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Re: Bristol Rail Campaign (FoSBR) AGM 11 March 2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [373261/31295/34]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 12:05, 11th March 2026
 
Just a quick reminder that Bristol Rail Campaign's AGM is tonight at the Watershed, Bristol. Doors open at 7pm for a 7.30 start.

We will be hearing from GWR about ongoing developments around Bristol and Temple Meads, and there should be plenty of opportunity to meet up with old friends and catch up!

Non-members are welcome, and if you want to join the campaign you can do so at the meeting.

Hope to see some of you there!

Re: Fuel tax - freeze, and should it have been frozen in the first place?
In "Fare's Fair" [373260/31734/4]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:04, 11th March 2026
 
Humphrey Appleby would be happy to explain that one to you, Minister Red Squirrel.


Re: Fuel tax - freeze, and should it have been frozen in the first place?
In "Fare's Fair" [373259/31734/4]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 11:56, 11th March 2026
Already liked by Richard Fairhurst
 
Does anyone understand why governments apply flat-rate duties on some goods and services, but percentage taxes on others?

It strikes me that there is scope for a stealth tax here - replace duty with percentage taxes (maybe initially in the guise of a slight reduction) and then allow something related to fiscal drag to uplift the tax take with inflation.

Seems a lot less politically painful than the current modus operandi to me (but maybe that's why I'm not a politician!)

Re: Bus fares - when is a senior pass accepted in YOUR county?
In "Fare's Fair" [373258/31731/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:47, 11th March 2026
 
The fact that different councils can make different arrangements is something I find particularly frustrating, as it isn't always easy to find out what the situation is in any authority's area, even if you do happen to have access to websites.

Be grateful that they do - they are using the residents council tax to subsidise the extra. Government pay for use in the standard hours with councils that exceed the standard top up the difference. Hence why sometimes the extra is only open to their own residents

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [373257/31359/18]
Posted by matth1j at 11:47, 11th March 2026
 
This morning's early Gloucester-Southampton service got delayed somewhere between Chippenham and Melksham - left the former on time, departed the latter 11 mins late at 6:40 instead of 6:29. No reason given on platform or train, although there was a freight service that passed through at about 6:21 heading in the same direction, don't know if that had something to do with it - obviously it would had it been travelling in the opposite direction.

Consequently missed the Fratton-Bristol service at Trowbridge (6:46)

Re: Annoying / amusing use of completely irrelevant stock photos to illustrate press articles
In "The Lighter Side" [373256/11558/30]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:42, 11th March 2026
 
Not Ronaldsway - that's between Douglas & Castletown, nearer the latter

Re: Bank Notes - themes for images to be used in the future
In "The Lighter Side" [373255/30435/30]
Posted by ChrisB at 11:40, 11th March 2026
 
I suspect it's the obverse side from Charlie....

Re: Bank Notes - themes for images to be used in the future
In "The Lighter Side" [373254/30435/30]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 11:35, 11th March 2026
 
An update, from the BBC:
Wildlife to replace historical figures on banknotes

I wonder which creature will be replacing Charles III ? 

Re: Bus fares - when is a senior pass accepted in YOUR county?
In "Fare's Fair" [373253/31731/4]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:27, 11th March 2026
 
Bath & N.E. Somerset is from 9am to 4am the following day, so not as written above, and I have often used mine here on late buses after 11pm. If anyone has told you otherwise, tell them to look at the council's website.

Agreed: in North Somerset, off-peak (so, free bus travel) is between 9:00am and 4:00am the following day.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [373252/31359/18]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:16, 11th March 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
In the URL, surprised that it doesn't use the three letter station code, or, as it doesn't, that system's not able to take a station code in the URL and substitute whatever it does use.
It uses the TIPLOC code - never use one system where you can have five.   I'm sure when we have GBR this will simply and standardise things 

For those not in the know...

1)  A good place to find all the codes, and a description of what they mean:

http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/crs/crs0.shtm

2)  The list of stations covered by the Worldline servers that display as the Melskham link above, and where you can also choose various other layouts:

https://tiger.worldline.global/home


Re: On this day, 25th Oct 1960. 'The Severn was ablaze' (Evening Post 23/10/2010)
In "Railway History and related topics" [373251/7838/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:12, 11th March 2026
 
It's not an anniversary, rather an unusual opportunity to see a few bits of history ... from the BBC:

Rare glimpse of historic bridge thanks to low tide


Lifeboat volunteers explore Severn Railway Bridge – which has lain under silt and mud for decades

Dramatic rain and low tides have uncovered parts of a railway bridge that was demolished after a disaster in which five men died.

The Severn Railway Bridge, which spanned the river between Sharpness and Lydney, was torn down after two barges disastrously struck the bridge in 1960. While parts of the structure are always visible at low tide, heavy rain during exceptionally low tides have washed away sediment – allowing Sharpness Lifeboat Station volunteers to explore the bridge during a rescue training session.

Crew member Luke Grinstead said it was "just fantastic" to have the opportunity to visit the remains of the bridge, which was built in the 1870s. "To actually have the opportunity to go out there, to stand on it, to touch it, and actually be in the environment that the workers were in when they built and demolished it was a privilege," he said.

The structure was partially destroyed in the Severn Railway Bridge disaster on 25 October, 1960, when two tankers carrying petrol and heating oil were caught in dense fog and driven upriver.

They collided and, unable to separate, span together towards the bridge, hitting one of its piers – just minutes after the last train of the day had crossed. Flames then spread across the Severn when the petrol and oil cargo caught alight.

The two captains managed to swim to shore and an engineer was saved by men searching for the crew in a rowboat. However, the five remaining crew members did not survive.


Remains of the railway bridge are strewn across the Severn riverbed

The bridge was demolished after the incident but remnants of the structure were left behind.

Rob Burrows, a volunteer at Sharpness Lifeboat Station, said he and other crew members made the most of a rare window of opportunity "to get out there". He said the bridge could have been quickly covered up again due to the equinox spring tides – which bring exceptionally high and low water levels.

Surges of water upriver caused by the Severn's strong tidal bore also tend to "reset things a bit", Burrows said. "Stuff gets exposed and it's very fragile – you see it once and then it's gone," he added.

Grinstead said it was "an exciting" and "challenging" trip overall. "I think it's just fantastic," he said. However, he warned any would-be explorers not to venture out to the remains due to the dangerous conditions.


Re: Melksham Transport User Group - meetings for 2026
In "TransWilts line" [373250/31306/18]
Posted by grahame at 09:56, 11th March 2026
 
On the agenda for tomorrow (12.3.2026 at 18:30 - FAR TOO MUCH ;-) - at the Melksham Campus)

Come along if you want information, if you want to join in, or you just want to support - public and sustainable travel in, to, from and through the wider Melksham area.   We have some exciting projects which are just budding and looking forward at a time of great change, great opportunity, but also great risk.

1 General Public Meeting of MTUG; structure and approach
2 Publcity, support and activity
3 Reports from the region
4 National issues and how they effect us
5 Information Systems including comment on fares
6 The station area now and upcoming and masterplan
7 Other transport NaPTANs (bus stops!)
8 Update on train services
9 Update on bus servives
10 Population change, new housing, etc - changing demand
11 Looking ahead with train services
12 Looking ahead with bus services
13 Volunteers and Partnerships
14 Next meetings

Re: Spring (March 2026) Interrail Global Pass sale - rail ticket across 33 countries
In "Fare's Fair" [373249/31738/4]
Posted by grahame at 09:44, 11th March 2026
 
I remember reading here in the winter that the printed version of the spring international rail timetable wouldn't be available until March. Does anyone know if it is now available?

Came out late last month - and I have a copy ...

Re: Spring (March 2026) Interrail Global Pass sale - rail ticket across 33 countries
In "Fare's Fair" [373248/31738/4]
Posted by froome at 09:41, 11th March 2026
 
I remember reading here in the winter that the printed version of the spring international rail timetable wouldn't be available until March. Does anyone know if it is now available?

Re: Bus fares - when is a senior pass accepted in YOUR county?
In "Fare's Fair" [373247/31731/4]
Posted by froome at 09:37, 11th March 2026
 
From Wiltshire Live

Bus companies operating in Swindon could be asked to look at extending the hours of free bus travel for older passengers, as well as capping the fares for youngsters.

A motion will be put before councillors at the meeting next week, which, if passed, will mandate the leader to write to bus companies, and specifically Swindon’s Bus Company and Stagecoach, and ask them to work with the council on looking at both issues.

In Swindon, I believe it's the minimum government hours of 09:30 to 23:00 on Mondays to Fridays, and any time on Saturday or Sunday.

In Wiltshire, I believe it's from 09:00 to last timetabled service on Mondays to Fridays, and any time on Saturday and Sunday.

In Bath, I don't know what the starting time is but in theory it's to 23:00 Monday to Friday, and any time Saturday and Sunday.

The 09:00 cutoff in Wiltshire makes huge sense.  Being valid on the final service also makes sense - and both of these are successes for common sense.  Between 09:00 and 09:30,  there used to be a "quiet half hour" after work and school journeys were completed, and before the seniors "could" travel ... yes, I know people with a senior card can pay, but many of them take the view "I cannot travel".   The slightly later start also lead to people who wanted to be out getting on the bus at perhaps 09:15 and buying a short distance journey, then getting off and back on at the first timing point after 09:30, in one instance large numbers of them at a countryside "flagpole" stop on a narrow lane with a sloping verge.

The late bus 273 from Bath at 23:15 (Monday to Friday), 23:20 (Saturday) rarely carries many seniors.  In theory, I believe you have to pay if you join before Shockerwick and can travel on your bus pass if you hold a senior card from Shockerwick onwards.  In practise, I only use this service very, very rarely as a fallback and can't recall being asked to pay.

What is the situation in Somerset? Dorset? Devon? Cornwall? ...

Bath & N.E. Somerset is from 9am to 4am the following day, so not as written above, and I have often used mine here on late buses after 11pm. If anyone has told you otherwise, tell them to look at the council's website.

The fact that different councils can make different arrangements is something I find particularly frustrating, as it isn't always easy to find out what the situation is in any authority's area, even if you do happen to have access to websites.

Re: Rumours of a new ferry service
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [373246/31717/5]
Posted by CyclingSid at 09:31, 11th March 2026
 
Some more details

https://chichesterharbourcharters.co.uk/ferry/

not sure about "hop on a bike to enjoy the lanes and trails around Chichester Harbour and the Manhood Peninsula." A Brompton is not exactly sand friendly, and my legs aren't up to trudging through sand. Not sure about the National Trust attitude to cycling on East Head.

Also the trip across could be a bit choppy as the current is fast on a strong ebb tide.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [373245/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 09:05, 11th March 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
In the URL, surprised that it doesn't use the three letter station code, or, as it doesn't, that system's not able to take a station code in the URL and substitute whatever it does use.

Mark

It uses the TIPLOC code - never use one system where you can have five.   I'm sure when we have GBR this will simply and standardise things 

CRS: MKM   
NLC: 334600 (or 3346)
TIPLOC: MELKSHM   
STANME: MELKSHAM   
STANOX: 75361

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [373244/31359/18]
Posted by Mark A at 08:54, 11th March 2026
 
In the URL, surprised that it doesn't use the three letter station code, or, as it doesn't, that system's not able to take a station code in the URL and substitute whatever it does use.

Mark

Re: Bank Notes - themes for images to be used in the future
In "The Lighter Side" [373243/30435/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 08:53, 11th March 2026
 
An update, from the BBC:

Wildlife to replace historical figures on banknotes



British wildlife will replace historical figures on the next series of Bank of England banknotes - and the public will get their say on which animals and birds will appear.

Images of wildlife would be difficult to counterfeit, while also allowing for a celebration of nature across the country, the Bank said. It spells the end for the, sometimes controversial, choice of historical characters which have appeared on £5, £10, £20 and £50 notes for more than 50 years.

A panel of experts will draw up a wildlife shortlist to put before the public. The final decision is made by the Bank's governor but it is likely to be a few years before the new notes enter circulation.

"The key driver for introducing a new banknote series is always to increase counterfeit resilience, but it also provides an opportunity to celebrate different aspects of the UK," said the Bank's chief cashier, Victoria Cleland, whose signature appears on notes.

Nature was the most popular theme in the 44,000 responses to a public consultation and focus groups on banknote imagery. Some 60% of respondents selected it as one of their preferred themes, ahead of architecture and landmarks (56%); historical figures (38%); arts, culture and sport (30%); innovation (23%); and noteworthy milestones (19%), the Bank said.

Wildlife already appears on banknotes in the UK, with mackerel, otters, red squirrels and osprey featuring on notes issued by the Royal Bank of Scotland.


Well, we already have an otter and a red squirrel making appearances here, on the Coffee Shop forum.



Re: Annoying / amusing use of completely irrelevant stock photos to illustrate press articles
In "The Lighter Side" [373242/11558/30]
Posted by grahame at 08:32, 11th March 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 


Latest I have is that the hotel on the top of Snaefell is defunct ... I suspect the start and end points are Ronaldsway

Re: Caledonian MacBrayne ferries in Scotland
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [373241/30034/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 08:25, 11th March 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
From the BBC:

Glen Sannox ferry needs £3.2m repairs after one year in service


Glen Sannox began serving the Isle of Arran in January last year

A troubled Scottish ferry needs new propellors as part of multi-million pound repairs after just over a year in service, MSPs have heard.

Shipyard bosses told a Holyrood committee that repair costs for the Glen Sannox could hit £3.2m after a small crack was discovered in the hull.

Ferguson Marine chief executive, Graeme Thomson, said that extra steel had been added to strengthen the CalMac vessel, but only new propellors would tackle "the root cause" of the crack. "There is an opportunity to improve the design of the propellers," he told Holyrood's net zero, energy and transport committee on Tuesday.

Glen Sannox began serving the Isle of Arran in the Firth of Clyde in January 2025, seven years late and four times over budget.

The 336ft (102m) vessel, with space for 127 cars and 852 passengers, was the first major new ferry to join the fleet off the west of Scotland in a decade.

Glen Sannox was briefly taken out of service last year for the crack on a weld seam to be repaired, and was again off duty in November for annual maintenance at Cammell Laird's yard on Merseyside. That work was extended to include steel strengthening to tackle the vibration issue.

The committee heard that the problem related to "cavitation" - when bubbles detach from a propellor and pop, causing damaging vibrations.

Thomson said that the source of the crack was "vibration through the hull caused when the ship went astern." Similar work would be needed on its sister ship, the Glen Rosa, he added.

The issue is understood to run right back to the ferries' controversial design, which was intended to allow them to ply both the Arran route and the higher-speed 'Uig triangle', which links Skye to North Uist and Harris in the Outer Hebrides.

Glen Sannox was the first UK ferry capable of running on the dual fuels of liquified natural gas (LNG) and marine gas oil (MGO), a low-sulphur type of diesel.

(BBC article continues)


Spelling question, for the BBC: 'propellors', or 'propellers'? 



Re: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [373240/31355/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 07:41, 11th March 2026
 
From the BBC:

Gale-force winds to batter UK as snow and cold set for comeback

Some travel disruption is likely in the next few days as strenghtening winds develop across the United Kingdom.

On Wednesday a Met Office yellow warning is in force for gusts up to 80mph (130km/h) expected across northern and western Scotland.

But, it will turn more widely windy for most of us during Thursday.

Temperatures will then drop into Friday with a return to some wintry weather, with snow on higher ground.


Strong winds will develop on Wednesday and Thursday across parts of the UK

A deepening area of low pressure between Scotland and Iceland on Wednesday is bringing strong westerly winds, gales and even touching severe gales.

The Met Office has a yellow warning in force until 12:00 GMT in western and northern Scotland for gusts to reach 65-70mph (105-110km/h) and a small chance of up to 80mph (130km/h) in some locations.

The strongest winds will initially be felt in the Outer and Inner Hebrides before spreading into northern mainland Scotland and Orkney later on.

There could be some travel disruption such as cancelled ferries, flight delays and bridge restrictions for high-sided vehicles.

(BBC article continues)


"Some travel disruption is likely in the next few days as strenghtening winds develop across the United Kingdom"

Hopefully, Simon King, the BBC Lead Weather Presenter, is rather better at forecasting than spelling.


Spring (March 2026) Interrail Global Pass sale - rail ticket across 33 countries
In "Fare's Fair" [373239/31738/4]
Posted by grahame at 07:37, 11th March 2026
 
I am looking forward as the days get warmer and longer to travelling to new places.   Interrail are having a 15% off sale for the rest of this month - https://www.interrail.eu/en/interrail-passes/global-pass - on their global passes allowing anything from 4 days to 3 months of travel across 33 countries - and here are some pictures of mine taken (all bar one) during such a trip











On virtually all local and regional trains across mainland Europe, you can just "toggle" a train and jump on and off trains as you wish. 

Small print

In your home country, you are limited to 2 days - outbound and inbound is the idea.  And on long distance and international trains in some countries reservations are required at extra cost, and limited numbers only may be available.  Local tram underground, metro, tram, bus systems not included nor are private railways or many open access operators. And the price does not include accommodation, food and drink, entrance to museums and sites, phone roaming, shoe leather, souvenirs. or gifts to bring home for loved ones, all of which can add up

Re: Project Churchward - future regional fleet for the West, new rolling stock to replace DMUs
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [373238/27482/40]
Posted by Electric train at 07:35, 11th March 2026
 
Dft have updated their procurement spreadsheet March 2026

Against the GWR entry the estimated commencement date is now TBC (which presumably is Government speak for not imminent)


To Be Cancelled?

More like not letting a private TOC get the credit for it and/or letting the Scots figure out the procurement first. 

I agree the taking of the GWR franchise into GBR could be heralded with a fanfare of GBR have taken the initiative to order new trains for the TV and the West of England

Switzerland - At least six dead in bus fire - 10 March 2026
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [373237/31737/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 07:18, 11th March 2026
 
From the BBC:

At least six dead in Switzerland bus fire


The bus was engulfed in flames and gutted in the small Swiss town

At least six people have been killed and others injured after a bus caught fire in a town in western Switzerland, according to police.

The incident took place at around 18:25 local time (19:25 GMT) on Tuesday in the centre of Kerzers - known in French as Chiètres - in Fribourg canton, about 20km (12 miles) from the capital, Bern.

At least three people were taken to hospital, police said, and there were reports that a rescuer was also hurt.

The cause of the fire is not yet known but an investigation is under way into whether it was deliberately started.

There have been reports that a person doused themselves in gasoline but the authorities said they could not immediately confirm this.

Video posted by local media shows a bus in flames and a local resident described seeing a thick column of smoke.

The bus involved had reportedly travelled from the Düdingen municipality, 17km south of Kerzers.

In a post on X, Swiss President Guy Parmelin said that it "shocks and saddens me that people have lost their lives in a serious fire in Switzerland".

Forty-one people were killed in a deadly fire that broke out in a Swiss ski resort on New Year's Eve.


MOVED: WWIT? 24th October 2012.
In "The Lighter Side" [373236/31736/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 05:10, 11th March 2026
 
This topic has been moved to Railway History and related topics and merged with other related posts there.

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=6335.0

MOVED: Clifton Rocks Railway, Bristol - Open Days
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [373235/31735/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 04:39, 11th March 2026
 
This topic has been moved to Railway History and related topics and merged with other related posts there.

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=6335.0

Re: OTD- 11th March (1893) - Opening of Clifton Rocks Railway
In "Railway History and related topics" [373234/6335/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 04:32, 11th March 2026
 
From https://www.cliftonrocksrailway.org.uk/

The Clifton Rocks Railway Trust has been formed by a group of volunteers to restore the Railway.  Supported by the Avon Gorge Hotel, Bristol City Council and sponsored by a number of local companies, the Trust is working hard to restore elements of the railway.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [373233/31359/18]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 22:22, 10th March 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Wouldn't the re-routed trains appear on the station departure boards in some form?

Very likely - though I'm not when. Not there to observe

You can view the boards online can't you? How do the boards I see in people's houses work? That feed is presumably free?

You can.  Indeed the forum header text links to a few of the busier ones.

Here is Melksham:
https://tiger.worldline.global/MELKSHM/cisds

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [373232/31359/18]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:25, 10th March 2026
 
Wouldn't the re-routed trains appear on the station departure boards in some form?

Very likely - though I'm not when. Not there to observe

You can view the boards online can't you? How do the boards I see in people's houses work? That feed is presumably free?

 
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