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Author Topic: Carriage of surfboards on FGW services  (Read 9336 times)
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« on: October 21, 2011, 10:14:39 »

Moderator note: This discussion about carriage of surfboards on FGW (First Great Western) services has been split from another topic.

Also another thought for Cornish branch lines a 4 wheel trolley for bikes/surfboards it could could be pushed/pulled as the driver could see over it.

Surfboards are banned full stop according to the NRCoC (National Rail Conditions of Carriage), but FGW allow them, however, we have recently been
instructed to CHARGE for surfboards, not ban them, this is also correct according to the NRCoC, they are charged half fare with a maximum fare of ^5.00 and I think this is fair bear in mind that they are banned on planes and busses and take up the space of around 8 or 9 suitcases on a train.
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 13:03:09 »

Surfboards are banned full stop according to the NRCoC (National Rail Conditions of Carriage), but FGW (First Great Western) allow them, however, we have recently been instructed to CHARGE for surfboards, not ban them, this is also correct according to the NRCoC, they are charged half fare with a maximum fare of ^5.00 and I think this is fair bear in mind that they are banned on planes and busses and take up the space of around 8 or 9 suitcases on a train.

Was there not a query raised at one point where they are acceptable on HSS (High Speed Services)'s and not on West units?
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 14:05:33 »

Absolutely. Vacman must mean HSTs (High Speed Train) as surfboards are not allowed on any services apart from those operated by HSTs and those are the only services that the accompanied article charge should be made on. Now I think it would be a good idea if FGW (First Great Western) told all their staff this again and again as not everyone seems to have read the memo that was issued about six weeks ago.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 17:20:38 »

Almost makes it impossible to make a surfing trip to the Newquay! THE place to go to surf!!
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2011, 10:26:58 »

Funnily enough I encountered a "victim" of vacman the other day with a surfboard at Plymouth  Wink

The memo quite clearly says services "formed of a HST (High Speed Train)" and "FGW (First Great Western) HSTs only".

However, I believe this memo is going under review again as has been pointing out we are "one company" and many will need to use units/turbos etc to connect with HSTs.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2011, 22:27:39 »

Just my opinion, but I reckon jester and vacman should discourage anyone apparently intent on putting to sea on a surfboard in the North Atlantic off Cornwall in November ...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2011, 22:58:45 »

I've seen the brave (foolhardy?) dudes and dudettes who take to the sea at Fistral around this time of year. There's some awesome, boss, off the wall curls to be had when the wind and tide conditions are rad. Some can be a little gnarly though. But still better than the ankle busters you often get in the Summer months, fer sure.

Fun to watch, especially when someone wipes out, drinks a Neptune Cocktail, has a sand facial and ends up on the shore selling Buicks.

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2011, 23:01:45 »

Well, pardon me for my rather more prosaic post!  Shocked Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2011, 17:26:29 »

Just my opinion, but I reckon jester and vacman should discourage anyone apparently intent on putting to sea on a surfboard in the North Atlantic off Cornwall in November ...  Roll Eyes

The fact that the sea temperature is greatest at this time of year, and the air temperature is proportionally lower, it is actually rather pleasent I believe.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2011, 00:48:06 »

Edited my earlier post to add: dudettes.  Cheesy

Got chatting to two lasses who were carrying surfboards at Bristol TM(resolve) last evening. Spooked them a bit with my opening gambit (who is this stranger asking us about our surfboards?) With this thread in mind I asked them if they have had issues with carrying surfboards on FGW (First Great Western) services. They explained that they try wherever possible to travel on lightly loaded trains, and always seek permission from the TM/Guard/Conductor before boarding. They also told me that during the summer holiday season they avoid trains and use surfing forums to arrange road transport. They were from Stroud of all places! Looks like a bit of common sense can go a long way. These two 'dudettes' were stopping in Bristol for the evening before heading off early doors tomorrow on the 0524 Bristol TM - Par. They also explained that the meteorological conditions this time of year are particularly conducive to good surfing at Fistral.

Pointed them in the direction of this forum as well.....  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2011, 01:15:40 »

Surely not charging for the carriage of surfboards would be a good way to encourage patronage of holiday makers and younger people who might not use the railway.

With a guard's van and the power car stores, there's not exactly a shortage of space. Just make the spaces reservable in advance.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2011, 01:31:27 »

With a guard's van and the power car stores, there's not exactly a shortage of space. Just make the spaces reservable in advance.

The issue remains though: What policy for surfboards on connecting non-HST (High Speed Train) services?
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 17:55:07 »

Strict charging for surf boards is about to be enforced by FGW (First Great Western)
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 18:19:13 »

Interesting. The NRCoC (National Rail Conditions of Carriage) says these are prohibited anyway. But similar things like skis and ski boards are (at no charge). Do they perhaps mean that they are about to offer a chargeable option to take them (and none was available before?).
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 18:25:10 »

How about the canoe that was on the train today??  Is that chargeable ?? Roll Eyes
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