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Author Topic: First Great Western train cleaners vote to strike in pay dispute  (Read 6167 times)
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« on: May 26, 2011, 10:09:18 »

CLEANERS on First Great Western trains have voted 100 per cent for strike action, and by a similar margin for action short of a strike, in a dispute over pay.
The RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) rail union says that with inflation running at over five per cent, Mitie has offered its cleaners a pay increase of just 1.25 per cent for last year and no more than one per cent from April this year.
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Train-cleaners-vote-strike/article-3598450-detail/article.html
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 10:15:33 »

Similar rises to the vast majority of us then?!!

Get a life, Bob Crow.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2011, 10:54:33 »

Similar rises to the vast majority of us then?!!

Get a life, Bob Crow.

possibly greater than many who just get the min wage increase each october!
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011, 10:56:24 »

Indeed.....
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2011, 14:26:39 »

A labourer is worthy of his hire.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2011, 14:27:47 »

But what makes them more worthy than the majority of other labourers?
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2011, 15:20:31 »

A labourer is worthy of his hire.

And as I've often said - if the job is so bad, go find another one that is better!  Tis what I have to do - hence the reason I'm in ireland as of next wednesday
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2011, 15:25:51 »

My comments above only apply if these guys are on railway-related wages. It may well be, as they are employed by Mitie, that they are on minimum wage - in which case, I can see their point.

Anyone know?
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2011, 18:07:38 »

ISS cleaners were on not much more than minimum wage, so I doubt much has changed since Mitie took over the contract.
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2011, 18:09:50 »

Perhaps this quote from the original story needs adding to this thread:

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The RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) says that Mitie Group has just announced a surge in profits over the past year of 16.5 per cent to ^108 million and an increase in shareholder dividends of 15.4 per cent.

RMT general secretary Bob Crow said: "This is a massive kick in the teeth for staff already fighting to exist on low rates of pay.

"Mitie brands itself as a market leader in the "outsourcing" game and yet they have no interest whatsoever in rewarding the hard work of their staff with a fair and decent pay rise.

I'm not Bob's #1 fan by any stretch, but I can't disagree with him here.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2011, 18:14:49 »

Certainly, it ought to be nearer inflation.

I wonder how much Mitie might have to pay FGW (First Great Western) if they don't fulfill the contract?
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2011, 19:25:18 »

Similar rises to the vast majority of us then?!!

Get a life, Bob Crow.

possibly greater than many who just get the min wage increase each october!
Bugger all plus 2.5% is still bugger all though.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2011, 23:02:20 »

they want to try being out of work for 2 months plus!
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2011, 11:00:20 »

Well I know times are tought but I hope that they get a reasonable pay settlement.  If the money isn;t there to pay them (or most likely, Mittie are wisely holding some money back due to economic uncertainty), then Mittie could consider offering some alternative arrangement like a profit related bonus scheme or defered share options or tying increases into productivity gains.  I speak as someone who has been involved in setting the pay of our staff for the last two years.  It is true that we haven't been as generous as we had previosuly because of the economy (even when the firm is doing well the uncertainty means that a prudent manager wants to increase his "headroom"), but we have resisted taking the easy way out simply giving low increases.  If you keep your staff informed, get them involved and show a bit of imagination you can end up keeping them motivated, paying them decently and increasing your bottom line.  I firmly believe that is possible with any job however "lowly".  It isn't easy but that is what managers are paid to do.

I don't like the argument that just because others are on an even  worse deal or out of work the cleaners should settle for what is I am sure a pretty rubbish wage.   Remember, your wages are only low because other people's wages are low too.

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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2011, 11:26:27 »

Totally agree with Tim here.
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