovely to keep their memory alive," Mr Flanagan's granddaughter told BBC News NI.

Heavy fog had descended over Omagh that morning and the noise of the Enniskillen train idling in the station meant that the men weren't aware of the oncoming train bound for Belfast.

Two died instantly, two more succumbed to their injuries later that day and Mr Flanagan died the following morning.

Their deaths left 19 children without fathers.


(BBC article continues)


Re: Caersws railway ridge that keeps being driven into 'has cost taxpayers £50k'
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368542/31149/51]
Posted by Mark A at 09:14, 24th November 2025
 
No excuse of course as it *is* signed from the road, but remarkably, despite being over the A470, there are poor sightlines into the bridge itself, signage that announces it but doesn't scream, vegetation on wing walls and approach embankments + steel span is grey, all of which lessen the visual cues and from the south, no height sign on the deck itself. (Acknowledge that with all that in place, people would still manage not to notice it...)

This might be one of the bridges that acts as a protective gateway for various other low bridges in mid wales, e.g. the series on the road up the coast from Machynlleth.

Mark

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [368541/29711/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:12, 24th November 2025
 
08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:24/11/2025 01:24

RTT reports that 1W11 0553 Pad to Gt Malvern was cancelled, "unknown cause"

Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368540/27074/9]
Posted by ChrisB at 09:01, 24th November 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, PrestburyRoad, Oxonhutch, Hal
 
....the other factor to aid the case will the be decarbonising fright 

Had to record this typo before it got edited 

Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368539/27074/9]
Posted by Electric train at 08:58, 24th November 2025
 
Re-reading this again-

The government has pledged £120m in funding, part of a £500m investment in infrastructure to link up Oxford and Cambridge and turn the region into the "European Silicon Valley".

..two questions occur to me-

1 - That's a huge proportion of the East-West fund for a short stretch of line that does not even connect directly to the actual Oxford to Cambridge line, and

2 - What would it cost to complete the OHL from Didcot to Oxford?

The second one is lot less than average because about third of the mast bases are already installed, and some masts already up.

Also there are closures planned (and budgeted for) in Oxford area where gantries spanning all the tracks could be installed (even if the detail of what needs to be bolted to them is not yet finalised).  Much cheaper to come along overnight with a road railer attaching brackets and wires than do extra full closure/blockade

£120m I suspect is less than the funding for road schemes to achieve the same capacity, also funding a rail project meets the Governments carbon zero ambition.

The completion of the Didcot - Oxford electrification I believe is on the Western and Wales Region business plan, it would not be in the funding plan until CP8 / 9, NR are in the process of putting the CP8 funding plan together but the Didcot - Oxford electrification will be dependent on the future GWR (GBR) rolling stock, the other factor to aid the case will the be decarbonising fright 

Re: Tarka Line - Exeter to Barnstaple: merged topics - services, facilities, incidents and events -
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [368538/15711/24]
Posted by grahame at 08:47, 24th November 2025
 
He wants to addres the ridiculous amounts of rain/climate change then, not the railway....


And ... flooded again

08:35 Barnstaple to Exeter Central due 09:47
and all trains until mid afternoon

08:35 Barnstaple to Exeter Central due 09:47 has been cancelled.
This is due to flooding.

Re: Caersws railway ridge that keeps being driven into 'has cost taxpayers £50k'
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368537/31149/51]
Posted by Noggin at 08:31, 24th November 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Witham Bobby
 
If it's such a problem, why has it not just got a dirty great girder arch either side to protect it?

Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368536/27074/9]
Posted by John D at 08:10, 24th November 2025
 
Re-reading this again-

The government has pledged £120m in funding, part of a £500m investment in infrastructure to link up Oxford and Cambridge and turn the region into the "European Silicon Valley".

..two questions occur to me-

1 - That's a huge proportion of the East-West fund for a short stretch of line that does not even connect directly to the actual Oxford to Cambridge line, and

2 - What would it cost to complete the OHL from Didcot to Oxford?

The second one is lot less than average because about third of the mast bases are already installed, and some masts already up.

Also there are closures planned (and budgeted for) in Oxford area where gantries spanning all the tracks could be installed (even if the detail of what needs to be bolted to them is not yet finalised).  Much cheaper to come along overnight with a road railer attaching brackets and wires than do extra full closure/blockade

Re: Winterstoke railway bridge, Weston super mare closed for two years.
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368535/31150/31]
Posted by John D at 08:05, 24th November 2025
 
Quite unusual, built during world war 2, replacement being part funded by Ministry of Defence.

Does anyone know the history of this, I realise there was an airfield nearby, and some of the munitions / war components factories were near areas with lots of Boarding houses to house the workers.  But no idea specifically on this.

Re: Winterstoke railway bridge, Weston super mare closed for two years.
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368534/31150/31]
Posted by grahame at 07:44, 24th November 2025
 
That's on the Weston avoider line, and is close to road vehicle traffic for two years.  No closure to rail traffic announced though I would suspect that there will be some engineering works that mean trains can't go that way - divert through WSM station?

Re: Winterstoke railway bridge, Weston super mare closed for two years.
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368533/31150/31]
Posted by bradshaw at 07:28, 24th November 2025
 
Report on BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx23ln9klpzo
And on Somerset Council website
https://n-somerset.gov.uk/business/regeneration-development/winterstoke-road-replacement-bridge-scheme

Winterstoke railway bridge, Weston super mare closed for two years.
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368532/31150/31]
Posted by infoman at 06:14, 24th November 2025
 
being reported on local radio channels

Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368531/27074/9]
Posted by ellendune at 23:40, 23rd November 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Regarding your first question.

I read somewhere that reopening the branch and allowing the Marylebone trains to terminate there allows the current bay platform at Oxford to be used for EWR. 

I am guessing that to provide further platform capacity at Oxford for terminating EWR trains might involve rebuilding the east side of the station and that would cost much more than £120m and take a lot longer to complete. 

Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368530/27074/9]
Posted by eightonedee at 22:09, 23rd November 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Re-reading this again-

The government has pledged £120m in funding, part of a £500m investment in infrastructure to link up Oxford and Cambridge and turn the region into the "European Silicon Valley".

..two questions occur to me-

1 - That's a huge proportion of the East-West fund for a short stretch of line that does not even connect directly to the actual Oxford to Cambridge line, and

2 - What would it cost to complete the OHL from Didcot to Oxford?

Re: On this day: up sleeper derailment across Paddington station throat 23/11/83
In "Railway History and related topics" [368529/31144/55]
Posted by grahame at 20:08, 23rd November 2025
 
Anyone find the RAIB report on this? I can't seem to locate it.

Overspeed across points I Understand from professional twitter/X


And for members there is a mirror at https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/mirror/DoT_Paddington1983.pdf

Re: On this day: up sleeper derailment across Paddington station throat 23/11/83
In "Railway History and related topics" [368528/31144/55]
Posted by stuving at 19:51, 23rd November 2025
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This was before the RAIB. There were public hearings conducted by a DoT inspector, Major Charles Rose. This heard that the train did not brake - the driver said he did apply a bake, but no fault was found to explain this. The report (of 16/2/84) concluded that the driver failed to apply the brakes, for unexplained reasons (possibly not known to the driver himself).

Re: Isles of Scilly sea ferry and air services - merged posts
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368527/11098/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:39, 23rd November 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
From the BBC:

First Skybus Cornwall to Gatwick flight takes off



The first flight between Cornwall and London operated by airline Skybus has taken place on Sunday.

The airline agreed a short-term deal to run the service between Cornwall Airport Newquay and London Gatwick following the collapse of Easter Airways last month.

The daily year-round route is subsidised by the Government and Cornwall Council due to its economic importance, and is covered by a Public Service Obligation (PSO).

Councillor Leigh Frost, leader of Cornwall Council, said he was "delighted" to find a replacement operator so quickly and "even more so to see a Cornish company stepping in".

Skybus currently runs services to the Isles of Scilly, with flights from Newquay, Land's End and Exeter, and is owned by the Isles of Scilly Steamship Company (ISSC) which also runs boat services to the islands.

Frost said: "It has been a difficult time, with disruption for many people who use the service and had already booked flights, so I am pleased this announcement will help end the uncertainty around this vital connection to the capital."

Councillor Tim Dwelly, portfolio holder for economic regeneration and investment, added: "Our priority was to get the service back up and running as quickly as possible to minimise disruption for passengers. Restoring this route helps maintain the confidence of business and tourism sectors, and it's welcome that a Cornish company has the capability to step in and deliver during this interim period."

The 12 passengers booked on the first Gatwick Skybus flight had room to spare on the 180 seat Boeing 737 which took off from Newquay at about 15:40 GMT.

Skybus said it would transition to a 78 seater turboprop Q400 aircraft early next month, and services would increase to twice daily from mid-February.

Jonathan Hinkles, managing director of Skybus, said: "We are thrilled to launch this new service between Cornwall and London Gatwick. It is not just about making travel easier for passengers; it's about creating opportunities – for businesses, for tourism, and for the local communities we serve."

Cornwall Council owns the airport site and oversees the process of finding a new operator for the PSO route. The council said last month the tendering process to find an operator for the next four years was underway.


Re: Regulated rail fares frozen in England until March 2027
In "Fare's Fair" [368526/31142/4]
Posted by grahame at 19:18, 23rd November 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
Simon Calder, writing on the fares changes and some possible consequences in the Independent. Also, his article makes some play on Didcot - Swindon being the most expensive main line leg in the UK, not sure if that's the cost with respect to time on the train perhaps.
There's your answer, in the article
a boggling £2.20 per minute, making it the most expensive main line train trip in Britain
- basing it on pence per minute.

Ther are more expensive fares off the mainline ... I can't imagine anyone buying this:




Caersws railway bridge that keeps being driven into 'has cost taxpayers £50k'
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368525/31149/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:18, 23rd November 2025
 
From the BBC:


More than 1,110 minutes of train delays and temporary closures of the A470 have been caused by the crashes

A bridge that has been hit 12 times by drivers over nearly two years in "avoidable" incidents has cost taxpayers £50,000 in repairs, Network Rail has said.

The Abergavenny Road railway bridge, in Caersws, Powys, has been struck a dozen times since January 2024 - seven times in 2025 alone.

Network Rail said over-height vehicles crashed into the bridge over the Cambrian railway line despite numerous warning signs, causing more than 1,110 minutes of train delays and the A470 to temporarily close. The rail operator said it planned to install new signs in the coming months and urged drivers to know the height and width of their vehicles before starting their journey.


Network Rail says drivers are crashing into the bridge despite numerous warning signs

Rebecca Watling, head of performance at Network Rail Wales and Borders, said "incidents like this are entirely avoidable".

"When a vehicle hits a bridge, it creates a serious safety risk and causes major disruption to the railway, with trains stopped for essential inspections and repairs - meaning people miss important appointments or connections," she said. "These incidents also carry a significant cost to the public purse - money that could be far better spent on upgrading and maintaining our rail network." She urged drivers to "check the height and width of their vehicles".

Deb Justice, Cambrian Railway Partnership's community rail development officer, said: "This affects not only local journeys on our trains but rail travel across the whole of Wales and Borders."

She also urged drivers to "take a moment" to check the size of their vehicles before setting out. "It's a small action, but one that can make a huge difference to the safety and reliability of travel for both rail passengers and road users."


 
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