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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2011, 07:40:00 »

In effect, stations with short platforms are served by means of  local door operation.  Avoncliff and Melksham spring to mind.  The guard has to go through the train asking if there are pax (passengers) for these stations and then open just the 'local door' without releasing all the other doors on that side of the train, as is the normal West unit practice. On 150 xxx trains, prams and bikes can be dealt with by the guard opening the first double leaf door from outside on the platform.

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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2011, 14:08:05 »

...as is the normal West unit practice.

Though sadly the same can't be said for LTV (London [and] Thames Valley) services that have a Guard.  Although rare, that means that if a 3-car Turbo finds its way on an Up Cotswold Line service booked to call at Shipton (or Combe/Finstock for that matter), then it can't stop there.
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2011, 16:03:11 »

It just shows how times have changed.  Before Earley and Winnersh stations on the Reading to Waterloo line had their platforms lengthened eight coach slam door stock called there and the papers were not filled with stories of people falling out of trains.
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2011, 22:22:33 »

...as is the normal West unit practice.

Though sadly the same can't be said for LTV (London [and] Thames Valley) services that have a Guard.  Although rare, that means that if a 3-car Turbo finds its way on an Up Cotswold Line service booked to call at Shipton (or Combe/Finstock for that matter), then it can't stop there.

Thats because turbos dont have the local door option.  Its either all doors open or none.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2011, 23:04:51 »

Though sadly the same can't be said for LTV (London [and] Thames Valley) services that have a Guard.  Although rare, that means that if a 3-car Turbo finds its way on an Up Cotswold Line service booked to call at Shipton (or Combe/Finstock for that matter), then it can't stop there.
Thats because turbos dont have the local door option.  Its either all doors open or none.

Each carriage has an external butterfly switch which will locally open that individual door.
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2011, 23:25:05 »

Though sadly the same can't be said for LTV (London [and] Thames Valley) services that have a Guard.  Although rare, that means that if a 3-car Turbo finds its way on an Up Cotswold Line service booked to call at Shipton (or Combe/Finstock for that matter), then it can't stop there.
Thats because turbos dont have the local door option.  Its either all doors open or none.

Each carriage has an external butterfly switch which will locally open that individual door.

Then the guards door (rear cab) would need to be on the platform for them to get out and go open the local door with the egress.
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2011, 23:42:01 »

HSTs (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) do have selective door opening. They wiuldn't be allowed on the Cotswold Line otherwise
Then why were the Hereford HSTs allowed to use the line before SDO (Selective Door Opening) was introduced?
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2011, 06:14:58 »

Grandfather rights
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2011, 08:19:01 »

if a 3-car Turbo finds its way on an Up Cotswold Line service booked to call at Shipton (or Combe/Finstock for that matter), then it can't stop there.

Though "can't" and "doesn't" are not quite the same. Wink
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2011, 12:05:09 »

Then the guards door (rear cab) would need to be on the platform for them to get out and go open the local door with the egress.

Yup, quite agree.  A simple stop marker in a suitable location, and a local instruction on the above method of working.  Customer friendly rather than just 'sorry, this train can't stop there' - I'm not advocating it becoming normal operating procedure, but just in exceptional circumstances when a 3-car finds itself on a 2-car Turbo diagram.
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