Long Rock depot, Penzance - facilities, improvements & incidents (merged posts)

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[Red Squirrel]

Anyone fancy telling Google? I don't seem to have much luck with this kind of thing...

[TaplowGreen]

.....wasn't someone talking about building a wall?

[TonyK]

Anyone fancy telling Google? I don't seem to have much luck with this kind of thing...

I'll have a bash.

[TonyK]

I have had a reply, and the map has been edited.





I suspect I fared better than you because of my earlier success in a hard-won battle to get my house marked correctly. This wasn't out of vanity, but from having to direct people for the last half-mile from the former petrol station where Google thought I lived.

[Red Squirrel]

Well they're still telling me that they can't verify the fact that Bristol Bridge is closed to private cars. But they're no longer routing cars over it. Go figure!

[TonyK]

Well they're still telling me that they can't verify the fact that Bristol Bridge is closed to private cars. But they're no longer routing cars over it. Go figure!

I told them that it was closed following a fatal accident and an inquest. That trumps a Marvellous Marvin Mayoral Mandate.

[Red Squirrel]

Well they're still telling me that they can't verify the fact that Bristol Bridge is closed to private cars. But they're no longer routing cars over it. Go figure!

I told them that it was closed following a fatal accident and an inquest. That trumps a Marvellous Marvin Mayoral Mandate.

...even when it's backed up by Kye's Careful Car-free Consideration?

[Andy]

On 3rd January, Cornwall Railway Society website reports a rumour that there are plans to extend Long Rock Depot with three sidings at Ponsandane to provide extra space. Can anyone confirm or deny?  Thanks.

[broadgage]

Sounds a good idea IF true. Hopefully able to take a 10 car, not 5+5 IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - the now official name for the replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)). And yes I know that they are not that length now, but planning for the future?

As is well known, I dont think much of IETs, but we are stuck them for many years yet. A future operator might improve them by lengthening and making them into proper inter city units.

[IndustryInsider]

Sounds a good idea IF true. Hopefully able to take a 10 car, not 5+5 IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - the now official name for the replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)). And yes I know that they are not that length now, but planning for the future?

It has been talked about, but I've heard of no definite green light for it to happen yet.

It would certainly be sensible for each road to be able to take two 5-car units, and therefore a 9-car, though looking at the land available getting all three sidings to be the required length might be a stretch.  I would imagine funding would only be provided for the minimum of what is required and I think any thoughts of 9-car trains being extended to 10-car can now be parked in the siding (if you will excuse the pun) for many years given recent events.  On that basis I would not be surprised if something like two 9-car and one 5-car length is what will eventually be provided.  That is pure speculation on my part though.

[Andy]

Thanks for the replies. I dare say it wouldn't happen until (unless) the industry recovers from the current situation, so probably not for quite some time.
 

[GBM]

From journeycheck https://www.journeycheck.com/greatwesternrailway/
08:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 13:29
08:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 13:29 will be started from Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Penzance, St Erth, Camborne, Redruth, Truro, St Austell, Par, Bodmin Parkway and Liskeard.
This is due to a derailment within the depot.
Further Information

If you hold a valid single, return, or weekly ticket, you will be able to claim compensation for delays of 15 minutes or more. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway).com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:26/02/2021 02:18

Not sure what that means.
The only cancellation is the 08h15, all other departures from the depot and Penzance seem to have run on time.
Assuming this one derailed but it didn't affect any other lines.

[GWR 158]

08:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 13:29 will be started from Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Penzance, St Erth, Camborne, Redruth, Truro, St Austell, Par, Bodmin Parkway and Liskeard.
This is due to a derailment within the depot.

This happened this morning (26/2/21)

Does anybody know what stock derailed?

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[IndustryInsider]

It was a Class 08 pilot shunter and a seating carriage from the sleeper - this one to be precise:  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Long_Rock_Sidings_-_GWR_Mark_3_TSO_12100.JPG

[Kernowman]

The three new sidings at Ponsandane (between Longrock and Penzance) are still not completed. Work started clearing and preparing the site in June 2021, two and a half years ago, the halt in work, I believe, due to awaiting planning permission to move an ariel mast. This is possibly one of the reasons that two of the five nine-car Paddington IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - the now official name for the replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan))’s that end up in Penzance in the evening spend the night at Laira (One does a local to Plymouth, the other goes ECS^▸ (Empty Coaching Stock)). This project is possibly worthy of some kind of ‘Duration’ (other descriptions might also be appropriate) Award, although it’s facing stiff competition from the Lostwithiel Footbridge project for such an award. Another future contender is the St Ives branch with platforms extended in early 2022 for longer trains which, two years later, have yet to materialise.