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15.7.2025 (Tuesday) 21:41 - All running AOK
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Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [363235/489/12]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:56, 15th July 2025
 
Would the sleeper fit (including the inwards loco)?

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [363234/489/12]
Posted by grahame at 20:54, 15th July 2025
 
How long is platform 3 in terms of coach-lengths?

6.35

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [363233/489/12]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:03, 15th July 2025
 
How long is platform 3 in terms of coach-lengths?

Re: Swanage Railway - merged posts and ongoing discussion
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [363232/2353/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:24, 15th July 2025
 
From the BBC:

Steam railway 'causes seventh summer fire'



A steam train on a heritage line has caused a seventh fire by the attraction this summer, a fire service has said.

Dorset & Wiltshire Fire Service sent three vehicles to a field blaze near Corfe Castle at about 13:15 BST on Monday. It said the fire was quickly put out and crews spent some time damping down.

Swanage Railway, which operates between Swanage and Norden - via Corfe, has been approached for comment.

According to its website on Tuesday, the line is currently running heritage diesel rather than steam trains due to a "high fire risk".

In a statement, the fire service said: "It is believed to have been caused by the steam train. Since 1 June 2025, we've had seven similar incidents reported in this area."

Temperatures have now cooled following the UK's third heatwave of the year. Highs of 20C (68F) are expected in Corfe Castle on Tuesday.


Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [363231/489/12]
Posted by grahame at 17:59, 15th July 2025
 
In the case of the Up sleeper I'm not sure being dumped off at Reading at 0430 and having to wait for services to start up in order to get to Paddington would really be a very attractive prospect?

That's not quite what I was suggesting though ... the suggestion was for the sleeper services to terminate and stay resident in a quieter platform for a number of hours ... platform 3 may not be needed for reversal of Cross County trains until (?) what time for example, and in the evening to start from there.

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [363230/489/12]
Posted by bobm at 17:08, 15th July 2025
Already liked by JayMac, TaplowGreen, eightonedee
 
In the case of the Up sleeper I'm not sure being dumped off at Reading at 0430 and having to wait for services to start up in order to get to Paddington would really be a very attractive prospect?

Unless you are a very dedicated Janner, you might say the same about Plymouth on the down!

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [363229/489/12]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:06, 15th July 2025
 
23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55
23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55 will be started from Reading.

It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.


There is no loco at Reading to work the empty sleeper set into Paddington, the same reason the sleeper terminated at Reading in the morning.

Last nights up sleeper from Penzance has a 57 on the rear to resolve that issue

In various other bits of research I'm doing, it's not unheard of for a sleeper service to terminate / start somewhere on the outskirts of a city, with passengers transferring in or out via other public transport in the area. Most notable is Halkali which is a ride of about 45 minutes into / out from Istanbul.    Perhaps it allows rather more space to be provided for / and for a longer load / unload time at a station that's out of town rather that resource hogging in the centre at the start / end of each day?  I am very tempted - and awaiting howls of protest - to suggest that Stirling might be an excellent hub for the Scottish sleepers, though still providing through carriages that call there during the night to/from far flung places such as Fort William, Inverness, Oban and Aberdeen.

In the case of the Up sleeper I'm not sure being dumped off at Reading at 0430 and having to wait for services to start up in order to get to Paddington would really be a very attractive prospect?

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [363226/489/12]
Posted by grahame at 11:12, 15th July 2025
 
23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55
23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55 will be started from Reading.

It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.


There is no loco at Reading to work the empty sleeper set into Paddington, the same reason the sleeper terminated at Reading in the morning.

Last nights up sleeper from Penzance has a 57 on the rear to resolve that issue

In various other bits of research I'm doing, it's not unheard of for a sleeper service to terminate / start somewhere on the outskirts of a city, with passengers transferring in or out via other public transport in the area. Most notable is Halkali which is a ride of about 45 minutes into / out from Istanbul.    Perhaps it allows rather more space to be provided for / and for a longer load / unload time at a station that's out of town rather that resource hogging in the centre at the start / end of each day?  I am very tempted - and awaiting howls of protest - to suggest that Stirling might be an excellent hub for the Scottish sleepers, though still providing through carriages that call there during the night to/from far flung places such as Fort William, Inverness, Oban and Aberdeen.

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [363225/489/12]
Posted by bobm at 08:26, 15th July 2025
Already liked by Worcester_Passenger, matth1j, Ralph Ayres, Witham Bobby, rogerw, Mark A, a-driver, GBM, TonyK, JayMac
 
Given the above and the reason given on Journeycheck as “a problem under investigation” I have visions of someone walking round Reading Traincare Depot scratching their head and saying “I’m sure there was a class 57 here somewhere.”

Home again - 14th July 2025
In "Introductions and chat" [363224/30453/1]
Posted by grahame at 07:33, 15th July 2025
Already liked by Mark A, matth1j, Witham Bobby, Timmer
 
Home, on the last northbound train last night into Melksham - started from the old town in St Malo in the morning. Full(er) reports to follow during the next few days.   And final round of this year's Interrail pass starts in a few days.


Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [363223/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:07, 15th July 2025
 
Delays to services between West Ealing and Greenford

Due to a fault with the signalling system between West Ealing and Greenford all lines are blocked.
Train services running to and from these stations will be delayed. Disruption is expected until 07:45 15/07.

Customer Advice

Due to a fault with the signalling system between West Ealing and Greenford, the line is currently blocked.


Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [363222/489/12]
Posted by a-driver at 03:40, 15th July 2025
 
23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55
23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55 will be started from Reading.

It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.


There is no loco at Reading to work the empty sleeper set into Paddington, the same reason the sleeper terminated at Reading in the morning.

Last nights up sleeper from Penzance has a 57 on the rear to resolve that issue

Royal Welsh Show 2025
In "Shorter journeys in South and West Wales" [363221/30452/23]
Posted by welsh1980 at 22:31, 14th July 2025
Already liked by Timmer, Mark A, Witham Bobby
 
Its that time of the year again and TFW have announced details of this years Royal Welsh show timetable.

It seems this year the service will run to Llandrindod according to RTT rather than Builth Road as usual.This is a good decision given the set gets stabled at Llandrindod anyway.

The service will run from Cardiff at 0659 on Monday/Wednesday/Thurs with an arrival at Builth Road at 0954 calling at Bridgend, Port Talbot and then appears to go via Neath (not calling) and Landore rather than the Swansea District Line, calling at Llanelli, Bynea and then all stations to Llandrindod. But on Tuesday there is an earlier departure from Cardiff at 0632 and according to RTT it will go via the district line calling at Bridgend, Port Talbot then Pontarddulais etc arriving in Builth Road a lot earlier.

Any guesses what might be booked for the service? Im guessing a 150 or a pair of 150s maybe if there are enough spare.

The usual HOWL services will also be running, I wonder if there will be capacity to add extra carriages. Obviously 197s are not cleared for the HOWL so it will have to be 153s and 150s.  Lets hope the service will be more reliable this year than other years.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [363220/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 21:33, 14th July 2025
 
Monday July 14

1W31 15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern (18:26) : late arrival from depot, departed +34, arrived Shrub Hill +33 and cancelled thereafter.

19:02 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:26 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to congestion.
Last Updated:14/07/2025 17:41

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance
In "London to the West" [363219/489/12]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 19:52, 14th July 2025
 
23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55
23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:55 will be started from Reading.

It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [363217/29726/18]
Posted by rogerw at 18:14, 14th July 2025
 
BBC Bristol referred to cancellations from Swindon due to a late running freight train. I thought that was a bit strange but your post explains it JayMac

Re: Seagulls, particularly in Cornwall - ongoing discussion
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [363216/29073/31]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 16:52, 14th July 2025
Already liked by matth1j, rogerw, GBM
 
I will consult my own cat as to his opinion on the subjects you raise and get back to you.

Re: Plane crashes at Southend Airport - BBC News 13/07/2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [363215/30450/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:18, 14th July 2025
 
Thanks for your posts, JayMac.

Sad news.

Re: Plane crashes at Southend Airport - BBC News 13/07/2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [363214/30450/51]
Posted by JayMac at 16:12, 14th July 2025
 
Police have confirmed that four people, all foreign nationals, died in the crash. Southend Airport remains closed as of 3pm 14/07/2025.

Re: 30 cancellations on the North Downs this morning
In "North Downs Line" [363213/30321/16]
Posted by Fourbee at 15:35, 14th July 2025
 
Another email from GWR today extolling the benefits of taking the train to Gatwick Airport:
Trains every 30 minutes from Reading to Gatwick mean you can wave goodbye to travel stress and enjoy a smooth ride, arriving in 90 minutes**

I thought those asterisks would be doing a lot of heavy lifting, but they're not really:
**Average journey time from Reading.

At least there's a nice animation of a 3-car IET in it!

Re: Seagulls, particularly in Cornwall - ongoing discussion
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [363212/29073/31]
Posted by broadgage at 15:20, 14th July 2025
 
IME, cats do not pursue flying ants in order to eat them.
If however a flying ant lands on a cat, then the cat will pick up the pest in its mouth and eat it. This is believed to be instinctive behavior, in order to destroy any fleas that infest the cat. I doubt that the cat knows the difference between a flea and a flying ant instinct is to destroy either.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [363211/29726/18]
Posted by JayMac at 15:12, 14th July 2025
 
Root cause was a SPAD by a freight train at Thingley Junction, with the driver unable to continue. The freight train has just resumed its journey with a relief driver.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [363210/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 14:48, 14th July 2025
 
14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:00

14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59

15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59 will be cancelled.
This is due to a late running freight train.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [363209/18719/26]
Posted by BBM at 13:04, 14th July 2025
 
Henley Branch now affected:

https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service-disruptions/twyford-20250714/

Unavailability of train drivers due to sickness means service between Twyford and Henley-on-Thames has been suspended. Trains running between these stations will be cancelled.

Disruption is expected until 14:00.

Customer advice

Rail replacement transport has been requested.

Limpley Stoke B3108 bridge damage repair
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [363208/30451/20]
Posted by Mark A at 12:05, 14th July 2025
 
This article lists the road as closed at the Limpley Stoke rail bridge for six weeks from Monday 21st July - with the closure order allowing for 18 months. Not mentioned is any effect on rail traffic so perhaps the work's being done without interruption to that.

Mark

https://www.bathecho.co.uk/news/community/damaged-railway-bridge-close-six-weeks-111747/

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [363207/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 10:29, 14th July 2025
 
09:46 Westbury to Swindon due 10:28

09:46 Westbury to Swindon due 10:28 is being delayed at Trowbridge.
This is due to a fault on this train.

26 minutes late departure from Trowbridge. As it is due to sit at Swindon from 10:28 to 11:05 before returning it should be just the one run that's delayed.

Originally, the 10:02 from Melksham was planned to be at 10:32, and at the time the previous train was 07:50 ... suggested by the community (and perhaps others and an analysis of passenger needs) these trains are now 08:02 and 10:02, with a longer gap then to 12:32.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [363206/29726/18]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:07, 14th July 2025
 
The railway, nationally, has always run on volunteers working additional shifts.
And ironically, since privatisation, salaries have risen to such an extent that those volunteers no longer want the overtime, and their employers have done nothing to fill the gap.

That's true, though there are still plenty of additional shifts being worked, just not enough. 

Also, since privatisation, there has been a significant uplift in the number of daily services run without enough additional drivers taken on.

 
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