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« Reply #450 on: November 16, 2015, 12:12:48 » |
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Probably unsurprising, but there will need to be some stock and timetable adjustments to the new timetable ASAP to quell complaints from Bicester passengers. Apparently more have stuck with Bicester North as starting point for their commute, rather than migrating to Bicester Village, than Chiltern expected. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-34830043 |
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« Reply #451 on: November 16, 2015, 12:49:21 » |
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Not sure I agree with the headline though: A rail company has admitted its service on a new ^320m rail line linking Oxford and London is "not up to standard", weeks after it opened. If anything the 'Oxford to London' line actually has more seats available than required by the sounds of it. It's the Bicester North/Banbury passengers that are suffering. |
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« Reply #452 on: November 16, 2015, 13:33:10 » |
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I note "He said changes were being made to timetables and additional carriages, becoming available in mid-December, would make the service "significantly better"."
Where are they coming from?
Adjsutments really not unexpected - very hard to forecast, and it looks like there might have been contingency plans in place in case the switch between stations wasn's as expected.
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« Reply #453 on: November 16, 2015, 13:36:40 » |
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Where are they coming from?
Good question. I didn't think the remaining TPE▸ trains for conversion to 168/3s were arriving until next February? |
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« Reply #454 on: November 16, 2015, 13:59:02 » |
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Maybe they'll bring them in pre-conversion & send them away one at a time?
But it isn't a surprise to them - I brought this up in the consultation & asked to see their calculations/estimates of just how many they thought would transfer. Unless they sell car park specific seasons for the Village station, pax won't take the risk of not getting one of the relatively few spaces there & so stick with North station.
And then discussed it at length with the Business Development team. Sorry to say I was proved correct.
There are also capacity issues in the heartlands, some of which they need to address. Changes afoot for all in Dec15 timetable. I just hope they'll consult on it, but I'm extremely doubtful, citing shortage of time.
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« Reply #455 on: November 16, 2015, 18:03:48 » |
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With something as complex as a railway timetable, and with less than a month to go, a new round of consultation is unlikely in the extreme.
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« Reply #456 on: November 16, 2015, 18:07:31 » |
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Agreed, but they could give their Passenger Board a weekend to look at it. Members represent the whole route between them
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« Reply #457 on: November 18, 2015, 16:02:38 » |
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Where are they coming from?
Good question. I didn't think the remaining TPE▸ trains for conversion to 168/3s were arriving until next February? According to the latest RAIL, one of the initial batch of 168/3s is still to arrive from conversion at Wabtec, so that must be the additional carriages they speak of. All two of them! Four units still to come early next year and there's also a hint of taking a few more of their stored MKIII's back into service, so longer term perhaps another loco-hauled rake will be brought in, or the present ones lengthened? |
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« Reply #458 on: November 18, 2015, 16:12:14 » |
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And Rail is always right?
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« Reply #459 on: November 18, 2015, 16:21:03 » |
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Nope, not always. Makes sense though, with regard to the one unit still to come following conversion - I had thought that all five of the first batch were here already. 168324 is the unit, so as you're a regular traveller, perhaps you can keep an eye out for it?
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« Reply #460 on: November 18, 2015, 16:24:54 » |
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If those are the 'extra' coaches they are referring to, they'll get loads of complaints as they have already announced them as coming....so effectively double-counting. And they really need the others to make a difference.
Your assumption might be right, I guess. Disengenuous if so, and won't solve their problems in the peak.
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« Reply #461 on: November 18, 2015, 16:48:24 » |
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Perhaps also some strengthening here and there and weakening elsewhere might also reap some rewards, i.e. if the Bicester Village route is quieter than expected then take some carriages off of that and put them onto Bicester North route services maybe?
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« Reply #462 on: November 18, 2015, 16:52:45 » |
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Yep...although it'll be difficult as those are generally simgle unit workings, and they won't want to use 165 turbos on that route.
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« Reply #463 on: November 18, 2015, 17:42:06 » |
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Apparently, the timetable changes are being announced either tonight or tomorrow. Certainly this week, I'm told. But no chance of any further changes
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« Reply #464 on: November 18, 2015, 18:06:00 » |
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Apparently, the timetable changes are being announced either tonight or tomorrow. Certainly this week, I'm told. But no chance of any further changes
Are these the changes that are shown here for Dec 13th, or were they already online? http://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/download-our-timetablePaul |
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