McNulty Report on the UK rail network published

[whole diary]

[ChrisB]

To view Sir Roy McNulty's Value for Money Study in full, visit:

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.10401

[The SprinterMeister]

....is now available on line for perusal at your lesiure.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/strategyfinance/valueformoney/realising-the-potential-of-gb-rail/

[Zoe]

This has already been posted at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=8936.msg91113

[Chris from Nailsea]

Thanks, everyone!  In the interests of simplicity, I've merged those topics here.  CfN. 

[ChrisB]

Don't seen to be able to open the full report with Adobe Reader X - anyone knowhow many pages?

The summary report is 77 pages....

[super tm]

320 pages.

Found this section on page 208

On-train staff

Driver Only Operation (DOO^▸ (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard))) is a safe method of operation and improves performance, with fewer human interactions involved in the door opening, door closing and dispatch procedure. The financial imperatives facing the industry, the need to change radically the cost structure of the industry, and the availability of new communications technology has led the Study to recommend that the default position for all services on the GB^▸ (Great Britain) rail network should be DOO with a second member of train crew only being provided where there is a commercial, technical or other imperative. The Study recommends early implementation of DOO where practicable. Further implementation can take place when stations or rolling stock have been provided with the necessary equipment.

[ChrisB]

Yes, that wasa leaked & mentioned in the press yesterday.

Cue Bob Crow then....

[bobm]

As a passenger I am uncomfortable with DOO^▸ (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)).

While the station despatch might be possible with assistance from platform staff. The on board journey has to suffer. A train manager doesn't just work the doors and check tickets. He/she is an accessible point of contact between stations.

[ChrisB]

I suspect this relates to those trains with automatic doors.

[super tm]

turbo

[ChrisB]

On FGW^▸ (First Great Western), yes....but auto doors on SWT^▸ (South West Trains) means DOO^▸ (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) to Exeter.

[bobm]

What about XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise))?

[Zoe]

What about XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise))?

The driver closes the doors on Voyagers in any case so CD^▸ (Capital Delivery) and RA indicators could be provided at stations for this.

Also once the IEP^▸ (Intercity Express Program / Project.) is introduced, will there still be guards?  If the HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train) are to remain in service beyond 2020 then they will need to have disabled access and so if automatic doors are installed would you still need a guard?  You would need to have a member of staff on board I would think as there is no direct access to the passengers from the power car but would this member of staff have to be a guard?

[super tm]

What about XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise))?

The driver closes the doors on Voyagers in any case so CD^▸ (Capital Delivery) and RA indicators could be provided at stations for this.

Also once IEP^▸ (Intercity Express Program / Project.) is introduced, will there still be guards?  If the HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train) are to remain in service beyond 2020 then they will need to have disabled access and so if automatic doors are installed would you still need a guard?  You would need to have a member of staff on board I would think as there is no direct access to the passengers from the power car but would this member of staff have to be a guard?

Well the javelins dont have guards so could be possible.

[Zoe]

Well the javelins dont have guards so could be possible.

But they are EMUs^▸ (Electric Multiple Unit) and so the driver has direct access to the passengers or is this not the case with the 395s?