Chiltern Evergreen 3 project - ongoing discussion

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[chuffed]

Just to echo II's findings on the 'new' Bicester line and curve. I was surprised he didn't mention the full sized wall display ticket machines at Oxford Parkway.I thought they were advertising posters at first,as they are the same size and brightness as the standard illuminated  poster display panels. I did wonder about security as it seems that all your journey info appears on the screen and can be read at a distance.
My journey took me on to High Wycombe, and a short walk from the rail to the bus station,where I can recommend the Food Fountain with fantastic food and friendly faces. Sorry about the alliteration but I was doing a Leonard Sachs type chairman at an Old Tyme Music hall last night! As my friend and I have concessionary bus passes, we then took the Arriva max 300 to Aylesbury (where my friend espied the Chiltern 121 bubble car) and then another Arriva 280 sapphire double decker back to Oxford rail station via Thame. A lovely day out with the Oxford dark blue brick of Parkway station contrasting very nicely with the Autumn colours of the Chilterns still very much in evidence.
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[ChrisB]

I did wonder about security as it seems that all your journey info appears on the screen and can be read at a distance.

Is that a problem, really? No card/payment info appears, just journey details. Do you really think that others will read over your shoulder? And does that really matter to most/any?

[grahame]

I did wonder about security as it seems that all your journey info appears on the screen and can be read at a distance.

Is that a problem, really? No card/payment info appears, just journey details. Do you really think that others will read over your shoulder? And does that really matter to most/any?

Interesting question, ChrisB ... I found myself wondering about privacy / security the other day when the on train ticket inspector on the HST^▸ (High Speed Train) read out my journey details aloud (though I'm quite happy to tell you here I was travelling from Didcot to Melksham) ... and I was then concerned on Friday when a lady who claimed to be from Wiltshire Council came to check on our electoral role entry and had an plainly readable list of the addresses she was visiting,  with tics or "n/r" (no reply?) against those she had already been to.    Problem is, I guess, where you draw the line.

[ChrisB]

While you're simply a bod on a train (i.e. no personal info visible to others to ID you) - I personally see no problem with non-personal items like a journey being disclosed - unless other info likely to 'interest' others is also being disclosed, I see no problem.....

However, addresses are personal, especially when visible to neighbours who may well know exactly who lives in which house. So no problem with your first example, but I think I might have said something to your lady in the second!

[grahame]

While you're simply a bod on a train (i.e. no personal info visible to others to ID you) - I personally see no problem with non-personal items like a journey being disclosed - unless other info likely to 'interest' others is also being disclosed, I see no problem.....

I don't particularly want to be latched onto by the inebriated person in the next seat who wants a lift home from the station when he discovers that I, too, an travelling to Melksham,

However, addresses are personal, especially when visible to neighbours who may well know exactly who lives in which house. So no problem with your first example, but I think I might have said something to your lady in the second!

Oh - I've only touched the tip of the iceberg with that story ... matter raised with the local council, who tell us not to trust people on our doorstep who turn up without ID, then (supposedly if she was genuine) send someone around without proper ID ... asking people to sign pieces of paper.   Probably legit, but they really should pracise what they preach.

[ChrisB]

While you're simply a bod on a train (i.e. no personal info visible to others to ID you) - I personally see no problem with non-personal items like a journey being disclosed - unless other info likely to 'interest' others is also being disclosed, I see no problem.....

I don't particularly want to be latched onto by the inebriated person in the next seat who wants a lift home from the station when he discovers that I, too, an travelling to Melksham,

Guards/TMs^‡(resolve) are just as likely to advise you of connections/times though, so pretty easy for someone?....even if they don't read aloud your ticket. Difficult one that, because a lot of pax appreciate this info.

[Richard Fairhurst]

Is that a problem, really? No card/payment info appears, just journey details. Do you really think that others will read over your shoulder? And does that really matter to most/any?

It would matter to me when I travel with my bike: if someone sees me load the bike onto the train at Charlbury, and knows I'm travelling to (say) Hereford, they've got a chance of offloading it at an intermediate station. I do try to keep an eye on it where I can, but that's not always possible on an HST^▸ (High Speed Train), especially if the thief is smart enough to find a way out at the far end of the platform.

[SandTEngineer]

Is that a problem, really? No card/payment info appears, just journey details. Do you really think that others will read over your shoulder? And does that really matter to most/any?

It would matter to me when I travel with my bike: if someone sees me load the bike onto the train at Charlbury, and knows I'm travelling to (say) Hereford, they've got a chance of offloading it at an intermediate station. I do try to keep an eye on it where I can, but that's not always possible on an HST^▸ (High Speed Train), especially if the thief is smart enough to find a way out at the far end of the platform.

In the past I've seen people chain and padlock the bike to the luggage rack to overcome that 

[bobm]

Possibly over sensitive, but I live on my own.  Had to take an assistant at the chemists to task when she asked my address while collecting a prescription and I only gave her the name of the road and not the number.  Now with my name and the road I think she had enough to know it was genuine.  After explaining it to her, she saw my point and now she remembers when I come in!

[IndustryInsider]

Just to echo II's findings on the 'new' Bicester line and curve. I was surprised he didn't mention the full sized wall display ticket machines at Oxford Parkway.I thought they were advertising posters at first,as they are the same size and brightness as the standard illuminated  poster display panels.

I didn't notice them to be honest - didn't need a ticket. 

One other thing I forgot to mention was the multi-lingual announcements for when the train arrives at Bicester Village - two Asian languages, Mandarin one of them presumably?  Nice touch, though I'm sure that will only get those locals that want to keep Bicester's identity even more riled up!

[ChrisB]

Mandarin & Japanese

[TonyK]

While you're simply a bod on a train (i.e. no personal info visible to others to ID you) - I personally see no problem with non-personal items like a journey being disclosed - unless other info likely to 'interest' others is also being disclosed, I see no problem.....

However, addresses are personal, especially when visible to neighbours who may well know exactly who lives in which house. So no problem with your first example, but I think I might have said something to your lady in the second!

I was born in March, in the Year of the Monkey (h^uzi IIRC^▸ (if I recall/remember/read correctly)) and leave you to decide the context. Like Dave, I live at No 10. Also like Dave, I went to Eton.

[bobm]

But you've bought me a pint. Dave never has.

[TonyK]

But you've bought me a pint. Dave never has.

And look forward to so doing again! Dave paid for my daughter's glass of wine once. Michael Foot was the last politician to buy me a pint (see posts passim)

[JayMac]

I went to Eton.

I've been to Eton too. But I didn't like the pub I found so I walked back across the Town Bridge to Windsor.

No politician has ever bought me a pint. But Tom King did once give me a generous tip.