| New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by anthony215 at 10:26, 3rd September 2025 |     |
Rail magazine published an article saying TFW planning to start a 2 hourly service between West wales/Cardiff to Bristol Temple meads from September 2026.
Service will seve Newport, Severn tunnel junction, filton Abbey Wood and Stapleton road using 197/0's
https://www.railmagazine.com/news/transport-for-wales-plans-new-bristol-temple-meads-service
| Re: New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by Phantom at 11:30, 3rd September 2025 | |
Rail magazine published an article saying TFW planning to start a 2 hourly service between West wales/Cardiff to Bristol Temple meads from September 2026.
Service will seve Newport, Severn tunnel junction, filton Abbey Wood and Stapleton road using 197/0's
https://www.railmagazine.com/news/transport-for-wales-plans-new-bristol-temple-meads-service
Service will seve Newport, Severn tunnel junction, filton Abbey Wood and Stapleton road using 197/0's
https://www.railmagazine.com/news/transport-for-wales-plans-new-bristol-temple-meads-service
Assume this is in addition not instead of the current GWR service that comes up the M5 corridor to Cardiff?
Is there space in the timetable for additional services?
| Re: New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by Red Squirrel at 11:44, 3rd September 2025 | |
Assume this is in addition not instead of the current GWR service that comes up the M5 corridor to Cardiff?
Is there space in the timetable for additional services?
The article says:
TfW said its two-hourly service has been timed to fit between GWR trains “to maximise passenger journey opportunities over this section of the route as well as the direct connectivity for passengers travelling to/from the west of Cardiff”.
Not sure what spare capacity there is through the Severn Tunnel, though. TfW have also spoken of a 2tph stopper between Cardiff and Bristol; FIT to BRI should have capacity but STJ to FIT could be... interesting.
| Re: New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by Mark A at 12:11, 3rd September 2025 | |
Good. Can someone please do the same for Bristol - Hereford - Shrewsbury - Chester.
Mark
| Re: New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by John D at 12:48, 3rd September 2025 | |
The 197/0 are the 2car versions with 116 seats
If some of them are going to be combined (effectively extensions) of services to Cardiff from the West of Wales, then I do wonder about sufficient capacity.
Is this a temporary idea pending the proposed 6 extra stations that are due to be built with 170m platforms so 7 (long) car or 8 (20m) car trains can be used
| Re: New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by grahame at 13:47, 3rd September 2025 | |
Not sure what spare capacity there is through the Severn Tunnel, though.
There are no longer the slower coal / freight trains going through, (nor the international motorail services
)| Re: New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by anthony215 at 14:35, 3rd September 2025 | |
The 197/0 are the 2car versions with 116 seats
If some of them are going to be combined (effectively extensions) of services to Cardiff from the West of Wales, then I do wonder about sufficient capacity.
Is this a temporary idea pending the proposed 6 extra stations that are due to be built with 170m platforms so 7 (long) car or 8 (20m) car trains can be used
If some of them are going to be combined (effectively extensions) of services to Cardiff from the West of Wales, then I do wonder about sufficient capacity.
Is this a temporary idea pending the proposed 6 extra stations that are due to be built with 170m platforms so 7 (long) car or 8 (20m) car trains can be used
I suspect this service in time will be replaced by at least an.hourly all stopping seevice between Cardiff and Bristol TM. I do believe that there is enough capacity for these no MGR trains any more will help
| Re: New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by anthony215 at 14:37, 3rd September 2025 | |
Bit more information here:
https://sacuksprodnrdigital0001.blob.core.windows.net/sale-of-access-rights/Consultations/Current%20Track%20Access%20Consultations/22.08.2025%20-%20Transport%20for%20Wales%20Ltd%20-%20Section%2022A%20-%2052nd%20SA%20-%20Closes%2022.09.2025/TfWRL%2052nd%20(Bristol)%20Form%20P.pdf
| Re: New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by WelshBluebird at 17:16, 3rd September 2025 | |
Is this essentially the start of the new services that were mentioned in the consultation a year or two ago?
If so somewhat disappointed at the limited stopping pattern as it was originally planned to be a true stopping services from what was initially shared, but now Patchway, Ashley Down and Lawrence Hill miss out.
| Re: New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:22, 3rd September 2025 | |
Another case of 'Over promise, but underdeliver' possibly.
| Re: New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by anthony215 at 18:14, 3rd September 2025 | |
Is this essentially the start of the new services that were mentioned in the consultation a year or two ago?
If so somewhat disappointed at the limited stopping pattern as it was originally planned to be a true stopping services from what was initially shared, but now Patchway, Ashley Down and Lawrence Hill miss out
If so somewhat disappointed at the limited stopping pattern as it was originally planned to be a true stopping services from what was initially shared, but now Patchway, Ashley Down and Lawrence Hill miss out
I disagree I think its testing the water. Given the new stations tfw want to run an hourly 1tph to Bristol TM at least using a class 756. That's another reason why they are looking to order new units
| Re: New TFW Cardiff and West Wales to Bristol Temple Meads service Posted by grahame at 18:51, 3rd September 2025 | |
Is this essentially the start of the new services that were mentioned in the consultation a year or two ago?
The ORR document shared (and I have grabbed a copy for our archive) is nearly two years old ...
