Stock cascade of class 150s

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[LiskeardRich]

Surely another reason why an Unfounded Rumours and Gossip section would be a valuable addition.  That way, possible happenings could be flagged up, but moved to appropriate forum slots when conclusively acknowledged to be fact.

Thats a good idea,

Phile, i am finding your postings informative and interesting, am reading but have no furtheer comments to add, take note of the number of "views" of the thread rather than the number of replies

[grahame]

Surely another reason why an Unfounded Rumours and Gossip section would be a valuable addition.  That way, possible happenings could be flagged up, but moved to appropriate forum slots when conclusively acknowledged to be fact.

Maxwell P .... that *will* be happening very soon.   It's been discussed between the moderators and the ball is in my court ... in which (however) there are lots of other balls bouncing around, some of them which need time-dependent attention.

[phile]

Now set up, I notice.   Hope anything dubious will posted on that boards.

[northwesterntrains]

I would prefer it to be definite information rather than a quote on WNXX^▸ (Stored Unserviceable, Mainline Locos HQ All Classes) Forum but it appears that 150202 and 150214 are being prepared at Tyseley for transfer to FGW^▸ (First Great Western).   

Seems a bit strange that FGW are getting 2 x LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) 150/2s and Northern are getting 6 x LM 150/2s with both Northern and FGW receiving LM 150/1s.

If FGW got all 150/1s I would have thought it would make diagramming easier as the 150/1s would all have higher density seating whereas the 150/2s would all have low density seating but giving FGW 2 x LM 150/2s make two trains an exception to the rule.

[paul7575]

Seems a bit strange that FGW^▸ (First Great Western) are getting 2 x LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) 150/2s and Northern are getting 6 x LM 150/2s with both Northern and FGW receiving LM 150/1s.

If FGW got all 150/1s I would have thought it would make diagramming easier as the 150/1s would all have higher density seating whereas the 150/2s would all have low density seating but giving FGW 2 x LM 150/2s make two trains an exception to the rule.

When it came to this additional pair of '150s' perhaps FGW had a preference for the /2s, because it gives them through gangways for multiple working.  It isn't unusual to see them operating their existing 150/2s through Southampton paired with 158s.

Paul

[Maxwell P]

I have it on reasonably good authority that the 2+3 seatings on the 1xx series is for the chop and that a more comprehensive internal refurb and CCTV^▸ (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) install is planned.  From a guard's point of view, the sets are great to work non multi'd, as the cab is much more comfortable.  Now that there are intermediate door control panels on most sets, that little hassle is also taken care of.

[northwesterntrains]

I have it on reasonably good authority that the 2+3 seatings on the 1xx series is for the chop and that a more comprehensive internal refurb and CCTV^▸ (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) install is planned.  From a guard's point of view, the sets are great to work non multi'd, as the cab is much more comfortable.  Now that there are intermediate door control panels on most sets, that little hassle is also taken care of.

FGW^▸ (First Great Western) will have around 20 150s with 3+2 seating.  If there are proposing to do one or two at a time to maximise the number of units in service and to do them to something like Wessex Trains standards won't that mean the refurbishment will be completed just as the FGW franchise is finishing?

[Maxwell P]

I have it on reasonably good authority that the 2+3 seatings on the 1xx series is for the chop and that a more comprehensive internal refurb and CCTV^▸ (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) install is planned.  From a guard's point of view, the sets are great to work non multi'd, as the cab is much more comfortable.  Now that there are intermediate door control panels on most sets, that little hassle is also taken care of.

FGW^▸ (First Great Western) will have around 20 150s with 3+2 seating.  If there are proposing to do one or two at a time to maximise the number of units in service and to do them to something like Wessex Trains standards won't that mean the refurbishment will be completed just as the FGW franchise is finishing?

As would the mooted 180 refurb, should the units come this way.  All we can do is speculate :-) Perhaps the major part of this thread is a candidate for the new 'Rumour Mill section.   


Possibly someone on the fleet side knows more?

[ChrisB]

The 180s if they come this way, would enter service in May12, after driver trainjng & a refresh. 4 out of 5 a day, with one spare.

Not sure where the idea of any further refurb wprk came from?

[IndustryInsider]

4 out of 5 a day, with one spare.

As I've said before, that's pushing it reliability wise.

[ChrisB]

Tell that to FGW^▸ (First Great Western)!

[anthony215]

Didnt get the number but i passed 1 of the centro liveried class 150's at Cardiff central while is was on the 17:40 departure to Milford Haven which was  formed of a 3 carriage class 175 but was still overcrowded.

[Chris from Nailsea]

All we can do is speculate :-) Perhaps the major part of this thread is a candidate for the new 'Rumour Mill section.   

Actually, I agree, Maxwell P - but I'm not inclined to weed through the whole of a 16 page topic, trying to pick out those individual posts which have no apparent foundation in fact!

Please, for the future: if you're just speculating, or repeating rumour - use the new Rumour Mill board?

CfN 

[JayMac]

Not sure where the idea of any further refurb work came from?

FGW^▸ (First Great Western) did issue a tender some months back for a Class 180 refresh.

http://www.publictenders.net/tender/100424

[northwesterntrains]

Not sure where the idea of any further refurb work came from?

FGW^▸ (First Great Western) did issue a tender some months back for a Class 180 refresh.

http://www.publictenders.net/tender/100424

A repaint, replacement seat covers and new carpets is what you'd expect for 10 year old stock that's never had a refresh.  ATW^▸ (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company))) are doing/have done the same with their 175s.